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Post by thyme4change on Jul 13, 2017 9:08:27 GMT -5
I tried and failed. I keep getting advice to try again, this way, that way, etc. I keep failing. I guess I could buy 5 containers and just sit one Saturday and do it over and over until I figure it out, but right now means every failure is a time I need to have a plan B for dinner and everyone gets annoyed with me. The real trick is not to crisp the actual tofu...wrap the tofu in bacon, then crisp up the bacon...it's much tastier that way. If people can be a "vegetarian but I still eat fish" or "vegan but I eat eggs" then you can be a "vegetarian but I eat bacon". LOL. Is the next step in that recipe to toss out the tofu and eat the bacon? Many years ago there was a BBC show called Coupling. One character was super dumb, and she declared she was a vegetarian who ate meat, because she believed vegetarianism should be about inclusion, not exclusion.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Jul 13, 2017 9:26:56 GMT -5
The real trick is not to crisp the actual tofu...wrap the tofu in bacon, then crisp up the bacon...it's much tastier that way. If people can be a "vegetarian but I still eat fish" or "vegan but I eat eggs" then you can be a "vegetarian but I eat bacon". LOL. Is the next step in that recipe to toss out the tofu and eat the bacon? Many years ago there was a BBC show called Coupling. One character was super dumb, and she declared she was a vegetarian who ate meat, because she believed vegetarianism should be about inclusion, not exclusion. I remember that show! The American version was bad, at least this one had adorable Brits.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jul 13, 2017 10:11:42 GMT -5
LOL. Is the next step in that recipe to toss out the tofu and eat the bacon? Many years ago there was a BBC show called Coupling. One character was super dumb, and she declared she was a vegetarian who ate meat, because she believed vegetarianism should be about inclusion, not exclusion. I remember that show! The American version was bad, at least this one had adorable Brits. I have that entire show (BBC version) on DVD. I absolutely love it and still watch it from time to time.
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Post by imawino on Jul 13, 2017 15:02:49 GMT -5
If you and your family are eating a balanced diet with lots of fruits, veggies, protein, and fiber, I don't get why you are stressing yourselves with trying to eat/make your family eat other healthy things that they don't like. IMO that is creating a problem where there is none. I'm all for branching out and trying new things, but if you try it once and don't like it, there's no point in continuing to make it knowing that no one will really enjoy it. Well supposedly you are supposed to try things 10 times before you can announce you actually dislike it. So being a glutton for punishment I make myself try it at least 10 different ways before I give up. But yes there are some things that are a one and done. I tried to cook with eggplant and it was so bad DH told me that I am never allowed to attempt to cook with it again. TEN TIMES?! That's straight up nonsense. And from a YM standpoint, that's just wasting your money 9 more times than necessary.
It's okay to not like certain foods. I'm a fan of trying new things, and being adventurous with your diet, but there's no point in buying and eating crap you hate just to be trendy-healthy.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jul 13, 2017 15:18:24 GMT -5
Well supposedly you are supposed to try things 10 times before you can announce you actually dislike it. So being a glutton for punishment I make myself try it at least 10 different ways before I give up. But yes there are some things that are a one and done. I tried to cook with eggplant and it was so bad DH told me that I am never allowed to attempt to cook with it again. TEN TIMES?! That's straight up nonsense. And from a YM standpoint, that's just wasting your money 9 more times than necessary.
It's okay to not like certain foods. I'm a fan of trying new things, and being adventurous with your diet, but there's no point in buying and eating crap you hate just to be trendy-healthy.
FACTS.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 13, 2017 15:19:45 GMT -5
Well supposedly you are supposed to try things 10 times before you can announce you actually dislike it. So being a glutton for punishment I make myself try it at least 10 different ways before I give up. But yes there are some things that are a one and done. I tried to cook with eggplant and it was so bad DH told me that I am never allowed to attempt to cook with it again. TEN TIMES?! That's straight up nonsense. And from a YM standpoint, that's just wasting your money 9 more times than necessary.
It's okay to not like certain foods. I'm a fan of trying new things, and being adventurous with your diet, but there's no point in buying and eating crap you hate just to be trendy-healthy.
There is proof that multiple times does matter. I think 10 is just a nice round number. As I said, sometimes you can learn to cook it right, sometimes you just gotta get used to a flavor. Sometimes you just need to find the right combination. Trial and error are imperative to success.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 13, 2017 15:25:30 GMT -5
TEN TIMES?! That's straight up nonsense. And from a YM standpoint, that's just wasting your money 9 more times than necessary.
It's okay to not like certain foods. I'm a fan of trying new things, and being adventurous with your diet, but there's no point in buying and eating crap you hate just to be trendy-healthy.
