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Post by Gardening Grandma on May 31, 2019 19:09:21 GMT -5
Actually I HAVE travelled quite a bit and have found most countries like most Americans, even though they think our current “leader” is a POS Now, they don’t like assholes, so if you go abroad and act like one, you’ll get the impression you aren’t liked. Which is surprising considering you travel also, impressions and all. Of course travelling as a tourist vs a business man gives a different perspective. They want you to come back for your $$. What they think of you is hidden. You don’t know how or why I travelled. You know nothing yet you make assumptions. Fact is, I’ve lived abroad for a number of years.
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Post by ednkris on May 31, 2019 21:34:06 GMT -5
no that is what you want to think. We don't make mountain out of mole hills. See something that is not there ie raping a 13 yr old. Bankruptcy that is part of restructuring a business all legal. As far as morality cheating that I don't care i gave Clinton a pass that is none of my concern Feel sorry for u and the raping of a 13 year old...yes a pro, and yes it took place..but still , and three times no less and now is the POTUS doesn't concern u..? You have no woman in your life, wife, daughter, nieces.....Mother? Misleading, not paying sub contractors, many who can't afford not to get paid...need to pay their workers...have no deep pockets to fall back on...and done by him because he can get away with it...has attorneys on his payroll...those he stiffs have to go out and hire...thus even if they win, they lose...and that is legitimate business practices to u..? For what ? Save a few bucks that mean nothing to him...just because? Even now after three years...successes he bosted about....N. Korea...not happening...Disliked around the world by long time allies...Tariffs that seem to be costing us more then them...health care not taken care of...going through top staff like a hot knife through butter and on and on...failure....and he is still your man? Reminds me of those fanatics of Adolf's in the last days of that war hanging on till the last...for what? As I said....feel for ya. i asked before for proof of rape and all i got was reports of he said she said sorry that don't cut it... as far as not paying contractors if they didn't do the correct job or poor workmanship don't pay them and sue the hell out of them. What would you do if you paid 10k for a new roof that leak and they wouldn't fix it. Allies what allies oh you mean the ones that obama sucked ass to they already think we are shit. At least now they know we will screw them to a wall if they mess with us. Tariff's hell make it 75 percent we should only buy american anyway
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Post by tbop77 on Jun 1, 2019 6:21:14 GMT -5
Feel sorry for u and the raping of a 13 year old...yes a pro, and yes it took place..but still , and three times no less and now is the POTUS doesn't concern u..? You have no woman in your life, wife, daughter, nieces.....Mother? Misleading, not paying sub contractors, many who can't afford not to get paid...need to pay their workers...have no deep pockets to fall back on...and done by him because he can get away with it...has attorneys on his payroll...those he stiffs have to go out and hire...thus even if they win, they lose...and that is legitimate business practices to u..? For what ? Save a few bucks that mean nothing to him...just because? Even now after three years...successes he bosted about....N. Korea...not happening...Disliked around the world by long time allies...Tariffs that seem to be costing us more then them...health care not taken care of...going through top staff like a hot knife through butter and on and on...failure....and he is still your man? Reminds me of those fanatics of Adolf's in the last days of that war hanging on till the last...for what? As I said....feel for ya. i asked before for proof of rape and all i got was reports of he said she said sorry that don't cut it... as far as not paying contractors if they didn't do the correct job or poor workmanship don't pay them and sue the hell out of them. What would you do if you paid 10k for a new roof that leak and they wouldn't fix it. Allies what allies oh you mean the ones that obama sucked ass to they already think we are shit. At least now they know we will screw them to a wall if they mess with us. Tariff's hell make it 75 percent we should only buy american anyway Heck yeah, by God, we're MERICA!!!
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Post by dezii on Jun 1, 2019 8:54:12 GMT -5
May 29, 2019 at 11:24am happyhoix said: I did not 'bring up the women.' Followed by my post showing; Quote; There are some single issue Pro-Choice voters who will come out and vote against Trump and the GOP simply due to the current threat they perceive against women.ymam.proboards.com/post/3005079Now you want to explain what? About women ? About men ? Speed boats ? Peeling oranges ? Nope, little x, you have fun doing what you do best. Internet trolling? …..
