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Post by zibazinski on Jan 14, 2019 20:42:03 GMT -5
geenamercile - Yes, I'm sure this is about the overnights from a different angle.Ā He's also always wanted him to go through the Catholic school system, so anything to attack the Montessori he jumps on.Ā He feels they're being negligent and not preparing him the way they're supposed to.Ā Anyhow, I did write the director of the school and he got back to me within a couple hours.Ā This is what he wrote: It is true that we teach the students to write in cursive first, then how to read in print. The focus for writing remains on cursive as they move forward.
I spoke with [Teacher and assistant teacher] , and what I took away from the discussion is that Carrot:
Ā Ā Ā -can write in cursive well enough to fill out his journal entries in legible cursive, using Capital letter and Ā Ā Ā Ā Punctuation appropriately
Ā Ā Ā -yes he does write in all caps when he prints, and when they have asked him to use lower case letters in print he Ā Ā Ā Ā claims that he doesn't know them-Mariah said he does know them but struggles to compose them-in other words Ā Ā Ā Ā his cursive is much neater and better formed
Ā Ā Ā -Carrot writes slowly, and he says his hand gets "tired" quickly---this is the result of his unorthodox pencil grip. Ā Ā Ā Ā Mariah has tried several interventions with him, including the use of pencil grips to try and help him with his Ā Ā Ā Ā grip---those tools have served more as distractions then aides, and have been unsuccessful to this point.
My feeling is that this is an attitude vs aptitude issue-It seems that Carrot has the tools to do the work and is capable in every way. His cursive is legible and he understands/uses capitalization and punctuation correctly, but refuses to change his pencil grip even though several interventions have been attempted. I think it makes sense that when he prints he writes in upper case as it is easier, especially with his grip.
Moving forward, they can continue to work on his pencil grip and can make it an increased point of emphasis to teach him how to compose the lower case letters in print if that is the true issue but his ability to communicate in writing does not appear to be the issue.
If you have other questions or would like to come discuss this, please let me know. That invitation would extend to Ex 2.0 as well.
Please let me know how you would like us to proceed.
Wow. My children went to public schools and I admit it's been a long time, but I can't imagine I would have gotten a detailed and informative response like this from anyone at their school. Especially not within a couple of hours. I am impressed! Montessori is an expensive private school. Iād be surprised if thereād been any less of a response.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 20:52:37 GMT -5
Wow. My children went to public schools and I admit it's been a long time, but I can't imagine I would have gotten a detailed and informative response like this from anyone at their school. Especially not within a couple of hours. I am impressed! Montessori is an expensive private school. Iād be surprised if thereād been any less of a response. Ours is a public charter.
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Post by chapeau on Jan 14, 2019 21:19:38 GMT -5
Wow. My children went to public schools and I admit it's been a long time, but I can't imagine I would have gotten a detailed and informative response like this from anyone at their school. Especially not within a couple of hours. I am impressed! Montessori is an expensive private school. Iād be surprised if thereād been any less of a response. Montessori is a method of teaching. Some of the schools that use the method are private and some are public.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 23:21:42 GMT -5
zibazinski My children actually went to a Montessori elementary school too, but it was part of the public school system. I think it was the only public Montessori school in the city at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 23:31:44 GMT -5
I always knew our school was the first charter Montessori in the United States, but I found out today it was the first charter period. That's pretty cool.
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Post by zibazinski on Jan 15, 2019 6:45:46 GMT -5
I wanted DD in Montessori but it was so expensive and her dad said that once she got into public school (as it was only a pre-k program) sheād have to do what everyone else was doing whether she wanted to or not so I didnāt put her in it. I found it a fascinating concept.
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Post by gs11rmb on Jan 15, 2019 8:33:17 GMT -5
My girls attend a public Montessori elementary, one of two in the county. The oldest is heading to middle school next year and I'm sad that is the end of Montessori, I've been very happy with the teaching method.
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Post by geenamercile on Jan 15, 2019 13:29:24 GMT -5
Helped DH do some cleaning today. The girls are mostly tired of snow now. But then it is beginning to go away too. We will see what this weekend brings.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jan 15, 2019 14:23:59 GMT -5
What do your schools do for inside recess days and how often do they have inside recess (when is it called?)
I think ours is if its under 20 degrees (real temp or with wind chill) or if its actually snowing/raining. Since C only gets 1 recess a day, it isn't actually that much time, but before school they have to sit in the hallway and read and at lunch recess they watch a movie in the classroom. I'm not sure that there is a better solution since other classes have gym when lunch recess is happening so the gym isn't available, but I also cannot imagine being in a building with 300+ kids who haven't been outside all day.
I started to feel bad that I made us walk to school when I realized how cold it was yesterday until I realized it was the only fresh air and exercise they were going to have for hours. (The kids didn't mind--it was probably 15 degrees or so. I don't think we would have walked if it was single digits).
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jan 15, 2019 14:31:46 GMT -5
I think DS's school does indoor recess when it is in the 30s. I don't know what exactly they do - I think it depends on what's available space wise. I know DS has told me about playing with LEGOS during indoor recess.
