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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 5, 2021 17:36:25 GMT -5
It's so good to have you posting Sam! Yes!!!
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 5, 2021 17:35:49 GMT -5
I’m traveling for work (left Wednesday, now at the Philly airport after landing from Toronto and headed on a flight home in a little over an hour), and the kids begged DH to let them be walkers today after school with friends. He agreed, so was waiting at the friends’ house to get them (they live half a block from the school versus our 2.32 miles). Apparently they needed to play before leaving so the mom sent me pictures of everyone playing some sort of ball game in the backyard - so cute, and I know the kids were thrilled. I’m usually the one to do this sort of thing, so I loved that DH agreed to it and did it. I texted the mom friend to make sure it was okay, but that was it for my involvement. Yay!
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 5, 2021 14:55:06 GMT -5
My state allows the first $6K as a deduction every year, which doesn't go far spread among 3 kids, so I'm putting in more. Having the investment income on $117K (so far) sheltered from taxes is a big benefit for me. You’re on the other side of the state line from me, correct? Because KS is $3k/year/beneficiary for an individual and $6k for married filing jointly. From my MO side friends, I thought their limits were $8k total for an individual and $16k for MFJ, but I might not be remembering correctly.
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 5, 2021 14:52:03 GMT -5
We find enough to get the max deduction we can for each kid, which is $6k per kiddo for married filing jointly in my state. We haven’t always done that, so my advice is just do whatever you can.
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 5, 2021 14:05:09 GMT -5
Congrats minnesotapaintlady . I have been putting in more money into my 401K, but in Roth and after tax money this year. I usually max my 401K, but this year I also decided to max my catch up contribution, but in my Roth 401K. After going through this thread and my 401K plan - I am also adding a small amount (5%) to my after tax contribution. I hope they still give us a bonus this year, so after that I will move my after tax contributions to a Roth (penalty is no matching 401K contribution for 6 months) to see how that works. Just to complete the picture, I have also been contributing to a taxable account this year and just 2 days ago, contributed the limit for myself in an ibond. I am thinking of completely switching my 401K contributions to Roth, as it is heavily weighted in pretax contributions - any suggestions or advice? TIA. I dont have a pension and want to retire anytime after 55. The only debt we have is a mortgage of 325K. I'm wondering the same thing as we have roth 401k too. My 401k and rollovers have gotten so big, I won't be able to keep my income down in retirement for things like the senior property tax freeze. No sure if that ship has sailed and I just go with it, or try to do something about it. What happens to company match? does that stay in tax deferred - or do you have to pay taxes on it? Company match has to be pre-tax category. Right or wrong, DH and I put all of our 401k contributions in the Roth 401k in an attempt to balance things out. Not sure we’ll ever catch up the Roth 401k to the regular 401k for us each, but I wanted options in retirement from where we were going to pull money.
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 5, 2021 14:03:04 GMT -5
I realized I hadn't posted my October 2021 update, so here it is: ASSETS: Checking/Savings: $158,393 House: $512.7k Retirement: $1.98M Brokerage: $5.7k 529s: $76.1k Company Stock: $214.5k DEBTS: Company Stock Loan (to shareholder I'm buying stock from, at 0.52% for 7 years): $175k Total NW: $2,772,659 As usual, the list above excludes our cars, which are worth around $30k combined, but I leave them out because we're unlikely to sell, and need them to get to/from work, kids schools, etc. in the land of suburbia. If you've followed my other thread, company stock loan + the company stock above are getting wiped out at the end of this month or beginning of next, and I have to figure out where to put the cash I'm going to receive. Wait a minute. Your balance for company stock looks to me to be only about $40k, or am I missing something? Imo: travel--ibonds--spend--retirement? 😁 I put in the stock price based on the 3Q stock valuation above. We received the negotiated stock price from the ESOP trustee, and it’s more - so it’ll equal out to a $100k check for me (before taxes). But until all the paperwork gets signed, every i dotted and every t crossed, I’m using the last approved stock valuation. Paranoia at its finest. 😉
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 5, 2021 10:02:30 GMT -5
tcu2003 - take the vacation...take ALL the vacations. I don't regret a nickel I spent on our National Park tour this past June. LOL - sitting in my hotel room on mute on a work call, I just put the plane tickets on hold for Grand Canyon over spring break! :-) And I'm trying to look at Yellowstone in park lodging availability over the summer because we're pretty flexible on dates, but my crappy hotel wifi and that website aren't cooperating, so I'll try again this weekend when I'm home. ;-) I'm motivated to book some travel!
