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Post by CCL on Jul 15, 2020 21:33:47 GMT -5
Isn't Carrot like 8 or 9? I wouldn't leave him home alone all day, every day. Have you tried talking with his friends parents about their plans?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 21:49:51 GMT -5
He's 10. He'd be fine being home alone all day and probably will have to no matter what choice I make as I'm sure the schools will be hybrid at best, but I'm not sure I'd trust him to do schoolwork consistently.
As far as I know his Montessori friends are staying where they're at.
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Post by oped on Jul 16, 2020 5:38:21 GMT -5
Have you talked to the Montessori to see if maybe with prep time their online/hybrid approach will be different in fall?
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Post by gs11rmb on Jul 16, 2020 6:28:37 GMT -5
Isn't Carrot like 8 or 9? I wouldn't leave him home alone all day, every day. Have you tried talking with his friends parents about their plans? That’s going to be really common with schools going virtual. I really worry about even younger children being left alone. Something terrible is going to happen and a poor mother who has to work will not only lose a child but will be in legal trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 7:32:26 GMT -5
Have you talked to the Montessori to see if maybe with prep time their online/hybrid approach will be different in fall? I emailed the principal a couple weeks ago and just got a generic "we're working to make sure they get a quality education no matter what the format" answer that practically every school (including colleges) seems to be tossing out there these days. Today I'm going to email my insider at the school. She works in administration and has 3 kids at the Montessori, one in Carrot's grade, and our kids are in scouts together. I'm hoping she tells me more.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 7:36:40 GMT -5
Isn't Carrot like 8 or 9? I wouldn't leave him home alone all day, every day. Have you tried talking with his friends parents about their plans? That’s going to be really common with schools going virtual. I really worry about even younger children being left alone. Something terrible is going to happen and a poor mother who has to work will not only lose a child but will be in legal trouble. Our main school age kid childcares (the YMCA and Key Kids) have changed the age limit from 12 to 9 years old for all their Summer programs in order to reduce numbers for social distancing and I would not be surprised at all if that didn't continue this Fall for after school care, which will actually suck for me more than no summer care. Easier to just leave him home all day than it is to deal with him being done at 2 and having nowhere to go.
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Post by geenamercile on Jul 16, 2020 9:03:22 GMT -5
The districts here that are going all online at least for the first nine weeks have been able to make a decision. But the rest are still holding more survey's and trying to I think find someway to make everyone happy. I still don't have a solid plan for the one I live in or the one I work in. Also the talk with DH about him and the girls going to his parents fell flat. He is against the idea because of starting this job. So we are looking at doing the online option for them and then I will work with them when I get home. Part of me is just considering homeschooling them both for the year, but oldest daughter wants to try high school, and even the online option will at least start her towards that goal.
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Post by geenamercile on Jul 16, 2020 9:04:07 GMT -5
On another note, I have a few online meetings today about the opening of schools.... I am wondering if I could create a drinking game to go with them.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 16, 2020 9:32:41 GMT -5
Isn't Carrot like 8 or 9? I wouldn't leave him home alone all day, every day. Have you tried talking with his friends parents about their plans? That’s going to be really common with schools going virtual. I really worry about even younger children being left alone. Something terrible is going to happen and a poor mother who has to work will not only lose a child but will be in legal trouble. Kids & Company is on the ball here more so than I would consider the school system. They have already worked out providing child care for each scenario we could be facing including all virtual. They have also changed the ages when kids can start to three years of age so if your child has a sibling who isn't old enough for pre-school yet but you can't find daycare can attend with their siblings. If they do go all virtual younger kids at least in the CB school system won't have to be latch key kids. I have no idea what Lewis Central or St Albert's are doing. They have been operating since the schools closed so they already have their system down. So far I have not heard of a single confirmed case. One possible but a letter never went out stating confirmed. We're signing up for before/after care even though we may not need it with DH being home. He is cool dropping them off and picking them up. However we don't know for how long his employer will continue to allow WFH. As of right now it's till December or so rumor dictates. We may need care for the spring semester or sooner. We don't pay unless we use it so better to sign up and not need it than need it and be left scrambling.
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Post by cyanne on Jul 16, 2020 9:58:37 GMT -5
On another note, I have a few online meetings today about the opening of schools.... I am wondering if I could create a drinking game to go with them. I have opening meetings today too. If you come up with a drinking game to go with them, please share!