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Post by dezii on Jun 1, 2019 9:04:08 GMT -5
Feel sorry for u and the raping of a 13 year old...yes a pro, and yes it took place..but still , and three times no less and now is the POTUS doesn't concern u..? You have no woman in your life, wife, daughter, nieces.....Mother? Misleading, not paying sub contractors, many who can't afford not to get paid...need to pay their workers...have no deep pockets to fall back on...and done by him because he can get away with it...has attorneys on his payroll...those he stiffs have to go out and hire...thus even if they win, they lose...and that is legitimate business practices to u..? For what ? Save a few bucks that mean nothing to him...just because? Even now after three years...successes he bosted about....N. Korea...not happening...Disliked around the world by long time allies...Tariffs that seem to be costing us more then them...health care not taken care of...going through top staff like a hot knife through butter and on and on...failure....and he is still your man? Reminds me of those fanatics of Adolf's in the last days of that war hanging on till the last...for what? As I said....feel for ya. i asked before for proof of rape and all i got was reports of he said she said sorry that don't cut it... as far as not paying contractors if they didn't do the correct job or poor workmanship don't pay them and sue the hell out of them. What would you do if you paid 10k for a new roof that leak and they wouldn't fix it. Allies what allies oh you mean the ones that obama sucked ass to they already think we are shit. At least now they know we will screw them to a wall if they mess with us. Tariff's hell make it 75 percent we should only buy american anyway oh hr raped the girl all right...I know it, you know it, he knows it....also that u don't care ….we all know that too...your posts here have made it very clear where u are coming from...all know that too Seems a lot of subs doing shoddy work....do u really believe that.... There seems to be a word, Diplomacy...means not publicly calling best friends who support your ideals crap heads and thieves...untrustworthy...and because u are the strongest and biggest the right to dictate to them...thats called being a bully. Just saying....
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 1, 2019 13:38:30 GMT -5
no that is what you want to think. We don't make mountain out of mole hills. See something that is not there ie raping a 13 yr old. Bankruptcy that is part of restructuring a business all legal. As far as morality cheating that I don't care i gave Clinton a pass that is none of my concern You are being fed strawmen and red herrings to distract you from the truths of reality... which you refuse to even look at or acknowledge. that's a heavy accusation.
I would like ed to address it.
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Post by steff on Jun 1, 2019 15:41:10 GMT -5
Feel sorry for u and the raping of a 13 year old...yes a pro, and yes it took place..but still , and three times no less and now is the POTUS doesn't concern u..? You have no woman in your life, wife, daughter, nieces.....Mother? Misleading, not paying sub contractors, many who can't afford not to get paid...need to pay their workers...have no deep pockets to fall back on...and done by him because he can get away with it...has attorneys on his payroll...those he stiffs have to go out and hire...thus even if they win, they lose...and that is legitimate business practices to u..? For what ? Save a few bucks that mean nothing to him...just because? Even now after three years...successes he bosted about....N. Korea...not happening...Disliked around the world by long time allies...Tariffs that seem to be costing us more then them...health care not taken care of...going through top staff like a hot knife through butter and on and on...failure....and he is still your man? Reminds me of those fanatics of Adolf's in the last days of that war hanging on till the last...for what? As I said....feel for ya. i asked before for proof of rape and all i got was reports of he said she said sorry that don't cut it... as far as not paying contractors if they didn't do the correct job or poor workmanship don't pay them and sue the hell out of them. What would you do if you paid 10k for a new roof that leak and they wouldn't fix it. Allies what allies oh you mean the ones that obama sucked ass to they already think we are shit. At least now they know we will screw them to a wall if they mess with us. Tariff's hell make it 75 percent we should only buy american anywayGonna be really hungry then as 69% of fresh veggies & fruits consumed in the US come from Mexico.
93% of avocados come from Mexico 71% of tomatoes come from Mexico What about "American" businesses that are actually owned by Mexico? Sara Lee, Earthgrains, Arnold's, Entenmanns, Thomas bakeries. That's just 1 food production industry. A Mexican company owns the largest bread company in Texas/Southwest. Same company owns one of the largest frozen dessert producers in the US. Same company owns multiple bread brands/production facilities. Still sure that only buying American is what you are doing? Unless you are buying a local bakery's daily bread, there is only 3 or 4 large bread producers in the country and 1 of those is a Mexican company that owns MULTIPLE American brands. hell, Groupo Bimbo was one of the only companies that bid for Hostess when it was going under. A Mexican company trying to save an American "tradition/food".
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Post by ednkris on Jun 1, 2019 20:18:30 GMT -5
You are being fed strawmen and red herrings to distract you from the truths of reality... which you refuse to even look at or acknowledge. that's a heavy accusation.
