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Post by raeoflyte on Sept 13, 2021 22:25:33 GMT -5
Ds included the nurse and health aide on his email and the health aide has already replied. She's great - thanked him for the email, apologized for the situation, complimented his maturity and has escalated it up to administration. I'm guessing we'll hear more tomorrow, but I'm sure the nurse or admin will reach out to the sub.
We have responses to medical professionals who say/ask ridiculous things. Need to work out a few more scripts for day to day encounters.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Sept 14, 2021 7:15:44 GMT -5
Morning all, I guess I haven’t been here for a really long time LOL…. I see some ladies have some new kids and the current kids are getting much older. DS is 10 now…. Can’t believe it.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 14, 2021 7:26:00 GMT -5
Ds included the nurse and health aide on his email and the health aide has already replied. She's great - thanked him for the email, apologized for the situation, complimented his maturity and has escalated it up to administration. I'm guessing we'll hear more tomorrow, but I'm sure the nurse or admin will reach out to the sub. We have responses to medical professionals who say/ask ridiculous things. Need to work out a few more scripts for day to day encounters. I suppose "F*ck off you ignorant twit" is not the proper script?
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Post by MJ2.0 on Sept 14, 2021 7:43:28 GMT -5
Ds included the nurse and health aide on his email and the health aide has already replied. She's great - thanked him for the email, apologized for the situation, complimented his maturity and has escalated it up to administration. I'm guessing we'll hear more tomorrow, but I'm sure the nurse or admin will reach out to the sub. We have responses to medical professionals who say/ask ridiculous things. Need to work out a few more scripts for day to day encounters. I suppose "F*ck off you ignorant twit" is not the proper script? Define “proper”…
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Post by azucena on Sept 14, 2021 7:51:50 GMT -5
Ds included the nurse and health aide on his email and the health aide has already replied. She's great - thanked him for the email, apologized for the situation, complimented his maturity and has escalated it up to administration. I'm guessing we'll hear more tomorrow, but I'm sure the nurse or admin will reach out to the sub. We have responses to medical professionals who say/ask ridiculous things. Need to work out a few more scripts for day to day encounters. Great maturity to send an email. Wondering if he has a close friend or two who can also advocate for him. This is what I encourage for DD13. That she talk about situations that might bother her ahead of time with a couple of close friends (boys picking on her, etc) and form a pact that they will help watch out for and stick up for each other.
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Post by raeoflyte on Sept 15, 2021 9:00:59 GMT -5
Ds included the nurse and health aide on his email and the health aide has already replied. She's great - thanked him for the email, apologized for the situation, complimented his maturity and has escalated it up to administration. I'm guessing we'll hear more tomorrow, but I'm sure the nurse or admin will reach out to the sub. We have responses to medical professionals who say/ask ridiculous things. Need to work out a few more scripts for day to day encounters. Great maturity to send an email. Wondering if he has a close friend or two who can also advocate for him. This is what I encourage for DD13. That she talk about situations that might bother her ahead of time with a couple of close friends (boys picking on her, etc) and form a pact that they will help watch out for and stick up for each other. I can't see ds asking (or wanting) his friends for that kind of support and he's even less likely to talk about diabetes. We talk about sticking up for others and what I've seen he's happy to do that. He just isn't very social, but not in a negative way. 3 friends are about the max # he wants.
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Post by tcu2003 on Sept 15, 2021 21:54:18 GMT -5
Good to “see” you, jena! Your son is getting so big!!
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Post by tcu2003 on Sept 15, 2021 21:55:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the update, rae! Glad the appropriate staff are on it and escalating to hopefully help make sure it doesn’t happen in the future.
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Post by azucena on Sept 17, 2021 8:49:45 GMT -5
Today is my day to write two school emails.
1. DD13 and her 8th grade friends are playing on the school 7/8th vball team. The coach is her favorite teacher and an absolute rock star. It's a competitive team with six 8th, two 7th, and one 6th grader got pulled up which is really unusual. One 7th grader and the 6th grader haven't sent the bench at all in our first 6 games. Meanwhile all of the 8th graders come in/out. Honestly, there's not much difference in talent. The 6th grader can hang with the older girls but when she messes up she doesn't have the maturity to pull it back together quickly - plus the pressure of playing up is obvious on her face. Our group of girls were overshadowed by the class before them, and now when it's their time to shine, they're getting overshadowed from behind. I think the upcoming group needs to pay their dues and wait their turn just like we had to. And, we're losing games we shouldn't anyway, so it's not like the younger girls are carrying the team. Honestly, I think what's playing out is the coach is favoring girls who play club teams and could potentially play hs ball. IMO, that's not what our school team is about. DD13 and four of the other 8th graders will tell you straight up that they have no interest in trying out next yr; only one will. But, they should have a great ending to their grade school careers after sticking with it for four yrs.
