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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 16, 2019 23:34:33 GMT -5
Kadee, it Trump is so dumb, how comes he has not lost all of his Daddy money? Maybe he has. He certainly doesn't want anyone to see his tax returns. What is he hiding?
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Post by OldCoyote on Oct 16, 2019 23:39:57 GMT -5
So, what are you going to do when,,1. Trump does not get impeached, annnnd 2. is re elected as President?
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Post by OldCoyote on Oct 16, 2019 23:43:21 GMT -5
Spent the morning with my extreme liberal friend,
He is really concerned that Trump is going to get re elected again,, I said , the problem is you don't have any good candidates to oppose Trump,
He agreed!
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Post by dondub on Oct 17, 2019 0:22:42 GMT -5
Kadee, it Trump is so dumb, how comes he has not lost all of his Daddy money? . In that one timeframe he lost $1billion which is way more that daddy gave him. Not sure if that was part of his 6 bancos or not.😎 Plus, without his tax returns, who knows how much more. You don’t think we need to see those do you?
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 17, 2019 8:17:23 GMT -5
Evidently you do not watch too many of Trump's speeches on Executive orders He sometimes reads from a paper but always talks in that monotone voice...........Not a polished speaker.......even makes BushII sound like a linguist specialist. The Presidential debates drove me crazy with his talks and replys to opponents. Not a polished speaker and I would think he flunked all speech and debate classes he ever took. From what I've seen...that's not all he flunked. As one of his professors said, "Dumbest damn student I've ever had!" LOL, I throw you a crumb (of truth) talking about Trump and you have to pile on
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 17, 2019 8:20:42 GMT -5
It is hilarious how liberals here had their hair on fire when Bolton joined the WH, and now he is a stand up guy and is your hero.
What is the chance he is just pissed Trump stopped listening to him and he lost his ability to have Trump's ear promoting HIS strategy?
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Post by swamp on Oct 17, 2019 8:30:18 GMT -5
It is hilarious how liberals here had their hair on fire when Bolton joined the WH, and now he is a stand up guy and is your hero. What is the chance he is just pissed Trump stopped listening to him and he lost his ability to have Trump's ear promoting HIS strategy? Bolton is not a hero, but I do appreciate his candor.
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Post by tbop77 on Oct 17, 2019 8:41:51 GMT -5
It is hilarious how liberals here had their hair on fire when Bolton joined the WH, and now he is a stand up guy and is your hero. What is the chance he is just pissed Trump stopped listening to him and he lost his ability to have Trump's ear promoting HIS strategy? One of the reasons he is believable is the pattern of President Trump. When did he ever listen to anyone? If they didn't do what he wants, they are gone.....in the words of Rex Tillerson:
"So often, the President would say here's what I want to do and here's how I want to do it and I would have to say to him, Mr. President I understand what you want to do but you can't do it that way. It violates the law." www.cnn.com/2018/12/07/politics/donald-trump-rex-tillerson/index.html
It's hilarious how someone like President Trump is Republicans stand up guy and hero.
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Post by dezii on Oct 17, 2019 9:07:58 GMT -5
So, what are you going to do when,,1. Trump does not get impeached, annnnd 2. is re elected as President?
If it happens and it may...then the country by reelecting him has signed it's death sentence as a great, great power..... If u can honestly say u feel this man is good for our country then I pity you.. His pre Presidential history and his history as POTUS shows that this office is to much for him and to actually run a country of our size and strength...Amatures are not the answer..possible the professionals with all their faults..the politicians and the swamp is needed...It has been proven that amatures are not up to the task. Lets face it...there is a life to empires...possible it takes just a short time with poor leadership before a Empire falls...Not all reach the length of the Roman Empire , See Germany, the thousand year Reich lasted just 12 years..Great Britain had a long run...but after about 300 years the empire is gone, with possible Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland soon to also leave..The Soviet Union about 65 years...China has had many kingdoms...but eventually they too fell...Possible it is our time...If so, I put a lot of blame to the present POTUS.. You may not feel that way.....but u would be wrong.
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Post by oped on Oct 17, 2019 9:11:59 GMT -5
Bolton is still an ass. He was trying to save himself, and I'm still not sure if was in an effort to stop trump or just distance himself. After all, Bolton told Hill to talk to Eisenberg and it was Eisenberg who decided to try to classify the phone call so that it was hidden.
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Post by oped on Oct 17, 2019 9:12:51 GMT -5
So, what are you going to do when,,1. Trump does not get impeached, annnnd 2. is re elected as President?
I'll survive the end of the republic. Will you?
