Should employers be allowed to spank employees?

[NoMoreLunacy]

It was allowed in the feudal age. What do you think? Now that we have established that parents should be allowed to belt their kids, why not employers?

[NoMoreLunacy]

Bingo! So are conservatives on this forum ready for workplace spanking?

[Deleted]

parents should be allowed to belt their kids

I always understood that to belt someone was to hit them with your fist. I guess it might mean different things in different parts of the country.

Now that we have established that parents should be allowed to belt their kids, why not employers?

I think parents should be allowed to discipline their kids in the way that they think best as long as they don't do lasting harm to them. I think parents should fulfill their responsibility to turn out useful well adjusted members of society. If they do less than that (no matter what the reason) then they aren't doing their job.

I also think that the government for the most part needs to get back to governing & keep their nose out of stuff that has nothing to do with governing. To be honest they do such a poor job running this country they just don't need any distractions.
Oh & yes I'll say it: You come into my house & tell me how to raise my child & your likely to find yourself going out without using your feet & at a very fast rate of speed.

[NoMoreLunacy]

That's all very noble and well thought out oldtex but what about employers? Should they have the right to spank their employees if employees misbehave at work?

[Deleted]

Should they have the right to spank their employees if employees misbehave at work?

The right, no of course not unless they were hired by their 7 year old.
The employers should have the right to fire their employees though.

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

...having been in "at will" states, I'd have to say 'yes' on this one... how they'd ever unionize is beyond me, though...

[NoMoreLunacy]

Jun 18, 2011 18:43:38 GMT -5 @oldtex said:

Should they have the right to spank their employees if employees misbehave at work?

The right, no of course not unless they were hired by their 7 year old.
The employers should have the right to fire their employees though.

Don't employers have an obligation to society to turn out productive employees? Shouldn't they be allowed to discipline their employees in the way that they think best as long as they don't do lasting harm to them? If they do less than that (no matter what the reason) then aren't they not doing their job?

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

Jun 18, 2011 18:47:16 GMT -5 NoMoreLunacy said:

Jun 18, 2011 18:43:38 GMT -5 @oldtex said:

Should they have the right to spank their employees if employees misbehave at work?

The right, no of course not unless they were hired by their 7 year old.
The employers should have the right to fire their employees though.

Don't employers have an obligation to society to turn out productive employees? Shouldn't they be allowed to discipline their employees in the way that they think best as long as they don't do lasting harm to them? If they do less than that (no matter what the reason) then aren't they not doing their job?

...no, yes, no... imo...

[NoMoreLunacy]

Jun 18, 2011 18:48:58 GMT -5 BeenThere...DoneThat... said:

Jun 18, 2011 18:47:16 GMT -5 NoMoreLunacy said:

Don't employers have an obligation to society to turn out productive employees? Shouldn't they be allowed to discipline their employees in the way that they think best as long as they don't do lasting harm to them? If they do less than that (no matter what the reason) then aren't they not doing their job?

...no, yes, no... imo...

So, if it is OK to discipline, why is it not OK to spank?

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

Jun 18, 2011 19:42:59 GMT -5 NoMoreLunacy said:

Jun 18, 2011 18:48:58 GMT -5 BeenThere...DoneThat... said:

...no, yes, no... imo...

So, if it is OK to discipline, why is it not OK to spank?

...don't ask me... I said 'yes' to this one...

[Deleted]

Don't employers have an obligation to society to turn out productive employees? Shouldn't they be allowed to discipline their employees in the way that they think best as long as they don't do lasting harm to them? If they do less than that (no matter what the reason) then aren't they not doing their job?

NML I can't believe that you didn't say that "Pimps can so why can't other bosses"?

[formerexpat]

Don't employers have an obligation to society to turn out productive employees?

Employers have no obligation to society as a whole. They have an obligation to their customers - if they want to stay in business [unless they're government sponsored] and they have an obligation to their shareholders.

[❤ mollymouser ❤]

No.

[NoMoreLunacy]

Jun 18, 2011 20:29:52 GMT -5 @oldtex said:

Don't employers have an obligation to society to turn out productive employees? Shouldn't they be allowed to discipline their employees in the way that they think best as long as they don't do lasting harm to them? If they do less than that (no matter what the reason) then aren't they not doing their job?

NML I can't believe that you didn't say that "Pimps can so why can't other bosses"?

Hold on, my next thread was going to be on husbands spanking wives. I hear the good bible encourages that too.

[NoMoreLunacy]

Jun 18, 2011 20:57:55 GMT -5 formerexpat said:

Don't employers have an obligation to society to turn out productive employees?

