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<snip> So, free (tax payer provided) birth control on demand. Who is with me It's free via ACA insurance, or via what I did as a broke teenager, Planned Parenthood. Deal me in, either way. I'd prefer ACA since that would make it readily available in more places than Planned Parenthood. You know, I don't want one of those places in MY neighborhood. I also used PP as a broke teenager and one of the nice things about being 64 years old and not having to worry about what current or prospective employers think, is that I can "come out of the closet" on FB and say that I used PP for contraception in HS and it's one of the reasons I never had an unwanted pregnancy.
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Post by siralynn on Mar 24, 2017 21:14:58 GMT -5
<snip> So, free (tax payer provided) birth control on demand. Who is with me It's free via ACA insurance, or via what I did as a broke teenager, Planned Parenthood. Deal me in, either way. I'd prefer ACA since that would make it readily available in more places than Planned Parenthood. You know, I don't want one of those places in MY neighborhood. I also used PP as a broke teenager and one of the nice things about being 64 years old and not having to worry about what current or prospective employers think, is that I can "come out of the closet" on FB and say that I used PP for contraception in HS and it's one of the reasons I never had an unwanted pregnancy. One of the biggest logical disconnects I have with current "conservative" party lines is their positions toward women: 1) no abortion 2) therefore no Planned Parenthood 3) and definitely no birth control from anywhere else either 4) oh, and no maternity coverage in health insurance if you happen to have it 5) oh, and no maternity LEAVE either 6) oh, and if you have Medicaid, you have to go back to work within 60 days 7) oh, except that it's really not fair to employers to have to hire women, because they might have a kid, so where were you going to get a job again? 8) but we can't rebuild our civilization with other people's children It's like one needle scratch after another. Regardless of anyone's personal feelings towards abortion, it would seem that liberals and conservatives could agree on one worth goal - reducing/eliminating unwanted pregnancies. It's VASTLY cheaper than any other option. And the key to reducing/eliminating unwanted pregnancies is birth control access. Also, side note - if the Republicans don't want men to have to pay for maternity care in their health insurance, they need to only make those policies available to men that can prove they've had a vasectomy (or are otherwise sterile).
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Post by Rob Base 2.0 on Mar 24, 2017 21:19:37 GMT -5
Deal me in, either way. I'd prefer ACA since that would make it readily available in more places than Planned Parenthood. You know, I don't want one of those places in MY neighborhood. I also used PP as a broke teenager and one of the nice things about being 64 years old and not having to worry about what current or prospective employers think, is that I can "come out of the closet" on FB and say that I used PP for contraception in HS and it's one of the reasons I never had an unwanted pregnancy. One of the biggest logical disconnects I have with current "conservative" party lines is their positions toward women: 1) no abortion 2) therefore no Planned Parenthood 3) and definitely no birth control from anywhere else either 4) oh, and no maternity coverage in health insurance if you happen to have it 5) oh, and no maternity LEAVE either 6) oh, and if you have Medicaid, you have to go back to work within 60 days 7) oh, except that it's really not fair to employers to have to hire women, because they might have a kid, so where were you going to get a job again? 8) but we can't rebuild our civilization with other people's children It's like one needle scratch after another. Regardless of anyone's personal feelings towards abortion, it would seem that liberals and conservatives could agree on one worth goal - reducing/eliminating unwanted pregnancies. It's VASTLY cheaper than any other option. And the key to reducing/eliminating unwanted pregnancies is birth control access. Also, side note - if the Republicans don't want men to have to pay for maternity care in their health insurance, they need to only make those policies available to men that can prove they've had a vasectomy (or are otherwise sterile). That's why I don't think you or anyone should subscribe to any party and agree on EVERY point and should not AUTOMATICALLY hate / disregard the "opposite" party. Think for yourself. Listen OPEN MINDEDLY to BOTH sides and then make an informed decision.