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 17, 2019 9:21:23 GMT -5
This is a man who can't figure out how to close an umbrella. This is man who makes up the names of countries. This is a man who didn't know that Israel is in the Middle East. This is a man who is convinced you need to show ID when you buy groceries. This is a man who thinks wind causes cancer. This is man who thinks the violent Montenegrans will start WWIII. He's a dumbass. Always has been, always will be. I saw it on fb, so can't verify, but Trump had a White House presser with President Mattarella of Italy. Supposedly he told him that the US and Italy have been friends since Roman times, and called him President Mozzarella several times. President Mozzarella. DW was wondering why I was giggling like a damn fool. So that's why the White House Italian translator made this face yesterday between trump and President Mattarella:
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 17, 2019 9:30:30 GMT -5
Spent the morning with my extreme liberal friend,
He is really concerned that Trump is going to get re elected again,, I said , the problem is you don't have any good candidates to oppose Trump,
He agreed!
I am not following how the top four or 5 Democrats are "not good".
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 17, 2019 9:33:29 GMT -5
I saw it on fb, so can't verify, but Trump had a White House presser with President Mattarella of Italy. Supposedly he told him that the US and Italy have been friends since Roman times, and called him President Mozzarella several times. President Mozzarella. DW was wondering why I was giggling like a damn fool. So that's why the White House Italian translator made this face yesterday between trump and President Mattarella: WTF?
Does he think America has existed since the year 0 BC, and there was air transport and phone lines across the Atlanta so we could all be chums? Or does he think 'Roman times' means the first time Trump visited Rome?
And has he forgotten about WWII entirely, or does he remember it as everyone, including the Italians and Japanese, piling on the Germans?
Sometimes, his layers of stupidity are hard to navigate.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 17, 2019 9:34:58 GMT -5
So, what are you going to do when,,1. Trump does not get impeached, annnnd 2. is re elected as President?
move to Europe.
of course, I am going to move to Europe if he is defeated, too.
what are you going to do? a little happy dance?
I am going to do a little "I don't give a fuck" dance.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 17, 2019 9:36:34 GMT -5
It is hilarious how liberals here had their hair on fire when Bolton joined the WH, and now he is a stand up guy and is your hero. What is the chance he is just pissed Trump stopped listening to him and he lost his ability to have Trump's ear promoting HIS strategy? Can you quote anyone on this board who says Bolton is now a hero?
I know I commented that I think Bolton is a war monger, but I was pleased to see at least one GOPer who believed in the constitution and ethics. I wouldn't classify that as calling him a 'hero' because I think a firm support of the constitution and high ethical standards should be the bare minimum requirement to be a politician.
Sadly, that's often not the case, especially for the current crop of GOPers who are following Trump like lemmings off the ethical cliff.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 17, 2019 9:43:37 GMT -5
It is hilarious how liberals here had their hair on fire when Bolton joined the WH, and now he is a stand up guy and is your hero. What is the chance he is just pissed Trump stopped listening to him and he lost his ability to have Trump's ear promoting HIS strategy? I have considered Bolton a loathsome shitsack since he was UN ambassador.
I still consider him a loathsome shitsack.
which is why I find it HILARIOUS that he is attacking someone else I find a loathsome shitsack.
there is nothing heroic about Bolton. nothing. but watching him turn on Trump is hilarious.
edit: I take that back. his furry upper lip is pretty heroic.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Oct 17, 2019 10:26:12 GMT -5
Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, broke sharply from President Donald Trump on Thursday, telling House impeachment investigators that he opposed the president’s request to run Ukraine policy through his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani.
“We were also disappointed by the president’s direction that we involve Mr. Giuliani,” Sondland told congressional investigators, according to his opening statement, which was obtained by POLITICO.
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Post by swamp on Oct 17, 2019 10:46:04 GMT -5
Sondland is a perfect example of, "be careful what you wish for, you might get it."
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 17, 2019 11:25:31 GMT -5
Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, broke sharply from President Donald Trump on Thursday, telling House impeachment investigators that he opposed the president’s request to run Ukraine policy through his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani.
“We were also disappointed by the president’s direction that we involve Mr. Giuliani,” Sondland told congressional investigators, according to his opening statement, which was obtained by POLITICO.
So clearly Trump put his private attorney in charge of diplomatic relations with Ukraine, bypassing all the professional, seasoned State department employees (causing some of them to quit in disgust, and railroading the US Ambassador, a 30 year veteran, out of office because she wouldn't play ball with Trump's mission to find shit he could use against a political opponent). We have plenty of State department people testifying (against Trump's orders not to testify) about what happened, so this can't be passed off as some singular disgruntled, biased, loony Dem.
I'm having trouble figuring out how the Trumpettes are going to be able to continue to pretend this is no big deal, or a fairy story concocted by the deep black hat state. This is not some 'attack' on Trump - he did this by himself, to himself, using his hand picked minions, and he did it in front of a bunch of flabbergasted State department veterans.
