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anne81
Message #14869 - 12/18/10 09:07 PM

yogiii - I sent it again.  It might be in your spam folder!

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ElfQ1015
Message #14870 - 12/18/10 09:38 PM



Congrats jenna, sorry the labor was so difficult but you got a healthy happy baby out of the deal!

 

Could you take Tylenol with codeine?  I don't know your sleeping pill tolerance.  The Tylenol was just enough to help me drift off to sleep but not enough to prevent me from waking up should I need to or because an ahole birth certificate guy decided to show up in my room at 1 am.

 

I got a huge bottle full of them and prescription strength motrin from the hospital, if you didn't you might want to call your OB and see if she can call in an Rx for you.  I could take two Tylenol with codine every 4 hours and one motrin every 8 hours.

 

I went Christmas shopping today and got a bit carried away for Gwen. I planned on just getting her a play mat but I ended up getting her a copy of The Pokey Puppy, There is a Monster at the End of this Book and a stuffed Paddington Bear which she is currently chewing on.

 

It's HARD to find anything that has "Great Grandparent" on it!  I finally found a picture frame at Hallmark that said "Great Grandchild" on it. I am going to put a picture of my grandparents holding Gwen in it for them as a Christmas present.  Hope they like it.

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oldfostermom
Message #14871 - 12/18/10 09:48 PM



How to adopt or what to think about when thinking about adoption: 

It is often expensive, especially if you are looking outside of this country.  The child MAY have more, expensive, problems either physical or emotional or mental that need attention post adoption. 

It can take years especially if you want to adopt an infant without major problems. 

Your county is one place to start as counties usually have family service departments and offer classes on what to expect. 

You may never get a placement.  I know with all the talk about children in need how could this be true? But lots of children in need of a family are older and may have had some horrible terrible experiences in their past that makes them unable to bond or trust.

If you adopt how will your extended family see and feel about this child.  I have heard some very unloving stories.... grandma dies and the adoptive mother is asked by siblings if her adopted children are really grandchildren, or get different treatment in a will or trust than biological children.   

You may want to consider what an open adoption would look like where you would know at least one bio-parent for the life of your adopted child. Open adoption means the biological parent chooses you and gets to meet and know you as well as having ongoing knowledge of their birth child.

You need to examine what it would mean in your family to have a child of a different race from you.  What a fetal alcohol baby would do to your family.  Or a substance damaged child, or one that spends LOTS of time in the hospital, or needs special education or physical assistance.

Your non-biological child may have a totally different personality/drives/desires than you or your spouse so you need to be even more sensitive to possible career or educational goals and choices.  One adoptive parent I have known well for years says:  Children born to parents who cannot keep them often are the genetic offspring of people who have impulse control issues, ADD, low emotional self-control; and this can be inherited and needs special awareness in parenting.

Adopting from another country is not a sure thing.  It takes a LONG time, your child is usually at least a year old when he/she arrives or you pick him/her up there.  You need to financially qualify and there are age constraints on the parental age. Health issues may not be fully known until your child is in the US. 

Birthing a baby is not easy.  Adopting isn't now either.  It is very different from the story in Ann of Green Gables.

AND, you can love an adopted child as much as a birth child.  And they can be a source of tremendous joy in your life.  And, birth children can also have problems and break your heart.

I have an adored wonderful successful fabulous beautiful bright adopted cousin and I know many wonderful children who have been adopted.    But adoption is NOT an easy answer.

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jenna30-
Message #14872 - 12/18/10 10:17 PM

I got a huge bottle full of them and prescription strength motrin from the hospital, if you didn't you might want to call your OB and see if she can call in an Rx for you.  I could take two Tylenol with codine every 4 hours and one motrin every 8 hours.

I'm pretty sure that's what I have been prescribed.  Doesn't help the searing pain I experience in my hips when getting up from a nap.  I try to take a Motrine (400 mg Ibuprofen) before bed & it doesn't seem to help, either.

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insurancemoneymaven
Message #14873 - 12/18/10 11:11 PM

The Pokey Puppy

AHHH, I loved this book as a kid!! My parents still have my old copy.

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MuttleynFelix
Message #14874 - 12/19/10 02:00 AM



oldfostermom - Thanks for all you do and your wisdom.

Jenna - Sorry to hear of your difficult dilivery.  I hope you have a good recovery.

We finished Christmas shopping today. The mall was busy but DS was great. I really adore wearing him it is so much easier than pushing around a stroller.  Yeah we had a bunch of stuff DH carried, but he was cool with it and I had my hands free to help if needed.  We found exactly what we were looking for and had minimal hassles. So, that was nice. I think I went a little bit farther over my budget this year, but it is hard to tell. We bought stuff for all 6 nieces and nephew, plus birthday presents for 4 of them and most of DS's birthday present as well. So it is hard to break that out vs Christmas presents.  We are going to wrap up some empty boxes for DS. We figure he'll have a lot of fun with the boxes.  So, we only got him 2 toys for Christmas and some books.

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ElfQ1015
Message #14875 - 12/19/10 03:22 AM

Doesn't help the searing pain I experience in my hips when getting up from a nap

I did not have a C-section, but maybe a pillow between the legs?  I used my body pillow after birth because if I pressed my legs together it put too much pressure on my stitches and would throb.

 

There are lots of ladies on here that had them that maybe could give better advice.

 

I was surprised at how fast the lines went this year even at Toys R Us.   Even when there is a really long line most of the stores have a lot of registers open and the line moves quickly with managers guiding customers so you don't get everyone trying to cram into the nearest open lane.

 

Course I haven't been to Wal-mart, they are usually the exception, don't plan on it either.

 

 

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azure sky
Message #14876 - 12/19/10 05:18 AM

Jenna -- I also had an emergency c-section. The pain will get better!!!!!!!!  It seems like the whole world now, but it will subside. Grit your teeth and keep moving, because that is what will help the most, ultimately. When DS was born, I pushed him in his stroller, which helped support me. It may be cold where you are, but that is a possibility. I am glad that I got off the narcotics, but they are an option.

It was hard for me to even see my incision for awhile, due to all my flabby post-pregnancy belly. It really isn't bad now.

Sending healing thoughts your way! If you have questions, please feel free to ask.

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anne81
Message #14877 - 12/19/10 06:14 AM

jenna - is the pain from your incision or from somewhere else?  I didn't have a c-section but I did have quite a bit of pain in my hips and pubic bone after giving birth.  I know that unisom (the tabs, not the gels) were considered safe during pregnancy - I seem to recall I used them after giving birth as well.

oldfostermom - your post brought tears to my eyes.  I'd love to adopt but the issues you speak of have convinced my DH that it's a bad idea.  I hope someday he changes his mind but I know that he has to fully embrace the idea too.

muttley - I miss the days when I could carry DS in a pack.  It was wonderful.  Have a fun Christmas!

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boos_mom
Message #14878 - 12/19/10 08:09 AM



jenna - I know during my hospital stay and after discharge with a rx, I was taking 800mg of motrin.  You can check with your OB about it and see if they can recommend anything else for your pain.  Hope it subsides soon.

muttley - glad your shopping went so well!  Going into the toy department/store is begging for a meltdown with #2, so we usually split up and I do the toy shopping while DH keeps the kids in another area.  That's gone well!  Especially since #1 will suspect something if she saw me buying Santa's gifts for them   . 

anne - with #2, I had a lot of pain in my hip/pubic bone area too PP.  I'd have to sleep with pillows under my hips/back for quite a while.  It took a few months before my ligaments finally tightened back up. 

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jenna30-
Message #14879 - 12/19/10 09:57 AM

Ah, nothing like getting p'd on at 3:30 in the morning.  He was sitting in my lap, 1/2 asleep.  Not sure how it got past the diaper... 

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jenna30-
Message #14880 - 12/19/10 10:06 AM

Thanks for all the well wishes.  Ultimately, we have a healthy son out of the ordeal, and that is what is most important.

The pain is either from the incision, or the muscles that were utilized during the c-section.  Usually, the pain is short lived, and flares up the most when I try to get up from lying/sitting down.

I've been walking quite a bit around the house, but it's too cold for the baby to go outside for more than a minute (like to the Dr's office.)

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azure sky
Message #14881 - 12/19/10 08:06 PM

Jenna -- getting up and down is definitely most painful. It is a combination of muscles and incision. Holding a pillow over the incision firmly while you try to get up and down will help. Ask for help, when possible, from your DH. Try to roll so you are using your arms and shoulders to push you up and down and not relying on your stomach muscles.

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ladyki
Message #14882 - 12/19/10 08:42 PM

Maggie had her one-week checkup yesterday. She is already 2 ounces OVER her birth weight! The doctor said that this is a great sign that she is healthy, and he was very impressed with how well she is doing. She did not appreciate having them examine her, though.

Econ- Good to hear that Maggie's first appoitment went well and that she is gaining weight.

 

Jenna- Glad to know that Baby E and you are doing okay. All that matter is that both of you are healthy. I agree with boosmom- most dr.'s are ok with breastfeeding moms taking motrin. They would give me motrin at he hospital.

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ladyki
Message #14883 - 12/19/10 08:51 PM

I went Christmas shopping today and got a bit carried away for Gwen. I planned on just getting her a play mat but I ended up getting her a copy of The Pokey Puppy, There is a Monster at the End of this Book and a stuffed Paddington Bear which she is currently chewing on.

LOl, I am still not finished with my Christmas shopping, but everytime I go out to shop for someone else, I end up getting stuff for Kiani. She already has a bunch of things that my DH insists we need to wrap, lol. Walmart had a great special on Friday night, I got a Wii for us ( for me and DH) and they gave me a gift card of $75.00 when I purchased it. I ended up getting like five toys for her with that money. I am just making sure that everything I get her are for babies her age or a few months older. I still have things in mine that I want to go get her. DH husband wants us to get her a bouncer.

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MuttleynFelix
Message #14884 - 12/20/10 12:05 AM



boos - This is terrible, but I ordered most of DS's stuff online.  

Ok, back to work.  We all basically napped all afternoon. DS even stayed asleep once we got home from church. So we let him nap in his carseat ... for 3 hrs! I couldn't believe he slept in his carseat that long. Of course this is the last week we are going to be using the infant carrier. His new carseats came on Thursday (Britax Boulevard and Safety First Avenue).  I got a 2 hr nap and DH got over an hour. 

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red_wagon
Message #14885 - 12/20/10 05:19 AM

My ten-month-old niece fell asleep in my arms Friday night. I've definitely been bitten by the bug even worse. At least I can focus on planning and savings goals for the next year or so until we start trying, so I feel like I'm getting closer... Reading all of your stories is great too! I hope you don't mind my lurking and asking questions from time to time!

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stuckinsand
Message #14886 - 12/20/10 06:13 AM

Hello Everyone!  I have lurked here for almost a year.  Lots of times I felt like posting but never got up the nerve to do it!  Why I needed courage to post on an anonymous board, i'm not sure!  But when I saw the posting about this board possibly disappearing I wanted to say how great a group you all are and how much I look forward to reading your updates.  I have a 4 month old DD and she's our first child.  Huge learning curve but all the advice on here really helps.

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boos_mom
Message #14887 - 12/20/10 07:37 AM



muttley - glad you all got some great naps in today.  I bought a few more things online too, that I may change out some of the gifts I already bought.  Ah, the curse of online shopping. 

ladyki - sounds like a great deal on the Wii!  We never bought too many toys for the kids when they were little b/c we always got so much stuff from everyone.  I usually bought a bunch of clothes though.  Now that they're a bit older, I picked up a few more toys for the kids.  We'll see if they don't get bored of them too quickly. 

stuck - welcome!  Hopefully the WIR board will survive the msn cut.  If not, be sure to sign up on the babycenter alternate site.

jenna - Even with a non-c/s delivery, my abdominal muscles were in a lot of pain the first couple of weeks, whenever I bent over or getting up too.  The higher dosage of motrin really did help me out.  I didn't take motrin with #1 b/c I don't really take a lot of painkillers.  But with #2, I decided I'd take it, and it made a big difference.  Maybe you can call your OB and they can just call a scrip in for you. 

red - how sweet!

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KrisKringleGingleBells
Message #14888 - 12/20/10 02:11 PM

KGB - looks like you started mass chaos around here

I know.   I didn't mean to cause mass chaos.  I just tend to have a "Hope for the best, plan for the worst" attitude, and I wanted us to get our ducks in order. 

jenna, Congratulations on a healthy baby!!  I'm sorry you had such a difficult delivery.  I hope you start to feel better soon.

Econ, that's great that Maggie is doing so well.

stuck, Welcome!  Congratulations on your DD.

Meg, I thought of you this weekend.  I met some other moms and babies out for lunch.  It was a nice restaurant (but no fancy).  Clearly it's a kid-friendly place because they brought the babies crayons (Avery ate part of one. )  Towards the end of the lunch she just randomly started letting out these high-pitched shrieks.  I was so embarrassed.  She hasn't done that in forever.  She also learned how to climb the stove Friday night.  I caught her scaling it. 

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stina72
Message #14889 - 12/20/10 03:14 PM



Jenna-Thank you for sharing your birth story, I'm sorry it didn't go entirely as planned.  I'm also sorry you are having discomfort and trouble sleeping, I hope it clears up soon.

