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Post by ed1066 on Jul 13, 2011 15:40:04 GMT -5
This left-wing columnist discusses the fear among the Dems over Michele Bachmann's appeal to Americans and her recent success in the polls. I think Bachmann's future will come down to what the left-wing mainstream media are willing to do to discredit her. In the run up to the 2004 election, Dan Rather sacrificed his long and (allegedly) distinguished journalism career on the altar of Bush-hatred with the fake National Guard memos. It didn't work, but one wonders what tricks the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party (i.e. the national media) have up their sleeves... www.salon.com/news/2012_elections/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/07/13/bachmann_2012Michele Bachmann is now running in second place nationally among Republican presidential candidates, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday. And she's moved into the lead in Iowa and is second to Mitt Romney in New Hampshire (possibly by a close margin, possibly not). At least for now, there is no sign of her momentum slowing.
It's possible to interpret Bachmann's surge as a fleeting early-summer phenomenon. The explosion on her poll numbers and media visibility can be traced to her breakout performance at the first major GOP debate, just over a month ago. Whatever you think of the substance of her comments that night, Bachmann showed far more poise and polish than many had been expecting, and the positive reviews helped generate enthusiasm among a Republican base that has been yearning for someone, anyone, to get excited about.
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Post by chiver78 on Jul 13, 2011 15:43:48 GMT -5
is this akin to all those "the left fears Sarah Palin" type articles and posts?
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jul 13, 2011 15:46:49 GMT -5
This left-wing columnist discusses the fear among the Dems over Michele Bachmann's appeal to Americans and her recent success in the polls. [/blockquote][/quote] In your dreams eddie. If anything, the right wing establishment fears Bachmann, not the left.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 13, 2011 15:47:29 GMT -5
The left fears Michelle Bachmann
Oh really?? I think the right would be more fearful because if Michele should win the republican presidential nomination by beating Romney, it would be a free ride for Obama's second tour into the White House again for another rough four years...
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Post by ed1066 on Jul 13, 2011 15:47:31 GMT -5
This left-wing columnist discusses the fear among the Dems over Michele Bachmann's appeal to Americans and her recent success in the polls. [/blockquote][/quote] In your dreams eddie. If anything, the right wing establishment fears Bachmann, not the left. [/quote] Did you read the article?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 13, 2011 15:50:19 GMT -5
fear her? i think she is awesome. she may replace Orly Taitz as my favourite right wing birther nutbag.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 13, 2011 15:52:33 GMT -5
I think Michele has a rough road to hoe ed....she needs to hit some home runs in the next year and one half and do well in the upcoming republicans debates and I am not too sure she can bring it all home...
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Post by ed1066 on Jul 13, 2011 15:54:50 GMT -5
We'll see, but the fear on the left and in the media is palpable. Maybe Katie Couric will put on the Dan Rather Memorial Career Suicide Vest this time around...
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 13, 2011 15:55:33 GMT -5
In your dreams eddie. If anything, the right wing establishment fears Bachmann, not the left. Did you read the article? I did. No "fear" was expressed. It was simply an analysis, using historical examples, of the possibility of her maintaining viability as the potential nominee for the Republican Party.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 13, 2011 16:01:29 GMT -5
Hey C'mon now guys " did you eat your peas?" or how about " Give Peas A Chance" and my favorite from our President " Time to take off the Band Aid".....nothing like a strong leader during a potential economic and financial crisis..
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 13, 2011 16:11:36 GMT -5
We'll see, but the fear on the left and in the media is palpable. Maybe Katie Couric will put on the Dan Rather Memorial Career Suicide Vest this time around... ed- no disrespect, but there are many liberals out there shedding their atheism to PRAY that Michelle wins the nomination. and no, i didn't read the article.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jul 13, 2011 16:37:16 GMT -5
In your dreams eddie. If anything, the right wing establishment fears Bachmann, not the left. Did you read the article? Yes
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 13, 2011 16:58:55 GMT -5
the answer on my Romney thread is in: it is Bachmann.
she just moved into second.
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Post by cereb on Jul 13, 2011 17:01:47 GMT -5
We'll see, but the fear on the left and in the media is palpable. Maybe Katie Couric will put on the Dan Rather Memorial Career Suicide Vest this time around... You wish.