2. DD13 has been alarmed by some of the crazy crap her male classmates are saying day in and day out. Yesterday it was about how much they love Hitler and the Nazis and keeping Jews locked up in their basements. Earlier this week they told one girl that if she didn't like something, she should go kill herself. IMO this goes above boys will be boys and is not what I'm paying Christian school tuition for. I get that she's going to be exposed to it next year, but this year I feel like I can speak up about it. It's really two boys who are leaders of the pack and feed off each other. Stereotypical popular jocks who's parents think they can do no wrong. I'm over it, and in a class of 18 there's not much escape for DD.
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Post by raeoflyte on Sept 17, 2021 9:33:56 GMT -5
I wouldn't tolerate that kind of language in a public school, or any space, and the administrations I've dealt with would take a very serious and heavy handed approach with that.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 17, 2021 9:59:28 GMT -5
I wouldn't tolerate that kind of language in a public school, or any space, and the administrations I've dealt with would take a very serious and heavy handed approach with that. Ditto. I had a friend who was told to go kill herself to join her dad by a bunch of bullies (backstory her father was murdered and she wore his dog tags to school every day so that's how they figured it out). I was too scared to confront them directly so when I noticed my English teacher had put a comments section on one her tests I took the time to write it all out and hand it in. She had me hang back in class the next day with the excuse she needed to discuss my test. She had read every word. The administration and the school cop had been brought in to sit with these girls and they were told in no uncertain terms that threats like that are not tolerated and they would be expelled if it continued. It stopped. According to the directory it looks like she has long since retired. I wish I'd had a chance to tell her how much that shaped my world view as I went into adulthood. When you are 13 you don't think about it like that you are just relieved it's over.
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Post by azucena on Sept 17, 2021 11:41:13 GMT -5
Just to be clear, does the Nazi thing bother other folks as well? Sometimes I feel sheltered and wonder if I'm over reacting. DH seems to think so, but I think that's more of his old school let boys be boys.
Any feedback on the sports? I appreciate having you ladies as my anonymous sounding board.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Sept 17, 2021 11:44:45 GMT -5
Just to be clear, does the Nazi thing bother other folks as well? Sometimes I feel sheltered and wonder if I'm over reacting. DH seems to think so, but I think that's more of his old school let boys be boys. Any feedback on the sports? I appreciate having you ladies as my anonymous sounding board. Uh yeah, I’d be upset at any positive Nazi references being made around my kid at school…. Or anywhere…
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 17, 2021 11:58:26 GMT -5
Just to be clear, does the Nazi thing bother other folks as well? Sometimes I feel sheltered and wonder if I'm over reacting. DH seems to think so, but I think that's more of his old school let boys be boys. Any feedback on the sports? I appreciate having you ladies as my anonymous sounding board. YES. That's not acceptable and it's how holocaust denial is growing. In Germany they would get in BIG trouble for what they are saying BIG. It should be unacceptable here too especially in light of the significant increase in hate crimes against Jewish communities.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Sept 17, 2021 12:12:56 GMT -5
I don't have kids but no one should be talking about Nazis like that. Unacceptable 1000%.
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Post by raeoflyte on Sept 17, 2021 12:34:22 GMT -5
Yes, definitely unacceptable. I stopped making the "soup nazi" jokes years ago, because any joking about the holocaust is gross and unacceptable. What they're saying doesn't even sound like joking. If your dh doesn't think its a big deal, does his mind change if it was about locking up girls or Christians? I'm guessing it would, so the only reason he's ok with it is because it's about others.
White teen boys are targeted by supremacist groups online for recruitment big time right now. I think it should be on everyones radar to shut it down so we dont have more issues in 10-20 years. We've had a couple fights with ds about what feminism really is because what he is picking up from friends is about him losing status.
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Post by raeoflyte on Sept 17, 2021 12:43:04 GMT -5
My thought on the sports is that the coach realized the inequities and is trying to stop that going forward. Ideally it wouldn't impact 1 year of kids so heavily, but I don't like the system as described of having to pay your dues either.
I'm not a team sport person though, and so far neither are my kids. Tennis doubles is as close as they'll get to a team. (Ds tried a pick up volleyball team at school this year, but decided to drop it. I was impressed he even tried).
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Post by steph08 on Sept 17, 2021 13:58:27 GMT -5
On the volleyball, I can see how that is frustrating. On the other thing, oh ya, I would be saying something!
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Post by Lizard Queen on Sept 17, 2021 14:02:23 GMT -5
I remember boys saying shit just for the shock value. Doesn't mean it's acceptable, and I wouldn't want to put up with it, especially at a school where you pay tuition. (In my experience, boys at a private religious school were worse with these things than at the public school I attended.)
The volleyball thing: good luck. I think that kind of stuff happens all the time in school sports. Maybe they'll straighten up if they realize a parent sees it.