Employers have no obligation to society as a whole. They have an obligation to their customers - if they want to stay in business [unless they're government sponsored] and they have an obligation to their shareholders.

OK, but what if they can't meet these obligations because of employee issues. We have already established that disciplining employees is OK. My question is, is spanking OK as a tool of disciplining.

This is where I am going with this. If it is not OK to spank employees, why is it OK to spank kids? Is it just because kids have no recourse, so the parents can take out their frustration on the kids? But employees quit, sue, or just return the blows as they are adults?

Isn't it a mark of huge cowardice to spank a child who cannot retaliate?

[NoMoreLunacy]

Note that I usually like the Socratic mode of discussion where through questions I let the other party realize the right answer. But it is getting late, people are avoiding questions (which means they know what the right answer is), so I just jumped the gun.

[Tennesseer]

Only after work hours.

[❤ mollymouser ❤]

Apparently, it can be expensive to spank one's employees.

abcnews.go.com/GMA/LegalCenter/story?id=1935649&page=1

(excerpt)

Woman Spanked at Work Awarded $1.7 Million

May 8, 2006
A jury has awarded a California woman $1.7 million after she was spanked in front of her employers.

Janet Orlando, 53, started working as a saleswoman for Alarm One in October 2003, when she said the spankings in front of her colleagues began.

"It was in the workplace," Orlando told "Good Morning America." "If you spoke out of turn or if you came in late, they would spank you."

Orlando said she was shocked when she heard about the spanking.

"I asked why they were doing it, and they told me, 'Don't worry, you'll be next' and I was," Orlando said. "I was hit three times."

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

Jun 18, 2011 23:35:19 GMT -5 ❤ mollymouser ❤ said:

Apparently, it can be expensive to spank one's employees.

abcnews.go.com/GMA/LegalCenter/story?id=1935649&page=1

(excerpt)

Woman Spanked at Work Awarded $1.7 Million

May 8, 2006
A jury has awarded a California woman $1.7 million after she was spanked in front of her employers.

Janet Orlando, 53, started working as a saleswoman for Alarm One in October 2003, when she said the spankings in front of her colleagues began.

"It was in the workplace," Orlando told "Good Morning America." "If you spoke out of turn or if you came in late, they would spank you."

Orlando said she was shocked when she heard about the spanking.

"I asked why they were doing it, and they told me, 'Don't worry, you'll be next' and I was," Orlando said. "I was hit three times."

...I'd have to wonder why this wasn't in the employee manual, and, if it was, why'd she wait to complain by suing?

[verrip1]

Spanking? No.

Enemas? Fer sure! There's a clear failure to give proper focus to elimination in this society, and the workplace is where it can be corrected most efficiently. I would expect an immediate 15% increase in labor productivity if this practice were implemented. However that would be partially offset by loss of jobs in the important Plunger segment of the Dow Industrials.

[ktunes]

as if the cost for dominatrix services aren't high enough already... ;D

[moon/Laura]

i had no idea that when i went to bed last night that i'd wake up in the twilight zone...

[marvholly]

WTF!!!

I just want an employer to try that form of discipline on me. My actions in priority order:

Walk out
Call the police
File assault charges
Sue the individual & company for a gazillion $$

Adults s/b able to discuss things. The max penalty for job performance issues is firning. I only panked my kids for doing life threatening things (running into the street, running away from me in a parking lot) after several warnings. I needed to make sure the message got home.

[txbo]

Jun 19, 2011 5:32:07 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

i had no idea that when i went to bed last night that i'd wake up in the twilight zone...

LOL, you never know.

[privateinvestor]

Should employers be allowed to spank employees?


In the USA??? Or in some third world country...pls edit the OP so we know which country you think employers should be allowed to spank employees....there seems to be a hangup for truthful and accurate OPs here lately

Spanking is allowed by the U.S. Navy as part of the Crossing the Equator rituals aboard ship.. Although a few female sailors were not too happy to be spanked by some rowdy male sailors and filed grievances to their COs

[Bluerobin]

In certain types of businesses, yes!

[moon/Laura]

i don't think the ballerinas should count, blue.. it's like a "perk" for them... lol...

[Bluerobin]

Moon, not quite the business I was thinking of...........

[cme1201]

What exactly is the point of this thread?

Once a child passes a certain age, parents stop spanking, and punishment becomes more tailored to discouraging the bad behavior that you don't want to see. At 16 what is more detrimental, a few pops on a padded (due to age, muscle and fat deposits) rare end or the prospects of not being able to drive a vehicle for a month?

How would being popped on the rear end be a detriment to the population have a fetish for such proclivities?

[moon/Laura]

meh. it's just more of lunatic's trolling for attention. that's all