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Post by siralynn on Mar 24, 2017 21:26:42 GMT -5
One of the biggest logical disconnects I have with current "conservative" party lines is their positions toward women: 1) no abortion 2) therefore no Planned Parenthood 3) and definitely no birth control from anywhere else either 4) oh, and no maternity coverage in health insurance if you happen to have it 5) oh, and no maternity LEAVE either 6) oh, and if you have Medicaid, you have to go back to work within 60 days 7) oh, except that it's really not fair to employers to have to hire women, because they might have a kid, so where were you going to get a job again? 8) but we can't rebuild our civilization with other people's children It's like one needle scratch after another. Regardless of anyone's personal feelings towards abortion, it would seem that liberals and conservatives could agree on one worth goal - reducing/eliminating unwanted pregnancies. It's VASTLY cheaper than any other option. And the key to reducing/eliminating unwanted pregnancies is birth control access. Also, side note - if the Republicans don't want men to have to pay for maternity care in their health insurance, they need to only make those policies available to men that can prove they've had a vasectomy (or are otherwise sterile). That's why I don't think you or anyone should subscribe to any party and agree on EVERY point and should not AUTOMATICALLY hate / disregard the "opposite" party. Think for yourself. Listen OPEN MINDEDLY to BOTH sides and then make an informed decision. I don't automatically hate the Republicans, but I like rational thinking, and when I try to follow their logic around birth control, it makes zero sense whatsoever.
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Post by Rob Base 2.0 on Mar 24, 2017 21:28:42 GMT -5
That's why I don't think you or anyone should subscribe to any party and agree on EVERY point and should not AUTOMATICALLY hate / disregard the "opposite" party. Think for yourself. Listen OPEN MINDEDLY to BOTH sides and then make an informed decision. I don't automatically hate the Republicans, but I like rational thinking, and when I try to follow their logic around birth control, it makes zero sense whatsoever. And I pretty much agree with that as well
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 21:37:49 GMT -5
That's why I don't think you or anyone should subscribe to any party and agree on EVERY point and should not AUTOMATICALLY hate / disregard the "opposite" party. Think for yourself. Listen OPEN MINDEDLY to BOTH sides and then make an informed decision. I don't automatically hate the Republicans, but I like rational thinking, and when I try to follow their logic around birth control, it makes zero sense whatsoever. That's because you don't think like a Catholic. The only acceptable birth control is abstinence. That's free!
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Post by siralynn on Mar 24, 2017 21:42:55 GMT -5
I don't automatically hate the Republicans, but I like rational thinking, and when I try to follow their logic around birth control, it makes zero sense whatsoever. That's because you don't think like a Catholic. The only acceptable birth control is abstinence. That's free! Right. But we have something called separation of church and state around here. Supposedly. 😊
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Post by siralynn on Mar 24, 2017 21:44:31 GMT -5
I don't automatically hate the Republicans, but I like rational thinking, and when I try to follow their logic around birth control, it makes zero sense whatsoever. That's because you don't think like a Catholic. The only acceptable birth control is abstinence. That's free! What I would love to see is all women going on strike - that would probably change men's attitudes pretty fast!!! Because even married women need birth control.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Mar 25, 2017 11:01:23 GMT -5
Deal me in, either way. I'd prefer ACA since that would make it readily available in more places than Planned Parenthood. You know, I don't want one of those places in MY neighborhood. I also used PP as a broke teenager and one of the nice things about being 64 years old and not having to worry about what current or prospective employers think, is that I can "come out of the closet" on FB and say that I used PP for contraception in HS and it's one of the reasons I never had an unwanted pregnancy. One of the biggest logical disconnects I have with current "conservative" party lines is their positions toward women: 1) no abortion 2) therefore no Planned Parenthood 3) and definitely no birth control from anywhere else either 4) oh, and no maternity coverage in health insurance if you happen to have it 5) oh, and no maternity LEAVE either 6) oh, and if you have Medicaid, you have to go back to work within 60 days 7) oh, except that it's really not fair to employers to have to hire women, because they might have a kid, so where were you going to get a job again? 8) but we can't rebuild our civilization with other people's children It's like one needle scratch after another. Regardless of anyone's personal feelings towards abortion, it would seem that liberals and conservatives could agree on one worth goal - reducing/eliminating unwanted pregnancies. It's VASTLY cheaper than any other option. And the key to reducing/eliminating unwanted pregnancies is birth control access. Also, side note - if the Republicans don't want men to have to pay for maternity care in their health insurance, they need to only make those policies available to men that can prove they've had a vasectomy (or are otherwise sterile). Yep. I am a registered Republican, and even *I* don't talk about PP, much less abortion, to my staunch conservative friends. This is why I take issue with people trying to put folks on the left and right into neat little boxes. Things aren't that black and white. IMO, of course.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 25, 2017 22:36:35 GMT -5
Interesting questions come up- like are they lead poisoned because they voted Democrat, or are they Democrats because they are lead poisoned?
