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Post by rick on Jan 24, 2011 17:06:35 GMT -5
But after some reading today by some posters. I'm starting to believe that I really do
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Post by thyme4change on Jan 24, 2011 17:09:07 GMT -5
1 million abortions per year, and we still get the wrong people.
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Post by Loopdilou on Jan 24, 2011 17:09:19 GMT -5
Rick - that's not even funny.
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Post by rick on Jan 24, 2011 17:18:39 GMT -5
Its not meant to be funny
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Post by Loopdilou on Jan 24, 2011 17:20:02 GMT -5
Well that's good. Because it's a subject that deserves serious consideration and shouldn't be joked about.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jan 24, 2011 18:27:08 GMT -5
It's a free country.
Personally, I'm pro-death though. And yes, I'm comfortable enough with my beliefs to call it death instead of choice. If the choice is between life and death then you're either pro-life or pro-death. Have the balls to say it.
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Post by steff on Jan 24, 2011 18:27:29 GMT -5
I am also pro marriage and think that some people need to learn the correct order - fall in love, get married, plan for a child, then have a child.
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been married 17 years, was knocked up when I got married. The order we did things in didn't matter, the fact that we're still together after 17 years is proof enough that the order doesn't matter. Who says shotgun weddings can't last!
I also have a friend that divorced her abusive first hubby, then 2 years later opted to have a child on her own.... when her son was 10 years old, she found a decent guy and married him. He has done more for her & her son than her first husband would have ever done and more than the "baby daddy" ever did. The order didn't matter....the fact that she loved her son and eventually found a man she could love forever is proof of that too.
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Post by Loopdilou on Jan 24, 2011 18:30:22 GMT -5
It's a free country. Personally, I'm pro-death though. And yes, I'm comfortable enough with my beliefs to call it death instead of choice. If the choice is between life and death then you're either pro-life or pro-death. Have the balls to say it. Agreed. I am totally willing to admit I murder living things.. Every day. Just yesterday I killed a mosquito.. that little bastard.
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Post by steff on Jan 24, 2011 18:32:35 GMT -5
Pro choice and Pro death penalty. Yesterday I killed a spider for daring to walk across the bathroom floor. And if any of his little friends want to try it, I'll kill them too!
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Post by suzwantstobefree on Jan 24, 2011 18:33:48 GMT -5
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Post by steff on Jan 24, 2011 18:37:16 GMT -5
Had they fallen in love and then gotten married and planned a child they probably wouldn't have had a child with the person they did
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If I hadn't gotten knocked up, odds are I wouldn't have married my hubby. In the end, we're perfect for each other and have made it a success. Life hands everyone something different to deal with. "marriage" doesn't automatically mean "perfect situation to have a baby in" anymore than "single" means "you're life will suck eternally if you have a child without being married first"
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Post by suzwantstobefree on Jan 24, 2011 18:49:01 GMT -5
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Post by chiver78 on Jan 24, 2011 19:15:24 GMT -5
I am also pro marriage and think that some people need to learn the correct order - fall in love, get married, plan for a child, then have a child. ************************************************ been married 17 years, was knocked up when I got married. The order we did things in didn't matter, the fact that we're still together after 17 years is proof enough that the order doesn't matter. Who says shotgun weddings can't last! I also have a friend that divorced her abusive first hubby, then 2 years later opted to have a child on her own.... when her son was 10 years old, she found a decent guy and married him. He has done more for her & her son than her first husband would have ever done and more than the "baby daddy" ever did. The order didn't matter....the fact that she loved her son and eventually found a man she could love forever is proof of that too. There are always exceptions and I am glad yours worked out great for you. Many of my friends are not as lucky and have struggled with trying to raise children on their own. Had they fallen in love and then gotten married and planned a child they probably wouldn't have had a child with the person they did. if you understand that there are exceptions, why do you feel that there needs to be a rule? I'm honestly just curious. I'm sorry your friends are struggling, but there are married couples that struggle as well as single parents that are OK. I don't get why some people feel that marriage is a pre-requisite to having children. when done correctly, it really does take a "village" to raise a child anyway.