There is proof that multiple times does matter. I think 10 is just a nice round number. As I said, sometimes you can learn to cook it right, sometimes you just gotta get used to a flavor. Sometimes you just need to find the right combination. Trial and error are imperative to success. I made green goo the first time I tried to cook asparagus. I steamed it WAY too long. Someone on here said the roasted it so that's what I tried next and now it's one of our favorite vegetables. It's also really good grilled, I tried that for the fourth of July. If I had let DH stand by and "hate" every vegetable he claimed to hate all we'd be eating for dinner is canned corn. He had an epiphany after I forced him to try stuff that it was the method of cooking his mother used that he hated. Boiled brussel sprouts are smelly gross little things. Roasted brussel sprouts tossed with brown butter and apples are delicious.
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Post by kittensaver on Jul 13, 2017 15:38:21 GMT -5
TEN TIMES?! That's straight up nonsense. And from a YM standpoint, that's just wasting your money 9 more times than necessary.
It's okay to not like certain foods. I'm a fan of trying new things, and being adventurous with your diet, but there's no point in buying and eating crap you hate just to be trendy-healthy.
There is proof that multiple times does matter. I think 10 is just a nice round number. As I said, sometimes you can learn to cook it right, sometimes you just gotta get used to a flavor. Sometimes you just need to find the right combination. Trial and error are imperative to success. I grew up *hating* vegetables because after my Sicilian Nonna died my mom took back over the family meals, and as much as I love my mother - she is an intermediately lousy cook (and admits it!). It simply held *no* interest for her.
Post-Nonna (I was 8 when she died), vegetables were smelly, overcooked piles of mush that got dumped out of a can and into a saucepan (can liquids and all ) to be heated and then transferred directly to a dinner plate That is in large part what drove my interest in cooking and for me to start preparing all the family dinners (that, and I got out of doing the dishes ). I was the tender age of 14 when I started.
When I finally learned to prepare fresh vegetables properly, I learned to love them. Not only have I learned to prepare them right, I now grow about 75-80% of all our veggies myself.
Eating vegetables daily is not just "trendy-healthy" - far from it. The variety of nutrients in vegetables are essential for human health, and as everyone here well knows there are serious, long-term negative implications to human health when key nutrients are missing in the long view.
So JMHO it's worth it to spend the time experimenting - repeatedly - to find flavors you like before giving up. And if you finally *do* give up, it's then a matter of researching the essential nutrients in that foodstuff and finding other foods (or food combinations) that will give you those nutrients instead.
JMHO YMMV
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 13, 2017 15:38:28 GMT -5
Maybe it was me that suggested roasting it. My story with my husband's journey with vegetables is nearly identical. Roasting many vegetables was a huge revelation for him. We grill asparagus a lot too.
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Post by kittensaver on Jul 13, 2017 15:39:17 GMT -5
There is proof that multiple times does matter. I think 10 is just a nice round number. As I said, sometimes you can learn to cook it right, sometimes you just gotta get used to a flavor. Sometimes you just need to find the right combination. Trial and error are imperative to success. I made green goo the first time I tried to cook asparagus. I steamed it WAY too long. Someone on here said the roasted it so that's what I tried next and now it's one of our favorite vegetables. It's also really good grilled, I tried that for the fourth of July. If I had let DH stand by and "hate" every vegetable he claimed to hate all we'd be eating for dinner is canned corn. He had an epiphany after I forced him to try stuff that it was the method of cooking his mother used that he hated. Boiled brussel sprouts are smelly gross little things. Roasted brussel sprouts tossed with brown butter and apples are delicious. I wish I could like this post a thousand times
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 13, 2017 15:41:59 GMT -5
Maybe it was me that suggested roasting it. My story with my husband's journey with vegetables is nearly identical. Roasting many vegetables was a huge revelation for him. We grill asparagus a lot too. I keep hearing all this talk about how the generations before us ate SO healthy. Then I listen to DH and my parents talk about what they ate as kids and I wonder how the human race didn't go extinct. I am pretty sure you've destroyed any nutritional benefit to a vegetable if by the time it makes it to your plate it's turned grey.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jul 13, 2017 15:46:54 GMT -5
I made dip for chips and dip. I blame this thread for that.