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Post by swamp on Oct 17, 2019 11:28:49 GMT -5
Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, broke sharply from President Donald Trump on Thursday, telling House impeachment investigators that he opposed the president’s request to run Ukraine policy through his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani.
“We were also disappointed by the president’s direction that we involve Mr. Giuliani,” Sondland told congressional investigators, according to his opening statement, which was obtained by POLITICO.
So clearly Trump put his private attorney in charge of diplomatic relations with Ukraine, bypassing all the professional, seasoned State department employees (causing some of them to quit in disgust, and railroading the US Ambassador, a 30 year veteran, out of office because she wouldn't play ball with Trump's mission to find shit he could use against a political opponent). We have plenty of State department people testifying (against Trump's orders not to testify) about what happened, so this can't be passed off as some singular disgruntled, biased, loony Dem.
I'm having trouble figuring out how the Trumpettes are going to be able to continue to pretend this is no big deal, or a fairy story concocted by the deep black hat state. This is not some 'attack' on Trump - he did this by himself, to himself, using his hand picked minions, and he did it in front of a bunch of flabbergasted State department veterans.
they are all part of the deep state that has mobilized against Trump.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 17, 2019 12:05:43 GMT -5
This is a man who can't figure out how to close an umbrella. This is man who makes up the names of countries. This is a man who didn't know that Israel is in the Middle East. This is a man who is convinced you need to show ID when you buy groceries. This is a man who thinks wind causes cancer. This is man who thinks the violent Montenegrans will start WWIII. He's a dumbass. Always has been, always will be. I saw it on fb, so can't verify, but Trump had a White House presser with President Mattarella of Italy. Supposedly he told him that the US and Italy have been friends since Roman times, and called him President Mozzarella several times. President Mozzarella. DW was wondering why I was giggling like a damn fool. 'The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to ancient Rome,' Trump said. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7581913/Social-media-lights-Italian-translators-reaction-Donald-Trump.htmlWow! I had no idea that the USA was founded thousands of years ago. You learn something new every day. Dumbass.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 17, 2019 12:24:40 GMT -5
So, what are you going to do when,,1. Trump does not get impeached, annnnd 2. is re elected as President?
Laugh as that dumbass, Trump, pounds in the final nail into America's coffin.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 17, 2019 12:30:50 GMT -5
So, what are you going to do when,,1. Trump does not get impeached, annnnd 2. is re elected as President?
Laugh as that dumbass, Trump, pounds in the final nail into America's coffin. I look forward to the outraged shock and horror of the Trumpettes when they witness Trump cast aside his pretense at being a hero to the middle class and starts ramming through executive orders that cater to the 1% at the expense of his former minions.
Consider the damage Trump can do once he no longer has to give a shit about even the 38% of the voting base that supports him. Oh, all the Trumpette tears and gnashing of teeth....
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 17, 2019 13:00:21 GMT -5
We watched as US citizens would wring their hands on seeing Middle Easterners chant "Death to America!" Then you elected the one man who would cement it. A man who runs the country on greed, spite and ignorance. You've gone from being a respected country, the envy of the world, to a country which is mocked, ridiculed and pitied. Nicely done! And it didn't take long.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Oct 17, 2019 13:58:25 GMT -5
WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House is acknowledging that President Donald Trump asked Ukraine’s leader to investigate his country’s role in meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential campaign.
Acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said Thursday that Trump held up military assistance to Ukraine in part because of concern about corruption in that country. He said they also wanted Ukraine’s cooperation in investigating whether Democratic National Committee’s email servers were in Ukraine. They also were looking at levels of assistance European nations were providing to Ukraine, he said.
Mulvaney denies there was a quid pro quo and says “we do that all the time with foreign policy.”
He pointed to the example of the administration holding up aid to Central American countries to force them to change their policies on immigration.
Trump ultimately released nearly $400 million in military and other aid to Ukraine
That's the whole article from AP.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 17, 2019 16:13:29 GMT -5
WTF?
Does he think America has existed since the year 0 BC, and there was air transport and phone lines across the Atlanta so we could all be chums? Or does he think 'Roman times' means the first time Trump visited Rome?
And has he forgotten about WWII entirely, or does he remember it as everyone, including the Italians and Japanese, piling on the Germans?
Sometimes, his layers of stupidity are hard to navigate.
Why, yes!
Don't you remember reading in the history books that the USA helped the Roman Empire build Hadrian's Wall in the year 122 AD? It was to keep the rapists and drug dealers out.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 17, 2019 16:13:55 GMT -5
The colour of abject ignorance is orange.
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Post by dondub on Oct 17, 2019 16:57:45 GMT -5
I remember that famous painting of Washington crossing the Rubicon after he and the troops flew in to Italy.
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