Eh-That's terrible about your bonus/raise.  Good luck finding something new very soon!

Econ-It's great to hear that Maggie is doing wonderfully! 

Drama-I loved the Pokey Puppy so much when I was little that I named one of our family dogs Pokey!

Oldfostermom-Your post(s) was so incredibly touching.  You are a wonderful woman and so incredibly inspiring! 

Stuck-Welcome!  I also lurked forever before posting and with the news of the possible shut down am kicking myself over waiting so long to actually post!

Ladyki-Good to hear you got such an amazing deal on your Wii! 

Red-How adorable about your niece!  I love moments like that too!

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gardenergirl0804
Message #14890 - 12/20/10 03:15 PM



jenna - your birthing story was VERY similar to mine. I labored and pushed for a long time like you but the baby wouldn't budge so I ended up having a c-section too. It wasn't technically an emergency, Olivia didn't have the cord wrapped around her or anything I just couldn't push anymore I was so exhausted. I was TERRIFIED too of the c-section. I could not get my body to stop shaking or teeth to stop chattering like you and I was in a LOT of pain as well from the incision. Like azure mentioned it helps to move around but don't overdo it. You shouldn't be lifting anything heavier than your baby. It probably hurts after you've been sitting for a while right? It feels like it gets stiff, you just need to take your time getting up. The pain will ease up. I took the pain meds when I was in the hospital but by the time I got home I only had to take the meds for a day and then I was ok, so that was about a week. I hope you feel better soon. I completely commiserate with you. And congrats on Baby E!!!

 

ladyk - I'm sorry about Kiani not wanting to Bfeed anymore. It's getting more difficult with Olivia as well. I have to find a quiet place, like upstairs in her room where there are no dogs or TV, etc. She gets distracted easily. Have you tried Bfeeding Kiani in a place like that? Quiet, no distractions, dimming the lights, etc?

 

oldfostermom - Your post really moved me  I am so grateful and love you for what you do!!! I hope our posts continue to inspire you and don't ever get you down.

 

stuckinsand - hello and welcome!!!

 

I couldn't get the link to work that moon posted. It said Page Not Found. I like the site that azure set up. I was able to setup a profile on that website.

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gardenergirl0804
Message #14891 - 12/20/10 03:23 PM

DH and I had our date night Friday night. It went... ok. It started early because we had a group lunch and then got to go home. I got home a little after 2:00. We went straight to the movie which was at 3:15. It was SO long. We didn't get out of the movie until almost 6:00. The dinner place we had picked out was about a half hour away and it was PACKED. We had about 11 names ahead of us and neither one of us wanted to wait but we really wanted that food. It's this cajun place that everyone who visits the area is told to go there and we hadn't had it in a while. Once you get your heart set on a type of food you just want it!! So we decided to order at the bar, have a drink for a bit and relax. We munched on some of the food because it came quickly. Then we went and picked up Olivia. We got to her DC at about 7:30. She wasn't the only baby in the room. It was a different teacher but she was really nice. She said she was about to give Olivia some dinner. Why they were going to feed her dinner so late was beyond me. I looked at her daily paperwork and they hadn't given her any baby food all day. Today they told me they tried but she refused to eat. So I knew she was going to be hungry that night. She woke up at 2 am screaming. I gave her a bottle and she drank it so fast and fell back to sleep right away. All in all it was a pretty good night. It was good for DH and I but also good for Olivia to be away from us for a night! I was glad we ended the night early. Olivia had slept terrible the night before. We were both so tired. We were both in bed at 9pm. On a Friday night. So sad I know.

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ElfQ1015
Message #14892 - 12/20/10 04:09 PM

We were both so tired. We were both in bed at 9pm. On a Friday night. So sad I know.

Not really.  DH and I are the same way, especially since he has to go to work at 4 am. I don't remember a night where I got to stay out past 8:30.

 

Gwen and I have a new game, she kicks my hand and I will fall over dramatically going "You kicked mommy!  Why why!".  She thinks it is hysterical, DH thinks I am a dork.


She's a very studious little baby.  I went over to my parents' house yesterday to celebrate my birthday and she was studying me very intently as I opened presents. She made the connection that interesting stuff came out of that paper.  I joked that she felt jilted because there wasn't anything for her. 

 

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KrisKringleGingleBells
Message #14893 - 12/20/10 04:32 PM



gardenergirl, I'm glad you and DH had a good date night.  I'm with you on the early bed time.  I got to bed around 9 almost every night.

Drama, Avery was always very observant even at a very young age.  I think that's a good sign that Gwen is a smart baby!  BTW, how are things going with your parents?  Is she still screaming when your dad tries to hold her?

I went to two parties this weekend on my own.  It was nice to get some adult time with my friends.  I didn't even leave for the party Saturday until it was Avery's bedtime, so I really didn't miss any time with her.  And yesterday my parents wanted to watch her.  It was just so nice to be able to sit down, eat, drink and have adult discussions about things like politics and current events.  Don't get me wrong, I love talking about Avery and baby things, but I need to keep my brain sharp in other areas too.

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ElfQ1015
Message #14894 - 12/20/10 04:40 PM

 how are things going with your parents?  Is she still screaming when your dad tries to hold her?

Going great.  She was sitting on my dad's lap the entire time.  I noticed recently that when she is really tired she doesn't like anyone looking at her, talking to her and she only wants to be held by either me or DH.

 

We took it slow a couple weekends ago and I brought her over after lunch and her afternoon nap.  My dad carefully introduced himself to her while I was holding him and she gave him a HUGE grin.  My mom said it made his day.

 

She did scream at my MIL last Wendesday when we went to dinner at their house.  Handed her off to FIL, totally fine. I told DH it seems kinda petty, but I was kinda glad she did because it made me feel better to know it just wasn't my dad!

 

We're getting a lot better at reading her signals and I bring her home for a nap.  So we were only over there for a couple hours yesterday.  It seems to work better.


I am trying to keep things as quiet and calm as possible around the house right now so hopefully she won't get burned out come Christmas Eve and Christmas.

It was just so nice to be able to sit down, eat, drink and have adult discussions about things like politics and current events.  Don't get me wrong, I love talking about Avery and baby things, but I need to keep my brain sharp in other areas too.

That's how I felt when I went out with my BFF.  DH pointed out we still talked quite a lot about Gwen but I pointed out that I didn't have to do it in a baby voice and that I didn't have to spend several minutes trying to figure out why anyone's poop was bright green.

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gardenergirl0804
Message #14895 - 12/20/10 04:41 PM



Ok good. I don't feel so bad now that we went to bed at 9!

 

So cute about Gwen. She is going to be so smart.

 

Did I tell you ladies about how Olivia plays peek-a-boo with me? She started doing it on our trip with a cloth, holding it up over her face and putting it down and smiling. But now she does it all the time. She hides around the ottoman and comes out and I say Peek-a-boo! And she smiles so big. She was doing it last night at bedtime. I always look at a book with her in her room. It was a small book this time and she took it from me and covered her face with it and would put it down, I'd say Peek a boo and she'd smile so huge. It's so cute! She's also waving now when you say Hi or Bye. And she shakes her head back and forth when you say No.

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ElfQ1015
Message #14896 - 12/20/10 04:47 PM

She started doing it on our trip with a cloth, holding it up over her face and putting it down and smiling. But now she does it all the time. She hides around the ottoman and comes out and I say Peek-a-boo! And she smiles so big. She was doing it last night at bedtime. I always look at a book with her in her room. It was a small book this time and she took it from me and covered her face with it and would put it down, I'd say Peek a boo and she'd smile so huge. It's so cute

 

Cute!  Gwen is either still too young for peek-a-boo or she thinks it's crap, I've tried it with her and she has a look on her face every time like "yeah, and?"

 

I've been trying to teach her "hi" and "bye" by waving at the dogs.  When they walk by I go "Hi doggy" and when they leave I go "bye doggy!"  Dogs think I am insane.

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KrisKringleGingleBells
Message #14897 - 12/20/10 05:02 PM

Avery waves with her hand backwards towards herself, which kind of makes sense because that's what they see when they look at us waving.   She knows more than I realize.  It's fascinating and scary how much they absorb.  Yesterday I said to her, "Your nails are getting too long.  Mommy needs to get your nail clippers."  Avery ran into the bathroom and pointed at the basket where I keep her nail clippers.  I had no idea she knew that.

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ElfQ1015
Message #14898 - 12/20/10 05:07 PM



Clipped Gwen's nails yesterday.  DH was peeved because I managed to not only not cut her while doing it but also did it when she was AWAKE.  I told him honestly the trick for me was to just do it and not think about it. 

 

We learned how to play fetch this morning.  Throw the bear: mommy fetches it.  Took me about three times before I figured out she was doing it on purpose.

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KrisKringleGingleBells
Message #14899 - 12/20/10 05:13 PM

We learned how to play fetch this morning.  Throw the bear: mommy fetches it.

One of Avery's favorite games is to walk over to the gate to upstairs, throw a toy over and fuss and cry until we retrieve it and then laugh and smile.  I really think she's just trying to get us to open the gate so she can climb upstairs.  She loves to climb the stairs.  She is such a little monkey!  She's also taken to decorating the trash can in the kitchen with Christmas bows.  She puts the bows (stolen from the presents underneath the tree, naturally) on top of the trash can and then claps and laughs.

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ElfQ1015
Message #14900 - 12/20/10 05:15 PM

My kid is training me.  It was when I caught her looking at me waiting for me to come get the bear that I figured out what the little booger was doing.

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ladyki
Message #14901 - 12/20/10 05:21 PM

ladyki - sounds like a great deal on the Wii!  We never bought too many toys for the kids when they were little b/c we always got so much stuff from everyone.  I usually bought a bunch of clothes though.  Now that they're a bit older, I picked up a few more toys for the kids.  We'll see if they don't get bored of them too quickly. 

Boosmom- I know I went a little crazy on buying her stuff. My sister has already told me that she got Kiani a bunch of stuff. Yesterday I went online and bought her a activity jumper.

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kjsh
Message #14902 - 12/20/10 05:51 PM

Jenna - i'm glad you can get some input from the ladies here about tips and even just reassurance that the pain and discomfort will get better.  I don't have anything useful to add but am wishing you a speedy recovery.
Econ - thanks for sharing your story - I copied and emailed it to DH to give him another perspective on things.  Hopefully I'll be as lucky as you are (if this guy ever decides he's ready to come out).
Everyone's kids sound so cute.  I love the stories about all the things they're learning (or that they're teaching mom and dad ).
So I'm 39 weeks and still going strong - that is if going strong means being exhausted, fairly uncomfortable and distracted .  Honestly, I'm guessing that on the range of 39-week pregnant ladies I'm in the "not actually doing too bad" category.  I see my doc tomorrow so fingers crossed that there's some progress.
Sunday I surprised DH with a "Jeffrey morning."  He's wanted to see an exhibit at the museum for months now and we just haven't made time for.  So I decided that Sunday morning would be only for things he's wanted to do, especially since he's been so focused on supporting me and the baby for months now.  He was surprised and loved his morning so yay for me!
Quick question - I am so incredibly over being hot all the time.  How long after giving birth did it take for your internal thermostat to reset to pre-pregnancy levels? (and please don't tell me it doesn't reset - I miss my old cold-blooded self with the icicle fingers and toes)
Happy week of Christmas all!

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ElfQ1015
Message #14903 - 12/20/10 05:54 PM

How long after giving birth did it take for your internal thermostat to reset to pre-pregnancy levels? (

I don't really know, it comes and goes now with my hormones going up and down.  For the most part I was back to being able to survive Iowa's summer heat a couple days after I got home from the hospital.

 

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boos_mom
Message #14904 - 12/20/10 06:21 PM



kjsh - for me, I was still overheating all the time I continued to BF/pump.  It was a notch or two less than it was while pg, but not much lower.  Maybe it won't be like that for you....

ladyki - just be sure to keep your receipts, in case you get duplicates.    The exersaucer/jumper was a lot of fun for #2 (we never got one for #1).  If you don't receive one for a gift, a Bumbo was also quite helpful too (even if only for a few months).

gardener - glad your night out was enjoyable.  I went to a wedding this weekend with my mother.  DH watched the kids.  I was surprised that #2 was asleep by the time we got home, about 9:40, but #1 was waiting up for me.  I expected it to be the reverse!

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EconStudent07
Message #14905 - 12/20/10 06:22 PM

Econ - thanks for sharing your story - I copied and emailed it to DH to give him another perspective on things.  Hopefully I'll be as lucky as you are (if this guy ever decides he's ready to come out).

Aww, I'm glad you enjoyed reading it. I hope you have the birth you want. My water broke at 39 weeks 5 days, so don't give up yet.

Quick question - I am so incredibly over being hot all the time.  How long after giving birth did it take for your internal thermostat to reset to pre-pregnancy levels? (and please don't tell me it doesn't reset - I miss my old cold-blooded self with the icicle fingers and toes)

I think it's somewhat better right away. I'm not nearly as warm as I was while pregnant, but I'm still warmer than I was before--apparently it is so that we can keep our babies warm. Maggie lays on me a lot, and she stays very warm with just a diaper on. In the hospital she was only under the heat lamp while she actually had her bath--I kept her warm the rest of the time. That was one symptom I would have gladly kept...I hate being cold!!

