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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 19:01:58 GMT -5
Oh Tosh, you are just another mid to late 50s guy (or older...when do they retire in Scotland...we all get there), with a sense of mischief and obvious boredom. But, the dude abides. Bring that back, that was clever. You know what I'm talking about.
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gavinsnana
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 25, 2011 19:09:08 GMT -5
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. (Matthew 6:33)
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 25, 2011 19:10:52 GMT -5
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Post by Forever Sunshine on Oct 25, 2011 19:11:22 GMT -5
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. (Matthew 6:33) All what things?
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 25, 2011 19:25:16 GMT -5
Hello, welts and shirina! Hope your day went well and your night will also. ------------------------ Hi Sweetie! My day was fine, I finally had a whole day off. Did the grocery shopping and made roasted chicken with sweet potaoes for supper.....that's why I didn't acknowledge your post sooner, sorry. Hope everything is OK on your end.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 25, 2011 19:32:11 GMT -5
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. (Matthew 6:33) All what things? Not just prosperity, but happiness, health, wisdom.... its not all just about money and things.. IMO
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Post by Forever Sunshine on Oct 25, 2011 19:35:27 GMT -5
IMO, it's not about anything material. IMO, the spiritual journey or walk with God, never includes material things. It's more of peace and contentment, self awareness and out of self awareness. It's a "paying it forward" mentality.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 25, 2011 19:36:26 GMT -5
Happiness and health and widsom, not material. I believe you are blessed by God on some many other levels, not just material things
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 25, 2011 19:37:16 GMT -5
And there is nothing wrong with being blessed with material things, many people are. they work hard for it, and deserve it.
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 25, 2011 19:38:15 GMT -5
My God, this man is satan, he caused the global economic crisis, he created a depression by telling nit wits God would pay their mortgage !! Nurse.....Nurse !! Get me my meds, my eye is twitching in morse code. S.O.S. ;D Only kidding ladies, I'll send a male nurse right away! Just keep breathing and don't you dare freaking die on my shift!
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Post by Forever Sunshine on Oct 25, 2011 19:38:37 GMT -5
Not all people who work "hard" for it earn it or deserve it.
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Post by steff on Oct 25, 2011 19:38:57 GMT -5
The prosperity gospel, which is what Osteen "preaches", is about money. Money for yourself as "blessings from God".... it's about greed
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 25, 2011 19:42:19 GMT -5
He lives in a $10.5 million dollar home, his church cost 100 million dollars to build and there is not one picture or statue of Jesus in it. His church and book turnover exceeds 100 million dollars per year.
He gets his money from God ? He fleeces his money from poor people !!
This man is immoral to the core.
----------------------- Agreed. He takes money from pensioners so he can live in a 10.5 million dollar house? That's obscene.
19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother. 20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth. 21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Looks like Joel isn't going to heaven.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 25, 2011 19:52:47 GMT -5
Not all people who work "hard" for it earn it or deserve it. Yep, you are right. there are those too.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 25, 2011 19:53:45 GMT -5
Then I suppose the Government isn't going to Heaven either eh?
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 25, 2011 19:54:04 GMT -5
K for You, Nanna
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 25, 2011 19:56:34 GMT -5
K for You, Nanna Yum,. I love Kandy, I mean Karma! LOL Going to search out some fun, light hearted boards.. Enjoy~
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Post by steff on Oct 25, 2011 19:57:00 GMT -5
Then I suppose the Government isn't going to Heaven either eh? Our government isn't here to cater to any one single religion or religious group. So any religion's version of "heaven" shouldn't matter.....
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 25, 2011 20:05:36 GMT -5
And there is nothing wrong with being blessed with material things, many people are. they work hard for it, and deserve it. Sorry, Nanna, but getting up on TV and asking for donations is NOT 'working hard', nor is it 'deserving it.' Jesus would not be happy, IMO.
