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Post by jkapp on May 27, 2016 13:49:30 GMT -5
Well, when a woman cheats its somehow always the husband's fault, so unless we are ok to treat the sexes differently, then fault should go the other way, too how is it the wife's responsibility, jk? The same way its the husband's responsibility when the wife cheats...I guess. I don't know, I'm not a woman, so I will never understand their "logic" on things.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 27, 2016 13:49:44 GMT -5
actually, if you read the article, it makes perfect sense. is it GOOD? hell no! Well, bittersweet, really. This may be one election that the news media can't manipulate - which would be a very good thing.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 27, 2016 13:50:26 GMT -5
how is it the wife's responsibility, jk? The same way its the husband's responsibility when the wife cheats...I guess. I don't know, I'm not a woman, so I will never understand their "logic" on things. good. glad you don't know. neither do i. but apparently DT seems to think that there is a compelling argument in there, somewhere.
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Post by jkapp on May 27, 2016 13:52:03 GMT -5
Well, bittersweet, really. This may be one election that the news media can't manipulate - which would be a very good thing.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 13:54:01 GMT -5
how is it the wife's responsibility, jk? The same way its the husband's responsibility when the wife cheats...I guess. I don't know, I'm not a woman, so I will never understand their "logic" on things. Logic ? Women don't have no stinkin' logic. It's all mixed up crazy in there. Same way this countries going to go if HC wins.
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Post by happyhoix on May 27, 2016 14:38:38 GMT -5
here is the logical test: is a man's infidelity in ANY WAY the responsibility of the wife? you have to have a certain perspective to answer yes to that. what % of the US public has that perspective? Well, when a woman cheats its somehow always the husband's fault, so unless we are ok to treat the sexes differently, then fault should go the other way, too We must not be living in the same universe.
I've known plenty of women caught cheating and given their walking papers, can't recall a single time she was convincingly able to blame it on the DH.
I'm sure they try, just like men try to blame the mean, frigid wife when they get caught with their pants down, but that argument generally doesn't fly for either sex, in my experience.
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Post by happyhoix on May 27, 2016 14:41:55 GMT -5
The same way its the husband's responsibility when the wife cheats...I guess. I don't know, I'm not a woman, so I will never understand their "logic" on things. Logic ? Women don't have no stinkin' logic. It's all mixed up crazy in there. Same way this countries going to go if HC wins. Yes, because all the male presidents we've had have always done such a stellar job because, you know - the penis thing. Certainly a human with no penis could never hope to do as well as any of them have.
Jkapp you're sounding like a member of the he-man woman haters club today.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 27, 2016 14:56:16 GMT -5
The same way its the husband's responsibility when the wife cheats...I guess. I don't know, I'm not a woman, so I will never understand their "logic" on things. Logic ? Women don't have no stinkin' logic. It's all mixed up crazy in there. Same way this countries going to go if HC wins. with an attitude like that, you could be president!
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Post by djAdvocate on May 27, 2016 14:58:54 GMT -5
Logic ? Women don't have no stinkin' logic. It's all mixed up crazy in there. Same way this countries going to go if HC wins. Yes, because all the male presidents we've had have always done such a stellar job because, you know - the penis thing. Certainly a human with no penis could never hope to do as well as any of them have.
Jkapp you're sounding like a member of the he-man woman haters club today.
men have done a fine job of fucking everything up for a good long while, imo. your turn.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 21:22:20 GMT -5
Logic ? Women don't have no stinkin' logic. It's all mixed up crazy in there. Same way this countries going to go if HC wins. Yes, because all the male presidents we've had have always done such a stellar job because, you know - the penis thing. Certainly a human with no penis could never hope to do as well as any of them have.
Jkapp you're sounding like a member of the he-man woman haters club today.
Nahhh... more likely an Al Bundy appointee to "NO MA'AM" ... because they have shirts and everything...
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Post by djAdvocate on May 27, 2016 23:10:09 GMT -5
disclaimer: i don't believe a single thing that Rasmussen polls. NOTHING. they are the suckiest pollster out there. they had about 6% error and 4% bias in the last election cycle, and got way more close races wrong than they got right. way more.
however, their latest poll shows Trump losing 6% in the last (6) days against Clinton.
obviously, i don't believe it. but i post it for the information of those that trust Rasmussen, still.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 11:19:55 GMT -5
Logic ? Women don't have no stinkin' logic. It's all mixed up crazy in there. Same way this countries going to go if HC wins. Yes, because all the male presidents we've had have always done such a stellar job because, you know - the penis thing. Certainly a human with no penis could never hope to do as well as any of them have.
Jkapp you're sounding like a member of the he-man woman haters club today.