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 25, 2017 22:57:28 GMT -5
Interesting questions come up- like are they lead poisoned because they voted Democrat, or are they Democrats because they are lead poisoned? Well, it was the Republicans in charge that decided to switch sources of water to the more caustic river water, whilst simultaneously discontinuing the use of the protective water additive that prevented the lead from the pipes to leach into the drinking water.
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Post by 973beachbum on Mar 26, 2017 9:02:14 GMT -5
Interesting questions come up- like are they lead poisoned because they voted Democrat, or are they Democrats because they are lead poisoned? Well, it was the Republicans in charge that decided to switch sources of water to the more caustic river water, whilst simultaneously discontinuing the use of the protective water additive that prevented the lead from the pipes to leach into the drinking water. Flint aside most of this pollution like lead is from 50-100 years ago. So not about modern politics, just something people did did back then because it was what people always did. The problem is the effects of something like lead poisoning is incredibly damaging to the brain. And everyone worries about the children like in Flint. Well I do too and the Reuters piece with the boy up top totally kills me. But lead poisoning effects don't just disappear like an infection does after antibiotics. All they can do is hopefully get them away from it so they don't get poisoned worse, and use things like high dose iron to mitigate the damage. But make no mistake in 10 or 15 years he won't be a happy HS or college student doing regular teen things. He will be lucky to not be in jail IMO.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Mar 26, 2017 19:13:39 GMT -5
One thing I wish we could do, if we truly want to reduce the numbers in poverty, is to give free "life skills" classes, so the next generation would do better than the previous one. Those in poverty can't break the cycle if no one teaches them how to do better. But for those classes to have any effect, the people you're teaching have to already be convinced that their poor upbringing is very much the result of their parent's bad decisions. Otherwise, you might as well be talking to a wall. Saying that 'the man' has the decked stacked against you is a lot easier than admitting that the people you love the most are responsible for your shitty childhood. This is one reason why I see leaving children with trainwrecks as a form a child abuse.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 26, 2017 19:30:42 GMT -5
I don't automatically hate the Republicans, but I like rational thinking, and when I try to follow their logic around birth control, it makes zero sense whatsoever. That's because you don't think like a Catholic. The only acceptable birth control is abstinence. That's free! I'd change that to Catholic Church. Most Catholic's I know use or have used BC. ( I believe I've read the majority do, too, not just my circle.)
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Post by Miss Tequila on Mar 27, 2017 8:50:35 GMT -5
One thing I wish we could do, if we truly want to reduce the numbers in poverty, is to give free "life skills" classes, so the next generation would do better than the previous one. Those in poverty can't break the cycle if no one teaches them how to do better. But for those classes to have any effect, the people you're teaching have to already be convinced that their poor upbringing is very much the result of their parent's bad decisions. Otherwise, you might as well be talking to a wall. Saying that 'the man' has the decked stacked against you is a lot easier than admitting that the people you love the most are responsible for your shitty childhood. This is one reason why I see leaving children with trainwrecks as a form a child abuse.
That is why I hate when people say that they are successfully because they are lucky. Yes, if you had some relative leave you $1million dollars that is luck. You can't control who your relatives are. But someone that goes to college, chooses a good career and then goes on to become successful is not lucky. The made smart decisions and worked towards a goal. By negating that and saying "I was lucky that a job opened up just when I graduated college" is taking away from everything they had to do to become qualified for htat job.
From reading this thread there is a huge difference in that thought process between those I believe to be liberal versus conservative. The successful liberals on here seem to think that luck played into their becoming successful while the conservatives think good planning, choices and determination were the main factors making them successful. I think we do a disservice to the poor by telling them that their poverty is nothing more than bad luck. Why should they even try when they see their lives as nothing more than one bad luck after another? Yes, being born into poverty means it is harder to become successful but that doesn't mean it is impossible. Sure, it is easier if you are born to well-connected, wealthy parents but that just means the rest of us have to work a little harder. Not once in my life did I ever think I couldn't become successful just because of my childhood. My mom made her choices but that is no reflection on what I could accomplish. And the worst thing that could have happened to me was have some bleeding heart tell me that I am doomed to poverty because I wasn't born to the right people. Instead of telling people how "lucky" the successful are, why not focus on the steps they took to become successful? Chalking it up to luck does nothing to help anyone struggling in poverty right now. Giving them concrete steps to better themselves instead of pity is so much more productive. Admitting that people are poor because of choices they made is ok, too.