I would like ed to address it.
again show me proof i mean real proof on the rape. Was he indicted? NO....was he arrested? NO....is he rich and people will say and do crazy shit to get paid off? Yes... as far as the bankruptcy very common to restructure i known several business men who done it. Not paying contractors for shoddy work done that my self and won in court. So maybe you the red red herring is fed to OPED.... The Trump haters should try removing their blinders
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Post by dezii on Jun 2, 2019 7:34:26 GMT -5
that's a heavy accusation.
I would like ed to address it.
again show me proof i mean real proof on the rape. Was he indicted? NO....was he arrested? NO....is he rich and people will say and do crazy shit to get paid off? Yes... as far as the bankruptcy very common to restructure i known several business men who done it. Not paying contractors for shoddy work done that my self and won in court. So maybe you the red red herring is fed to OPED.... The Trump haters should try removing their blinders He and his buddy traveled to the Island for the sex games...Possible Clinton too and yes he did rape the girl...there was a witness , another Pro...charges were brought forth on him twice but this was a illegal act...prostitution...johns don't go to jail...Prostitutes do especially if have to use public defenders..and it's a young 13 year old against a billionaire ...who just recently was proven to have paid off another prostitute to the tune of $160,00...thats the mans history...His backers say one shouldn't trust what his old attorney says since he is now in prison...same thing here...man is proven to pay off to save embarressing or doing illegal things...past history does mean something even if u want to dismiss it as nothing...just the Donald being Donald. Same with stiffing sub contractors...it's part of what he does... because he knows in most cases he gets away with it and if he does lose , he's just paying what he would have paid anyway. Nothing to do with Trump haters...man is who he is...u know it, I know it...he knows it and man has no shame...It seems u too have no shame.....Shame on u.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 7:57:02 GMT -5
May 29, 2019 at 11:24am happyhoix said: I did not 'bring up the women.' Followed by my post showing your previous day post. Quote; There are some single issue Pro-Choice voters who will come out and vote against Trump and the GOP simply due to the current threat they perceive against women.ymam.proboards.com/post/3005079Now you want to explain what? About women ? About men ? Speed boats ? Peeling oranges ? Nope, little x, you have fun doing what you do best. Yep, pointing out the attempt at another hoax, by those who swill the liberal media koolaid. It's a thread about Trump, and lying. I see the lying part of the posting. My point is made over and over. 'Everyone lies.'
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 8:02:12 GMT -5
Which is surprising considering you travel also, impressions and all. Of course travelling as a tourist vs a business man gives a different perspective. They want you to come back for your $$. What they think of you is hidden. You don’t know how or why I travelled. You know nothing yet you make assumptions. Fact is, I’ve lived abroad for a number of years. You change your stories, or just giving partial stories at times. I was merely pointing out the difference in travelers. What makes you think I was talking about you ? It really fits on this thread. People even lie to themselves. Everyone lies.I As an aside, do you think you received the same treatment as someone living there, vs a general perception of a large foreign country ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 8:17:53 GMT -5
i asked before for proof of rape and all i got was reports of he said she said sorry that don't cut it... as far as not paying contractors if they didn't do the correct job or poor workmanship don't pay them and sue the hell out of them. What would you do if you paid 10k for a new roof that leak and they wouldn't fix it. Allies what allies oh you mean the ones that obama sucked ass to they already think we are shit. At least now they know we will screw them to a wall if they mess with us. Tariff's hell make it 75 percent we should only buy american anywayGonna be really hungry then as 69% of fresh veggies & fruits consumed in the US come from Mexico.
93% of avocados come from Mexico 71% of tomatoes come from Mexico What about "American" businesses that are actually owned by Mexico? Sara Lee, Earthgrains, Arnold's, Entenmanns, Thomas bakeries. That's just 1 food production industry. A Mexican company owns the largest bread company in Texas/Southwest. Same company owns one of the largest frozen dessert producers in the US. Same company owns multiple bread brands/production facilities. Still sure that only buying American is what you are doing? Unless you are buying a local bakery's daily bread, there is only 3 or 4 large bread producers in the country and 1 of those is a Mexican company that owns MULTIPLE American brands. hell, Groupo Bimbo was one of the only companies that bid for Hostess when it was going under. A Mexican company trying to save an American "tradition/food".
For a slight short term commodity prices difference, they'll come from somewhere else. Maybe even from within the US. Once the production is up to speed, the price will drop with the economy of scale. Going by the increasing rate of overweight in this country, we can use a little short term 'hungry'.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 2, 2019 11:35:41 GMT -5
“A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. For the traitor appears not a traitor - he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation - he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city - he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. -Cicero, Roman Statesman 42 BC
Still true today, and it applies.
