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Post by femmefatale on Oct 21, 2011 10:06:32 GMT -5
Afternoon FF, Did you watch the clip, if not, why not ? You never thanked me for the karma you blackmailed out of me. Clip?? And thank You for the Karma, Can I have another? ;D
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 21, 2011 10:10:31 GMT -5
I am watching the clip right now but will have to watch various parts throughout the day. It's pretty lengthy.
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Post by Tosh on Oct 21, 2011 10:30:32 GMT -5
Our consciousness or soul is a story of the self, when we examine our soul the image is the summation of this story and we create ourselves from our own observations. Similarly the " me " I see in the mirror is my own reflection of " me ", and this is exactly how our mind full of mirror neurons operates when it comes to observing and constructing the self.
What is slightly disconcerting is that at any given point of time the story can be radically changed, any sudden trauma can change our psychological and physical reflections.
A simple stroke can change a persons soul and appearance, a once loving human can be transformed into a sociopath who does not remember anything about the old self. There is a new story of " me " and it replaces the old story, this happens in smaller sketches through out our lives, we change with the story.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 21, 2011 11:03:26 GMT -5
So what does your brain being changed have to do with belief in God, or if he exists?
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Post by Tosh on Oct 21, 2011 11:04:16 GMT -5
It is only 20 minutes long my dear, you need to work on your attention span.
No more karmas, it is not cool.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 21, 2011 11:05:29 GMT -5
It is only 20 minutes long my dear, you need to work on your attention span. No more karmas, it is not cool.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 21, 2011 11:06:21 GMT -5
Ok Tosh, you win. But on one condition. You go over to the God thread and read my Bible scripts and listen to the 2 songs I posted.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 21, 2011 11:07:04 GMT -5
I'm going to watch your clip only out of curiosity. But my attention span is short. I hope it keeps my attention.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 11:08:17 GMT -5
I'm going to watch your clip only out of curiosity. But my attention span is short. I hope it keeps my attention. Is it animated? That would help. ;D
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Post by Tosh on Oct 21, 2011 11:22:19 GMT -5
Easy girl, did you watch the clip ?
FF, are you blond ?
The clip has many different aspects to it, belief in god was not one of them, I may need to go and lie down in a very dark room, my eye is twitching again.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 21, 2011 11:24:07 GMT -5
Easy girl, did you watch the clip ? FF, are you blond ? The clip has many different aspects to it, belief in god was not one of them, I may need to go and lie down in a very dark room, my eye is twitching again. Yes I am, and why do you ask?
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Post by jarhead1976 on Oct 21, 2011 11:40:15 GMT -5
Easy girl, did you watch the clip ? FF, are you blond ? The clip has many different aspects to it, belief in god was not one of them, I may need to go and lie down in a very dark room, my eye is twitching again. Tosh, She does mention her mother was "an angel" would that be spiritual or not? By Gods grace she survived
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 21, 2011 11:47:48 GMT -5
Hi jar..How goes it?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 11:47:59 GMT -5
Easy girl, did you watch the clip ? FF, are you blond ? The clip has many different aspects to it, belief in god was not one of them, I may need to go and lie down in a very dark room, my eye is twitching again. I've not tried this but apparently Nyquil helps. * Please..no blonde jokes.
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Post by jarhead1976 on Oct 21, 2011 11:48:53 GMT -5
Once again you twist my words to suit your beliefs , no where did I state that need was a learned behavior. I said nurturing and co-operation where . Since you can not produce empirical evidence to your theories I will consider them nothing less than snake oil. Not all mothers are great care givers and Susan Smith comes to mind. Your genetic theory is as flawed as your disbelieve in Christ.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 21, 2011 11:50:14 GMT -5
I concur, JA!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 11:52:42 GMT -5
Once again you twist my words to suit your beliefs , no where did I state that need was a learned behavior. I said nuturing and co-operation where . If nurturing is a learned behaviour the human race would not exist. Human babies are the most needy and dependant creatures on earth. Nurturing is necessary for the advancement of the human species. This is not learned behavior.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 11:54:12 GMT -5
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Post by jarhead1976 on Oct 21, 2011 11:57:02 GMT -5
Good Femme thanks for asking. respects
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 21, 2011 12:00:49 GMT -5
He gon' make me get my whip out.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 21, 2011 12:01:24 GMT -5
Good Femme thanks for asking. respects Respects? Thanks. Not many men do that. j.k ;D
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Post by jarhead1976 on Oct 21, 2011 12:11:35 GMT -5
Once again you twist my words to suit your beliefs , no where did I state that need was a learned behavior. I said nurturing and co-operation where . If nurturing is a learned behavior the human race would not exist. Human babies are the most needy and depend ant creatures on earth. Nurturing is necessary for the advancement of the human species. This is not learned behavior. Exactly JA, Baby's are dependent on their care givers for nurturing , hence the learned behavior. If they are tossed aside, like some are , they die. If they live they have been taught to care for their own children in a loving and caring ENVIRONMENT. Nothing anywhere proves a genetic tendency for nurturing .