When I was a little boy, my dad told me that men were better. He said it had nothing to do with the sex parts, but more of a ability to think logically and not let emotions cloud important issues. My mom never entered the discussion because it was not held in the kitchen, where she was always kept in the daytime, with no shoes of course.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 11:30:56 GMT -5
disclaimer: i don't believe a single thing that Rasmussen polls. NOTHING. they are the suckiest pollster out there. they showed about 6% bias in the last election cycle, and got way more close races wrong than they got right. way more. however, their latest poll shows Trump losing 6% in the last (6) days against Clinton. obviously, i don't believe it. but i post it for the information of those that trust Rasmussen, still. I will post things that show things going the way I like. Even if it's from a source I loathe. I throw in a disclaimer, and do it for the sake of everyone here.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 11:32:57 GMT -5
Yes, because all the male presidents we've had have always done such a stellar job because, you know - the penis thing. Certainly a human with no penis could never hope to do as well as any of them have.
Jkapp you're sounding like a member of the he-man woman haters club today.
Nahhh... more likely an Al Bundy appointee to "NO MA'AM" ... because they have shirts and everything... I can wear it under my KKK uniform.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 11:41:13 GMT -5
Logic ? Women don't have no stinkin' logic. It's all mixed up crazy in there. Same way this countries going to go if HC wins. with an attitude like that, you could be president! When I was little, my dad always said I could be president one day. I always thought he should be president, since he had the correct attitude on keeping the women under control.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 11:47:09 GMT -5
Well, when a woman cheats its somehow always the husband's fault, so unless we are ok to treat the sexes differently, then fault should go the other way, too We must not be living in the same universe.
I've known plenty of women caught cheating and given their walking papers, can't recall a single time she was convincingly able to blame it on the DH.
I'm sure they try, just like men try to blame the mean, frigid wife when they get caught with their pants down, but that argument generally doesn't fly for either sex, in my experience.
And yet "every" woman who I've known who got caught cheating, tried to blame it on her husband. You weren't there for me... your at work all the time... Your not interested in me anymore... you don't care about the kids... All you do is watch football and drink beer... etc...etc...etc...
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Post by zibazinski on May 28, 2016 11:58:27 GMT -5
Shoot, with DH and his ex this was true. He basically only came home at night late even on weekends. Buried himself in work bcuz he didn't want to be around her. Then was shocked that she fooled around and filed for divorce.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 12:04:52 GMT -5
Shoot, with DH and his ex this was true. He basically only came home at night late even on weekends. Buried himself in work bcuz he didn't want to be around her. Then was shocked that she fooled around and filed for divorce. He shouldn't of been shocked. Making money and supporting is a good thing, but it doesn't mean anything if the relationship is neglected due to just not being there. (Thanks for getting that my previous posts were humor)
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Post by djAdvocate on May 28, 2016 21:00:20 GMT -5
disclaimer: i don't believe a single thing that Rasmussen polls. NOTHING. they are the suckiest pollster out there. they showed about 6% bias in the last election cycle, and got way more close races wrong than they got right. way more. however, their latest poll shows Trump losing 6% in the last (6) days against Clinton. obviously, i don't believe it. but i post it for the information of those that trust Rasmussen, still. I will post things that show things going the way I like. Even if it's from a source I loathe. I throw in a disclaimer, and do it for the sake of everyone here. shame on you. i would never do that.
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Post by happyhoix on May 31, 2016 6:32:24 GMT -5
We must not be living in the same universe.
I've known plenty of women caught cheating and given their walking papers, can't recall a single time she was convincingly able to blame it on the DH.
I'm sure they try, just like men try to blame the mean, frigid wife when they get caught with their pants down, but that argument generally doesn't fly for either sex, in my experience.
And yet "every" woman who I've known who got caught cheating, tried to blame it on her husband. You weren't there for me... your at work all the time... Your not interested in me anymore... you don't care about the kids... All you do is watch football and drink beer... etc...etc...etc... Well, of course they're going to blame it on someone. Male cheaters do the exact same thing - she was frigid in bed. She was mean. She complained about me all the time. She can't cook. She didn't like my dog. She redecorated the whole house and sent my favorite chair to the .
However - in most situations, male or female, the rest of us know the cheater was just looking for some strange and got caught, then tried to whine and wiggle their way into it not being their fault. Women don't get some magical pass when they behave badly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 11:30:14 GMT -5
And yet "every" woman who I've known who got caught cheating, tried to blame it on her husband. You weren't there for me... your at work all the time... Your not interested in me anymore... you don't care about the kids... All you do is watch football and drink beer... etc...etc...etc... Well, of course they're going to blame it on someone. Male cheaters do the exact same thing - she was frigid in bed. She was mean. She complained about me all the time. She can't cook. She didn't like my dog. She redecorated the whole house and sent my favorite chair to the .