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 16, 2020 10:11:55 GMT -5
Our school board meets tonight as well. But I can't drink right now.
I'm posting this here, because we're mommies. I'm not trying to stir up any politics. This is a snippet from the middle of the article.
There is no cohesive solution to America’s child care problem. But the relative inattention to this crisis, one that’s so foundational to a functioning society, the economy and family units across the country, is revealing. It shows that for all the changes that have happened in American life — more female elected officials, a MeToo movement and a workforce that is around 47 percent female — our power dynamics remain fundamentally skewed. We are failing to collectively understand what our most critical and pressing problems actually are.
“Care in general has always been seen as a sideline issue,” Vicki Shabo of the left-leaning think tank New America said. “A nice-to-have and not something that’s necessary, and not something that’s central for adults to be productive in the economy.” Of course, now we’re seeing how much of a misunderstanding that is. In a country where most men and women work even when they have children, having child care is inextricably linked to economic productivity — and not having it often hurts women most. U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics data from 2015 found that in households with children under 6, women spent an hour a day doing child care, compared to the 25 minutes of care provided by men. It’s easy to extrapolate this trend for pandemic times: American women will bear the brunt of the school and child care crisis.
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Post by oped on Jul 16, 2020 10:30:35 GMT -5
In my more cynical hours I wonder if it is intentional, this seeming inattention to child care, because it back steps women and minorities at a time when they are making progress.
In many ways women (and minorities? How could I grow to adulthood without knowing about Black Wall Street?) in the 1920s had freedoms that they did not in the 1950s did not have... this road has never been a straight shot forward, and depressions can serve to easily backtrack rights if we are not careful.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 16, 2020 10:33:43 GMT -5
In my more cynical hours I wonder if it is intentional, this seeming inattention to child care, because it back steps women and minorities at a time when they are making progress. In many ways women (and minorities? How could I grow to adulthood without knowing about Black Wall Street?) in the 1920s had freedoms that they did not in the 1950s did not have... this road has never been a straight shot forward, and depressions can serve to easily backtrack rights if we are not careful. I'm sure it is. Remember me having kids and working is a "choice" and governments should not be concerned with my "choices". Unless it's I want to change said "choice" because I know that I can't handle the responsibility or I want to prevent the choice entirely by exercising birth control. THEN it becomes a matter of national concern. It's always been about keeping women "in their place" and a handy by product is WOC tend to be more adversely affected than white women killing two birds with one stone.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2020 12:46:50 GMT -5
Heard back from the other parent. Apparently she's not been working over the Summer so doesn't have any inside scoop on plans. She said all she knows is they are going with whatever the governor announces on July 27th. If he says hybrid the school has the option to do 100% online, but she said they would probably just go with what the district does (the school is a charter). It didn't sound like she had any plans personally except to send her kids back to the Montessori. I just don't know how they'd function even if it was in-person as the entire school philosophy is all material based learning. The classroom is full of hand on, shared things that would have to be disinfected constantly.
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Post by oped on Jul 16, 2020 12:49:53 GMT -5
Daughter emailed to ask for a parking permit and was told that she didn't need one because they increased shuttles so people could distance... I'm not sure how I feel about that. Or maybe I'm trying not to feel how I feel about that...
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Post by raeoflyte on Jul 16, 2020 16:33:59 GMT -5
I sent in the official homeschool notice and it was hard to do. We really love our school. Hopefully we will keep our friendships and connections active. But its the right call for us right now.