Everyone, I love reading your stories about your babies/toddlers. They all sound so cute! Right now Maggie just stares or sleeps, but soon I'm sure she'll give me stories too. Right now the cutest thing she does is play with her mouth--she makes the funniest little faces, I love watching her.

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ElfQ1015
Message #14906 - 12/20/10 06:30 PM



We got a picture of Gwen smiling at my dad mere moments after birth.  My pediatrician said don't believe the hookey it is not GAS, it is a SMILE.


It is not a smile in the social imitation sense of "I smile, then you smile", but it is a geninue smile signifying contentment and happiness.


Too bad DH cut off my dad's head when he took the shot!  He does this quite often when taking photos.

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boos_mom
Message #14907 - 12/20/10 06:30 PM



I checked out that Bundle website, and it looks a lot more like articles vs. a nice little message board.  So, I guess everyone who wants to will move over to the Baby Center website when this message board closes? 

For those who don't move over, thanks for sharing.  I really have enjoyed reading everyone's posts.

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ElfQ1015
Message #14908 - 12/20/10 06:34 PM

Where are you guys hiding on baby center?  I can get to the site, but I don't know where you guys are hiding.

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gardenergirl0804
Message #14909 - 12/20/10 06:36 PM



kgb - how funny about Avery knowing where the clippers are! Kids are so observant and they listen! I'm always telling DH watch what you say and what's on the TV when Olivia is around! The older she gets, the more she picks up on.

 

kjsh - I'm sorry you are so uncomfortable. I remember the last few weeks, the worst thing for me, was driving in my car. I just felt so squished! Just try to find the most comfy position and put your legs up. You're almost there!

 

 

An announcement was put out about the message boards being retired  They are going to using a website called Bundle.com. I have never heard of it. Anyone have any experience with this website or should we stick with BabyCenter?

 

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gardenergirl0804
Message #14910 - 12/20/10 06:38 PM



Did you try the link that Azure attached? If you use the link it takes you right to the WIR board that she setup.

 

community.babycenter.com/groups/a6723121/wir?

[Virgil Showlion]

ElfQ1015
Message #14911 - 12/20/10 06:40 PM

always telling DH watch what you say and what's on the TV when Olivia is around!

I asked my dad if he was a woman trapped in a man's body at the tender age of 4.  My dad asked if I understood what I was saying and I went on to explain transexuality.  He asked me where I got it from and I very calmly replied "Donahue".

 

My parents paid a lot closer attention to what I was watching on TV after that.

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EconStudent07
Message #14912 - 12/20/10 06:44 PM

Did you try the link that Azure attached? If you use the link it takes you right to the WIR board that she setup.

Thanks for posting the link again, it didn't work for me before but it does now!

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ladyki
Message #14913 - 12/20/10 06:55 PM



stuck- welcome to the board and congrats on your DD. My DD was born on 8/1, when was your born?

 

I'm sorry about Kiani not wanting to Bfeed anymore. It's getting more difficult with Olivia as well. I have to find a quiet place, like upstairs in her room where there are no dogs or TV, etc. She gets distracted easily. Have you tried Bfeeding Kiani in a place like that? Quiet, no distractions, dimming the lights, etc?

gardengirl- yes I have tried and no luck. today I tried again and she just took it for a couple of seconds, she pulled away and made a face, like she did nt like what she was tasting, lol.

 

Drama- Happy Birthday!!! or Belated Birthday!!!

 

gardengirl- glad to know you had fun with your DH.

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boos_mom
Message #14914 - 12/20/10 06:58 PM



#2 has already use the **** in a contextually appropriate manner.  Thanks, Daddy!    #1 is pretty good about not using the inappropriate language she hears a lot from DH's side of the family.  I hope it continues

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ladyki
Message #14915 - 12/20/10 07:01 PM

I use to be a member at babycenter but I cant reacall any of my information. I am trying to set up a new account and it is not letting me. I will try again later.

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ElfQ1015
Message #14916 - 12/20/10 07:04 PM

#2 has already use the **** in a contextually appropriate manner.  Thanks, Daddy!

Hahaha, I did that too!  I told DH if Gwen's first word is "dumb a**" and she says it front of his mom, I am pointing at him. I have a squeaky clean mouth, that is my story and I am sticking to it.

[Virgil Showlion]

KrisKringleGingleBells
Message #14917 - 12/20/10 07:10 PM

How long after giving birth did it take for your internal thermostat to reset to pre-pregnancy levels?

Mine never changed.  I am always cold.  Even though I was pregnant in the summer I was still cool all the time.  It was a cool summer, but I kept wishing I would get the pregnancy hot flashes everyone was talking about because I was like a popsicle in my air conditioned office!

should we stick with BabyCenter?

I'll get registered on BabyCenter.  One of the posters from EE set up a board for the MSN refugees.  It's very much like this board as far as how the threads run.  She added a WIR and we could start a pregnancy thread there too.  Here's the link if you ladies want to check it out and see what you think:  notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi

 

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ElfQ1015
Message #14918 - 12/20/10 07:21 PM

That's a lot like the coforum my wedding boards went to.  I like the notmsnmoney if it sticks around a lot better than Babycenter, I found it rather hard to navigate.

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boos_mom
Message #14919 - 12/20/10 07:22 PM



kgb - I've registered for that one too.  I can get those boards at work.  And I figure the EEers & YMers will be over there too. 

Whatever the consensus is.  I think the babycenter is cute b/c folks can add in more pictures and tags and things if you're into those things.  I just can't get the website at work. 

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KrisKringleGingleBells
Message #14920 - 12/20/10 07:27 PM

I'll start a new thread for us at the new WIR site.  We can experiment with everything and see what suits us best.

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ElfQ1015
Message #14921 - 12/20/10 07:30 PM

I already did it, I am looking for everyone, where are you!?

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gardenergirl0804
Message #14922 - 12/20/10 07:37 PM

Drama - I see where you set it up. I also see KGB's. I'm not on that one so I'll have to sign up to use notmsnmoney. If I can figure it out!

[Virgil Showlion]

ElfQ1015
Message #14923 - 12/20/10 07:40 PM

You sign in and then it'll send you a confirmation email you need to click on. 

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KrisKringleGingleBells
Message #14924 - 12/20/10 07:42 PM

Ooops.  I didn't see Drama's thread.  Should we take one down?  I don't want to nix mine in case you're doing it too, and then we'll be back to no threads!

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ElfQ1015
Message #14925 - 12/20/10 07:44 PM



I don't know, what do you think?  Maybe keep both but make one pregnancy and one about parenting?

 

I will admit sometimes it does get confusing to talk about both at the same time on here.  We could still flit between both threads.

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gardenergirl0804
Message #14926 - 12/20/10 07:45 PM

I think we should have just one thread. I like reading about those that are pregnant. I think the mix of pregnant and parenting is good!

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KrisKringleGingleBells
Message #14927 - 12/20/10 07:46 PM

Ladies of the board:  What say you?  Separate parenting and pregnancy threads or keep them all together like we have now?  Let's take a vote.

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ElfQ1015
Message #14928 - 12/20/10 07:49 PM

I don't care either way, just somebody let me know before I delete my thread!  I'll go ahead and delete mine if everyone decides to keep one thread.

[Virgil Showlion]

Sam814 - 11wks
Message #14929 - 12/20/10 07:51 PM

I like having both together.  I go over to the Pregnancy board on MSN too - Kymber said those would not be affected, so maybe we don't have to leave MSN all together.  We can just go over there & start our own thread.  There are quite a few of us who cross back & forth between the two, so it would not be that bad of a transition.

boards.msn.com/Healthboards/board.aspx?BoardID=86

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boos_mom
Message #14930 - 12/20/10 07:52 PM

I'd vote for just one thread. 

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ElfQ1015
Message #14931 - 12/20/10 07:55 PM



Okay, I "deleted" mine, kinda.  Whatever, I directed everyone to Kgb's post.

 

Sam I've been over to the pregnancy lifestyle boards and they are so DEAD.

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #14932 - 12/20/10 07:57 PM

Sam I've been over to the pregnancy lifestyle boards and they are so DEAD.

Really?  I jump back & forth from there to here all day long.  Seems like there's always new stuff going on over there. 

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ElfQ1015
Message #14933 - 12/20/10 07:59 PM

Hmm. . .maybe I was just there in an off week, I was over there the week of Thanksgiving.

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #14934 - 12/20/10 08:03 PM

Maybe that was it.  Today has been a busy one, but its kind of like here - nights, weekends, and times when people are not at work get pretty slow .  Says a lot about us I guess.... 

[Virgil Showlion]

Sam814 - 11wks
Message #14935 - 12/20/10 08:05 PM

Speaking of... only 24 more minutes until I can go home today!  I love the end of the year when I have saved up vacation - lots of short days & short weeks. 

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MuttleynFelix
Message #14936 - 12/20/10 08:18 PM



I'm personally a big fan of Babycenter, but its because I've been on there for almost 2 years.

Oh lord I am tired. I took a nap yesterday, so I didn't want to go to bed last night.  Then DS was up at 3:30 instead of 5:30 like he had been doing, but he went back asleep. Fortunately he woke up at 6:40, because I was still in bed and I have to be at work by 8.  Now I'm sitting at work trying not to fall asleep. UGH.

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alpha_yankee
Message #14937 - 12/20/10 08:29 PM

My parents paid a lot closer attention to what I was watching on TV after that.

I learned this when DS (5yo) said, "Mommy, you look sad.  Cymbalta can help."

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insurancemoneymaven
Message #14938 - 12/20/10 08:37 PM



Hi, girls! My weekend was fantastic - I GRADUATED with my Bachelors! Finally - and just in time before DS' arrival. DH took me to dinner to celebrate, and I will walk in the Spring ceremony.

 

DH is also a deal chaser, and found some crazy deals that Lowe's was doing this week. Something like 90% off of some great items, like a generator, Dyson, among others. I have a Dyson now, which I had before we got our dog. I really wanted the Dyson animal because our husky sheds crazy amounts. So we got a new Animal Dyson for $58! I am thrilled. He also won a a Bissell pro steamer for $18. It's perfect timing because I wanted to clean the carpets before we put the nursery together, and major traffic areas in the house before DS arrives.

 

He picked them both up today, and he is on vacation from work for the next two weeks, so he's got some projects he can do while at home. It's so nice having him home, even though I am working. His office is over an hour away from mine, so we never get to meet for lunch or anything. Today, he surprised me and took me to the sandwich shop by work. It was a simple little lunch, but so nice to just have some time together.

 

DS is an active little fellow. You can see him shaking and jumping all around my tummy, especially after I eat and before bed. He's really taken to kicking the snot out of my ribs. I should complain (it can be painful), but I just LOVE feeling him. It's so reassuring.

 

I am at the point where people feel compelled to tell me I am too small to be 30 1/2 weeks along. When I tell them that DS is actually measuring a week ahead size wise, they look at me confused. Funny how people can come in all shapes, colors and sizes, but heaven forbid a pregnant woman doesn't look just so. And I feel like a whale. He's totally shifted my tummy directly ahead of me and it has definitely grown in the past 3 weeks. It doesn't really bother me other than the fact that suddenly, everyone becomes a pregnancy expert. Thanks folks, but I'll leave that up to my OB.

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ElfQ1015
Message #14939 - 12/20/10 08:48 PM

"Mommy, you look sad.  Cymbalta can help

LMAO!

 

When I tell them that DS is actually measuring a week ahead size wise, they look at me confused. Funny how people can come in all shapes, colors and sizes, but heaven forbid a pregnant woman doesn't look just so

Turn it around and ask them what exactly a pregnant woman should look like?  Watch them turn red.  Often people confuse FAT with pregnant.  BIG difference.

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emerald04
Message #14940 - 12/20/10 08:59 PM

"Mommy, you look sad.  Cymbalta can help

LMAO also, just about spit my drink out on this one.  From a 5 year old?  They do say some funny stuff.  When I tried to encourage DS and potty training the other day by telling him that even the the cat uses his potty, DS replied:  I'm not a cat.  I'm "name".  I'm a boy.  Yes, thanks I know dear. 

I'm not posting much these days, but checking everything on the boards coming down.  So far, from work I can't get to the not msn board here at work.  I can get to babycenter, although I didn't try to sign in. 

Oh, I do have a question.  My period started the other day (bummer).  DD is almost 9 months old.  I wasn't on any hormonal BC yet (why encourage a period unless necessary?), although I was going to start soon, so I could get the timing right (vacation in late April/early May).  Well, doesn't it just figure, the timing of this is such that its right over my vacation if my cycle is regular, and it usually is. 

Anyway, how exactly does it go to adjust the cycle articifically?  Do I skip my week of blanks and start the new pack?  I need to move things up by two weeks by the end of April.  I will not be having my period over my 10 year anniversary trip.  NOT.  I intended to be using patches this time around, rather than pills.  Does that make a difference?  What a headache.     

[Virgil Showlion]

ElfQ1015
Message #14941 - 12/20/10 09:18 PM

Anyway, how exactly does it go to adjust the cycle articifically?  Do I skip my week of blanks and start the new pack? 