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 13, 2011 18:25:48 GMT -5
Heh. The left-leaning parts of me don't fear the likes of Bachmann in the slightest. The worst thing the Republican party could do to itself is put that woman up as its candidate of choice. If it does so (which I don't believe it will) it's committing suicide. She's not frightening. She's pitiable.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 13, 2011 19:23:42 GMT -5
This left-wing columnist discusses the fear among the Dems over Michele Bachmann's appeal to Americans and her recent success in the polls. [/blockquote][/quote] In your dreams eddie. If anything, the right wing establishment fears Bachmann, not the left. [/quote] You mean the RINO establishment, I presume. Yes, they do fear her, and for the same reasons the rest of the statist-quo (not a misspelling, btw) fears her.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 13, 2011 19:33:24 GMT -5
Heh. The left-leaning parts of me don't fear the likes of Bachmann in the slightest. The worst thing the Republican party could do to itself is put that woman up as its candidate of choice. If it does so (which I don't believe it will) it's committing suicide. She's not frightening. She's pitiable. This is the standard line from the left. And everytime the Republican establishment starts taking advice on political positioning from the left, they either lose or we get an impotent candidate that wins a squeaker. Consider the following options: 1. Ford- or Reagan? 2. Bush 41- or Reagan? 3. Dole- or Reagan? 4. Bush 43- or Reagan? 5. McCain- or Reagan? We need the candidate that is most like Reagan. We do not need to take our advice on how to win elections from our opponents. The fact that you all keep trying to give us advice is a sure fire sign you fear Bachmann. Whenever Democrats cross party lines in primaries- it's to vote RINO. If Dems thought Bachmann or Palin were the true threats to the Republican Party they say they are, they'd be doing everything in their power to get them nominated. The fact is that a firebrand conservative (like Reagan) would DESTROY Obama in 2012. A RINO this time out- a Dole, a Bush, a Ford type will almost guarantee a conservative 3rd party / independent conservative candidate and an Obama victory. That's the real reason Democrats fear Bachmann. We get a real conservative, it kills the Dems third party dreams.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jul 13, 2011 19:39:03 GMT -5
Heh. The left-leaning parts of me don't fear the likes of Bachmann in the slightest. The worst thing the Republican party could do to itself is put that woman up as its candidate of choice. If it does so (which I don't believe it will) it's committing suicide. She's not frightening. She's pitiable. This is the standard line from the left. And everytime the Republican establishment starts taking advice on political positioning from the left, they either lose or we get an impotent candidate that wins a squeaker. Consider the following options: 1. Ford- or Reagan? 2. Bush 41- or Reagan? 3. Dole- or Reagan? 4. Bush 43- or Reagan? 5. McCain- or Reagan? We need the candidate that is most like Reagan. We do not need to take our advice on how to win elections from our opponents. The fact that you all keep trying to give us advice is a sure fire sign you fear Bachmann. Whenever Democrats cross party lines in primaries- it's to vote RINO. If Dems thought Bachmann or Palin were the true threats to the Republican Party they say they are, they'd be doing everything in their power to get them nominated. The fact is that a firebrand conservative (like Reagan) would DESTROY Obama in 2012. A RINO this time out- a Dole, a Bush, a Ford type will almost guarantee a conservative 3rd party / independent conservative candidate and an Obama victory. That's the real reason Democrats fear Bachmann. We get a real conservative, it kills the Dems third party dreams. So you are saying that Bachmann is like Reagan?
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Post by chiver78 on Jul 13, 2011 19:41:47 GMT -5
We need the candidate that is most like Reagan The fact that you all keep trying to give us advice is a sure fire sign you fear Bachmann. wow......if you think Bachmann is the next coming of ol' Ronnie......wow. I don't know where to even start with that.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jul 13, 2011 19:44:57 GMT -5
And who is giving anyone "advice" regarding the republican candidate? I was stating my opinion that if anyone fears Bachmann, it is the right wing establishment. I think the right does want a candidate who would be comparable to Reagan, in order to defeat Obama. Bachmann is no Reagan.