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Post by finnime on Sept 17, 2021 17:06:56 GMT -5
azucena, on the volleyball thing, I would agree that the younger girls should not be playing more than the 8th graders, at a minimum. All should rotate in and out if any are. On the boys making saying shocking things, they do need to be shut down. To say that anyone should kill themself, or anything in any way positive about Naziism and the Holocaust, is seriously problematic. The leaders of that group should be separated out and talked to about how damaging they are being and told to stop it immediately.
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Post by alabamagal on Sept 17, 2021 19:22:08 GMT -5
azucena -on the volleyball thing, middle school sports are where it is supposed to be competitive and begin development for high school, not about equal playing time. I went through middle school sports with 3 kids, some where my kids spent most of the time on the bench. It is also a time for kids to learn about what they are good at and what they are not. Complaints should be reserved for only health of student.
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Post by azucena on Sept 18, 2021 7:59:48 GMT -5
My vball email was well received and the coach asked to chat in person on Monday. We played well last night and won. She did end up playing them more balanced, and I do think it helped.
I wouldn't have spoken up if younger girls were much more talented than our group. They aren't. They serve into the net way more than ours because they are doing overhand whereas half of ours stick with underhand and are 90% consistent instead of 50/50. I know this for sure bc I keep the book and have marked this data for the coach. We can't win if we give away service pts.
If an 8th grader messes up two serve returns in a row, she pulls them. Two younger players can miss 3-4 and never get benched. And by that time they are in their heads and any slight talent advantage is gone. So we give away pt after it and are losing bc of it.
And I wasn't just advocating for my kid as she and I both know that she is middle of the pack in this sport. I didn't say her name on purpose and kept it to a general complaint about their class being overlooked bc I feel just as badly about 2-3 other 8th graders riding the bench who are better than dd13.
I also would have let it go if a 6th grader wasn't involved. That's the one that our parent group doesn't like jumping the line so to speak. She's way more talented than her class sure, but can't overcome the mental part of playing with these older girls.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Sept 18, 2021 9:29:43 GMT -5
I dunno. They're likely to grow to different heights, and that will factor much more by high school. Best to teach them all the techniques and strategies.
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Post by raeoflyte on Sept 20, 2021 13:04:22 GMT -5
How much homework is normal in middle school? They didn't get much in elementary school besides reading which I was good with. Middle school seems excessive though. Ds did 2 hours Friday night, and at least 4 hours on Saturday. He's had something every night, sometimes just a few minutes but closer to 30-60 minutes a night. I checked his grades and everything looks good (thankfully), so I don't think he's slacking during the day. Its across the board in all subjects. I don't know if they have conferences yet, but will find out and reach out to his homeroom teacher.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Sept 20, 2021 13:37:48 GMT -5
I think they shoot for 10 minutes per grade level, but my kids never had that much besides for in kindergarten. My 6th grader so far has had 1 5 minute project to do, and that's it. Started school just a couple weeks ago, though.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Sept 20, 2021 13:41:39 GMT -5
I'm hoping my 6th grade kid is doing his in after school care. He CLAIMS he is, but they haven't been posting any grading online yet either so I don't have proof. He's had a few nights of 15-20 minutes and he has a spelling list we work on every week, but so far it's been light. He really should be reading every night too...
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Post by raeoflyte on Sept 20, 2021 17:14:39 GMT -5
I think they shoot for 10 minutes per grade level, but my kids never had that much besides for in kindergarten. My 6th grader so far has had 1 5 minute project to do, and that's it. Started school just a couple weeks ago, though. I'm ok with 5 hours a week, assuming some is on the weekend. I asked ds about it and said a lot of it was easy just tedious, but its still a lot of time. He stayed home sick today but did school work all day to not fall behind.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Sept 20, 2021 17:18:59 GMT -5
I think they shoot for 10 minutes per grade level, but my kids never had that much besides for in kindergarten. My 6th grader so far has had 1 5 minute project to do, and that's it. Started school just a couple weeks ago, though. I'm ok with 5 hours a week, assuming some is on the weekend. I asked ds about it and said a lot of it was easy just tedious, but its still a lot of time. He stayed home sick today but did school work all day to not fall behind. I wish my kid had something, but he really doesn't have time for much right now. I'm just worried he's going to have zero study skills in the future.
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Post by azucena on Sept 21, 2021 7:33:16 GMT -5
Just in case anyone isn't on the what are you doing thread, MPL and Theo let us know that Wis Beth is hospitalized with lung issues and covid. Please keep her family in your thoughts and prayers.
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Post by anciana on Sept 21, 2021 11:00:21 GMT -5
Just in case anyone isn't on the what are you doing thread, MPL and Theo let us know that Wis Beth is hospitalized with lung issues and covid. Please keep her family in your thoughts and prayers. This news just guts me, so sad! I'll keep Beth and her family in my thoughts as there's nothing more I can do. Thank you to those who are able to update us on her. Please, let her and her family know how much they mean to us and that we're all wishing them well from the bottom of our heart.
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