Playing outside in 20-degree weather sounds like torture to me, and yes you were mean for making them walk in 15-degree weather. *but for real, I'm not voluntarily outside in anything less than 40-degrees.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 14:51:51 GMT -5
The cut off for our school is 20 degrees. Otherwise it's the gym or they make them do laps in the hallway that goes around the gym. Before school care is always in the gym. After school care is with the Y, and I'm not sure what their cutoff is for going outside since they bus my kid to the Y for swimming every day.
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Post by gs11rmb on Jan 15, 2019 14:54:00 GMT -5
I think it's mandatory indoor recess if it's below 32 but teachers frequently keep the kids inside when the temperature is in the 30s. Go Noodle is very popular on those days to get the kids' wiggles out.
ETA - we're in the South and there are kids that really don't have the appropriate coats for weather much below 40 degrees.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 15:11:07 GMT -5
We have clothing rules too. I'm not sure what they all are offhand but at a certain temp they have to have a winter coat, then hat and gloves/mittens. At the coldest they need to be decked out in snowpants and if there's snow they need to be wearing boots. If they don't have them they either can hit up the lost and found for a loaner or have inside recess.
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Post by chapeau on Jan 15, 2019 15:33:41 GMT -5
DD gets mad at her teacher because she doesnāt like cold, so if the temperature is below 40 or so (or really windy), she makes her class do inside recess but the other classes go out. It kind of annoys me, too. DD needs to get out and run. Although I sort of get the teacherās feelings, I wouldnāt want to be trapped in a classroom with 25 kids with ants in their pants. Although there are a few kids who donāt seem to have cold weather gear. Like the family that moved here from California and started at the school in October. Iāve never seen those kids in anything heavier than a sweatshirt and never ever a pair of gloves.
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Post by tcu2003 on Jan 15, 2019 15:48:24 GMT -5
I donāt know the specifics for when the kids are inside outside of rain, or snow/sleet/ice on the playground, but in kindergarten, they played Legos, games or go noodle when hey had indoor recess. For first grade, they do games. The teacher has a pretty big assortment, and her wish item on the Giving tree at Christmas was for new games for indoor recess, so we bought some new ones for the classroom. I also happened to volunteer one indoor recess day, and saw that two of the three first grade classes were in one classroom, so the kids still got to interact with kids/friends from one of the other classes.
C does before and after Y-Care at school, and they always have gym time, so I am very appreciative that even on crappy weather days, he still gets opportunities to get the wiggles out.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jan 15, 2019 18:04:21 GMT -5
We are hard core. Wind chills have to below zero or raining for indoor recess. Otherwise, it is outside. If there is snow, you need snowpants and boots to get off the pavement. If you have boots, you can play on the pavement. No pants or boots, you get to stand next to the wall.
Indoor recess is in the gym.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jan 15, 2019 18:21:38 GMT -5
We are hard core. Wind chills have to below zero or raining for indoor recess. Otherwise, it is outside. If there is snow, you need snowpants and boots to get off the pavement. If you have boots, you can play on the pavement. No pants or boots, you get to stand next to the wall. Indoor recess is in the gym. oh my god--I love it! But I cannot fathom actually getting 40 kindy's and 40-50 first graders in snow pants and snow boots in time to get outside for recess. Although that would probably be less work than trying to supervise each grade in their own room for indoor recess.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jan 15, 2019 18:25:33 GMT -5
I think DS's school does indoor recess when it is in the 30s. I don't know what exactly they do - I think it depends on what's available space wise. I know DS has told me about playing with LEGOS during indoor recess.
Playing outside in 20-degree weather sounds like torture to me, and yes you were mean for making them walk in 15-degree weather. *but for real, I'm not voluntarily outside in anything less than 40-degrees. Before winter break the kids dressed in what they called "ultimate winter survival protocol." Hat and gloves, hoodie over the hat, and coat zipped over the hoodie. Today, C comes in and tells me no one needs more than a sweatshirt to walk to school. It was 20. I made him take his coat, much to his chagrin, and he wore a hat and thin gloves, but he was fine in just a hoodie.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Jan 15, 2019 18:33:30 GMT -5
We are hard core. Wind chills have to below zero or raining for indoor recess. Otherwise, it is outside. If there is snow, you need snowpants and boots to get off the pavement. If you have boots, you can play on the pavement. No pants or boots, you get to stand next to the wall. Indoor recess is in the gym. oh my god--I love it!Ā Ā But I cannot fathom actually getting 40 kindy's and 40-50 first graders in snow pants and snow boots in time to get outside for recess.Ā Although that would probably be less work than trying to supervise each grade in their own room for indoor recess.Ā Ā I think they just get used to it. Like if I want this time, I have to move. I don't know that for a fact, but that is my impression, that it quickly becomes habit. I know for after lunch recess, as soon as kids are done with lunch, it is back to the cubby areas to change and go outside.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jan 15, 2019 19:05:32 GMT -5