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 13, 2011 19:51:48 GMT -5
Oh, my! In that case, paul, I do hope you get your wish. I still doubt Bachmann will be the Republican candidate, but I'll cheer for you anyway.
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Post by zipity on Jul 13, 2011 20:29:49 GMT -5
Bachmann may be the perfect candidate if the pubs allow the country to default on its debt. Bachmann as de facto leader of the tea party might as well take the heat. The pubs are proving now that they don't want to reduce the deficit, they want only want to reduce spending on dem supported programs. If the debt ceiling isn't raised and the country defaults, the pubs don't stand a chance in 2012 so Bachmann is as good a scape goat as any, like McCain was in 2008.
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Post by ed1066 on Jul 13, 2011 20:38:15 GMT -5
That and the fact that every lib on the board is emphatically taking the time to post how much they DON'T fear Bachmann. You think we can't tell you're whistling past the graveyard?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 13, 2011 20:46:47 GMT -5
This is the standard line from the left. And everytime the Republican establishment starts taking advice on political positioning from the left, they either lose or we get an impotent candidate that wins a squeaker. Consider the following options: 1. Ford- or Reagan? 2. Bush 41- or Reagan? 3. Dole- or Reagan? 4. Bush 43- or Reagan? 5. McCain- or Reagan? We need the candidate that is most like Reagan. We do not need to take our advice on how to win elections from our opponents. The fact that you all keep trying to give us advice is a sure fire sign you fear Bachmann. Whenever Democrats cross party lines in primaries- it's to vote RINO. If Dems thought Bachmann or Palin were the true threats to the Republican Party they say they are, they'd be doing everything in their power to get them nominated. The fact is that a firebrand conservative (like Reagan) would DESTROY Obama in 2012. A RINO this time out- a Dole, a Bush, a Ford type will almost guarantee a conservative 3rd party / independent conservative candidate and an Obama victory. That's the real reason Democrats fear Bachmann. We get a real conservative, it kills the Dems third party dreams. So you are saying that Bachmann is like Reagan? I don't know enough about her yet to be honest. So far, so good though. She strikes me as a straight-shooting conservative.
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Post by zipity on Jul 13, 2011 20:52:10 GMT -5
That and the fact that every lib on the board is emphatically taking the time to post how much they DON'T fear Bachmann. You think we can't tell you're whistling past the graveyard?
Interesting logic, by the same token every conservative here goes on and on about how Obama doesn't stand a chance in 2012. Using your own logic I guess that tells us a lot about who you think is going to win.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jul 13, 2011 21:13:01 GMT -5
ed, I am ashamed to say I know zilch about the lady..beyond her name..so will do some investigating so I can be one of those lefts who are quivering in my boots...sorry to disappointment on your thoughts.. --------------------------- whew..just finished the wicki ed...I am not that familiar with her ed because there is little there for me to be interested in..as far as ideas, her thoughts, supporting her issues, and her gaffs are one after another and it seems she is apologizing or claiming so many have her statements are not what she really means..to consider her as a POTUS and being so misinterpreted would really cause the nation to be in trouble.. I will pay more attention to her though ed, because it looks like she is making a concerted effort for this nomination, and to be honest ed, if I was a real 120 % die hard on Obama, I am not though for now a supporter, I would welcome her , not as a viable candidate, but one who I would like my candidate to have to compete against, which is a far cry from your thoughts of "The left fears Bachmann "
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jul 13, 2011 22:29:04 GMT -5
That and the fact that every lib on the board is emphatically taking the time to post how much they DON'T fear Bachmann. You think we can't tell you're whistling past the graveyard? eddie, this is a message board. You posted the premise of this thread, and we are commenting on it, that is how a message board works.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jul 13, 2011 22:29:33 GMT -5
That and the fact that every lib on the board is emphatically taking the time to post how much they DON'T fear Bachmann. You think we can't tell you're whistling past the graveyard? Interesting logic, by the same token every conservative here goes on and on about how Obama doesn't stand a chance in 2012. Using your own logic I guess that tells us a lot about who you think is going to win. exactly!
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 13, 2011 22:30:25 GMT -5
It's not only libs posting they don't worry about Bachmann, ed. It's people YOU determine to be libs. You don't have a clue.
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