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Post by femmefatale on Oct 25, 2011 14:49:36 GMT -5
This goes for people of every race, religion or "lifestyle choice". I agree with ya 100%!
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 25, 2011 14:52:22 GMT -5
Mom came into town... So taking her to get a pedi. HAGD
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 14:52:56 GMT -5
your opinions and beliefs are just that, but to call a Man of God disgusting is very sad. --------------------- A Man of God? We're prosecuting plenty of those men up here. Priests who diddle little boys are supposedly "Men of God", and yes, they're disgusting. I agree, but don't paint all Men of God/Ministers/Preachers with that broad brush.. One, two or a hundred bad apples does not make the entire crop bad. While that may be true, when you couple power with money, lots and lots of money, BOATLOADS of money you are asking for trouble. In my opinion a "man of god" should not be so wealthy. With money comes power and often greed and corruption. There are several discraced men of god I could easily reference here but I won't bother. My point is money / power/ greed and corruption often go hand in hand.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 25, 2011 14:54:40 GMT -5
I agree, but don't paint all Men of God/Ministers/Preachers with that broad brush.. One, two or a hundred bad apples does not make the entire crop bad. While that may be true, when you couple power with money, lots and lots of money, BOATLOADS of money you are asking for trouble. In my opinion a "man of god" should not be so wealthy. With money comes power and often greed and corruption. There are several discraced men of god I could easily reference here but I won't bother. My point is money / power/ greed and corruption often go hand in hand. But why stereo type the Preachers/Ministers? Why are they the ones we are only referring to here? Just asking.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 25, 2011 15:02:12 GMT -5
Mom came into town... So taking her to get a pedi. HAGD Have a good one Nanna.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 25, 2011 16:23:07 GMT -5
I agree, but don't paint all Men of God/Ministers/Preachers with that broad brush.. One, two or a hundred bad apples does not make the entire crop bad. Did I say they were ALL bad? No, I did not. I said that the title "Man of God" can be misleading, and not all "Men of God" are necessarily good people.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 25, 2011 16:25:08 GMT -5
But why stereo type the Preachers/Ministers? Why are they the ones we are only referring to here? Just asking -------------------- Because this is the God thread. We're not going to discuss plumbers or pilots or poultry farmers.
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Post by Shirina on Oct 25, 2011 16:26:10 GMT -5
It doesn't work that way. We all know that one dollar exists and we have all seen one dollar. A billion dollars is simply a billion one dollar bills. There's nothing extraordinary, paranormal, or mystical about a billion dollars - other than the fact that I don't have it. I do, as well, but more specifically, I reject the modern Christian's notion of sin. Modern Christianity only seems to really interest itself in sins related to sex, reproduction, and modesty as if morality hinges only upon behaving oneself in the bedroom. Unless it's rape, in which case nary a word is said. Rape didn't even make the 10 Commandments.
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Post by warbringer on Oct 25, 2011 16:34:55 GMT -5
I was texting while driving today? Does that count?
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 25, 2011 16:36:17 GMT -5
I was texting while driving today? Does that count? Shame on you.
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Post by jemima on Oct 25, 2011 16:36:39 GMT -5
I was texting while driving today? Does that count? Only is it was sexting then it may be.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 25, 2011 16:37:48 GMT -5
I was texting while driving today? Does that count? Only is it was sexting then it may be.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 16:38:31 GMT -5
I was texting while driving today? Does that count? Only is it was sexting then it may be. What about receiving a sext, is that a sin?
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 25, 2011 16:39:21 GMT -5
Only is it was sexting then it may be. What about receiving a sext, is that a sin? No.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 16:41:25 GMT -5
What about receiving a sext, is that a sin? No. whew...
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 25, 2011 17:23:13 GMT -5
Did I say they were ALL bad? No, I did not. I said that the title "Man of God" can be misleading, and not all "Men of God" are necessarily good people. And not all are bad. I like to take them one at a time before judging them in a group, IMO
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 25, 2011 17:23:58 GMT -5
No. whew... LMAO!
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Post by gavinsnana on Oct 25, 2011 17:26:43 GMT -5
It doesn't work that way. We all know that one dollar exists and we have all seen one dollar. A billion dollars is simply a billion one dollar bills. There's nothing extraordinary, paranormal, or mystical about a billion dollars - other than the fact that I don't have it. I do, as well, but more specifically, I reject the modern Christian's notion of sin. Modern Christianity only seems to really interest itself in sins related to sex, reproduction, and modesty as if morality hinges only upon behaving oneself in the bedroom. Unless it's rape, in which case nary a word is said. Rape didn't even make the 10 Commandments. I agree, I stick with the 10 Commandments. I do not like Rules set by a Church,. (and not saying this to offend anyone) But rules like, You cannot wear makeup, cut your hair, wear pants, jewelry.. show any skin. those are not Rules of God, but of Man. I have no problem with those who chose this, but dom't put it on me and tell me I will burn in hell for having short hair.