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Post by dezii on Jun 2, 2019 13:38:14 GMT -5
Nope, little x, you have fun doing what you do best. Yep, pointing out the attempt at another hoax, by those who swill the liberal media koolaid. It's a thread about Trump, and lying. I see the lying part of the posting. My point is made over and over. 'Everyone lies.' I don't...I know Tenn doesn't either....mmhmm too and DJ...as well as others here too..Moon for example...however . Believe u have admitted u do so we'll let it stay there but don't assume all do what u admitted u do...especially on a site like this, silly to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 9:01:20 GMT -5
Yep, pointing out the attempt at another hoax, by those who swill the liberal media koolaid. It's a thread about Trump, and lying. I see the lying part of the posting. My point is made over and over. 'Everyone lies.' I don't...I know Tenn doesn't either....mmhmm too and DJ...as well as others here too..Moon for example...however . Believe u have admitted u do so we'll let it stay there but don't assume all do what u admitted u do...especially on a site like this, silly to do so. You posting " We'll let it stay there". Everyone lies.
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Post by dezii on Jun 3, 2019 9:21:59 GMT -5
I don't...I know Tenn doesn't either....mmhmm too and DJ...as well as others here too..Moon for example...however . Believe u have admitted u do so we'll let it stay there but don't assume all do what u admitted u do...especially on a site like this, silly to do so. You posting " We'll let it stay there". Everyone lies. Nada, nope, wrong, not true.....……………..
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Post by happyhoix on Jun 3, 2019 9:29:58 GMT -5
that's a heavy accusation.
I would like ed to address it.
again show me proof i mean real proof on the rape. Was he indicted? NO....was he arrested? NO....is he rich and people will say and do crazy shit to get paid off? Yes... as far as the bankruptcy very common to restructure i known several business men who done it. Not paying contractors for shoddy work done that my self and won in court. So maybe you the red red herring is fed to OPED.... The Trump haters should try removing their blinders OK I'm going to take on this one specifically because I know there is a lot of documentation on Trump's business practice of contracting for a certain price and then stiffing the contractor and refusing to pay. He tells the contractor they can sue if they want to, but he has a stable full of lawyers whose job is to drag out the lawsuit for years and years, so the contractor would be better off financially to just settle for a percentage of the contract. This has nothing to do with the qualify of work the contractors provided, that's just the excuse Trump uses. It's 100% a way to Trump to recoup money when he's overspent on one of his projects.
Here is one of the earliest examples of screwing over contractors - when he did his Trump tower project, he imported a bunch of undocumented Polish construction workers, and short paid them to the extent some of them had to live on the construction site because they couldn't afford to life anyplace else. At the end of the project they sued and he tried to get them deported back to Poland. Decades later, the construction workers finally won. So not only did Trump not have a problem short paying workers, he had no problem using illegal immigrants, too. www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/nyregion/trump-tower-illegal-immigrant-workers-union-settlement.html
Here is an interview with the archetitct who got screwed out of a bunch of money when Trump built his Westchester golf course: www.forbes.com/sites/forbestreptalks/2016/07/13/this-architect-says-trump-almost-destroyed-his-business-but-that-doesnt-mean-they-cant-get-coffee/#6451a18045de
Notice especially this paragraph: Although I resent that he shorted me a huge amount of money, his organization does that to everybody. At the time I could see that the carpenters, the tile guy, the landscape consultant, the mechanical engineering consultant, other vendors and tradespeople were all subjected to an after-the-fact renegotiation challenge. I didn’t take it personally. And I believed Donald Trump when he showered me with compliments. Maybe that was his way of manipulating me into accepting less money. He was also nice and decent to me on an individual basis.
Another article from Forbes on why the US law makes it easy for people like Trump to stiff contractors: fortune.com/2016/09/30/donald-trump-stiff-contractors/ Here is why Forbes says this practice rarely happens:
First, most business people, despite what some people think, have integrity, a heart, and a conscience.
Second—and, okay, maybe this is the more important factor—most business people have ongoing relationships with their suppliers. So if you screw them, they’ll stop working with you. Moreover, word will get out, and other suppliers won’t work with you either.