Do you want to skip a month?  If you are wanting to skip your period then you do not stop taking your pills, you skip the blanks and go right to the next pack however it is important that you COMPLETE that package because if you try to stop in the middle to delay your period by two weeks, you could end up pregnant because now you messed up your schedule.

 

I skipped mine while in Malayasia, no way I wanted to be dealing with that in the jungle.  So I just started the next package and then when I reached the placebos I went back to having a "period". 

 

You do not have a true period on the pill, it is called "breakthru" bleeding and is due to the drop in hormones.  You do not build a uterine lining and shed it while on the pill as you do during a true period.

The reason it is designed that way is because way back when pregnancy tests were way more expensive than they are today and a built in "period" can tell you if you have an oopsie that month or not.

 

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insurancemoneymaven
Message #14942 - 12/20/10 09:24 PM

I learned this when DS (5yo) said, "Mommy, you look sad.  Cymbalta can help."

HILARIOUS!

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insurancemoneymaven
Message #14943 - 12/20/10 09:25 PM

Turn it around and ask them what exactly a pregnant woman should look like?  Watch them turn red.  Often people confuse FAT with pregnant.  BIG difference.

I like it Drama! When people felt inclined to constantly touch my stomach, I started rubbing theirs too - it quickly stopped.

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KrisKringleGingleBells
Message #14944 - 12/20/10 09:31 PM



insurance, Congratulations!!  I'm glad you had a good weekend.

I learned this when DS (5yo) said, "Mommy, you look sad.  Cymbalta can help."

OMG!  That is so funny.  Thanks for the laugh!!

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Momma x3-soon to be 4
Message #14945 - 12/20/10 11:04 PM

Ok ladies, I've been reading this thread for awhile now, but haven't posted.  Since they're going to be ending them, I figured I'd better introduce myself so you'd know who I was on whatever site we end up at (and so you don't think I'm a stalker ).  As my screen name shows, I'm a mom to 3, with #4 on the way.  DD1 is 5, DD2 is 4, and DD3 is 2.  Baby #4 is due April 26, so I'm just over half-way done this time through.  Some of you from the Midwest WIR board may recognize me.  I'm in Kansas and glad to have something to keep me entertained while I'm at work.

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insurancemoneymaven
Message #14946 - 12/20/10 11:14 PM

welcome Momma and stuck!

[Virgil Showlion]

regina24601
Message #14947 - 12/20/10 11:37 PM



Hey everyone!  Busy weekend - my dad was in town, so I didn't spend much time online (and I took a vacation day today - verrry nice!)

jenna - Congrats, and welcome Baby E!!! 

Econ - I'm glad Maggie's checkup went well.  Sounds like she's gaining weight really well!

Lots of other things to comment on that I can't remember - but it is fun to read about everyone's babies and little ones!  Oh, and alpha, I CRACKED UP reading what your DS said about Cymbalta.  Classic!!

I'm on the babycenter thread and the proboards forum now, so I'm okay whatever ends up sticking.  I kind of like the format of the proboards better, but I don't really care as long as we stick around SOMEWHERE in some format!  Darn these MSN overlords, trying to be profitable....oh well.

37 week checkup tomorrow.  I'll be officially "full term" on Wednesday.  I've been having some Braxton Hicks over the past week, but they must be pretty mild because they're not painful.  They just are uncomfortable and make me kind of freeze in place until they pass because I cringe thinking about touching my belly or bending over or sideways when they come on.  Oh...here comes one now, actually.  But I have a feeling this kid's gonna be overdue (based on family history) so I better make myself comfortable!  I could have 4 more weeks of pregnancy!  I'm ready for her to come, but I actually feel great, so I can't complain at all.  Hope that keeps up for as long as she hangs on in there!! 

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #14948 - 12/20/10 11:38 PM

Momma x3 - are you finding out the sex of this baby? 

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red_wagon
Message #14949 - 12/21/10 12:40 AM

Hey ladies. Another question. I read somewhere that you can't take tums or other antacids like Nexium and Zantac during pregnancy. this seems cruel, since I've also read pregnant women get really bad reflux. Since I already HAVE really bad reflux and take Nexium and tums daily, this would be a major thing to work through during pregnancy and it has me worried. Just wondering what your experience was with reflux and what you did to make it better.

Also, any of you have DH's that are SUPER sound sleepers? I wake up at the drop of a pin and DH can sleep through anything (including me yelling his name) so I fear that I will end up being the one getting up all night. Just curious if any of you have similar DH's!!

Thanks!

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EconStudent07
Message #14950 - 12/21/10 01:51 AM

I am at the point where people feel compelled to tell me I am too small to be 30 1/2 weeks along.

argh, people should really keep their mouths shut! When I was 31 weeks, a cashier at a store told me that I was "too large" to still have 9 weeks left. What do you even say to that?!

regina, I'm glad the braxton hicks aren't bothering you too much. They aren't supposed to be painful, but mine got really uncomfortable after awhile. Thinking about it as possibly having 4 weeks left should make time go a little quicker. People get really impatient when they starting thinking any minute now at 37 weeks.

red wagon, you may find that your DH doesn't sleep as soundly through baby cries. If not, maybe you could work something out so that he agrees to get up with the baby at a certain point, and you can wake him up if necessary. For instance, my baby has settled into a little routine of waking up at 4am, eating, and not wanting to go back to bed. She's wide awake and wants someone to hold her. My husband sleeps through this, but I wake him up and he takes care of her.

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taz157 - 10 wks
Message #14951 - 12/21/10 02:22 AM

jenna - Congrats on Baby E! 

insurance - Congrats on graduating!    How exciting and refreshing that your done before the baby arrived.

emerald - When you are supposed to take a week of blanks, start a new pack instead and take as normal.  I ended up skipping mine shortly before I got married as I didn't want my period during my honeymoon. 

Today was my 1st doctor's appointment!  They ended up doing a Doppler scan (e.g., vaginal ultrasound and hope I said the right thing) and we got to see the little kidney bean.    I will say it was a little uncomfortable having this "thing" in me while my feet are in the footholders (can't spell the actual name ) while my DH was in the room.     Needless to say, he didn't stay close to me, but was against the wall the whole time seeing the scan's projection on the wall opposite me.  The doctor was having an issue getting a good picture in the beginning and had my DH and I wonder if there was either 1) something wrong or 2) more than 1.  I even asked her if there was only 1 in there and she said there is only 1 that she could see.    Eventually, s/he cooperated and we were able to get a picture.    I go back in 4 weeks and have to get some blood work done before I go back, which they told me where to go with the information I need to bring.    Other than that, the food saga continues and I have been feeling a little better in the morning, but still have issues finding what I like to eat and can eat.

I have already signed up for the other 2 boards mentioned.  At least they did tell us ahead of time instead of stopping it without any warning. 

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regina24601
Message #14952 - 12/21/10 02:39 AM

I read somewhere that you can't take tums or other antacids like Nexium and Zantac during pregnancy.

Omg, redwagon, where did you read that?  It must have been written by someone who HATES PREGNANT WOMEN!!  I've had killer heartburn all throughout my pregnancy and my doctor told me I can take Zantac, Pepcid, and Tums.  I don't know about Nexium (and I'd still check with your doctor rather than listen to a stranger on a message board ) but there are DEFINITELY approved relief options out there for pregnant women.

Oh wow...I can't even imagine surviving these past few months without my Tums.  I think I've gone through over a dozen of those big bottles - I even sleep with one every night, and if I don't have some in my purse I freak out!  (FWIW, I didn't suffer from heartburn at all pre-pregnancy, so I don't know if yours will get worse since you already suffer from it.)  Zantac also helps me, but Tums are my go-to for sudden onset.

[Virgil Showlion]

Sam814 - 11wks
Message #14953 - 12/21/10 02:53 AM

red wagon - funny thing, I had heartburn & all kinds of gastro-issues before I got pregnant.  But, the last 7 weeks of actually being pregnant have seemed to "cure" it.  As long as I don't overeat, I don't get heartburn anymore.  Its been great! 

Ok ladies - I know you all will understand.  We ran to the grocery store tonight to get something for dinner (since everything in the house sounded disgusting).  I left with like 12 bottles of juice/milk because I couldn't choose what I wanted.  DH just laughed at me & put them all in the car (and carried them all in).  Plus I got 2 giant bags of grapes and more oranges.  This kid LOVES grapes and oranges!  I sent my mom a text to tell her that preggo grocery shopping was so much FUN!  And super expensive

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sbcaligirl
Message #14954 - 12/21/10 02:54 AM

Red Wagon: 1) As far as Tums/Acid Reflux medicines go, it often depends on your doctor.  Some docotors/midwives don't allow them but others do.  I know personally my midwives allow both.  With DD I used tums in the beginning until about the 3rd trimester when things got worse and I had to break out generic Zantac.  My midwives said if the Zantac didn't work they'd be happy to write me a prescription for something stronger but I ended up not needing it.  This time around, I've been eating tums like crazy again so I foresee the same type of issues later.  I do recall though on this board some women who's doctors did not want them using tums or anything over the counter so definitely something to ask doctor in the beginning if you're worried. 2) My DH is a very, very sound sleeper and we had some issues when DD was a newborn.  What we did to help was have DH sleep in the living room with the baby on nights when I just had to get a whole night's sleep.  The rest of the time, if it was his turn, then I would just smack him until he woke up.  As she got older and woke up less, it became less of an issue but I still have to wake him up mostly because he just sleeps through her normal crying.  Once she becomes hysterical, that's a whole other story but we obviously don't want it to get that far.  I also am a very light sleeper but I've gotten much better about falling back to sleep quickly if I do wake up once DD was born and as she grew.


 

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EconStudent07
Message #14955 - 12/21/10 03:18 AM

Ok ladies - I know you all will understand.  We ran to the grocery store tonight to get something for dinner (since everything in the house sounded disgusting).  I left with like 12 bottles of juice/milk because I couldn't choose what I wanted.  DH just laughed at me & put them all in the car (and carried them all in).  Plus I got 2 giant bags of grapes and more oranges.  This kid LOVES grapes and oranges!  I sent my mom a text to tell her that preggo grocery shopping was so much FUN!  And super expensive

hahaha! BTDT!

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red_wagon
Message #14956 - 12/21/10 04:19 AM

Thanks ladies! Good to know there's hope! That was seriously one of my biggest concerns as we start thinking about TTC. Now I can go back to freaking out about the epidural lol.

sbcaligirl - first off, congrats! Didn't know you were on #2! And second, thanks for the great advice on both fronts. It feels good to figure out these little issues now instead of worrying about them for the next year or two hehe. I have an appointment with my doctor in January and I'll bring it up. We need to figure out a medication plan for me anyways (need to wean off at least 3 medications before TTC, which should be loads of fun). Ah, the joys of chronic illness... but determined to do it!

Sam - Eating habits and cravings fascinate me. I've read stories of people hating their favorite foods and never liking them again (again, don't remember where I read this...) or people suddenly liking things they never liked. I'd be sad to hate popcorn, but it'd probably be good for me. I eat way too much of it hehe. Glad you enjoyed your shopping trip so much! I hope I'm craving fruits and veggies when it's my turn!

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #14957 - 12/21/10 05:05 AM

Oh, don't worry, Red Wagon.  Its not all healthy stuff.  A couple weeks ago it was taquitos.  I went into the local mexican restaurant so many times that the guys would see me, smile real big, and say "Taquitos?" - LOL!  Its sad when they know your order as soon as you walk in the door!

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Meg - Mommy to Averie
Message #14958 - 12/21/10 05:56 AM

KGB, sorry your story about Avery shrieking made me chuckle.  And I think crayons are safe if eaten, although I bet her diaper has a bit of added color to it!

I registered on BabyCenter and I bookmarked the Not MSN Money site in case we go there.  I hang out on the Pregnancy board too.  It's usually pretty busy so I think you just hit it on an off week, Drama. 

So I have no idea what's happening around here, but I guess I'm the recipient of another Christmas miracle.  Was laying on the couch tonight trying to stave off death (AKA, my horrific cold that better be gone by Christmas ) while DH was out and Averie was napping.  Someone POUNDS on the door.  Seriously, I thought someone was coming to break in and kill me (putting me out of my misery? ).  I drag myself off the couch and open the door, person knocking was already gone.  "Secret Santa" left a box and a card.  The box was a Christmas gift for Averie, and the card had $500 in it .  I don't know if it's the same person as last time.  I only wish I knew who it was so I could properly thank them.  I posted on Facebook and on my personal blog thanking them, in case it's someone I know.  I'm just....shocked.

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jenna30-
Message #14959 - 12/21/10 10:35 AM

That's a wonderful gift, Meg.

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taz157 - 10 wks
Message #14960 - 12/21/10 11:58 AM

That's an excellent gift Meg!  You have people watching out for you, DH, and Averie. 

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KrisKringleGingleBells
Message #14961 - 12/21/10 01:22 PM

Also, any of you have DH's that are SUPER sound sleepers? I wake up at the drop of a pin and DH can sleep through anything (including me yelling his name) so I fear that I will end up being the one getting up all night. Just curious if any of you have similar DH's!!