Grilled asparagus is delicious. I try to expand my horizons because I get tired of the same old crap. It's easier at my house because my brother is way more adventurous than me. DF on the other hand is a work in progress.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 13, 2017 15:49:15 GMT -5
I made dip for chips and dip. I blame this thread for that. Grilled asparagus is delicious. I try to expand my horizons because I get tired of the same old crap. It's easier at my house because my brother is way more adventurous than me. DF on the other hand is a work in progress. DH was worse than my seven year old. I consider it practice because now both kids are going thru picky phases. I figure keep introducing it now and even if they don't eat it today it'll be wired into the brains later as adults and maybe they will think "Hmm. . I should give that a second chance". DH's diet consisted of canned corn and Hot Pockets when we started dating. He did a complete 180 but it involved a lot of kicking and screaming to get there.
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Post by imawino on Jul 13, 2017 15:52:33 GMT -5
There is proof that multiple times does matter. I think 10 is just a nice round number. As I said, sometimes you can learn to cook it right, sometimes you just gotta get used to a flavor. Sometimes you just need to find the right combination. Trial and error are imperative to success. I grew up *hating* vegetables because after my Sicilian Nonna died my mom took back over the family meals, and as much as I love my mother - she is an intermediately lousy cook (and admits it!). It simply held *no* interest for her.
Post-Nonna (I was 8 when she died), vegetables were smelly, overcooked piles of mush that got dumped out of a can and into a saucepan (can liquids and all ) to be heated and then transferred directly to a dinner plate That is in large part what drove my interest in cooking and for me to start preparing all the family dinners (that, and I got out of doing the dishes ). I was the tender age of 14 when I started.
When I finally learned to prepare fresh vegetables properly, I learned to love them. Not only have I learned to prepare them right, I now grow about 75-80% of all our veggies myself.
Eating vegetables daily is not just "trendy-healthy" - far from it. The variety of nutrients in vegetables are essential for human health, and as everyone here well knows there are serious, long-term negative implications to human health when key nutrients are missing in the long view.
So JMHO it's worth it to spend the time experimenting - repeatedly - to find flavors you like before giving up. And if you finally *do* give up, it's then a matter of researching the essential nutrients in that foodstuff and finding other foods (or food combinations) that will give you those nutrients instead.
JMHO YMMV
I guess I should have clarified that as long as you are eating a balanced diet it's okay to not like certain foods. Like I said, I'm a big fan of experimenting and trying new things - and fortunately everyone I eat with or cook for likes a variety of vegetables, grains and proteins. So from my standpoint, it's totally fine to not like a certain thing and not stress over it. Obviously, if I were working with family who hated every vegetable they tried, my perspective would be different. But that's not where I am in life. If you eat 49 out of 50 veggies, so be it.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 13, 2017 15:52:33 GMT -5
My son will not eat coconut or have anything with coconut in it. I make a killer Brazilian chicken that is swimming in coconut milk. He loves it. I just hide the can and don't tell him. He won't eat mushrooms. He loved my rice cooked in mushroom broth until I made the mistake of telling him. Now he won't touch it. People are weird.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jul 13, 2017 15:53:29 GMT -5
DF has quit buying hot pockets so that's something! He threw a fit about trying risotto.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 13, 2017 15:54:32 GMT -5
DF has quit buying hot pockets so that's something! He threw a fit about trying risotto. I had to learn to cook when I moved in with DH because it was either that or starve because no way was I eating Hot Pockets. He even had breakfast ones.
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Post by kittensaver on Jul 13, 2017 15:54:41 GMT -5
I guess I should have clarified that as long as you are eating a balanced diet it's okay to not like certain foods. Like I said, I'm a big fan of experimenting and trying new things - and fortunately everyone I eat with or cook for likes a variety of vegetables, grains and proteins. So from my standpoint, it's totally fine to not like a certain thing and not stress over it. Obviously, if I were working with family who hated every vegetable they tried, my perspective would be different. But that's not where I am in life. If you eat 49 out of 50 veggies, so be it. Agreed - absolutely.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jul 13, 2017 15:55:36 GMT -5
I don't mind toasted coconut or coconut milk. The texture of packaged, shredded coconut reminds me of hair. I chewed on my hair a few times as a kid and it's exactly like that. (shudder) I've never had fresh coconut so the jury is still out on that.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 13, 2017 15:59:32 GMT -5
I don't mind toasted coconut or coconut milk. The texture of packaged, shredded coconut reminds me of hair. I chewed on my hair a few times as a kid and it's exactly like that. (shudder) I've never had fresh coconut so the jury is still out on that. I don't like it, either, but cooking with coconut milk and lots of exotic spices....yum! A fresh coconut hacked off the tree with a machete and split open? Delicious.