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Post by Shirina on Oct 21, 2011 12:11:56 GMT -5
Mothers who are sound of mind are all good care givers ... or at least they TRY to be. Some are more successful than others. Susan Smith was not sound of mind. When all the synapses are firing like they should be, then nurturing is innate. Humans are not perfect and there is a wide variation between us in terms of mental stability, stress levels, and other internal and external factors that can push us beyond instinctual behavior. Thus thinking that the genetic theory is flawed is as flawed as your belief in Christ.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 12:14:01 GMT -5
If nurturing is a learned behavior the human race would not exist. Human babies are the most needy and depend ant creatures on earth. Nurturing is necessary for the advancement of the human species. This is not learned behavior. Exactly JA, Baby's are dependent on their care givers for nurturing , hence the learned behavior. If they are tossed aside like some are. They die. If they live they have been taught to care for their own children in a loving and caring ENVIRONMENT. Nothing anywhere proves a genetic tendency for nurturing . What came first the chicken or the egg? Nobody had to teach me to love my babies.
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 21, 2011 12:14:41 GMT -5
If nurturing is a learned behavior the human race would not exist. Human babies are the most needy and depend ant creatures on earth. Nurturing is necessary for the advancement of the human species. This is not learned behavior. Exactly JA, Baby's are dependent on their care givers for nurturing , hence the learned behavior. If they are tossed aside like some are. They die. If they live they have been taught to care for their own children in a loving and caring ENVIRONMENT. Nothing anywhere proves a genetic tendency for nurturing . I hate to say this but it's true. I am much more loving than my Mother was. I know they say drug users and serial killers come from Broken Homes and I guess I can see that. Life trials and pain can make You or break You. It's a decision we have. Good or evil? Good comes from God and He lives inside of You if you truly believe, if not, well then...You choose the other path. JMO~
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 12:22:52 GMT -5
Exactly JA, Baby's are dependent on their care givers for nurturing , hence the learned behavior. If they are tossed aside like some are. They die. If they live they have been taught to care for their own children in a loving and caring ENVIRONMENT. Nothing anywhere proves a genetic tendency for nurturing . I hate to say this but it's true. I am much more loving than my Mother was. I know they say drug users and serial killers come from Broken Homes and I guess I can see that. Life trials and pain can make You or break You. It's a decision we have. Good or evil? Good comes from God and He lives inside of You if you truly believe, if not, well then...You choose the other path. JMO~ If Good comes from god then so does evil as he created everything according to your words.
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Post by jarhead1976 on Oct 21, 2011 12:23:53 GMT -5
Mothers who are sound of mind are all good care givers ... or at least they TRY to be. Some are more successful than others. Susan Smith was not sound of mind. When all the synapses are firing like they should be, then nurturing is innate. Humans are not perfect and there is a wide variation between us in terms of mental stability, stress levels, and other internal and external factors that can push us beyond instinctual behavior. Thus thinking that the genetic theory is flawed is as flawed as your belief in Christ. "External factors" your words are in direct conflict with there intent.
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Post by Shirina on Oct 21, 2011 12:24:53 GMT -5
Are you suggesting that if you don't believe in God ... and more specifically ... do not adhere to your religion, then you are fundamentally evil?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2011 12:27:03 GMT -5
Are you suggesting that if you don't believe in God ... and more specifically ... do not adhere to your religion, then you are fundamentally evil? I believe that is what she is saying. The other path...hmmmmm...
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Post by femmefatale on Oct 21, 2011 12:28:42 GMT -5
I hate to say this but it's true. I am much more loving than my Mother was. I know they say drug users and serial killers come from Broken Homes and I guess I can see that. Life trials and pain can make You or break You. It's a decision we have. Good or evil? Good comes from God and He lives inside of You if you truly believe, if not, well then...You choose the other path. JMO~ If Good comes from god then so does evil as he created everything according to your words. Evil is a choice. That is why Jesus died on the cross. He shed His Blood for the cost of our Sins. We have Salvation through Jesus Christ, by repenting, and Confessing our sins to the Lord. He is merciful and He forgives. Sin came from Adam and Eve in the Beginning. God saw this and was not happy and therefore he sent his only begotten Son out into the World to Preach righteousness. He was ridiculed, spit on, beaten and then God sacrificed Him so that Someday we could be forgiven and enter the Gates of Heaven. Evil is NOT of God, it is of the Devil and it is a conscious decision we all have to make. I am not perfect, nor is anyone. That is what Prayer, confession, repentence and the Bible is for. That is all I will say any further on this matter. This is how I feel. I don't really have a problem with anyone else's decision on what or whom they believe in. But this is what I believe.
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