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 25, 2011 20:06:36 GMT -5
My God, this man is satan, he caused the global economic crisis, he created a depression by telling nit wits God would pay their mortgage !! Nurse.....Nurse !! Get me my meds, my eye is twitching in morse code. S.O.S. ;D Only kidding ladies, I'll send a male nurse right away! Just keep breathing and don't you dare freaking die on my shift! LMAO! Hi'ya hon!
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 25, 2011 20:07:09 GMT -5
K for You, Nanna Yum,. I love Kandy, I mean Karma! LOL Going to search out some fun, light hearted boards.. Enjoy~ Follow me. ;D
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 25, 2011 20:09:18 GMT -5
Hello, welts and shirina! Hope your day went well and your night will also. ------------------------ Hi Sweetie! My day was fine, I finally had a whole day off. Did the grocery shopping and made roasted chicken with sweet potaoes for supper.....that's why I didn't acknowledge your post sooner, sorry. Hope everything is OK on your end. I'm glad your day was good. Your food sounds sooooooooooo good! Yummy!
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 25, 2011 20:11:05 GMT -5
Then I suppose the Government isn't going to Heaven either eh? Well, since you asked........................
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Post by steff on Oct 25, 2011 20:13:32 GMT -5
Government & religion don't even belong in the same sentence. The day we allow ANY religion to run our Govt, we'll be sunk.
Not everyone believes as everyone else does....one religion doesn't take priority over another....and our govt should NEVER allow any religious views to determine the fate of our country. Separation of Church & State.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 25, 2011 20:15:11 GMT -5
And there is nothing wrong with being blessed with material things, many people are. they work hard for it, and deserve it. Sorry, Nanna, but getting up on TV and asking for donations is NOT 'working hard', nor is it 'deserving it.' Jesus would not be happy, IMO. I wasn't referring to anyone standing up on TV asking for donations. I was speaking about those who are blessed and have great life.. Most work hard and deserve a great life, don't they? Why is it such a problem for those who believe in God and have nice things? Bad people have nice things too.. Whats the deal?
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 25, 2011 20:17:13 GMT -5
Sorry, Nanna, but getting up on TV and asking for donations is NOT 'working hard', nor is it 'deserving it.' Jesus would not be happy, IMO. I wasn't referring to anyone standing up on TV asking for donations. I was speaking about those who are blessed and have great life.. Most work hard and deserve a great life, don't they? Why is it such a problem for those who believe in God and have nice things? Bad people have nice things too.. Whats the deal?
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 25, 2011 20:18:42 GMT -5
Hiya, Cranberry. Hope all's well your way, hon. I just couldn't resist a little poke at dear Tosh. Were he in my hospital, I know just the nurse I'd assign to him!
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 25, 2011 20:23:00 GMT -5
LOL! mmmhmm! You are too funny...BTW, I'm doing great.
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 25, 2011 20:26:41 GMT -5
Sorry, Nanna, but getting up on TV and asking for donations is NOT 'working hard', nor is it 'deserving it.' Jesus would not be happy, IMO. I wasn't referring to anyone standing up on TV asking for donations. I was speaking about those who are blessed and have great life.. Most work hard and deserve a great life, don't they? Why is it such a problem for those who believe in God and have nice things? Bad people have nice things too.. Whats the deal? There's nothing wrong with believing in God and having nice things, IMO. It's the way one goes about getting those 'nice' things that I have a problem with. No one should have a 10 million dollar house and claim to be a messenger of God, Especially if he/she is getting rich by spreading the word of God. It goes against all that's decent. After all, aren't Christians suppose to be concerned about stumbling others? I seem to recall several scriptures concerning this very subject.
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 25, 2011 20:49:07 GMT -5
So people who believe in God cannot have money? I agree its one thing to have it and not do any good with it.. but as for The Osteens, that just isn't the case... I do know them and they do a whole lot of good for many many people as well as many other countries. There are many rich folks who don't give a rip about anyone but themselves, they just do not fit it this mold. Judging someone for having a nice home just isn't something I would do, especially when I know how much they help others. Have a nice night everyone
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