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 5, 2021 10:00:19 GMT -5
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 5, 2021 9:05:30 GMT -5
I realized I hadn't posted my October 2021 update, so here it is:
ASSETS:
Checking/Savings: $158,393 House: $512.7k Retirement: $1.98M Brokerage: $5.7k 529s: $76.1k Company Stock: $214.5k
DEBTS: Company Stock Loan (to shareholder I'm buying stock from, at 0.52% for 7 years): $175k
Total NW: $2,772,659
As usual, the list above excludes our cars, which are worth around $30k combined, but I leave them out because we're unlikely to sell, and need them to get to/from work, kids schools, etc. in the land of suburbia.
If you've followed my other thread, company stock loan + the company stock above are getting wiped out at the end of this month or beginning of next, and I have to figure out where to put the cash I'm going to receive.
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 4, 2021 15:31:50 GMT -5
OK, you know what I would do if I were in your financial position? ( I can't say 100%, but sorely tempted to. ) Quit, buy a camper, and take the kids to see all the national parks. That would be my nightmare. 😂🤣😉 DH jokes about getting an RV or camper, and I tell him over my dead body. I’d much rather fly than drive, and definitely prefer a hotel to a camper (or camping). We are probably going to do Yellowstone and Tetons this summer as that’s the other NPs at the top of DS’s wish list.
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 4, 2021 15:29:55 GMT -5
PS Other thoughts: - You don't mention your mortgage ... it's probably negligible for you long term, but it MIGHT be worth paying off your house before retirement. - You're in a position where you can set your kids up with a down payment, IF you are interested, of course! We paid off our house 5-ish years ago, so we’re completely debt-free. I’m not necessarily opposed to helping the kids with a down payment in the future, but not sure how DH feels about that. And it *seems* so far off, though the fact that my oldest starts college in 9 years means it might not be as far as off as I’d like to think. 😉
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 4, 2021 15:24:01 GMT -5
I'm struggling with the same spend a little more money when it's rewarding. Couldn't let myself get a cleaning lady - wasteful spending. Geez - my life is so, so much better with her. Well worth the $200/month as I function way better with a clean house. Plus it makes us all pick up the night before and it's not me nagging. It's hey Robin is coming tomorrow and she can't see that we sometimes live like pigs LOL. I want a cleaning lady but DH does not. So maybe I’ll work harder on convincing him next year! For now, I make him do most of the cleaning since he’s the holdout!
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 4, 2021 15:22:17 GMT -5
What are your goals? Do you want to RE, or to leave your empire to your kids, or live it up a little now? (Did you see the ibonds thread?) Who knows. DH is 5 years older and says he wants to retire by 60. Not sure if I will want to them or not, but no would like the option. That said, since he’ll be able to withdraw from his 529 at that age, we’d be fine. I want to leave some money to my kids, but also fully intend to enjoy retirement and want to continue to travel as long as we’re able. I haven’t seen the ibonds thread - I’ll go take a look.
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 3, 2021 21:08:11 GMT -5
Thanks, Athena.
DH and I did start contributing to Roth 401ks maybe 7-8 years ago, so hopefully that helps with taxes in retirement. I can’t remember the split on them for the current balances though - I don’t track that when I update our net worth monthly, so I’ll have to remember to look next time I’m logged into the accounts.
Do you use a Vanguard/Fidelity type brokerage firm for your after tax account?
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Post by tcu2003 on Nov 3, 2021 20:35:43 GMT -5
Long story short - I finally made shareholder at my firm, and 11 months later, the shareholder group just voted to become an ESOP, so I'll be selling my shares. My initial investment will be up about $25/share (the exact number depends on cashflow and a couple of other things when the transaction actually occurs, but that's close enough). Less what I owe the former shareholder I bought my shares from, I will get a check for about $103k (and then have to subtract taxes - I think it's just capital gains taxes).
I won't see this type of return again in the future as we're going to an ESOP. Instead, I'll get ESOP shares to cash out at retirement, and I will see a larger annual bonus, though that is subject to higher taxes than my distributions based on my shares would have been.
