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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 11, 2019 10:42:56 GMT -5
what he is demonstrating is that he is a certified liar and obstructionist. of course, we all know that. even Mueller. Has anyone considered the fact Trump knows the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS dislike and distrust the IRS. Could he be using this as a ruse to drum up support for him? Since the Justice system failed in their coup attempt against him, the democrats think they can still bring this guy down via tax statements. Ain't happening. By pushing this agenda that will also fail, they are pushing him closer to re-election in 2020. Trump is not going to get removed, except by the popular vote. Democrats are not going to "bring him down" in congress. they know that. everyone knows that.
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 11, 2019 11:05:39 GMT -5
Has anyone considered the fact Trump knows the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS dislike and distrust the IRS. Could he be using this as a ruse to drum up support for him? Since the Justice system failed in their coup attempt against him, the democrats think they can still bring this guy down via tax statements. Ain't happening. By pushing this agenda that will also fail, they are pushing him closer to re-election in 2020. Trump is not going to get removed, except by the popular vote. Democrats are not going to "bring him down" in congress. they know that. everyone knows that. So all the bs from the democrats is just an attempt to stop Trump from fulfilling his duties as President?
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Post by bean29 on Apr 11, 2019 11:38:23 GMT -5
If someone else is not paying their "Fair Share" of taxes, that means that everyone else pays a larger % of the annual budgeted expenses. So, you are saying Americans just hate the IRS, and don't understand the connection between why we pay taxes and where they go?
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 11, 2019 12:52:05 GMT -5
If someone else is not paying their "Fair Share" of taxes, that means that everyone else pays a larger % of the annual budgeted expenses. So, you are saying Americans just hate the IRS, and don't understand the connection between why we pay taxes and where they go? Who is paying their fair share? The 51% that pay no federal taxes? No. The middle class? No. The ten percenters who are rich? No. Business organizations? No. Now tell me who is paying their fair share.
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 11, 2019 12:54:10 GMT -5
I have to say Elizabeth Warren and husband paying $200,000 on a $900,000 income was a shock to me. Not sure if that was just federal or whether it was federal and state tax bill, but she is doing the walk while doing the talk.
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Post by laterbloomer on Apr 11, 2019 12:55:02 GMT -5
Trump is not going to get removed, except by the popular vote. Democrats are not going to "bring him down" in congress. they know that. everyone knows that. So all the bs from the democrats is just an attempt to stop Trump from fulfilling his duties as President? Most of us are looking for him to start fulfilling his duties as President.
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Post by laterbloomer on Apr 11, 2019 13:00:04 GMT -5
I think he can. I think knowing that Oprah has more money than him AND she had no leg up from a rich Daddy embarrasses him. I think having people call him a wannabe embarrasses him. I think being a one term President will kill him. Especially if Obama makes cracks about it. I think it's the stupid stuff that embarrasses him. I don't think embarrassment is in his wheelhouse. Things piss him off, but narcissists don't embarrass easily, if ever. I'm okay with pissing him off.
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 11, 2019 13:06:21 GMT -5
Trump is not going to get removed, except by the popular vote. Democrats are not going to "bring him down" in congress. they know that. everyone knows that. So all the bs from the democrats is just an attempt to stop Trump from fulfilling his duties as President?He has yet to start fulfilling his duties as President. He hangs out a Mar-A-Lago, playing golf, lying to everyone about everything and tweeting bullshit when he's not whipping up his moronic base into a frenzy and perpetuating an "us vs them" mentality.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Apr 11, 2019 13:08:13 GMT -5
We paid a ton of money when hubs worked overseas, we owed it, we paid it.
As far as the IRS, they collect, interpret, and enforce the law. This issue is the tax laws are by and for the rich and the rest of us can't pay enough to make up the differences. If you look at what percentage corporations used to pay and what they pay now you understand why we have such a national debt. The little guys out here could pay every dime they make and it still wouldn't cover what the 1% and corporations don't pay.
At some point in this country there is going to be conflict between the haves and have nots. You can only beat people down by not paying them a living wage so long. Companies wonder why people don't show up for work, with no more then they make staying home a day might pay for gas and sitter not going out. Something has to change somewhere, too many people are hurting.
These are supposed to be good times and around here a lot of houses are being foreclosed on, folks just can't make it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 11, 2019 13:49:01 GMT -5
Trump is not going to get removed, except by the popular vote. Democrats are not going to "bring him down" in congress. they know that. everyone knows that. So all the bs from the democrats is just an attempt to stop Trump from fulfilling his duties as President? tit for tat, bro. right out of the Eric Cantor, Jeb Hensarling, Pete Hoekstra, Dan Lungren, Kevin McCarthy, Paul Ryan, Pete Sessions, Tom Coburn, Bob Corker, Jim DeMint, John Ensign and Jon Kyl playbook.
your game, your rules.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 11, 2019 13:49:54 GMT -5
If someone else is not paying their "Fair Share" of taxes, that means that everyone else pays a larger % of the annual budgeted expenses. So, you are saying Americans just hate the IRS, and don't understand the connection between why we pay taxes and where they go? Who is paying their fair share? The 51% that pay no federal taxes? bzzzzzt. every working person pays federal taxes.
