I LOVE Benjamin Netanyahu

[henryclay]

Marsha posted:

It must just crush their mother's souls. This is so against everything in a woman. In fact so much of what goes on in the Muslim world seems to crush the soul.

And it would be true to any westernized mother. But the muslim women, , the mothers of the suicide bombers , , are not only NOT westernized, they are nothing anyway. They can'[t even walk on the street without "proper" attire without the risk of being beaten by other women and certainly by the first man that has a chip on his shoulder for any man in her family.

Isn't that the sum total of what we know about the mothers of suicide bombers? Isn't that why Article 22 of the Palestinian Constitution says the families of their "martyrs" will be provided for?

ARTICLE 22
1.Social, Health, disability, and retirement insurance shall be regulated by law.
2.The welfare of families of martyrs’, prisoners of war, the injured, and the disabled, shall be regulated by law. The National Authority shall guarantee them education services, health and social insurance.

[marshabar1]

I didn't know that, Henry. That means the suicide bombing an institutionalized activity in Palestine blessed and kissed by the government, embraced by a brain washed population.

[henryclay]

Marsha, I honestly believe most people are not aware of it. But it, the fact if not the actual provision for that fact, has been publicized enough that I have trouble with anyone who continues to say Israel is an intemperate state.

The preamble to the same Palestinian constitution reads such that current Palestinians are indebted to the past martyrs and must continue the "struggle" if for no other reason than to pay them homage.

With this information so widely available and so universally ignored is really telling as to what is, or certainly what is NOT important to some very short sighted Americans.

[marshabar1]

It's interesting to see the press scrambling to recover from Obama's total fail in pushing Israel around.

They thought it was a done deal. Now they don't know what to say.

[henryclay]

And we read the results here, post after follow-the-leader post. And by all the usual suspects.

I believe it was k2r that posted the link to the Palestinian constitution a couple of days ago. Apparently it drew scant attention.

[deziloooooo]

Yet with all the rhetoric you and your compadres put up, there are those who feel differently, just average folk, not anti Israeli, but see nothing wrong with the POTUS remarks of useing the comment of the "67" borders as a starting point in negotiations.

Then working on encorporating the important ones within Israels borders, removing the unimportant, and the Palastinians getting a workable State for themselves, not one all cut up with no where to go.

You continue to ignore the fact that that has been explained by the POTUS, for what reason, even your best buddy Bibbi has said and alluded to that, yet you and your little group here keep ignoring that?

Also forgetten and never mentioned all POTUS have used the same reference to the "67" border in some context as a starting point for negotiations.
In fact in earlier years, before the Isreli's moved those 500,000 settlers into the West Bank there was no problem with all the West Bank going toward the Palastinian State, what was offered to Arafat, less about 10 % of his dmands not met that the coward refused.

I call him a coward tbecause he was afraid of being assasinated as Sedat was if he had agreed by some hardliner, all sides have them, including Israel, also a hero assasinated but not by a Arab hard liner, a Israeli one, and he was probaly would have been correct, asasinated or at least attempts on.

Didn't want to take one for the people who he said he was the leader of, the .

Why? You own some apts in the desputed areas, afraid you might lose out if the area goes over to the other side?

Do I have to repost those comments that came from ed's post , not al jazeer[no comment on the i gotcha?} article and while it would be easier just to cut past those, if you insist, I will go in and pull out as many, and many more from fellow American citizens , some really fed up with the antics of your best buddy, and no , not anti semetic, actually pro israel as I am , but you refuse to think anything but your own sound bytes.

It seems more and more you , all by repeating same BS just like to see your posts posted, never anything new, same old, same old.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

May 25, 2011 11:46:34 GMT -5 @ed1066 said:

The young people, the majority, may not care for the Israeli's but they do not want the repercussions of a war.

That's absolutely false. The suicide bombers who murder innocent Israeli men, women and children are all young men and women who have been indocrinated into terrorism by Hamas and Fatah leaders.