I already max out my 401k, as does DH (neither of us qualify for the catch-up contributions). We do a backdoor Roth every year already for each of us. In the 401k accounts, we have close to 8 times our household income, so it feels like we're on track there. I haven't finished funding the kids' 529s for the year, but have money earmarked for that (we typically put in $6k each as that's the max we can claim on our state taxes). My 9yo has $46k and my 5yo has $29k.
Our EF is already over-funded. No new cars are needed. I have no interest in a vacation home. No debt other than my stock loan which will get paid off before I receive the check.
Is one piece of the answer I should just do the things and not worry about them? For instance, DS is a 4th grader and has the free national park pass this year, which he thinks is really cool, and he wants to go to the Grand Canyon. I keep looking at flights for spring break, and they're close to double what they 'normally' are - we have 2 airlines with direct flights there, so typically can get them around $250-300, and now they're closer to $500. The part of me that grew up with parents pinching every penny to make ends meet doesn't want to overpay for flights, but then the other part of me says we can afford it, and we'd all enjoy the trip, so just do it.
The other piece is that I probably need to start an after-tax investing account. I have almost nothing in after tax, and it seems like maybe that is overdue? I also have the option (not with this money, but money in the future in general from my job) to do after-tax investing in my 401k account. Is that something I should consider?
Let me know if there's anything else I should consider, or other questions someone has. I'm in Toronto for work for a couple of days and mostly just using wifi, so my responses may be delayed.
PDQ the entire thread (pieces are fine) - I may delete anything I think is too much of an identifying detail later.
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Post by tcu2003 on Oct 26, 2021 21:01:14 GMT -5
I have always thought net worth is assets minus liabilities, so unless everything in your life is totally paid for, assets alone does not equal net worth. Have I misunderstood since accounting 101? I think that’s what most of us are doing to calculate our NW.
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Post by tcu2003 on Oct 26, 2021 13:20:11 GMT -5
These guys aren't even that into sports, but they need something to keep them from being couch potatoes. That's what I just told Carrot about swimming last night. I said I don't care if you do meets, but you need to have something athletic you're doing a few days a week. The phy-ed classes in the schools around here are practically non-existent these days. Same! C likes basketball, so he did that last winter and spring, and is signed up for winter again. He no longer wants to do baseball or soccer, so I put him in golf this summer and fall, but golf isn’t much exercise. And he generally complains every time we go on a family walk (he can walk or ride his bike). He has been playing a ton on nicer days in the backyards of us and two neighbors - open backyards between us and the kids all run around back there, so I’ll take it! M just finished soccer for the season. I need to figure out if she’d rather try basketball (she’s so short I’m not sure she can remotely make a basket even with the smaller goal for kindergarten kids) or gymnastics/tumbling this winter. She’s so tired still at the end of the day, I’m definitely limiting her extracurriculars. That said, she’s my outside kiddo, so she’s outside playing in the yard/swing set and/or with neighbors frequently so I’m not too worried.
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Post by tcu2003 on Oct 25, 2021 20:40:29 GMT -5
Congrats, rukh!
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Post by tcu2003 on Oct 22, 2021 12:04:03 GMT -5
Last week I started and finished People We Meet on Vacation by Emily Henry. It definitely had a predictable ending, but it was a cute, lighthearted read that I still enjoyed.
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Post by tcu2003 on Oct 20, 2021 23:09:29 GMT -5
Congrats, jenpen!!
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Post by tcu2003 on Oct 20, 2021 7:09:07 GMT -5
Hope the appointment for your daughter goes well today, azucena!!
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Post by tcu2003 on Oct 8, 2021 23:17:56 GMT -5
I just finished Sprinting Through No Man’s Land: Endurance, Tragedy, and Rebirth in the 1919 Tour de France by Adin Dobkin. I wanted to like it, but it was dry and disjointed and I forced myself to power through to finish. That said, it was interesting to read about some of the insane rules about the Tour from those easy rules and the middle of the night start times they had. The 11 cyclists who finished the grueling race were incredible, persevering athletes who accomplished a near inhuman feat.
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Post by tcu2003 on Oct 2, 2021 9:14:50 GMT -5
I’m sorry, taz. I would also be angry and hurt.