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Post by rick on Jan 24, 2011 20:00:37 GMT -5
And it looks like it should have been cleansed years ago
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Post by Cookies Galore on Jan 24, 2011 20:07:52 GMT -5
There are always exceptions and I am glad yours worked out great for you. Many of my friends are not as lucky and have struggled with trying to raise children on their own. Had they fallen in love and then gotten married and planned a child they probably wouldn't have had a child with the person they did. if you understand that there are exceptions, why do you feel that there needs to be a rule? I'm honestly just curious. I'm sorry your friends are struggling, but there are married couples that struggle as well as single parents that are OK. I don't get why some people feel that marriage is a pre-requisite to having children. when done correctly, it really does take a "village" to raise a child anyway. Exactly, chiver. My sister and BIL were together for 10 years when they decided to get married. They also had a five-year-old and a four-month-old, and had just bought a house, before they even considered marriage. BF and I may or may not get married, but we definitely won't be having kids. The trajectories we choose mean nothing to others if we are living the best life we can. Life is one big exception, why bog yourself down with with a be-all, end-all rule?
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Post by Loopdilou on Jan 24, 2011 20:11:02 GMT -5
Rick, it sounds an awful lot like you're calling for genocide. You sure you want to do that, buddy?
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Post by rick on Jan 24, 2011 20:13:48 GMT -5
Rick, it sounds an awful lot like you're calling for genocide. You sure you want to do that, buddy? No not at all, just quantifying the reasoning for abortion
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Post by Loopdilou on Jan 24, 2011 20:17:24 GMT -5
No, you're not. You're being insulting to every mother who took the choice seriously. You're also suggesting that people in this thread should have been aborted. Or if not people in this thread, other people who you have deemed too stupid to be in the gene pool or something.
Though the modern birth control movement was pushed by Eugenicists, birth control has existed every since some woman accidentally ate some plant and then didn't have a baby. It is not a tool for purifying the human race.
Especially since most studies have shown that the intelligence of the parents has little bearing on the intelligence of the child (at least genetically).
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Post by suzwantstobefree on Jan 24, 2011 20:17:42 GMT -5
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Post by chiver78 on Jan 24, 2011 20:18:40 GMT -5
Rick, it sounds an awful lot like you're calling for genocide. You sure you want to do that, buddy? No not at all, just quantifying the reasoning for abortion why? why would you try to quantify the reasoning for this medical procedure, just for kicks, over any other medical procedure? are you looking to improve the overall living conditions of any woman inclined to choose an abortion? by this, I mean removing poverty, abuse, rape, incest, disease, health threats to the mother, and horrific deformities? people that quantify various medical procedures are generally employed by charities and research organizations whose missions include efforts to minimize the need for those medical procedures. what is your purpose?
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Post by rick on Jan 24, 2011 20:20:41 GMT -5
I have no purpose, just like any other thread on here. It stirs debate
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Post by chiver78 on Jan 24, 2011 20:24:57 GMT -5
It takes two people to conceive a child, why does it seem as though there shouldn't be two people raising said child? again, when done correctly, it's more than just the parents raising a child.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 20:26:26 GMT -5
nothing like dead babies to help relax after a day at work.
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Post by verrip1 on Jan 24, 2011 20:29:43 GMT -5
Being pro-death, I'd say people shouldn't fook with me. Unless they're willing to accept the consequences.
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Post by chiver78 on Jan 24, 2011 20:30:18 GMT -5
nothing like dead babies to help relax after a day at work. that's a little different than my initial reaction to this thread. of course, that initial reaction would have gotten me instantly banned for a couple days.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 20:30:20 GMT -5
Being pro-death, I'd say people shouldn't fook with me. Unless they're willing to accept the consequences. The Dude doesn't have it in him.
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Post by suzwantstobefree on Jan 24, 2011 20:47:25 GMT -5
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Post by Loopdilou on Jan 24, 2011 20:49:18 GMT -5
Weird. My Mom was a kindergarten teacher for 40 years and I never once heard her complain about kids like that.
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