My husband is like that.  An elbow will take care of any middle of the night situations that you want him to handle.

Meg, That's so wonderful that you have someone looking out for your family.  What a wonderful surprise.  I hope you feel better.  I've got a terrible cold too.  This fall/early winter has not been good for me.  I think I've been sick more than well.

red wagon, I took Tums while I was pregnant.  I have acid reflux anyways, and it was really bad during the last couple of months of my pregnancy.

Mommax3, Welcome and congratulations on #4.  I know someone else asked, but do you know if this one is a boy or a girl?

 

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gardenergirl0804
Message #14962 - 12/21/10 02:11 PM



Meg - wow, that is so nice! Have you asked any relatives if they are the ones leaving the money? Maybe it's someone who knows DH is unemployed and trying to help out? That is super sweet of the person though.

 

X3- welcome and congrats on #4! Out of curiousity are you hoping for a boy this time? Tell us a little about your girls sometime.  My brother has the exact opposite of you - he had 3 boys and then finally a girl.

 

red wagon - why are you worried about the epidural? One step at a time!! Your OB will give you a list of drugs you can take while pregnant. If something is not on the list that you want to take make sure you ask your doc. I had a very limited amount of drugs that I could take. Tums wasn't on the list, no pepto, I was dying! One week it was so bad I told the doc I felt like I needed something to coat my stomach. He told me to take Mylanta. It worked wonders for me. My DH is a very sound sleeper, but so was I pre-baby. It changed for both of us when Olivia arrived. He and I wake up very easily now when she cries. Well, me more than him! But it's also good to discuss it up front to make sure he is on board with getting up at night.

 

Sam - so which juice did you end up drinking when you got home? My cravings were strange, I craved strawberries and yogurt like crazy. It was super expensive for me because it was this time of the year when strawberries were not in season. I was paying $4+ for a small boxy. But it's all I craved so I had to have them! LOL

 

Econ - glad you had a good doc visit with Maggie! Sounds like doc reassured you that she will be a very healthy baby. You must be feeding her really good!

 

insurance - congrats on graduating! And before the baby. That is an awesome accomplishment!

 

Today is my last day at work this week - yah!! I have off tomorrow and I'm taking Olivia to her 9 month WBV. I can't wait to see how much she weighs/how tall she is. I get to meet her new pediatrician too. I'm so glad we switched and it's only 10 minutes from our house now. It's so nice. Then we have off for the holiday from work Thursday and Friday. A 5-day weekend, I can't wait.

 

 

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gardenergirl0804
Message #14963 - 12/21/10 02:21 PM



Kjsh - let us know how your appt goes today! Hopefully doc will tell you that you have dilated/effaced some. Can't wait to hear your baby story and that was super nice what you did for your DH the other day, and being so far along! And hopefully your internal thermostat will reset for you soon after you have your baby. I can't be of much help because I was super COLD my entire first trimester and it was summer here in the south! Then it was wintertime and I was comfortable.

 

Regina - hope the Braxton Hicks ease up. If they get too painful call your doc or the nurses line and let them know. They may want to check you out. Or at least mention it at your next appt.

 

Taz - congrats on getting to see your baby for the first time! Did you get to hear the heartbeat too?

 

 

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ElfQ1015
Message #14964 - 12/21/10 02:21 PM

Another question. I read somewhere that you can't take tums or other antacids like Nexium and Zantac during pregnancy. this seems cruel, since I've also read pregnant women get really bad reflux.

If you already have heartburn issues bring them up with your OB when you get pregnant.  If you are already on something they will either help you figure out how to stay on it or they will find you something similar that is pregnancy safe.

 

You will get a list from your OB of approved medications.  When in doubt call or ask your local pharmacist.


Tums and Rolaids were safe and then I could take Pepcid AC. I am lucky and work for someone who has a PharmD and he was able to give me the breakdown of how drugs work and what is considered "pregnancy safe" and why.  It would be boring for most mere mortals, but I found it prett interesting.

 

Red you are going to read A LOT of stuff that is largely based on misinformation and scare mongering.  When in doubt yes it always makes sense to avoid things, but you will go INSANE trying to follow every single piece of information you read about what to avoid.  I would have had to live in a sterile bubble eating only rice crackers and bottled water if I had listened to everything I read!

Your OB will be (hopefully) your best source of information, when you aren't sure you talk to them, that is what they are there for and much rather you call them 20 times a day then risk taking something you shouldn't.

 

Use your common sense.  Most women are not as stupid as these articles make us out to be, if you trust your common sense and when in doubt ASK, you will be just fine.

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #14965 - 12/21/10 02:26 PM

Gardnergirl - Hahah, I mixed two of them when I got home, because I still couldn't choose which one to have.  DH is quite amused at the moment.  He just keeps laughing & says "Oh Prego - what am I going to do with you?"

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alpha_yankee
Message #14966 - 12/21/10 02:34 PM

Also, any of you have DH's that are SUPER sound sleepers? I wake up at the drop of a pin and DH can sleep through anything (including me yelling his name) so I fear that I will end up being the one getting up all night. Just curious if any of you have similar DH's!!

He might sleep through my voice, but he has a hard time staying asleep when my fists and elbows get involved. 

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ElfQ1015
Message #14967 - 12/21/10 02:35 PM

wake up at the drop of a pin and DH can sleep through anything (including me yelling his name) so I fear that I will end up being the one getting up all night. Just curious if any of you have similar DH's!!

I usually sleep like the dead but I get up when Gwen cries, so does DH.  I find it's one thing when the dogs are barking or a loud truck goes by, it's quite another when it is your child crying.

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red_wagon
Message #14968 - 12/21/10 02:41 PM

Thanks for all the reassurance and advice, ladies! I especially like the elbow to DH in the middle of the night

Meg - wow. That is amazing. I love when people show such kindness still exists today.

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eternal sunshine - 29wks
Message #14969 - 12/21/10 02:44 PM



Hi all! I've been reading but so much is going on I can't comment on it all.

 

Meg - WONDERFUL Xmas surprise. I wouldn't go prying too much trying to find out who it is. The person obviously wants to remain anonymous and it might give them some extra joy knowing that you only know you have a guardian angel and not who it is. Make sense? That may be an extra kind way to thank them, just by using their gift in the best way possible, expressing your gratitude in a way they may overhear, but not actually "out" them.

 

insurance - congrats on your graduation!!

 

I had a regular appointment yesterday. Baby Cole is doing just fine. I've had sooo many ultrasounds during this pregnancy that this appt (28 weeks) was the first time I ever had them just use the doppler to listen for the h/b . The nurse (she is new) was definately surprised that it was my first time. My next appt is January 3 and I have another u/s just to check on his kidneys to see if the fluid levels continue to improve. My doctor seems very optimistic that based on the last amount of improvement that it may be fully resolved before his arrival. After that u/s, my doctor said we would schedule one more u/s between 36 and 38 weeks just to get a final head size (since the head growth is pretty much done at that point) so we can determine if a C-sec might be something I need to prep for since Cole's head has consistently measured large.

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jmrs318
Message #14970 - 12/21/10 02:50 PM

Wow, I haven't been able to read in a few weeks due to having work to do at work and A and myself being sick, so there is quite a lot to catch up on. 

Congrats to all the new moms and good luck to all of the moms to be!  Welcome to the new ladies as well!

Going to bed early - my parents have given us two dates nights since A was born and we've been home and asleep before 9pm both times.  If I can get to sleep before 9pm on any night I am so happy!  I do wake up at 4:45 every morning, but I've been doing that for the last 3 years for work so it isn't so bad.  A sleeps through the night too now so that makes things sooo much better.

A is sick again.  My parents watched her 2 weekends ago and apparently my mom was sick and passed a cold on to A, which turned into a sinus infection.  I ended up having to take her to the Dr. because she couldn't eat or sleep because she was so congested, it was so sad.  We did find out that in the past month she has gained 2 pounds and is now 17.5 pounds at almost 5 months.  She is quite the chunky baby.  We had to put her high chair together last weekend because her thighs are too big to fit in her bumbo anymore

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sebrenab
Message #14971 - 12/21/10 03:15 PM

Well it looks official the boards are going away. I just wanted to thank you all for your great stories and advice. Thanks to you my family is on its way to being debt free in about 2 years or so. That is starting with over 10,000 in CC debt and now down to about 4000. I have made it an almost cash Christmas (200 to Kohl's) paid in Feb! Two credit cards to be retired this summer, two more this spring. And only one CC, a student loan and my car left! All the while having had surgery, a baby, my husband having a Heart Cath, and a daughter with a tonsillectomy! I have been more a lurker than a writer but I appreciate all the help!

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gardenergirl0804
Message #14972 - 12/21/10 04:00 PM



sebrenab - join us over on our new thread at the following link

 

notmsnmoney.proboards.com/

 

Click on Women In Red and then "the kid thread". A lot of boards are moving over there.

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stina72
Message #14973 - 12/21/10 04:17 PM



Sam-I love hearing about fun things in pregnancies like cravings! 

Insurance-Congratulations on your graduation! 

Drama-Loved your fetch story!

Eternal-Good to hear everything went well at your appointment!

Taz-So happy you got to see your little one for the first time!

Meg-I'm so happy that you have wonderfully generous people in your life, even if you don't know exactly who they are!

Alpha-So funny about your DS!

You ladies moved fast yesterday, I had almost ten pages to catch up on!  I helped the youth at one of our facilities make cookies last night for themselves, their teachers, the other homes, etc., and wasn't able to follow all of the moving talk then so I registered on both sites today and will go where everyone decides the best fit is! 

 

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yogiii
Message #14974 - 12/21/10 04:40 PM

I just wanted to wish everyone Happy Holidays .  With the boards moving, a little vacation from work and just the general hussle and bussle of the next couple of weeks, I probably won't be around too much.

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red_wagon
Message #14975 - 12/21/10 04:41 PM

So I checked with my company and insurance. My company does 12 weeks paid child care leave, as long as you promise to come back. And they cover maternity/labor costs 100%.

Unfortunately I kind of hate my job (people are nice enough, job is eh) and was planning to leave in 2011. I am wondering what your maternity leave benefits were? How common is it for it to be paid? Almost feel like I should deal with a nonstimulating job just for the health benefits and leave policy, but that's not the best for me emotionally or intellectually, I don't think. That said, staying would allow us to have kids sooner if we didn't have to save up 3 months of my salary to make up for being home with the baby. But there's no room for advancement with my company and I'm bored out of my mind half the time (hence why I'm on here right now...) Just trying to get a read of how employers do it/what your experience was.

Insurance - congrats on graduation!!

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jmrs318
Message #14976 - 12/21/10 04:44 PM

red wagon - my company did 6 weeks from the date of birth of paid leave at 70% for a vaginal delivery and 8 weeks for CS.  This is only if you signed up for STD.  You had to be employed for 2 weeks after returning in order to not pay it back.

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red_wagon
Message #14977 - 12/21/10 04:48 PM

And could you take unpaid leave after that? That doesn't seem long at all!

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ElfQ1015
Message #14978 - 12/21/10 04:50 PM



I have to use sick/vacation time for paid maternity leave up to 8 weeks. I can take the last 4 weeks unpaid if I desire.

 

Majority of places do not pay or give you the option of using your vacation/sick time to pay for maternity leave.  I was required to burn it which makes sense to me because then I can't come back after 12 weeks unpaid leave and tell them I don't want to work anymore requiring them to pay me out all my PTO.

 

For FMLA you have to be at your employer of more than 50 employees for at least year  So you have to take that into consideration if you decide to switch jobs as well.

 

But there's no room for advancement with my company

Will you have time to advance with a new baby?  Will you want to?   The hard truth is that a lot of times we women get "mommy tracked" because we are often the ones that end up being the ones able to take time off for sick kids, doctor's visits, snow days etc.  Would your husband's job allow all this if you were to be promoted and could not?

It's something you have to think about when deciding to have kids. I am staying put in academia because of the benefits and flexibility right now.  DH's job doesn't allow him time off unless he is dying, so no taking off if the baby is sick, daycare is closed or if the doctor can't schedule a WBV after 3:00 pm.

 

I am okay with it because we already discussed it before we had kids and it just made sense for me to be the one to do all this.

 

Your job/career might have to take a backseat to children, so don't just look at your job right now as there is no room for promotion, while there might not be room for promotion there may be side benefits to sticking it out when having a kid (flexiblity, benefits, etc).

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jmrs318
Message #14979 - 12/21/10 04:53 PM

I could take the remaining 6 weeks unpaid under FMLA.  If I wanted to use my PTO, I would have to come back for at least one day and then I could take additional PTO and get paid. 

Also, if I was put on bedrest, STD would not kick in until 2 weeks later.  The first two weeks would have to be either unpaid or use PTO. 

Our vacation/sick time is lumped together as PTO.