please stop repeating that bullshit. it just makes you look dumb.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 11, 2019 14:07:08 GMT -5
If someone else is not paying their "Fair Share" of taxes, that means that everyone else pays a larger % of the annual budgeted expenses. So, you are saying Americans just hate the IRS, and don't understand the connection between why we pay taxes and where they go? Now tell me who is paying their fair share. nobody. that is why we will have a $1T deficit next year.
while we are on the subject- let's use a nice business example. who do you want as a customer:
1) someone who uses your product or service disproportionately, and has a large amount of disposable income OR 2) someone who uses your product or service less than most, and has little or no disposable income?
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Post by jelloshots4all on Apr 12, 2019 18:24:22 GMT -5
Trump is not going to get removed, except by the popular vote. Democrats are not going to "bring him down" in congress. they know that. everyone knows that. So all the bs from the democrats is just an attempt to stop Trump from fulfilling his duties as President? Hold up!!! What has he actually done as a president besides tweet lies, piss off our allies, get in bed with our enemies, blame Hillary, tear families apart at the border? Where is the "wall" he promised Mexico was going to build?? Where is the new great "health care"? Yeah he lowered taxes for the wealthy, but the rest of us who work everyday to make ends meet, yeah did me no good. OHHHHHH and his comment that he would never play golf ? That douche plays more golf than those on the PGA tour. And on our dime!!
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Post by oped on Apr 12, 2019 21:10:12 GMT -5
Huh. Might be changing my mind on tax fraud with his sister stepping down...
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 12, 2019 22:09:21 GMT -5
Huh. Might be changing my mind on tax fraud with his sister stepping down... End on investigation.
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 13, 2019 8:31:20 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 8:45:07 GMT -5
I choose other #6 I care about Trumps tax returns as much as I cared about Obama's birth certificate. Not at all. Taxes are a persons private business. If some Democrat or Republican thought it would earn him votes in a certain demographic, fine, show your return. It's a tradition, nothing more. I kick my shoes off and put slippers on by the door, when I enter my house, you don't have to when you get home.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 8:47:47 GMT -5
And when it's printed up into the local paper, it'll be placed in the restroom for those who don't buy toilet paper.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 13, 2019 8:51:48 GMT -5
... And when it's printed up into the local paper, it'll be placed in the restroom for those who don't buy toilet paper. I am thinking all the blacked out sections will really leave a mess.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 13, 2019 14:03:24 GMT -5
I choose other #6 I care about Trumps tax returns as much as I cared about Obama's birth certificate. Not at all. then this thread is not for you. this is for people that actually DO care about it.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 14, 2019 12:35:43 GMT -5
Jebus, he's so fucking obvious when he's trying to pander to his base.
Not only hasn't he followed the 10 commandments, he couldn't name 5 out of 10 of them.
He's just lucky the 11th commandment isn't 'thou shall not cheat at golf.'
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Post by oped on Apr 14, 2019 13:05:32 GMT -5
Yeah, it being a commandment hasn't led him to stop doing any of the others... doubt it would keep him from cheating even if golf was explicitly mentioned.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 8:31:07 GMT -5
I choose other #6 I care about Trumps tax returns as much as I cared about Obama's birth certificate. Not at all. then this thread is not for you. this is for people that actually DO care about it.
You did offer #6 in the op.
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 15, 2019 8:43:25 GMT -5
So all the bs from the democrats is just an attempt to stop Trump from fulfilling his duties as President? Hold up!!! What has he actually done as a president besides tweet lies, piss off our allies, get in bed with our enemies, blame Hillary, tear families apart at the border? Where is the "wall" he promised Mexico was going to build?? Where is the new great "health care"? Yeah he lowered taxes for the wealthy, but the rest of us who work everyday to make ends meet, yeah did me no good. OHHHHHH and his comment that he would never play golf ? That douche plays more golf than those on the PGA tour. And on our dime!!I believe he donates his Presidential salary. which of the up and coming candidates would do that?
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Post by OldCoyote on Apr 15, 2019 8:45:37 GMT -5
Ohhh geeeeees, where did they take the poll at liberal convention??
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 15, 2019 9:05:24 GMT -5
Ohhh geeeeees, where did they take the poll at liberal convention?? METHODOLOGICAL DETAILS Dual frame landline and cell phone samples are generated using Random Digit Dialing procedures by Survey Sampling International (SSI). Both the landline and cellular phone samples are stratified by Census division according to area code. link
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Post by phil5185 on Apr 15, 2019 9:32:19 GMT -5
METHODOLOGICAL DETAILS? Puleeze - it is Quinnipiac University National Pol.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 15, 2019 10:02:33 GMT -5
METHODOLOGICAL DETAILS? Puleeze - it is Quinnipiac University National Pol.
Yeah, I know it is a highly respected polling organization but OldCoyote questioned it so I answered his question.
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