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Post by tcu2003 on Oct 1, 2021 8:20:51 GMT -5
Here's my September 2021 update:
ASSETS:
Checking/Savings: $155,458 House: $512.7k Retirement: $1.857M Brokerage: $5.5k 529s: $69.6k Company Stock: $214.5k
DEBTS: Company Stock Loan (to shareholder I'm buying stock from, at 0.52% for 7 years): $175k
Total NW: $2,640,514
As usual, the list above excludes our cars, which are worth around $30k combined, but I leave them out because we're unlikely to sell, and need them to get to/from work, kids schools, etc. in the land of suburbia.
And I'm with MPL this month - it's an "ouch" month with a down stock market over the end of August. We're down about $68k, or a little under 3% of our total NW since August.
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Post by tcu2003 on Sept 25, 2021 23:17:28 GMT -5
I just finished The Gown by Jennifer Robson and really enjoyed. It was a historical fiction book about embroiderers who helped creat Princess (now Queen) Elizabeth’s wedding gown. Thanks t goes back and forth between a few viewpoints, including a modern day one of one of the ladies’ granddaughters, but I thought it was well done. www.goodreads.com/book/show/39893613
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Post by tcu2003 on Sept 25, 2021 23:15:05 GMT -5
Today's morning fit was brought to my house by a stupid website called 'Epic'. Told my 3rd grader to ask her teacher if her preference was to read books online using this website or to read physical books. I'm the meanest mommy in the whole world because I won't let her read books online. Meanwhile her bookshelf is stocked with 10-20 library books each week. And she tested at a 5th grade reading level so we must be doing okay. Geez! I know you have stricter screen time limits, but online reading hasn't impacted my kids reading scores. They're still well over grade level and they did all of their independent reading last year online. (I'm not sure why, but that was all they wanted to do for independent reading. They did a lot of it, but all online and dd a lot of audio books). Similar boat with my 4th grader. He reads a ton of physical books as we also visit the library weekly, but I also sometimes download books from the library’s Kindle selection, and he reads those as well. He teacher last year also heavily used a reading app - I think it was Epic or something like that. We’re fairly strict with screen time, but as long as he’s actually reading, I don’t typically count that towards his screen time.
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Post by tcu2003 on Sept 23, 2021 21:37:51 GMT -5
So are snow days! Last year there were a couple days where the weather looked like it wasn't going to be great the next day and the school told all the students to take their Chromebooks home. If school was cancelled they'd Zoom. Our district continued having snow days for all--even the remote students--last year. Their embrace of snow days is actually kinda annoying, 'cause they always start with a throwaway one for no good reason. Our snow days days were also supposed to be virtual learning days. Of course, due to rolling blackouts, the too weather days we had (which were really due to cold, not snow), ended up being weather days instead of virtual days because they couldn’t guarantee every kid would have power when needed to zoom in. Oh, the irony….
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Post by tcu2003 on Sept 21, 2021 17:15:08 GMT -5
I just saw the news on FB as well. So tragic and sad. My heart hurts for her kids and husband.
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Post by tcu2003 on Sept 20, 2021 12:51:41 GMT -5
So, this is probably more for the saver's thread than this one, but I haven't been taking part in that one the past couple years so I'll set it here. I just noticed my 401K will be maxed out by the 21st of 26 checks this year. I've been maxing it for 4 years and it's gone like this; 2018 - 26 checks 2019 - 24 checks 2020 - 23 checks 2021 - 21 checks Plus the max has gone from $18,500 in 2018 to $19,500 this year (next year it's $20,500!). Kind of a pointless metric, the reduced time is due to allocating all raises to the 401K. I'm just rejoicing at FIVE whole checks with nothing coming out. I'm going to feel rich!
Do you still get the full match that way? I've read of that being an issue for some on the MMM forum. My employer doesn’t actually match 401k funds until February or March the next year, so it doesn’t matter when I max. They will true up for everyone. I assume that also means that if someone stops contributing partway through the year and hasn’t maxed, they’ll get less match than the percentages would indicate from when they were contributing, but I’ve never asked and don’t need to test that theory.
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Post by tcu2003 on Sept 18, 2021 13:23:36 GMT -5
50 lbs down this morning!!! 😁😁😁😁😁 That’s fantastic!! Way to go!!
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