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red_wagon
Message #14980 - 12/21/10 05:02 PM

Elf - I appreciate where you're coming from. But I'm not looking to run a company, just have a job that fulfills me more than my current one. I've been here for two years and have reached the max of what I can learn from it, and I strive to be constantly learning and improving. Luckily my industry is a creative one, and most companies are pretty flexible and relaxed about time off for things like that. Heck, my boss at my last job let me go home when I found out my childhood  dog died! By the time we started trying and got pregnant and had the baby, I'd be at a place for over a year (provided I get a new job in the first quarter of 2011, and I do have a very good lead on a job - interview after the holidays) but thank you very much for reminding me of that FMLA rule. In an ideal world I make enough contacts that I can go freelance like my SIL did earlier this year when she had her first child, but we'll see how that goes. And yes, DH currently has a very flexible job and actually is soon probably switching to a company that would allow him to make his own schedule and/or work from home 2-3 days a week, which would be great. Thanks for your input and advice though! I guess i just don't want to give up current happiness (by staying in a job that I've come to resent) just for a kid I'm having in a year+. When baby comes, then I'm sure priorities will change. But darn, those benefits are nice... I guess I'll see how the job hunt/interviews go, and make sure to find out about benefits so we can prepare as best we can financially.

Thanks again!

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kjsh
Message #14981 - 12/21/10 05:13 PM

Insurance - congratulations on graduating!
Heartburn/reflux - I've had killer heartburn and reflux throughout the pregnancy.  I was living on Tums, but somewhere in the second trimester they stopped working and I had so much acid that I couldn't fit both food and drink in my stomach at the same time.  So I got the okay to up to Zantac, which is what I've been living on since then.  With the Zantac I can now eat and drink a reasonable amount at the same time and the vurping is greatly reduced. 
Board migration - I've been on babycenter but haven't checked out the other board yet.  I'll go where the herd goes - I'm 39.5 weeks so I don't really care too much at this point
Update on my cervix - I'm now 2 cm dilated and soft, but still high and the baby hasn't dropped at all.  We're thinking at this point that he's not going to show up any time soon - which I suppose is okay because my OB heads out of town tonight and won't be back until Sunday.  But if babyH could see his way to coming on Monday the 27th or Tuesday the 28th that would be fine with me.
Stupid weather complaint that most people don't want to hear - OMG we're supposed to hit a record high today of 81!!!!!  At this time of year and this stage of pregnancy I'm supposed to at least by weather comfortable, not all extra swollen and sweaty from the heat and humidity outside.  <shakes fists at the weather gods>

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kjsh
Message #14982 - 12/21/10 05:19 PM

Oh, shoot I forgot to say that I love that there are good people out there Meg!  I think you've made a valiant effort to express your gratitude, but the secret santa seems to want to stay secret.  Just chalk it up to karma and know that you will remember this and be able to pass it along and help someone else out in the future.

[Virgil Showlion]

Sam814 - 11wks
Message #14983 - 12/21/10 05:20 PM

red-wagon - I have made the decision to stay where I am because of the benefits & flexibility.  I wouldn't say that I love my job by any stretch of the imagination, and sometimes its just so mentally un-stimulating that I want to go crazy!!  But I know I am super lucky to have the benefits I do (100% pay for 6/8 weeks depending on delivery, use vacation or take unpaid after that).  Also, my boss is great about working with me on dr appointments and any scheduling conflicts (I can work from home, or flex my schedule to make up time so I don't have to use vacation/sick).  And only being 5 minutes from home helps a lot too  

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kjsh
Message #14984 - 12/21/10 05:23 PM

Oh, and eternal - I'm glad the doc thinks that baby Cole's kidneys will continue to improve.
jmrs - sorry A is sick - I hope she feels better soon.  Chunky babies are just so cute.

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insurancemoneymaven
Message #14985 - 12/21/10 05:39 PM



thanks everyone!

 

Meg - that's amazing - secret santa should be called secret angel!

 

Reflux/Heartburn - I have a hiatal hernia and terrible reflux from it before being pregnant. I have done great with Tums and my doctor allows me to use Maalox liquid. I had to stop my Prilosec treatment as that was not approved for pregnancy. But it really hasn't been an issue.

 

eternal - glad you checked in - I was worried! I am glad Cole is improving. How are YOU feeling?

 

jmrs - sorry A is sick!

 

kjsh - I feel you. the first day of winter in CO and it's about 50 degrees. really?! I wanted a white Christmas!

 

maternity leave - my company is an employer of 10 people, so although I have been here for 4 years, I am not legally entitled by Federal or State regulation to any time off. However, my bosses are allowing me to take 8-12 weeks depending on DS' arrival date. All of it will be unpaid except any vacation time that I have and want to use. I will have about 120 hours paid time off. Otherwise, I have a short-term disability policy that will pay out for me, as well as savings that we planned to have for my leave.

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eh230
Message #14986 - 12/21/10 06:08 PM



Meg, your secret santa is amazing.  It is clear that s/he is aware of how hard you guys are trying.  How is DH's job search going?  Is that company going to get back to him before the holidays?

 

Maternity leave - I had 12 weeks paid, which is on the low end of standard in my industry (medium to large law firm).  It is definitely not standard compared to general corporate policies.

 

Heartburn - Tums did nothing for me, Rolaids soft chews, however, really helped.

 

Thanks ladies for letting me vent about my lack of raise/low bonus.  A couple of you asked if I planned to speak with managment.  I am still debating, but I will likely not address it with them.  The problem is that the person responsible for reviewing me is not the person responsible for setting the raises.  I will likely get told to talk to the CEO, which is frankly a losing battle.  Instead, I am going to try to focus my efforts on a job search.  If anyone knows of a company looking for corporate counsel, let me know.  

 

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anne81
Message #14987 - 12/21/10 06:13 PM

meg - that's wonderful!  I your secret santa.

eh - I'm sorry about your bonus.  Good luck with your job search.

jmrs - hope A feels better soon.

eternal - glad you got some good news - hope it continues to get better for Cole!

reflux/heartburn - I took prilosec through my pregnancy on my midwife's orders.  I also received zantac through an IV regularly.  DS seems normal enough but I could've gotten lucky!

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ladyki
Message #14988 - 12/21/10 06:19 PM

Insurance- Congrats on your bachelors also wohoo for the baby moving so much. I also loved to feel Kiani when she was still in my tummy it is a great feeling.

[Virgil Showlion]

boos_mom
Message #14989 - 12/21/10 06:21 PM



insurance - congrats on graduating!!!! 

meg - How wonderful!  Maybe you could hang a little angel outside your door with Thank You hanging from it.  Hope you feel better soon.

jmrs - Hope A feels better soon!  #2 is battling an ear infection as well.  The dr. said we can try to ride it out a little longer before she starts him on the antibiotics. 

kjsh - Maybe babyH will wait.  May everything go smoothly.

taz - glad you got to see the baby bean!

alpha - that is too funny! 

eternal - glad Cole's looking good.

red - I stayed home for 6 months, using up my leave and taking some unpaid leave.  But it's all based on the leave you have saved up.  STD would only cover 60% for 6 weeks (or 8 weeks for c/s) if you didn't have enough leave to cover the recovery portion. 

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ladyki
Message #14990 - 12/21/10 06:29 PM

Also, any of you have DH's that are SUPER sound sleepers? I wake up at the drop of a pin and DH can sleep through anything (including me yelling his name) so I fear that I will end up being the one getting up all night. Just curious if any of you have similar DH's!!

Redwagon- I had the exact same situation. DH's has sleeping has changed a little bit since Kiani was born. I am still the same, I wake up with every single little nose, so I really do not get much sleep. I am the one the wakes up every night during the week because DH works and I decided to stay home after Kiani was born. Anyways he is the one the getss up during the night on the weekends. Many times I have to wake him up or just kick him, lol, becuase he does not hear her.  I always hit the stores on Black Firday very early in the morning. This year I left my house at about midnight. I was scared to leave KIani with my Dh cause I was afraid he was not going to hear her at all. Well turns out he did hear her and she was not starving when I came back, lol.

 

Mom- welcome to the board.

 

Regina- Congrats on almost being full term, you are just a few weeks away of finally holding your baby.

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regina24601
Message #14991 - 12/21/10 06:39 PM



Meg - People can get really generous this time of year.  I believe in karma, and you must have had something really great coming your way, so I would just try to pay it forward in some form or fashion.  Don't you just love when the world surprises you in a good way? 

red - My employer (which is ginormous - we have like 250,000 employees worldwide) has a very generous (to me) maternity leave policy.  Actually, it's PARENTAL leave, so it's the same for new moms and new dads, which is pretty awesome.  It's 12 weeks of 100% paid leave with full benefits.  After that, you can fund additional time off with your vacation time, or you can take it unpaid up to 16 weeks (I think - it could be more, though).  I plan to just take my 12 weeks and save my vacation time, but it's nice to have the option.

I had my doctor's appointment today.  No change in anything, but she's still low and head down, so that's good at least.  My doctor that I have seen consistently for the past 9 months (and before that as my regular gyno) is leaving the practice January 1.    He told me this a couple of months ago, and he and I are crossing our fingers that she decides to come this week or next week sometime so he can deliver her.  But assuming that doesn't happen, then next week will be my last appointment with him before he hands me off to someone else in the group.  Kind of a bummer - he's a great doctor, and he's the one who told DH to shut up when DH was pestering me about not eating right.    Oh well, I'm sure the doctor he chooses for me will be just fine, too.

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MuttleynFelix
Message #14992 - 12/21/10 06:45 PM



leave - I work for a company of 5 (it was 6 when DS arrived). All my time off was unpaid as we have a use it or lose it calender PTO policy.  I just worked with my boss. I came back part time to begin with and then gradually worked longer days and more days until I was full time again.  Watch out for STD policies as many of them require you to take all of your sick leave first before they kick in.  With a calender year PTO policy, it didn't seem worth it to m e.

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eternal sunshine - 29wks
Message #14993 - 12/21/10 06:47 PM



aww insurance, don't be worried about me!!  I've been worrying about you and your contractions. Hoping that baby keeps baking!

 

I've been around consistently, just not able to comment as much. Work has really been a battle lately. Just trying to get through our busy time. Hopefully by Feb things will calm down just in time for me to get prepped for Cole.

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PalmettoLady
Message #14994 - 12/21/10 08:34 PM

 Baby #4 is due April 26, so I'm just over half-way done this time through.

Welcome! I'm due april 22nd! Have you (will you) determined sex? We are having a boy.

 

My next appt is January 3 and I have another u/s just to check on his kidneys to see if the fluid levels continue to improve.

How much fluid was seen? The Dr. also mentioned that some fluid was present in Asher's kidneys. However, seemed to think the amount was very small ( I think she said 3mm?) and that they may or may not do another ultrasound and would "just watch" to make sure he pees after birth? This was all at my appointment today, I haven't had time to look it up or anything yet.

 

RedWagon: You can always quietly look around for another job and inquire about their benefits when/if you are offered the position-- kind of look at that as part of the offer package in making your move.  However, WOW, I think %100 paid maternity / L&D is AMAZING. I will be about $3K out of pocket on medical alone when I'm done.

[Virgil Showlion]

red_wagon
Message #14995 - 12/21/10 08:55 PM

Palmetto - it does make it tempting to stay, and we'd probably start sooner as a result. My company might be crazy, but they do take care of their employees. The insurance coverage has been great for me and cut down my medical costs a lot already (chronic condition), which makes it hard enough to consider leaving. I didn't even bring up their amazing 403(b) plan, which is another thing it'll be hard to leave (12% of salary without my contributing a penny). A lot to ponder! DH has heard good things about his job prospect today, so we'd also be able to factor in benefits through his insurance too.

Thanks again, ladies! You don't know how helpful you've all been!

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eternal sunshine - 29wks
Message #14996 - 12/21/10 09:16 PM



Palmetto - my doc said it was a very small amount (almost your exact amount) and probably nothing. HOWEVER, they used to consider it a soft marker for downs and it can also point to a blockage in the urinary track or kidney (if the road is blocked, the urine will back up and into the kidneys). from what I read this is the most commonly identified abnormality in u/s and is most commonly found in boys. My u/s tech told me that it used to be a soft marker but isn't considered such anymore because with increasing u/s technology they now see this in 60 - 70% of babies. (seems like that makes it NORMAL and not abnormal right? )

 

Do yourself a favor and DO NOT GOOGLE IT!!!!! All the websites talk about the worst case scenerios (think MUCH more fluid than either you or I are talking about) and it can point to major concerns with kidney or genital development (from needing surgery to fatal ). Your doc is saying the same thing mine is that basically it has been identified and we will need to watch his output after he is born. The doc will also be notifying our pediatrician so it can be watched during the first year to make sure there is no sign of a problem.

 

My doc wanted an u/s to see if it got anyworse (I had to come in to finish the anatomy scan anyway since Cole wouldn't stay still the first time) and instead of getting worse we saw a big improvement. He wants another u/s to see if we see full resolution so that it can just be put away as a non-issue.

 

ETA: I want to say this again...DO NOT GOOGLE IT!!!!! I had nightmares about Cole for a week with all the new ammunition they gave my already over anxious imagination. The defects that can be identified by fluid in the kidney usually cause a LOT more fluid in the kidney than you or I are dealing with. In extreme cases of blockage, the baby can't pass the amniotic fluid they swallow causing big problems. This is clearly not happening to either you or me because baby just has a tiny amount. Baby will have swallowed MUCH more than that over the course of your pregnancy to point to such a severe issue.