Yes, and leading up to the actual act of murder-suicide, the "martyrs" are selected from the weak-minded in the ranks, kept awake for days, drugged, and thoroughly brainwashed in a manner that would make Jim Jones look like an Eagle Scout.

[marshabar1]

Is that true, Paul?

Found a video about Taliban training of suicide bombers.

[deziloooooo]

May 25, 2011 23:03:36 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

May 25, 2011 11:46:34 GMT -5 @ed1066 said:

That's absolutely false. The suicide bombers who murder innocent Israeli men, women and children are all young men and women who have been indocrinated into terrorism by Hamas and Fatah leaders.

Yes, and leading up to the actual act of murder-suicide, the "martyrs" are selected from the weak-minded in the ranks, kept awake for days, drugged, and thoroughly brainwashed in a manner that would make Jim Jones look like an Eagle Scout.

Your story is getting old, the suicide bombers come from many parts of the society, why not read this one. It has more facts, studies done by I raelis on those who were captuered , many are, and will be a bit more believable then your yadda, yadda where you really know little of what you speak .
Interesting segment is the # of woman who volunteer or are coerced, older, more educatued then the males, reasons why they do so.
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www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1617542,00.html
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"In late March, a macabre music video appeared on a television show for Palestinian children. "Duha," 4, as pale as a porcelain doll, is sitting on a bed, watching her mom dress before leaving home. "Mommy, what are you carrying in your arms instead of me?" the girl sings. The next day, Duha gets the answer from the evening news. It turns out her mother was carrying explosives and had blown herself up, killing four Israelis. The final scene shows the girl wistfully rummaging through her dead mother's bedside table. She finds a hidden stick of dynamite and picks it up. The implicit message is that someday Duha will follow her mother into blazing martyrdom.

Abhorrent as such images might seem, the story behind them is even more wrenching. Aired on a TV channel run by the Islamic militants of Hamas, the two-minute re-enactment was based on the life of Reem Riyashi, 22, a Palestinian mother of two who blew herself up in a suicide attack against Israeli soldiers at a Gaza border crossing in January 2004. Riyashi is hailed as a courageous resistance fighter among Palestinians throughout Gaza and the West Bank, but the truth about what drove her to such a terrible act is much more complex. Palestinians in Gaza and Israeli internal-security experts who studied the background of her case say Riyashi's husband had discovered that she was having an affair with a senior Hamas commander. Among conservative Palestinians, as in other parts of the Islamic world, an adulterous woman is often punished with death. Riyashi was given a second option: she could become a martyr. In a video statement released hours before her death, Riyashi, garbed in a militaristic uniform and holding a semiautomatic rifle, sounds tough. "I have always wished to knock at the door of heaven carrying skulls belonging to the sons of Zion," she says. But the pained expression on her chubby, homely face conveys considerably more ambivalence about the idea of annihilating herself to kill Israelis and restore her family's "honor."
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[marshabar1]

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I'm tired. I hate to go to sleep with those videos the last thing in my mind. Very disturbing.

[marshabar1]

Israeli public opinion polls showed Prime Minister Benjamin Netayahu and his Likud Party reaping the benefits of his tension-filled visit to Washington this week.

A poll carried out by Israeli survey company Dialogue showed that 51 percent of Israelis approve of Netanyahu's leadership, up from 38 percent last month.

A 47 percent plurality viewed Netanyahu's address before the US Congress as a success, and half of Israelis said they felt proud as they watched the American lawmakers repeatedly and enthusiastically applaud their leader.

Netanyahu's speech before Congress was seen as a rebuff of US President Barack Obama's peace policies laid out earlier in the week. Only 25 percent of the Israelis polled by Dialogue believe Obama is friendly toward Israel.

Netanyahu's perceived success in Washington has also paid off for the ruling Likud Party, which another poll conducted on behalf of Channel 2 News showed would handily win if elections were held today.

According to the survey by the Sarid Institute, if elections were held today, the Likud would come away with 34 Knesset seats, up from its current 27. The opposition Kadima Party would win 29 seats, one more than its current 28.


www.israeltoday.co.il/tabid/178/nid/22803/Default.aspx