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 25, 2011 17:38:06 GMT -5
I agree, but don't paint all Men of God/Ministers/Preachers with that broad brush.. One, two or a hundred bad apples does not make the entire crop bad. While that may be true, when you couple power with money, lots and lots of money, BOATLOADS of money you are asking for trouble. In my opinion a "man of god" should not be so wealthy. With money comes power and often greed and corruption. There are several discraced men of god I could easily reference here but I won't bother. My point is money / power/ greed and corruption often go hand in hand. Agreed 100%!
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 25, 2011 17:39:56 GMT -5
But why stereo type the Preachers/Ministers? Why are they the ones we are only referring to here? Just asking -------------------- Because this is the God thread. We're not going to discuss plumbers or pilots or poultry farmers. LOL!
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Post by Tosh on Oct 25, 2011 17:40:25 GMT -5
Evening FF and Texas, I am afraid your religious friend is not an ordained minister, he is not a confirmed man of God, he is a showman with no religious or theological training. I will speak plainly, This man makes me physically sick and he preaches a disgustingly dishonest message to poor and desperate people. piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/26/joel-osteen-apologizing-for-wealth-is-almost-an-insult-to-our-god/ He lives in a $10.5 million dollar home, his church cost 100 million dollars to build and there is not one picture or statue of Jesus in it. His church and book turnover exceeds 100 million dollars per year. He gets his money from God ? He fleeces his money from poor people !! This man is immoral to the core.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 17:46:02 GMT -5
Gosh Tosh...don't hold back.
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 25, 2011 17:46:47 GMT -5
Evening FF and Texas, I am afraid your religious friend is not an ordained minister, he is not a confirmed man of God, he is a showman with no religious or theological training. I will speak plainly, This man makes me physically sick and he preaches a disgustingly dishonest message to poor and desperate people. piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/26/joel-osteen-apologizing-for-wealth-is-almost-an-insult-to-our-god/ He lives in a $10.5 million dollar home, his church cost 100 million dollars to build and there is not one picture or statue of Jesus in it. His church and book turnover exceeds 100 million dollars per year. He gets his money from God ? He fleeces his money from poor people !! This man is immoral to the core. Wow! Just Wow!
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Post by Tosh on Oct 25, 2011 17:47:16 GMT -5
A man of God is not a title, it is a way of life, this clown emotionally blackmails poor people into making him rich, and then thanks God for is wealth, he should do, he is selling God.
Your country should stop these people, it is if not illegal it is unethical.
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Post by Shirina on Oct 25, 2011 17:48:48 GMT -5
LOL! I could understand someone perceiving winning the lottery as a blessing from God, but when you set out to deliberately become wealthy, that's Olsteen's own doing.
I don't begrudge a man wanting to live comfortably, but no one should be living in opulence through donations. No doubt that the majority of people sending this guy money could better use it themselves, and anyone with true morality would no longer accept donations when you already have a $10.5 million house. I think Olsteen will find that the eye of the needle is a lot smaller than he obviously thinks it is.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 25, 2011 17:49:11 GMT -5
I agree, I stick with the 10 Commandments. ----------------------- ALL of them? Never did a lick of work on a Sunday? Never had sex with anyone you weren't married to?
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 25, 2011 17:49:33 GMT -5
A man of God is not a title, it is a way of life, this clown emotionally blackmails poor people into making him rich, and then thanks God for is wealth, he should do, he is selling God. Your country should stop these people, it is if not illegal it is unethical. Agreed, and we have faaaaaaaaaaarrrrr too many around!
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Post by cranberry49 on Oct 25, 2011 17:52:16 GMT -5
LOL! I could understand someone perceiving winning the lottery as a blessing from God, but when you set out to deliberately become wealthy, that's Olsteen's own doing. I don't begrudge a man wanting to live comfortably, but no one should be living in opulence through donations. No doubt that the majority of people sending this guy money could better use it themselves, and anyone with true morality would no longer accept donations when you already have a $10.5 million house. I think Olsteen will find that the eye of the needle is a lot smaller than he obviously thinks it is. Agreed here too! You people are on a roll! I don't usually agree with Atheists', but I do agree with remarks like this!
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Post by steff on Oct 25, 2011 17:53:40 GMT -5
Doesn't the "prosperity gospel" go against most of what religion is supposed to be about? Are you really supposed to be praying for material worldly goods for yourself?
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Post by Shirina on Oct 25, 2011 17:55:49 GMT -5
The irony is that you just recently posted this in your "God Loving People" thread:
Matthew 16: 26
No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.
Perhaps you should read your scriptures a bit more thoroughly before defending a "Man of God" who needs a $10.5 million house.
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