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surf-n-sand
Message #14997 - 12/21/10 09:43 PM

When people felt inclined to constantly touch my stomach, I started rubbing theirs too - it quickly stopped.

Insurance- I am going to steal this!  What a great idea!!

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PalmettoLady
Message #14998 - 12/21/10 09:58 PM

Eternal: Thanks for your post, and reassuring words. I hadn't planned to google, I'm more of a WedMD-er, LOL. I had the anatomy scan two weeks ago and they saw fluid then, Asher wouldn't be still for the heart pictures so I had to come in again today. The fluid remained the same betwen the two appointments. Maybe when I go back in 4 weeks I will ask about having a follow-up ultrasound to just verify the fluid levels aren't increasing. I guess the Dr really downplayed it, then seeing your post made me wonder if they werent taking it seriously enough.

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #14999 - 12/21/10 11:46 PM

Surf - my favorite ever is the story about the stranger that came up to rub a lady's belly in the middle of a store.  The prego reached out & grabbed the stranger's boobs!!!  LOL!  Sad thing is that right now I could totally see myself doing that to someone

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ladyki
Message #15000 - 12/21/10 11:46 PM

taz, congrats on seeing the baby. It is always fun to see them but not too fun to have a vaginal ultrasound.

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ladyki
Message #15001 - 12/21/10 11:56 PM



Kiani had her 4 moths old shots today ( even though she is almost 5 months, lol). She did great she only cried for about 10 seconds and then was all smiles again. She is now 14 lbs and 2 ounces. She measures 25 inches. Dr. gave me the okay to start her on cereal and baby food. I told him that I had already started her. I think my baby is going to be like me, very pain tolerant. She has been kicking her legs like crazy, does not even seem like she got her shots.

 

meg- how nice. hope you keep on getting lots of gifts. Hey maybe you were good this year ans santa is just delivering your gifts early. Oh, hope you feel better soo.

 

 

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taz157 - 10 wks
Message #15002 - 12/22/10 01:15 AM

Did you get to hear the heartbeat too?

No, we didn't get to hear the heartbeat.  We only got to see the heartbeat instead.    Actually, my DH got to see the heartbeat as the doctor was standing in my way.    However, she did print out a picture for each of us and it is now 1 of the wallpapers on my cell phone (I get 3 - 1 of me and DH on our honeymoon, 1 is my 2 cats, and the other is now the kidney bean).    I just have to watch what is on my cell phone when some people are around as it isn't widely know that I am expecting. 

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jenna30-
Message #15003 - 12/22/10 02:00 AM

Thankfully, only 2-3 people rubbed my belly.   I would have flipped out if they had been strangers.

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #15004 - 12/22/10 02:08 AM

Taz - forgot to say earlier, but congrats on getting to see the LO and the heartbeat!!!!!

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eternal sunshine - 29wks
Message #15005 - 12/22/10 02:30 AM

I guess the Dr really downplayed it, then seeing your post made me wonder if they werent taking it seriously enough.

Palmetto - oooh...no that isn't what I meant for you to get by my post at all. Don't be extra worried...that is why I didn't want you to google it. No need for extra anxiety when there is no reason to. I think your doc is the right amount of concerned. My u/s tech told me that she hates even mentioning it because with the increase in u/s technology they can see things that used to be considered "abnormalities" in the majority of babies. So, for example, in years past you wouldn't even see fluid in the kidneys on u/s until it was a LOT of fluid. But now they can see even the tiniest amounts so that they see fluid in the majority of babies. Obviously the majority of babies don't have kidney defects so fluid in the kidneys can't always equal a problem like they used to think. Know what I'm saying? The tiny amount we are both seeing in our babies is not a cause for great concern...which is why our docs are saying that we will watch output after birth.

 

Please don't be worried Palmetto. I just wanted to tell you the info I found online and what I had read about the issue and what it can sometimes mean and what it likely means. My doc said it could be something as silly as Cole just holds his urine too long letting the lines back up  and there would be no blockage at all.

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ladyki
Message #15006 - 12/22/10 05:17 AM

Eternal - glad to know that baby Cole is doing fine.

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #15007 - 12/22/10 04:49 PM

Is anyone else working today?  The message boards all seem to be pretty slow........    work is too, and I just want to take a nap!

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KrisKringleGingleBells
Message #15008 - 12/22/10 05:05 PM

I'm working.    I can't wait to get out of here.  I have a half day tomorrow.  Then I work two days next week and I have a 5 day break before I start my new job.  I can't believe Christmas is in 3 days!!  I have so many gifts to wrap tonight.

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ElfQ1015
Message #15009 - 12/22/10 05:08 PM



I'm working but have zero motivation since tomorrow is the last day of the week, not a lot of time to get a ton of stuff done. I am fiddling with some samples right now because I have an idea that I want to test out. I'd like to get out early so I can stop by the daycare christmas party.


Tomorrow no one is going to be here but I don't have enough vacation time left to take a full day so I am going to work a half day, then I have to join the insane masses to get wrapping paper and a few photo frames.

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MuttleynFelix
Message #15010 - 12/22/10 05:10 PM

I'm here. Just actually working today. I have some things to actually do for once. I have Friday off and then Thursday and Friday of next week off (and the following Monday).  I have another half day to take off either this week or next week as well.  But I'm waiting to see if I actually kick this cold or not.

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #15011 - 12/22/10 05:23 PM

I have all of next week off, so my motivation level is pretty low at the moment.  I am thinking about taking my computer home & trying to work from home tomorrow, since very few people will be in the office. 

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regina24601
Message #15012 - 12/22/10 05:29 PM



I'm here too, and I have to work tomorrow and on Christmas Eve also.    I also have to work a full week next week.  I'm doing this because I can't travel anyway, so I may as well build some goodwill at work by volunteering to work all the crappy days.  Next year, though - I'm outta here for the holidays!!

It's super slow here, though, and it probably will be until the new year.  Boooooring. 

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red_wagon
Message #15013 - 12/22/10 05:58 PM

I'm here and bored out of my mind. Not many people in the office and I have zero work to do. But can I leave? No, of course not. Luckily I do have next week off, which will be glorious. Time for some serious financial planning for 2011!!

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jmrs318
Message #15014 - 12/22/10 06:52 PM

I'm at work today and it is soooo slow.  I have to stay late because I thought I'd pop out to finish up some shopping on my lunch break and it was crazy busy so I ended up taking a 2 hour lunch.  But I do get Friday off, that is my motivation to make it through the day!

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surf-n-sand
Message #15015 - 12/22/10 07:20 PM

Whoops.  This didn't post when I typed it a couple of hours ago...
Sam- I'm working.    I hear you on the nap.  Wouldn't mind taking one myself!  I shouldn't want one though since I slept for 11 hours last night.  Yay!
Well, it looks like I officially need to move up another cup size at 17 weeks.  I am thinking I will only buy one new bra for now because I'm sure more growth is coming.  So far the 5 pounds that I've gained seems to be a little bit of belly and more t & a.

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kjsh
Message #15016 - 12/22/10 07:24 PM



I'm working today too.  But I'm working from home (which actually is bumming me out a bit).  They've been rebuilding our fileroom at work and today they're using a glue to lay down carpet and pregnant women shouldn't be breathing the glue fumes - so I can't be at the office.  I do have some project work to finish up that I can easily work on from home, so that's not a problem.  I'm bummed though, because this afternoon I was going to go through and tidy my cubicle and delete a ton out of my email inbox - neither of which I can easily do from home.  The rumor is that they're supposed to be using the glue again tomorrow, which is scheduled to be my last day in the office.  I'm hoping they can hold off and do some other things at least for the first hour or two of the day so I can slip in and get everything set for being out.  Otherwise I'm going to have to come in on Christmas Eve when the city is closed to get my last minute things done.

In other news, my work friend (who is due two weeks after me) has her induction scheduled for next Wednesday (for health reasons they want her to deliver a bit early).  It will be so ironic if she ends up having her baby before I have mine.

Well, happy Wednesday to all!

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regina24601
Message #15017 - 12/22/10 07:37 PM

they're using a glue to lay down carpet and pregnant women shouldn't be breathing the glue fumes

kjsh - You should come in tomorrow with one of those obnoxious EPA Haz-Mat suits, complete with helmet and oxygen tank.    I know what you mean about tying up loose ends.  I've started keeping my email box archived daily and other (read: non-work related) emails deleted so I don't have to worry about it if I go into labor.  It definitely feels good to get your work space in order so you don't have to be worried about it if you have to rush to the hospital.  Hopefully you can get in the building to get everything squared away tomorrow!

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #15018 - 12/22/10 07:48 PM

for health reasons they want her to deliver a bit early

Going to be a nice tax benefit too to claim the baby this year

Speaking of, Gusita - did Brett get the message that he's supposed to come on New Year's Eve??? 

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PalmettoLady
Message #15019 - 12/22/10 08:52 PM



I'm here, but I'm at work and we are BUSY! Today's the last full day, tomorrow we "work" until around 11:00 when we have our office Christmas party, it's good food: Steamed Oysters, Low Country Boil (Shrimp, Corn, Potatoes and Sausage) and I'm making Hot Wings too. Along with cookies and chips and dips, etc. MMM. Then we head home and we are closed on Friday.

 

Eternal: Don't worry, I'm not overly worried. I think I will just wait and see about getting another ultrasound down the road, but, I trust my Dr and I'm sure if it was something she felt was serious she'd persue it. I've been at the same proactive since I was 16 so I feel like they are looking out for me (us).

 

On another note, DH is driving me insane lately.  He works retail and is a supervisor so obviously this is their very busy time and he is stressed out and all. BUT, he's driving me nuts! He keeps complaining that he's tired and isn't doing his regular things around home (mainly walking my VERY high strung dog-child) yet he doesn't come to bed earlier he stays up messing on the computer and watching TV, etc. So he hasn't walked the dog in like 3 days, I walk her but he takes her off leash and throws balls and stuff which I can't do BC the dog won't listen to me. And yesterday he says he will definitely do it today BC he doesn't go in until 10AM, yet I talked to him at lunch today and he says he didn't do it BC he slept in BC he was "so tired". I didn't say anything BC he was at work but I wanted to scream at him "I don't care if your tired! It's your stupid fault for not coming to bed earlier!" Grr. He better shape up quick once the holiday season is over and his work schedule chills out or I might flip out on him. Ok venting over.

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Momma x3-soon to be 4
Message #15020 - 12/22/10 10:57 PM

Ok, so I know I posted and then disappeared for a couple of days.  To answer a few questions, my girls' names are Elizabeth, Lucy & Mary.  No, we're not finding out this time either (we found out with Elizabeth (she's the oldest) but not the other two).  My DH is really hoping for a boy and is convinced we're having one.  When we had our US a couple of weeks ago, he was out of town.  I called him afterwards and was telling him about it.  The sonographer told me that if I wanted to know, to look closely at the screen (he had it in the right spot) but I told him I didn't care to know, so he moved it.  DH says it must be a boy because you can't tell if it's a girl.  He has conveniently  forgotten that we found out with #1 and she was a girl.  

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stuckinsand
Message #15021 - 12/23/10 07:12 AM

ladyki - my DD was born 8/17.  She got her first cold/cough yesterday.  It's so sad hearing her chest all congested.  We steam up the bathroom and it helps a little but only while she's in there!  No fever though so that's a plus.

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poohbiscit
Message #15023 - 12/23/10 01:35 PM

Just wanted to pop in and wish everyone a Merry Christmas. Enjoy the time with your little ones!!

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ladyki
Message #15024 - 12/23/10 02:24 PM



Good Morning everyone, well today I am very proud of myself. Ever since Kiani was born  ( 5 months agao) I have had to sleep with some time of light on. Either I leave a lamp, night light or the bathroom light on just to make sure there is a little bit of light in our bedroon ( she is had her bassinet in our room) so that I can constantly be watching her. I am a very bad sleeper so that light would make it ever worst. Well last night I finally got to courage to leave the room completely dark, lol, wohooo, I did it it. I was able to sleep without the light and was not constatly checking on Kiani. Hopefully that will help her sleep better too.

 

ladyki - my DD was born 8/17.  She got her first cold/cough yesterday.  It's so sad hearing her chest all congested.  We steam up the bathroom and it helps a little but only while she's in there!  No fever though so that's a plus.

stuckinsand- I hope your DD feels better soon. It is sad to see them sick. Kiani still has a stuffy nose, but the dr said she will probably have it on and off just because on the type of city that we live in. He said to keep on giving her the saline drops and using the humidifier.

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #15025 - 12/23/10 02:28 PM

Well, in happy family news - SIL found out the sexes of the quads!!

A - Caleb Sean (boy)
B - Abigail Rose (girl)
C - Elijah James (boy)
D - Elizabeth Grace (girl)

How perfect - 2 boys and 2 girls!  SIL's last checkup went great - the Drs told her to prepare to go on bedrest about a week ago.  At her last checkup, things are looking great & she might be able to make it well into January before starting bedrest!  The babies are at 19 weeks now and everyone is doing really well.  The Dr is actually hopeful that SIL will be able to carry them to 30 weeks - which would be AMAZING. 