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Post by imawino on Jul 13, 2017 16:07:16 GMT -5
Coconut only belongs in pina coladas and Samoa cookies. LOL.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 13, 2017 16:20:22 GMT -5
Maybe it was me that suggested roasting it. My story with my husband's journey with vegetables is nearly identical. Roasting many vegetables was a huge revelation for him. We grill asparagus a lot too. I keep hearing all this talk about how the generations before us ate SO healthy. Then I listen to DH and my parents talk about what they ate as kids and I wonder how the human race didn't go extinct. I am pretty sure you've destroyed any nutritional benefit to a vegetable if by the time it makes it to your plate it's turned grey. All those recipes with "convenience foods" that got huge in the 70s - barf o'rama. Velveeta - what an abomination!
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jul 13, 2017 16:31:21 GMT -5
Velveeta was a semi-staple when I was a kid and I am younger that you are! The only way I'll eat it now is when I make this sausage queso/dip.
brick of Velveeta 2 can Ro-Tel browned Jimmy Dean Sausage
YUM! But definitely not a real food.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jul 13, 2017 17:58:16 GMT -5
No no no! Cream cheese + Hormel chili without the beans.
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Post by thyme4change on Jul 13, 2017 21:27:03 GMT -5
Velveeta was a semi-staple when I was a kid and I am younger that you are! The only way I'll eat it now is when I make this sausage queso/dip. brick of Velveeta 2 can Ro-Tel browned Jimmy Dean Sausage YUM! But definitely not a real food. Actually, we didn't have a lot of that crap in my house growing up because my mom was a little older than many of my peer's moms. My mom came from an era (and economic group) that had an ice box as a kid, so going down and buying fresh food every day was the norm. And, although she did give in to some convenience foods, for the most part she cooked classic meals from scratch - every night. Twice a year we would order pizza. But, my MIL was a working Mom and lived in a remote area (that did not have fertile ground) so my husband had a lot of processed foods that were shelf stable. It took several years to teach him the joy of Mac and cheese, made from real cheese and a roux. Although recently I bought a cheese dip that was very velveeta-ish, put it in the tiny crock pot and got super pretzels. Man, was he crazy happy.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Jul 13, 2017 21:41:17 GMT -5
Yeah, also grew up in the 70's, but mom was older, too. Old school and old country. Lots of Polish food, and even the stuff that wasn't was all made from scratch. Plus, my mom had a thing for quality food, so she didn't skimp on the price. She bought Amish chickens back then, for the same reason people buy organic these days. We had TV dinners maybe once or twice. They were disgusting back then. We did also do Kraft Mac n cheese, very occasionally. I tried chef boy r Dee for the first time at a friend's house. Velveeta? An abomination for sure. Though, I gotta say, my grandma got the government cheese, and that was the bomb. 😛
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 13, 2017 22:56:00 GMT -5
I keep hearing all this talk about how the generations before us ate SO healthy. Then I listen to DH and my parents talk about what they ate as kids and I wonder how the human race didn't go extinct. I am pretty sure you've destroyed any nutritional benefit to a vegetable if by the time it makes it to your plate it's turned grey. All those recipes with "convenience foods" that got huge in the 70s - barf o'rama. Velveeta - what an abomination! ...or those God-awful Jello molds of the 50s and 60s.
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Post by Anne_in_VA on Jul 14, 2017 6:31:46 GMT -5
My mom cooked from scratch for all of our meals. I don't remember ever having any processed food growing up and I didn't have pizza until I was an adult. My grandparents lived on 5+ acres in rural CT (this was back in the 1950's) and grew much of their food which was canned and frozen. I remember going down to the basement freezer to get some fozen veggies out to thaw for dinner. Grandpa hunted, and they kept chickens. My mom ate so much chicken that she helped kill as a kid, that she wouldn't eat it for a long time after she left home to get married.
I try to cook healthy meals, but love takeout too much. I don't use a lot of prepared foods and can't stand Velveeta.
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Post by alabamagal on Jul 14, 2017 7:21:01 GMT -5
My DH is pretty picky about vegetables and grains other than pasta. We made a big diet change 6 months ago due to his diabetes. We use a good cookbook and website to prepare our meals. Lots of vegetables and whole grains. I have gotten him to even halfway enjoy them. Even tofu meals - we are not vegetarian.
But as many times as I try them I will NEVER in my life like olives. Even a small piece on a pizza or salad will make me spit it out. I have had them more than 10 times.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Jul 14, 2017 11:04:00 GMT -5
Velveeta was a semi-staple when I was a kid and I am younger that you are! The only way I'll eat it now is when I make this sausage queso/dip. brick of Velveeta 2 can Ro-Tel browned Jimmy Dean Sausage YUM! But definitely not a real food. I make that except use 8 oz of cream cheese and one can of Rotel. (1 lb of the sausage, just in case yours is more) I like mine better because it's not Velveeta
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