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Post by swamp on Mar 27, 2017 8:59:00 GMT -5
I don't think it was mainly luck that got me here. But I do recognize it had a role in it.
I also think part it is recognizing opportunities when they arise fortuitously. It's completely luck of the draw about when some opportunities arise. It's good choices/self confidence that allow you to act on those opportunities.
I'd also be lying if I didn't recognize "who you know" as part of my success, which I attribute to luck. Part of the reason I got my first job as an ADA is that the DA knows my family (his gf and my gf were buddies, my aunt babysat him) and is really good friends with my BFF's much older siblings. Obviously I interviewed well, but I got the interview because he knew who I was. I didn't have any experience and was fresh out of law school, but he was willing to take a chance on me.
Once I got that job, I ran with it.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Mar 27, 2017 9:07:24 GMT -5
I also think part it is recognizing opportunities when they arise fortuitously. It's completely luck of the draw about when some opportunities arise. It's good choices/self confidence that allow you to act on those opportunities.
I got damn lucky that my current job popped up when it did. If it hadn't I'd still be at BT and looking at being unemployed in three months. It was my skill set that got me the job. I know there are few people out there who are as good at what I do as I am. I never suspected that being a mouse pimp was going to be my main calling card, but I roll with it. It's one of the few times in life you can talk about sex during an interview and not get in trouble. I can't take advantage of it if there is no opportunity to do so. I'm a control freak so it's hard for me to admit that I am not 100% in control of the entire universe. I'm only in control of how I react to it.
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Post by buystoys on Mar 27, 2017 9:17:37 GMT -5
It's a start. I've been seeing a FaceBook meme posted by well-intentioned friends stating, "I don't care if school lunches improve kids' grades. I just want to feed hungry kids." What *I* want to do is find out why so many kids go to school hungry. Is there food in the house but the parents are too lazy to fix anything? Are they selling the groceries they buy with their EBT card for drugs? Are they too drugged out to even buy groceries? Are they working 2 jobs and can't get to the food bank? Did the fathers flee the scene and ignore their obligations? We've gone from free lunches for a few kids (and I use the term "free" loosely since they're paid for by taxpayers) to free for everybody, either to avoid stigma or because a huge % qualify anyway, to free breakfasts, and BackSnacks on the weekend. Yes, I'd LOVE to figure out the root causes and resolve those instead of applying more and more band-aids. The problem with this train of thought is that it does not solve the immediate problem that schools are dealing with. The kids have absolutely no control over what their parents are or are not doing, but they are coming to school hungry and it is affecting their education. While the reason for this should be researched, it is more imperative to feed the kids NOW. It is a band aid, but it works. Agree wholeheartedly! I would support legislation that said if kids were in school, the SNAP card would be reduced by an amount to offset the cost of school meals. Then I'd like to see the kids get all their meals through the school. I also support year round schooling especially for kids that are from poorer neighborhoods.
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Post by midjd on Mar 27, 2017 9:34:08 GMT -5
(desperation works too!) I say I am lucky to have gotten a job when I did, because I truly am -- the employment rate for my graduating class was abysmal. And it had a ripple effect -- almost 8 years later, my classmates who took $25/hr document review jobs to pay the bills are now passed over in favor of new graduates for entry-level jobs but don't have the experience for lateral transfers. My career would be completely different today if I had zigged or zagged even slightly. I was willing/able to take an unpaid fellowship in the first place only because I had a husband who could financially support me. While I would like to claim him as one of my good choices, there was some luck involved there too! I fully acknowledge if I had been a bad employee I would not have my job today, but there were many factors outside my control that gave me the opportunity to prove myself.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 27, 2017 9:34:11 GMT -5
Interesting questions come up- like are they lead poisoned because they voted Democrat, or are they Democrats because they are lead poisoned? Well, it was the Republicans in charge that decided to switch sources of water to the more caustic river water, whilst simultaneously discontinuing the use of the protective water additive that prevented the lead from the pipes to leach into the drinking water. You're citing ONE instance- the point of the links to the other contaminated areas was that Flint was probably one of the LEAST of the list. I'd look at the map- see who's running the show where our nation's worst problems exist.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 27, 2017 9:37:16 GMT -5
I also think part it is recognizing opportunities when they arise fortuitously. It's completely luck of the draw about when some opportunities arise. It's good choices/self confidence that allow you to act on those opportunities.