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KrisKringleGingleBells
Message #15026 - 12/23/10 02:30 PM

That's great news Sam.  And I love the names.  Very nice!

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surf-n-sand
Message #15027 - 12/23/10 02:36 PM

That is fantastic news Sam!  What a nice present for your family this time of the year!  And the names are beautiful.

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regina24601
Message #15028 - 12/23/10 02:36 PM

Very exciting, Sam!  I hope her pregnancy continues to go well.  I wonder if the birth of quads will make the news around here?  I'll keep an eye out for it!  (but hopefully not for several more months!!)

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ladyki
Message #15029 - 12/23/10 02:38 PM

Sam- Congrats to your SIL. Keep us posted.

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GusitaRenkr
Message #15030 - 12/23/10 02:41 PM

Speaking of, Gusita - did Brett get the message that he's supposed to come on New Year's Eve???

LOL, Sam! I am trying to get the message through to baby Brett, but I'm not sure he's comprehending
I had a doctor's appointment this morning, and AGAIN gained 9 pounds in a week I have gained 18 pounds in 2 weeks. Blah.  My actual appointment went MUCH better though this week. The doctor sat down and talked to me for a good little bit about things and answered all my questions. I have an appointment 1/5 when I am 38 weeks 6 days, and we'll most likely schedule an induction at that appontment for either 1/6 (when I am 39 weeks) or 1/10 (39.5 weeks). My blood pressure was a little high today, but no protein in the urine, thankfully, so no pre-eclampsia! She said I'm 75 percent effaced, one centimeter dilated, and very thin.

I've been reading, but this week has been so busy and stressful, I haven't had a chance to write much. I am soooooo looking forward to Christmas and DH having 4 days off. I hope all you ladies are doing well!

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GusitaRenkr
Message #15031 - 12/23/10 02:44 PM

Sam-YAY, that's awesome!  I read the article you had posted on your blog about her and went to their website. She looks great in her 18 week picture she posted!

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jmrs318
Message #15032 - 12/23/10 02:45 PM

Sam - That is great! 

Palmetto - I feel your pain about DH and crazy dog.  Hopefully things will get better soon!  DH was the same about our dog when I was pregnant.  It was hard for him because I used to run daily with our dog and he played fetch.  I had to stop running with her when I got further along and when that stopped, she stopped listening to me completely so I couldn't play with her either.  She is a 65 lb lab mix and crazy hyperactive and has anxiety so she needs a lot of attention.  Luckily DH grew up and changed right before A was born and has been great about dog duties and sleeping at a decent time ever since.  It helps that we do joint wake ups at night with A.  We both work and she goes to sleep so early that we both jump at any chance to be awake with her.

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red_wagon
Message #15033 - 12/23/10 02:45 PM

Sam-how exciting! love the names!

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ElfQ1015
Message #15034 - 12/23/10 02:56 PM



Guista don't worry about the weight, I gained almost 20 more pounds right in the last two weeks as well.  So much for the OB having a hissy that I had only gained 15.

 

Most of it was apparently Gwen, the placenta and fluids because I dropped quite a bit of it really fast.  I think I lost 10 of it when I stood up for the first time after giving birth.

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #15035 - 12/23/10 03:02 PM

Regina - they made Channel 9 news a couple weeks ago, and they said they would do a follow-up story when the kiddos were born

If anyone else wants to check it out, here's their blog: theishumquads.com/.  The pic of 4 cribs in one room still gets me - I have no earthly idea how they all fit, but they just barely did!

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regina24601
Message #15036 - 12/23/10 03:07 PM

Wow, Gusita, that's awesome that you're progressing!  It's exciting to think your little one could be here in 2 weeks!!  I'm going to try to sweet talk my doctor into inducing on 12/31 for a variety of reasons, but I think I'd have to do more than talk sweetly since I'll just be 38.5 weeks at the time.    I'm just ready for her to be here, and I'm sure you're feeling the same way about Brett!!  Oh, and sorry about the weight gain, but it really sounds like it's all fluid and that you'll lose it when you deliver.  Still, not a fun number to see on the scale.

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GusitaRenker
Message #15037 - 12/23/10 03:08 PM

Guista don't worry about the weight, I gained almost 20 more pounds right in the last two weeks as well.  So much for the OB having a hissy that I had only gained 15.

Thanks Drama, that makes me feel better! I am WAY over what I had originally wanted/been told to gain, but short of cutting my legs and draining the fluid out (kind of like they do in Rocky with the swollen eyes, LOL!), I don't know what else to try. The doctor said to be prepared to either be peeing it out or sweating it out once I do give birth. I'm not sure which I'd prefer

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GusitaRenker
Message #15038 - 12/23/10 03:21 PM

Wow, Gusita, that's awesome that you're progressing!  It's exciting to think your little one could be here in 2 weeks!!  I'm going to try to sweet talk my doctor into inducing on 12/31 for a variety of reasons, but I think I'd have to do more than talk sweetly since I'll just be 38.5 weeks at the time.    I'm just ready for her to be here, and I'm sure you're feeling the same way about Brett!!  Oh, and sorry about the weight gain, but it really sounds like it's all fluid and that you'll lose it when you deliver.  Still, not a fun number to see on the scale!

On the one hand, it feels like two weeks is two YEARS away, but on the other hand, it feels like its thisclose! I keep trying to envision what he'll look like.  I think he'll have dark hair for some reason. Hehe, I'll keep my fingers crossed that baby LMSK and Brett BOTH decide to make a New Years Eve appearance! Surely they want to come in time to ring in the New Year!

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Sam814 - 11wks
Message #15039 - 12/23/10 03:25 PM

Regina & Gusita - now's the time to walk everywhere, stand on your heads, and tell those babies to hurry up   My poor sister was overdue with my niece in the middle of July a couple years ago.  She walked almost 12 miles and drank Castor oil to get that baby out!!!  Not sure if that's what did it, but the next day she went into labor.  I just remember being at my mom & dad's house, and making laps around the neighborhood with her. 

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regina24601
Message #15040 - 12/23/10 03:32 PM

now's the time to walk everywhere, stand on your heads, and tell those babies to hurry up

Oh, trust me, Sam - I am WALKING!!  Lots and lots!  DH is feeding me spicy foods until I can't handle it anymore, and he's even been putting on his game face and "stepping up to the plate" to try and get the kid out (at this point, it's totally utilitarian - we really can't enjoy it too much with this giant watermelon of a belly in the way.  )  He's a trouper, though, and he acts like he's happy to do it!

I'm putting off the castor oil , but I've heard it can definitely work!  Of course, when it comes down to it, she's going to come when she wants to, and if that's a week after her due date, then I guess I'll have to be okay with that.  I just don't like the idea of this kid calling the shots so early in life!! 

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GusitaRenkr
Message #15041 - 12/23/10 03:45 PM

Regina & Gusita - now's the time to walk everywhere, stand on your heads, and tell those babies to hurry up   My poor sister was overdue with my niece in the middle of July a couple years ago.  She walked almost 12 miles and drank Castor oil to get that baby out!!!  Not sure if that's what did it, but the next day she went into labor.  I just remember being at my mom & dad's house, and making laps around the neighborhood with her. 

Hehe, I am bouncing on my exercise ball as we speak (well, type!). The doctor said it was good for helping open the pelvis up. I have been doing Zumba fitness on the Playstation 3 too (an early Christmas gift from my MIL). I keep telling DH that I am going to shake baby Brett out

Oh, trust me, Sam - I am WALKING!!  Lots and lots!  DH is feeding me spicy foods until I can't handle it anymore, and he's even been putting on his game face and "stepping up to the plate" to try and get the kid out (at this point, it's totally utilitarian - we really can't enjoy it too much with this giant watermelon of a belly in the way.  )  He's a trouper, though, and he acts like he's happy to do it!

LOL Regina! I have this image now of two people 'trying to get the baby out' in the most businesslike way possible.

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jmrs318
Message #15042 - 12/23/10 03:46 PM

Good luck Guista and Regina!

Guista - I gained 36lbs total, most of that in the last few weeks.  I was overweight to begin with and was recommended to gain 15-25 lbs.  I kept telling the dr and nurses at the end that it was water weight and they said "that is what they all say".  I was swelling so much that I got stretch marks on my lower legs!  I lost 30 lbs in the first 2 weeks, mostly through peeing.  I thought I would sweat it out because A was born on July 23 and it was a HOT summer, and I am freakishly hot natured, but that wasn't the case   Good luck again!

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MuttleynFelix
Message #15043 - 12/23/10 03:47 PM



Guista - Make sure to drink pleanty of water.  The more you drink, the less you retain. 

Induction isn't fun gals.  First time mom's who are induced have nearly a 40% c-section rate.  I was right where you are last year. I was due Jan 10th and ended up being induced Jan 20th (at night, DS was born the 21st).  There are a lot of reasons you want that baby to keep cooking at as long as possible.  DH and I joked that DS just was super smart in utero since his due date it was -10F on that morning. I was so glad I was not taking a baby home that day. Then our waterline broke the next morning. I was so glad we did not have a baby in the house yet.  The day we brought DS home it was 45F and raining.  A huge improvement over -10.

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regina24601
Message #15044 - 12/23/10 04:06 PM

First time mom's who are induced have nearly a 40% c-section rate.

Oh, Mutt - clogging up our discussion with "facts."    Just kidding - I know my doctor won't induce me early just because it works for my timeline.  I'm just hopeful that I go into labor on my own - which is very unlikely if genetics have anything to do with it (between my mom and my sisters - 7 births total - NOT ONE BIRTH began spontaneously.  They all were induced at 41 weeks or later.  No c-sections, either, but we were all GINORMOUS babies, which isn't shocking considering how long we all baked.)  So while I'm gearing up to be pregnant for another 4 weeks, it's a much nicer thought to imagine spontaneous labor between 39 and 40 weeks.

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MuttleynFelix
Message #15045 - 12/23/10 04:35 PM

You never know Regina. My mom and sister never went passed 39 weeks and DS baked until he was evicted at 41.5.   You never know what you are going to get.  You should look up Bishop score if you think you might need an induction. 

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eternal sunshine - 29wks
Message #15046 - 12/23/10 04:44 PM



I am so excited to hear your birth stories!

 

I am starting to get that sinking, OMG this is real feeling about having Cole now. I'm 12 weeks from my due date today. I can't believe that in less than 3 months I'll be right where you ladies are, wondering if today is the day. At 20 weeks it seemed so far away. Now that it is almost 2011 it feels scary real.

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GusitaRenkr
Message #15047 - 12/23/10 04:53 PM

Guista - Make sure to drink pleanty of water.  The more you drink, the less you retain. 

Induction isn't fun gals.  First time mom's who are induced have nearly a 40% c-section rate.  I was right where you are last year. I was due Jan 10th and ended up being induced Jan 20th (at night, DS was born the 21st).  There are a lot of reasons you want that baby to keep cooking at as long as possible.  DH and I joked that DS just was super smart in utero since his due date it was -10F on that morning. I was so glad I was not taking a baby home that day. Then our waterline broke the next morning. I was so glad we did not have a baby in the house yet.  The day we brought DS home it was 45F and raining.  A huge improvement over -10.

Thanks Mutt! I'm drinking 80-100 ounces a day, in addition to 2 glasses of skim milk, a glass of diet V8 splash, and a glass of decaf sweet tea. It just doesn't seem to help, but then again, if I weren't drinking that much, it would probably be worse. The doctor mentioned eating more protein and less carbs to help with the swelling. Have any of you gotten that advice?
Also, something I think is so weird is that my right foot, ankle, calf, and hand are all swollen so much more than my left foot, ankle, calf, and hand.

Even though I don't have any pre-eclampsia signs, the doctor said she would be more comfortable if I had the baby sooner rather than later. Also, there has been some confusion on my due date. It started out as 1/7, then got moved to 1/13, but they talked about moving it back to 1/7, but never did.
My mom did had pre-eclampsia with me and had to have a c-section because I was breech and they couldn't turn me. I was a stubborn little thing (well, if you call almost 9 pounds little!)

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alpha_yankee
Message #15048 - 12/23/10 04:53 PM

I had an ideal induction with DS#1.  He was 39 weeks and the doctor wanted to do it because he was measuring on the large side.  I had GD, which can cause babies to have wide shoulders, and can lead to broken collarbones during birth.  I never dilated or progressed in the two weeks leading up to the induction.  They walked me through the process, so I would know what to expect.  We were admitted around midnight.  As soon as I was settled into the room, they inserted the cervidil and gave me ambien to help me sleep.  By 7 am, I was in labor, so we never had to use pitocin.  At 10:00, I started to push, and DS was born at 10:50. 

Whenever anyone tells me they are going to be induced, I pray it will be as easy as mine was. 

However, I went into it prepared to do whatever was necessary to get him out and make sure we were both okay.  Prior to the induction, my doctor and I spoke about the risks and I understood that I was increasing my chances of having a c-section.  But I trusted my doctor.  Based on his experience, the size of my baby, and my general good health, we both felt comfortable that induction was the way to go and the risks were higher if we let him cook longer.  My doctor told me after DS was born that he probably would have been over 11 pounds if we had gone full term or longer.  As it was, he was nearly 10 pounds at 38 wks, 6 days.