As Forbes goes on to mention, if you're like Trump in that you build buildings all around the globe, it won't matter so much if you stiff carpet installers all around the globe - you probably won't ever need to use carpet installers in that area again, ever. And if you're the shitty kind of businessman who thinks his obligation to himself and his family to earn a profit trumps whatever legal document he signed with a vendor, then you'll stiff your contractors.
Seriously, Ed, all you have to do is google 'Trump Stiff Vendors' and you'll find a plethora of examples of Trump's MOA from a wide range of journalistic sources. Construction, furnishings, people who sell pianos, plus wait staff, housekeeping, pretty much everyone he deals with either accepts being underpaid or sues him for failure to comply with the contract. This are not all cases of the contractor failing to perform, there are far too many of them. Please do some research and see what you can find. Just please stop putting your fingers in your ears and ignoring the truth, at least on this one issue, and then think about whether Trump might be fudging the truth in some other areas, too.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 10:53:28 GMT -5
You posting " We'll let it stay there". Everyone lies. Nada, nope, wrong, not true.....…………….. Everyone lies.
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Post by dezii on Jun 3, 2019 14:30:40 GMT -5
Nada, nope, wrong, not true.....…………….. Everyone lies. ok...so Moon, mmhmm are liers….I don't believe so...but Mr last word is insisting so I realize x is insistent on this so will leave the battle field to him...or better still... ……………………….
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Post by dezii on Jun 4, 2019 2:46:06 GMT -5
again show me proof i mean real proof on the rape. Was he indicted? NO....was he arrested? NO....is he rich and people will say and do crazy shit to get paid off? Yes... as far as the bankruptcy very common to restructure i known several business men who done it. Not paying contractors for shoddy work done that my self and won in court. So maybe you the red red herring is fed to OPED.... The Trump haters should try removing their blinders OK I'm going to take on this one specifically because I know there is a lot of documentation on Trump's business practice of contracting for a certain price and then stiffing the contractor and refusing to pay. He tells the contractor they can sue if they want to, but he has a stable full of lawyers whose job is to drag out the lawsuit for years and years, so the contractor would be better off financially to just settle for a percentage of the contract. This has nothing to do with the qualify of work the contractors provided, that's just the excuse Trump uses. It's 100% a way to Trump to recoup money when he's overspent on one of his projects.
Here is one of the earliest examples of screwing over contractors - when he did his Trump tower project, he imported a bunch of undocumented Polish construction workers, and short paid them to the extent some of them had to live on the construction site because they couldn't afford to life anyplace else. At the end of the project they sued and he tried to get them deported back to Poland. Decades later, the construction workers finally won. So not only did Trump not have a problem short paying workers, he had no problem using illegal immigrants, too. www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/nyregion/trump-tower-illegal-immigrant-workers-union-settlement.html
Here is an interview with the archetitct who got screwed out of a bunch of money when Trump built his Westchester golf course: www.forbes.com/sites/forbestreptalks/2016/07/13/this-architect-says-trump-almost-destroyed-his-business-but-that-doesnt-mean-they-cant-get-coffee/#6451a18045de
Notice especially this paragraph: Although I resent that he shorted me a huge amount of money, his organization does that to everybody. At the time I could see that the carpenters, the tile guy, the landscape consultant, the mechanical engineering consultant, other vendors and tradespeople were all subjected to an after-the-fact renegotiation challenge. I didn’t take it personally. And I believed Donald Trump when he showered me with compliments. Maybe that was his way of manipulating me into accepting less money. He was also nice and decent to me on an individual basis.
Another article from Forbes on why the US law makes it easy for people like Trump to stiff contractors: fortune.com/2016/09/30/donald-trump-stiff-contractors/ Here is why Forbes says this practice rarely happens:
First, most business people, despite what some people think, have integrity, a heart, and a conscience.
Second—and, okay, maybe this is the more important factor—most business people have ongoing relationships with their suppliers. So if you screw them, they’ll stop working with you. Moreover, word will get out, and other suppliers won’t work with you either.
As Forbes goes on to mention, if you're like Trump in that you build buildings all around the globe, it won't matter so much if you stiff carpet installers all around the globe - you probably won't ever need to use carpet installers in that area again, ever. And if you're the shitty kind of businessman who thinks his obligation to himself and his family to earn a profit trumps whatever legal document he signed with a vendor, then you'll stiff your contractors.