However - in most situations, male or female, the rest of us know the cheater was just looking for some strange and got caught, then tried to whine and wiggle their way into it not being their fault. Women don't get some magical pass when they behave badly.
Male cheaters do not do the same thing. They own up to their obvious mistake and do everything they can to repair the relationship. It's the woman who is demanding and unreasonable in these situations, even when they get caught looking for a little action on the side. In every situation that I've ever seen, it's always the women who "whine and wiggle their way into it not being their fault". Going by what I'm reading in your posts, you don't seem to have much exposure to a lot of people, which would show you the fact that the female is mostly at fault in this type of situation. My observation from the superior intellect position is the correct one.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 1, 2016 11:33:47 GMT -5
we finally got a new national poll from Quinnipiac. and it is relatively good news for Clinton.
it shows her +4%, about even with polling error. here is the history of this poll since Trump entered the race (all favoring Clinton):
5/30 +4 3/21 +6 2/15 +1 2/4 +5 12/20 +7 11/30 +6 11/2 +3 9/21 +2 8/25 +4
i wanted to show the history to illustrate how remarkably stable these numbers are. in fact, if you take 4% as the median, EVERY ONE OF THESE POLLS IS WITHIN MOE.
one other point: Quinnipiac is a high-quality pollster, unlike Rasmussen. THIS one, i would bank on for accuracy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 12:22:22 GMT -5
we finally got a new national poll from Quinnipiac. and it is relatively good news for Clinton. it shows her +4%, about even with polling error. here is the history of this poll since Trump entered the race (all favoring Clinton): 5/30 +4 3/21 +6 2/15 +1 2/4 +5 12/20 +7 11/30 +6 11/2 +3 9/21 +2 8/25 +4 i wanted to show the history to illustrate how remarkably stable these numbers are. in fact, if you take 4% as the median, EVERY ONE OF THESE POLLS IS WITHIN MOE. one other point: Quinnipiac is a high-quality pollster, unlike Rasmussen. THIS one, i would bank on for accuracy. Rasmussen is the high quality pollster, unlike Quinnipiac. Another opinion.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 1, 2016 12:38:59 GMT -5
we finally got a new national poll from Quinnipiac. and it is relatively good news for Clinton. it shows her +4%, about even with polling error. here is the history of this poll since Trump entered the race (all favoring Clinton): 5/30 +4 3/21 +6 2/15 +1 2/4 +5 12/20 +7 11/30 +6 11/2 +3 9/21 +2 8/25 +4 i wanted to show the history to illustrate how remarkably stable these numbers are. in fact, if you take 4% as the median, EVERY ONE OF THESE POLLS IS WITHIN MOE. one other point: Quinnipiac is a high-quality pollster, unlike Rasmussen. THIS one, i would bank on for accuracy. Rasmussen is the high quality pollster, unlike Quinnipiac. Another opinion. an opinion that is provably false. i have posted the proof many many times. edit: but if you want to go on believing otherwise, be my guest. they just reported that Clinton is up 6% in the last week.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 12:43:37 GMT -5
Rasmussen is the high quality pollster, unlike Quinnipiac. Another opinion. an opinion that is provably false. i have posted the proof many many times. Uh huh.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Jun 1, 2016 23:00:20 GMT -5
It's been an interesting turn around.
A month or so ago, all the pundits were speculating that the GOP nomination would be a fight right up to the convention and the GOP would remain fractured. Instead, Trump has sewn up the nomination and the GOP is more or less coming to terms with it. The #never Trump never really got off the ground.
On the other side, Hillary is still fighting the nomination with Bernie. Although she's sure to win, she's still fighting Bernie instead of Trump, and she's continually dogged by the e-mail scandal, and likely will continue to be up until the election.
Some in the democrat camp are actually starting to get worried, whereas before they were hoping Trump would win the nomination because then it'd supposedly be a landslide victory for Clinton.
It'd still say Clinton is probably the more likely winner, but I think it's within the realm of possibility for Trump to win. Clinton just seems gaffe prone and has historic lows in likability and trustworthiness ratings. At her core, I just don't think she's a people person.
Trump has his work cut out for him. A lot of people hold a unfavorable or fearful view of trump. He's going to have to do a lot to set people more at ease with the idea of a Trump presidency. But he's proven himself a master showman, so it's possible.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 2, 2016 8:25:35 GMT -5
No, he stated some in that category are delusional. “We all need to recognize that white, non-college-educated Americans have seen great drops in their income, have seen great increases in their unemployment rate, have seen drops in their life expectancy, and they need to be brought along to the future. But they can’t live under the illusion that you can reclaim a past which is just that — past. This country is always about the future,” Clinton said.
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