I got damn lucky that my current job popped up when it did. If it hadn't I'd still be at BT and looking at being unemployed in three months. It was my skill set that got me the job. I know there are few people out there who are as good at what I do as I am. I never suspected that being a mouse pimp was going to be my main calling card, but I roll with it. It's one of the few times in life you can talk about sex during an interview and not get in trouble. I can't take advantage of it if there is no opportunity to do so. I'm a control freak so it's hard for me to admit that I am not 100% in control of the entire universe. I'm only in control of how I react to it. You cannot discount luck. It's damn lucky we were all born in developed western economies- particularly those of us in The United States. However, luck is when preparation meets opportunity. Your current job could have opened up 8 days a week since you were born- if you weren't qualified for it, what would it have mattered?
And while you were qualified- skill set matters- nobody particularly cares (or will ever know) if you are qualified if you are not on the lookout for opportunities, and you haven't the ability to sell yourself- to communicate those qualifications to someone in the position to hire you.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 27, 2017 9:44:10 GMT -5
Well, it was the Republicans in charge that decided to switch sources of water to the more caustic river water, whilst simultaneously discontinuing the use of the protective water additive that prevented the lead from the pipes to leach into the drinking water. You're citing ONE instance- the point of the links to the other contaminated areas was that Flint was probably one of the LEAST of the list. I'd look at the map- see who's running the show where our nation's worst problems exist. In the other cases, what does who is in charge now how anything to do with infrastructure put in place 50-100+ years ago?
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Post by justme on Mar 27, 2017 10:04:37 GMT -5
Every time I scroll past this post and my brain sees the title it immediately goes
🎵Those poor unfortunate souls🎵
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 27, 2017 12:03:20 GMT -5
You're citing ONE instance- the point of the links to the other contaminated areas was that Flint was probably one of the LEAST of the list. I'd look at the map- see who's running the show where our nation's worst problems exist. In the other cases, what does who is in charge now how anything to do with infrastructure put in place 50-100+ years ago? You're violating the first rule of holes. It's weak point to blame the first Republican in half a century for the problems in Flint. And where was Obama for the last 3 years? Trump has designated $100 million to fix the infrastructure problem.
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Post by 973beachbum on Mar 27, 2017 12:24:18 GMT -5
In the other cases, what does who is in charge now how anything to do with infrastructure put in place 50-100+ years ago? You're violating the first rule of holes. It's weak point to blame the first Republican in half a century for the problems in Flint. And where was Obama for the last 3 years? Trump has designated $100 million to fix the infrastructure problem. But not the problems we're talking about. These would be through the EPA which got gutted. I don't find any political fault with the people who caused the problems. They didn't know what they were doing would cause the harm it is. The politicians today who not even pretending to fix the it I totally hold responsible!
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 27, 2017 12:42:47 GMT -5
In the other cases, what does who is in charge now how anything to do with infrastructure put in place 50-100+ years ago? You're violating the first rule of holes. It's weak point to blame the first Republican in half a century for the problems in Flint. And where was Obama for the last 3 years? Trump has designated $100 million to fix the infrastructure problem. I don't blame Governor Snyder for the lead in the pipes in the first place. I blame him for installing an Emergency manager without the foresight to ask the people in charge of the water system why things were done the way they were up to that point, and what consequences there might be to the changes proposed before it happened and people were poisoned.. You know, questions you'd expect a good manager to ask.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Mar 27, 2017 13:49:45 GMT -5
I don't think it was mainly luck that got me here. But I do recognize it had a role in it.
I also think part it is recognizing opportunities when they arise fortuitously. It's completely luck of the draw about when some opportunities arise. It's good choices/self confidence that allow you to act on those opportunities.