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Post by azucena on Jul 16, 2020 17:34:14 GMT -5
I sent in the official homeschool notice and it was hard to do. We really love our school. Hopefully we will keep our friendships and connections active. But its the right call for us right now. I'm glad your kids were onboard. I'm teetering on the edge of what to do and a huge part holding me back is that my kids would be devastated to 'leave' their school. It seems so unfair to ask that of them with everything our family went thru during DH's surgery. As tough as quarantine has been, they really have been troopers on missing out on things that they know their friends are allowed to do. I still have to tell them about the upcoming youth group ice cream social that DD11 will be skipping and the one day VBS at the end of the month. Both seem like really dumb things to attend right now. I'll tell them though because I don't think it's fair for them to hear about it from their friends. Sucks.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jul 17, 2020 8:07:58 GMT -5
I sent in the official homeschool notice and it was hard to do. We really love our school. Hopefully we will keep our friendships and connections active. But its the right call for us right now. I'm glad your kids were onboard. I'm teetering on the edge of what to do and a huge part holding me back is that my kids would be devastated to 'leave' their school. It seems so unfair to ask that of them with everything our family went thru during DH's surgery. As tough as quarantine has been, they really have been troopers on missing out on things that they know their friends are allowed to do. I still have to tell them about the upcoming youth group ice cream social that DD11 will be skipping and the one day VBS at the end of the month. Both seem like really dumb things to attend right now. I'll tell them though because I don't think it's fair for them to hear about it from their friends. Sucks. It was a group decision. Admittedly made with the limited info we had and filled in with assumptions. But the kids said they'd rather continue school at home than do in person school with the significantly limited contact and activities that school would be required to have this year. Then we discussed the limited info we had on the schools online curriculum vs. Going full on homeschool and they both chose the homeschool route as well. I tried not to push my own agenda, but did list my pros for each so that of course influences them. I can't fight with them everyday, and every school day can't end in tears, so they got the deciding vote. They know this is a short term plan and we can course correct if it goes badly.
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Post by azucena on Jul 17, 2020 8:50:46 GMT -5
Had some tough conversations with both kids about upcoming school and then more detail with DD11 than DD7. I'm struggling with how much to tell them about how much of this feels like it could change at any moment given that they are pretty young and need stability.
Our public schools announce plans on Monday. Our private school announced 7/7 pushing for in-person if at all possible. I kinda keep thinking in my head that I can resort to pulling them out if it feels like too much and getting their assignments from the school and then working thru them on our own to create our own hybrid homeschool. Or I wish things would become clearly bad to force them online, but that seems like a rotten thing to wish.
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Post by azucena on Jul 17, 2020 8:58:19 GMT -5
Treading carefully because I don't want to delve into politics in this safe space that we've created, but I need a place to vent. I watched the ABC interview of Mary Trump last night (it's on hulu) and found it fascinating. She's clearly educated - she has a Phd in psychology I think. Her insights seemed so accurate to me. DH is skeptical that she's in it for the money. Then, he made a comment about not being able to vote for Biden. I kept asking him to stop talking because I really didn't want to hear what comes next and I can't unhear it. He pushed further and made it sound like he's leaning towards not voting because he doesn't think Biden is a good choice. What?! Again, now I can't unhear that. It makes me sick to think that his no vote is really a vote in the other direction. We don't tend to talk politics since neither of us are particularly interested. I kept telling him to stop stirring the pot on fb when he comments on random news stories and then it shows up in my feed. I'm pretty sure he's not a great judge of news bias and that's also frustrating. Some comments he makes about the pandemic are also suspect so we've taken to not discussing it and fortunately so far he follows my lead about 'safety' because I can't stress enough how important it is to maintaining my anxiety at some reasonable level.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jul 17, 2020 9:13:51 GMT -5
They have stability in you, your love and that you've got their back.
The situation however is a shit show.
Our district just delayed opening by 11 days. Theyll hopefully release something of their online plan today. I know the real reason I presented a homeschool option to the kids was because I wanted to feel like I was in control. You'd think I'd learn to get over that by now.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 17, 2020 9:21:11 GMT -5
DH did not vote last year. He claimed he could not support either candidate and besides what did it matter Clinton would win anyhow. That backfired in his and every else who did not vote's face.
We've talked about it and I said if you do not vote this year I do not want to hear ANYTHING from you should Trump get elected because as we all saw in 2016 apparently your vote actually does matter. You lose all rights to complain if you don't vote because NOT voting as we have seen is just as bad as you actually voting for the man. I normally do not let politics divide us but voting this year is a hill I am willing to die on.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jul 17, 2020 9:28:30 GMT -5
Dh and I agree on politics and I still won't talk about them with him. We're both passionate so I can't say that's the difference. I just don't like the why behind his reasoning I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2020 9:57:51 GMT -5
Carrot is super flexible. He's 100% behind leaving the school (that he LOVES) for online public or the private, which actually makes things harder for me. If he'd broke down in tears about one or more options I would have crossed them off the list.