We are hard core. Wind chills have to below zero or raining for indoor recess. Otherwise, it is outside. If there is snow, you need snowpants and boots to get off the pavement. If you have boots, you can play on the pavement. No pants or boots, you get to stand next to the wall. Indoor recess is in the gym. This is what my sister describes. Sister says they keep extra clothes as she teaches Pre-K. There's also the lost and found. Her school was enlarged since last school year, so indoor recess is now in the gym. Prior to this year, it was in the classroom. When I picked up great niece at day care, I remember seeing the kids playing in the snow.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 15, 2019 19:21:00 GMT -5
We are hard core. Wind chills have to below zero or raining for indoor recess. Otherwise, it is outside. If there is snow, you need snowpants and boots to get off the pavement. If you have boots, you can play on the pavement. No pants or boots, you get to stand next to the wall. Indoor recess is in the gym. Same here. If the cut off was the 20s or 30s kids wouldn't go outside close to six months of the year. This is the first year it's snowed enough to need snow pants. Si naturally this was the first year I did not buy them.š
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Post by chapeau on Jan 15, 2019 20:07:49 GMT -5
We are hard core. Wind chills have to below zero or raining for indoor recess. Otherwise, it is outside. If there is snow, you need snowpants and boots to get off the pavement. If you have boots, you can play on the pavement. No pants or boots, you get to stand next to the wall. Indoor recess is in the gym. Same here. If the cut off was the 20s or 30s kids wouldn't go outside close to six months of the year. This is the first year it's snowed enough to need snow pants. Si naturally this was the first year I did not buy them.š Iām looking for snow pants for me. The local stores were out before thanksgiving.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 22:23:49 GMT -5
We are hard core. Wind chills have to below zero or raining for indoor recess. Otherwise, it is outside. If there is snow, you need snowpants and boots to get off the pavement. If you have boots, you can play on the pavement. No pants or boots, you get to stand next to the wall. Indoor recess is in the gym. Yeah, Carrot corrected me tonight when I brought it up. He said it's zero degrees not 20. My brain is not working right lately. They would be in half the winter if it was 20.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jan 15, 2019 22:28:54 GMT -5
We are hard core. Wind chills have to below zero or raining for indoor recess. Otherwise, it is outside. If there is snow, you need snowpants and boots to get off the pavement. If you have boots, you can play on the pavement. No pants or boots, you get to stand next to the wall. Indoor recess is in the gym. Yeah, Carrot corrected me tonight when I brought it up. He said it's zero degrees not 20. My brain is not working right lately. They would be in half the winter if it was 20. Our 20 degrees is nothing to your 20 degrees with wind. I really hope dh makes it to MN with us this year and that we do it when it's still freezing. Just so he can realize once and for all that we could never survive Canada.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Jan 15, 2019 22:31:11 GMT -5
Our issue is not the cold but the rain. We generally have outside covered play areas otherwise our little kids wouldn't get outdoor recess very often. We do have gyms for indoor recess if necessary.
We don't even buy our kids winter coats, but we do buy them rainboots.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Jan 16, 2019 11:35:41 GMT -5
I think it's 10 degrees at my kids school. But the kids said something about the maintenance folks not using deicer/salt/sand stuff on the playground so they had to stay inside.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 12:53:01 GMT -5
Our school was keeping them in last week because of mud! What a crazy freaking January we're having. But looks like coming back to the sub-zero temps very soon.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Jan 16, 2019 16:32:50 GMT -5
y'all are nuts! I'm sure DS wouldn't mind running around in 20-30 degree weather, but my ass is staying INSIDE! Yes I know I've lived in the NE my entire life, but NOPE NOPE NOPE!!!
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Jan 16, 2019 17:59:04 GMT -5
y'all are nuts! I'm sure DS wouldn't mind running around in 20-30 degree weather, but my ass is staying INSIDE! Yes I know I've lived in the NE my entire life, but NOPE NOPE NOPE!!! I'm with you. I really would love to move somewhere warm. One of these days maybe I'll get there
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Post by geenamercile on Jan 18, 2019 9:32:27 GMT -5
Glad I am off for a dentist appointment today. E called me around 3 am hadn't been able to fall asleep at all. Yesterday when I got home he was doing major cleaning around the house. Which is appreciated but it is being powered by a feeling of; I am useless, I don't deserve anything, if I died tomorrow the world will be better off. This is about the time he found out that one of his friends 4 years ago committed suicide and he heavily blames himself for it. He hasn't told me why fully, but knowing him I am guessing he said some pretty hard things to her. I have read the first page of the letter that she sent to him right before she did it, but not the other two. It does seem to be getting better each year, now that I have 3 to compare to. But Saturday we have the funeral of a good family friend. One of the first who really welcomed him when he started coming down, it was at her house that we had his 18th birthday party and her son has become best friend. The snow has put a halt to his pallet furniture plans, and for someone who thrives in the woods we aren't getting out there like we use to once a month to recenter. Of course after I talk to him enough to shut down his brain at 5am, ODD is up wanting eggs and tea. I got back to bed around 6 and slept a bit more till 8. 2 hour delay for YDD and luckily my appointment is still on as the dentist is opening late and the ones before opening will be rescheduled. Or at least the voice mail said when I called this morning to confirm that they are open.
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