I'd also be lying if I didn't recognize "who you know" as part of my success, which I attribute to luck. Part of the reason I got my first job as an ADA is that the DA knows my family (his gf and my gf were buddies, my aunt babysat him) and is really good friends with my BFF's much older siblings. Obviously I interviewed well, but I got the interview because he knew who I was. I didn't have any experience and was fresh out of law school, but he was willing to take a chance on me.
Once I got that job, I ran with it. You've mentioned this example before. But let's play it out - let's say you didn't get that ADA job. Would you still be a lawyer? Would you still be making money? Would you still not be in a good place financially right now? The thing is, people who want to accomplish things - do. People who don't want to accomplish things - don't. There is really only one thing that I can think of that can derail life so badly that you might not recover - illness. Everything is else is a choice or excuse. And may be 100 yrs ago, if you were born into poverty, there was little you can do. But today?? Please! Information is there, it really is. You can use it or ignore it, but people have choices.
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Post by swamp on Mar 27, 2017 13:55:55 GMT -5
I don't think it was mainly luck that got me here. But I do recognize it had a role in it.
I also think part it is recognizing opportunities when they arise fortuitously. It's completely luck of the draw about when some opportunities arise. It's good choices/self confidence that allow you to act on those opportunities.
I'd also be lying if I didn't recognize "who you know" as part of my success, which I attribute to luck. Part of the reason I got my first job as an ADA is that the DA knows my family (his gf and my gf were buddies, my aunt babysat him) and is really good friends with my BFF's much older siblings. Obviously I interviewed well, but I got the interview because he knew who I was. I didn't have any experience and was fresh out of law school, but he was willing to take a chance on me.
Once I got that job, I ran with it. You've mentioned this example before. But let's play it out - let's say you didn't get that ADA job. Would you still be a lawyer? Would you still be making money? Would you still not be in a good place financially right now? The thing is, people who want to accomplish things - do. People who don't want to accomplish things - don't. There is really only one thing that I can think of that can derail life so badly that you might not recover - illness. Everything is else is a choice or excuse. And may be 100 yrs ago, if you were born into poverty, there was little you can do. But today?? Please! Information is there, it really is. You can use it or ignore it, but people have choices. I'd probably still be a lawyer, but I don't think I would be in the same place. My career would have progressed much slower.
The experience I got in a small DA's office is priceless. I had more responsibltity and was responsible for more serious cases that had I been in a bigger office. I am known for being able to piece together information very quickly (on the fly) for a hearing, and doing some pretty decent cross examination. I also know the rules of evidence pretty well.
From the skills and connections I got as ADA, it allowed me to become chief public defender at 29. Then I was able to join a firm in town to replace a retiring partner. The remaining partner tried a case against me when I was ADA. He was really impressed with my ability to keep myself composed when trying the piece of shit I was handed.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 27, 2017 15:01:32 GMT -5
I don't think it was mainly luck that got me here. But I do recognize it had a role in it.
I also think part it is recognizing opportunities when they arise fortuitously. It's completely luck of the draw about when some opportunities arise. It's good choices/self confidence that allow you to act on those opportunities.
I'd also be lying if I didn't recognize "who you know" as part of my success, which I attribute to luck. Part of the reason I got my first job as an ADA is that the DA knows my family (his gf and my gf were buddies, my aunt babysat him) and is really good friends with my BFF's much older siblings. Obviously I interviewed well, but I got the interview because he knew who I was. I didn't have any experience and was fresh out of law school, but he was willing to take a chance on me.
Once I got that job, I ran with it. You've mentioned this example before. But let's play it out - let's say you didn't get that ADA job. Would you still be a lawyer? Would you still be making money? Would you still not be in a good place financially right now? The thing is, people who want to accomplish things - do. People who don't want to accomplish things - don't. There is really only one thing that I can think of that can derail life so badly that you might not recover - illness. Everything is else is a choice or excuse. And may be 100 yrs ago, if you were born into poverty, there was little you can do. But today?? Please! Information is there, it really is. You can use it or ignore it, but people have choices. Exactamundo. Even illness can be an excuse- with obvious exceptions (like short term terminal illness).
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Post by midjd on Mar 27, 2017 15:42:53 GMT -5
There are many studies that show graduating during a recession can have an impact on your lifetime earnings, all other factors being equal. (Here's one: www.nber.org/digest/nov06/w12159.html) Certainly not impossible to overcome (and the study confirms that), but also not quite the same as "everyone has exactly the same opportunities."
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