Seriously, Ed, all you have to do is google 'Trump Stiff Vendors' and you'll find a plethora of examples of Trump's MOA from a wide range of journalistic sources. Construction, furnishings, people who sell pianos, plus wait staff, housekeeping, pretty much everyone he deals with either accepts being underpaid or sues him for failure to comply with the contract. This are not all cases of the contractor failing to perform, there are far too many of them. Please do some research and see what you can find. Just please stop putting your fingers in your ears and ignoring the truth, at least on this one issue, and then think about whether Trump might be fudging the truth in some other areas, too.
"Please do some research and see what you can find. Just please stop putting your fingers in your ears and ignoring the truth, at least on this one issue, and then think about whether Trump might be fudging the truth in some other areas, too. "
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 9:39:46 GMT -5
Everyone lies. ok...so Moon, mmhmm are liers….I don't believe so...but Mr last word is insisting so I realize x is insistent on this so will leave the battle field to him...or better still... ………………………. I don't know how much they lie. But they are definitely smarter than you think they are. There's no battlefield. Everyone lies. Everyone.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 4, 2019 10:36:17 GMT -5
You keep saying that like it is an epiphany or something. Most people are NOT pathological liars. right. and who cares if some random dude lies? I don't.
I DO care if the most powerful person on Earth not only lies, but does it with such regularity and for such selfish reasons that it makes him seem wretched in the eyes of anyone watching.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 4, 2019 10:40:43 GMT -5
You keep saying that like it is an epiphany or something. Most people are NOT pathological liars. right. and who cares if some random dude lies? I don't.
I DO care if the most powerful person on Earth not only lies, but does it with such regularity and for such selfish reasons that it makes him seem wretched in the eyes of anyone watching.
Correction: most everyone watching. A minority are perfectly fine with his constant lies and disinformation.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 4, 2019 10:47:51 GMT -5
right. and who cares if some random dude lies? I don't.
I DO care if the most powerful person on Earth not only lies, but does it with such regularity and for such selfish reasons that it makes him seem wretched in the eyes of anyone watching.
Correction: most everyone watching. A minority are perfectly fine with his constant lies and disinformation. in the 60's, conservatives complained loudly about hippies goring their sacred cows.
but that is when they used to believe in a Republic by the enlightened.
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Post by dezii on Jun 4, 2019 13:26:11 GMT -5
ok...so Moon, mmhmm are liers….I don't believe so...but Mr last word is insisting so I realize x is insistent on this so will leave the battle field to him...or better still... ………………………. I don't know how much they lie. But they are definitely smarter than you think they are. There's no battlefield. Everyone lies. Everyone.
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Post by dezii on Jun 4, 2019 13:28:00 GMT -5
ok...so Moon, mmhmm are liers….I don't believe so...but Mr last word is insisting so I realize x is insistent on this so will leave the battle field to him...or better still... ………………………. I don't know how much they lie. But they are definitely smarter than you think they are. There's no battlefield. Everyone lies. Everyone.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jun 4, 2019 13:37:55 GMT -5
People project.
The man who says "everyone lies" is usually a man who lies a lot, himself. The man who says "everyone cheats" is usually a man who cheats a lot, himself. The man who says "everyone steals" is usually a man who steals a lot, himself.
Psychology 101
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 4, 2019 15:56:27 GMT -5
Conservatives. I heard an interview with George Will on NPR this morning. Now there is an intellectual conservative that I enjoy listening to- even if I don't always agree with the man. Actually, I think he speaks better than he writes, at least as far as his editorials go. Sometimes in those he can get a little too clever. But hearing a conservative who spoke eruditely and yet plainly and perfectly sensibly, what a nice change! George Will is awesome. I don't always agree, but I always respect and enjoy. I also assume I am wrong because he is so eloquent and I ain't.
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Post by happyhoix on Jun 4, 2019 19:17:51 GMT -5
People project. The man who says "everyone lies" is usually a man who lies a lot, himself. The man who says "everyone cheats" is usually a man who cheats a lot, himself. The man who says "everyone steals" is usually a man who steals a lot, himself. Psychology 101 And a man who cries 'fake news' all the time is probably spreading a lot of horse shit around. And a man who claims all his billionaire pals considered cheating at taxes 'good sport' is cheating on his taxes.
Seems like Trump and the Trumpettes are all a particular psychological type. Let's call them the 'super-hyperbolic' humans.
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Post by dezii on Jun 5, 2019 8:46:19 GMT -5
ok...so Moon, mmhmm are liers….I don't believe so...but Mr last word is insisting so I realize x is insistent on this so will leave the battle field to him...or better still... ………………………. I don't know how much they lie. But they are definitely smarter than you think they are. There's no battlefield. Everyone lies. Everyone.
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