As for politics. I hate the idea of Biden, but I won't vote for Trump by not voting or picking some obscure 3rd party candidate either. I don't know WHY it's so hard for the dems to find a solid candidate that disgruntled republicans could also feel good about backing.
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Post by azucena on Jul 17, 2020 9:58:52 GMT -5
Nice to get so much support. I relate to both of your answers. I think part of what bothers me about DH is that he has so few reasons when I feel like I research and analyze things way more (likely to an unhealthy level sometimes).
Hard to realize that the deep political divide is even happening in marriages.
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Post by finnime on Jul 17, 2020 10:09:01 GMT -5
My DH and I are aligned on political points of view, although there are times I need to remind him of his privilege. He is open to recognizing that as a white man some issues escape his notice. Someone who doesn't invest anything in reaching an opinion would frustrate me, definitely. I feel that there are/were better choices than Biden, but he is the only choice when the other option is trump. I miss so much a presidency that represented all its people.
I feel torn with you all with younger children, trying to figure out how to negotiate this upcoming school year. The one thing is clear: there is no going back to 'normal'.
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Post by geenamercile on Jul 17, 2020 10:15:35 GMT -5
I need to talk to the girls about school. Right now I put in the survey the school sent out for virtual learning with them, this one was non binding. I also filled out the the survey from my district to be a vitrual teacher. With DH having asthma, diabetes, and high blood pressure I fall under the having someone that I live with. I mean while I don't want to be in a relationship with him, I don't want to bring something home to kill him either. I have no idea how I will be able to do my job, the parts I enjoy and the reason why I want to be a teacher virtual. I have a feeling I will end up with lots of paperwork aspect so others who are doing the hybrid can focus on that. I choose the virtual thru the school option instead of full homeschooling to simply be easier on me. I can always supplement and support the girls as well. Hopefully both of my districts will make a vote next week on what we are actually doing. Several districts around us have gone full virtual for the first nine weeks.
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Post by geenamercile on Jul 17, 2020 10:27:14 GMT -5
I don't think people realize how not normal the in class room portion will be. We are talking about having students in their seats all day, the same seat. Teachers will move from classroom to classroom. There will be no group projects or moving around, going up to the white board to solve things, talking in the hallway with friends between classes. Lunch will be at the same desk they have been in all day. I have no idea how my kids with ADHD and need movement breaks will do. I have no idea how my kids with Aut who needs that solid structure and routine handle what will be 1 day in school for each class. Or how will they handle it when their classroom or school is suddenly closed for 2 weeks due to needing to quarantine. I worry about next year, and the year after that and even more down the road on how many kids I will have with ED because they lost a classmate or teacher during the year, or they brought it home from school and that lead to the death of a family member. What survive guilt will some of these kids have.
As a parent I can not imagine my 9 year old doing well with what the in class room will look like. I can't see her not wanting to interact with her friends in the classroom, my little one who wants and is willing to share anything with someone, being reminded that she can't give her friend who doesn't have a pencil one of her extras. She loves school, and I would rather her keep that love for when she can goes back, then have a year that kills it.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jul 17, 2020 10:34:01 GMT -5
Well, my school district is going with all virtual to start. And they're keeping the separate start dates. So I've got 1 who starts Mid August and 1 who starts in early Sept. Joy.
When covid decreases, they'll move to a 2in, 3 out system. With everyone back in the classroom when conditions allow. No timelines, which is both good and bad. Good, in that it implies they're going to be stats/science driven and bad because I have to explain it to the kids.
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Post by oped on Jul 17, 2020 10:59:36 GMT -5
Carrot is super flexible. He's 100% behind leaving the school (that he LOVES) for online public or the private, which actually makes things harder for me. If he'd broke down in tears about one or more options I would have crossed them off the list. As for politics. I hate the idea of Biden, but I won't vote for Trump by not voting or picking some obscure 3rd party candidate either. I don't know WHY it's so hard for the dems to find a solid candidate that disgruntled republicans could also feel good about backing. Well all of the anti trump republicans I follow were for Biden. Also minorities supported Biden overwhelmingly, at least when it came to the choices I was left with. He's not my favorite. But we'll survive him... probably even get back on an even keel.
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