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Post by Pants on Oct 24, 2018 12:43:46 GMT -5
So, I've lost my mind (in more ways than one). DH is refusing to consider a more fuel efficient car when get replaces his here shortly. And he won't drive the "family" car either. So I went looking and the Pacifica Hybrid would give me the minivan that I want + the EV car that I could get cool perks from work on (including rockstar parking and free charging everyday). I contacted the dealer we last bought our car from to see if he could work with me on another brand or if he had a place to recommend me to. Screw it. I am going to get the car *I* want. If you can afford it, I fully support you. As usual your husband is a dick.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Oct 24, 2018 12:46:10 GMT -5
I can't afford it in YM terms. I can afford the payments - they will actually be less than what I have now + the reduced gas costs. Should be a wash or in my favor.
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Post by gs11rmb on Oct 24, 2018 12:50:24 GMT -5
So, I've lost my mind (in more ways than one). DH is refusing to consider a more fuel efficient car when get replaces his here shortly. And he won't drive the "family" car either. So I went looking and the Pacifica Hybrid would give me the minivan that I want + the EV car that I could get cool perks from work on (including rockstar parking and free charging everyday). I contacted the dealer we last bought our car from to see if he could work with me on another brand or if he had a place to recommend me to. Screw it. I am going to get the car *I* want. Does that mean you'll have two car payments? Don't get me wrong, I think you're DH is being a butt-head... however, adding two car payments into your already rather stretched budget doesn't seem very wise. ETA - Pants beat me to it!
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Oct 24, 2018 12:55:26 GMT -5
C turned 9 yesterday. He didn't want cake but did want blue moon ice cream. He didn't want us to sing because he'd been sung to twice at school. And he wanted fish sticks and kraft mac and cheese for dinner. Kids are strange.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Oct 24, 2018 13:07:57 GMT -5
Lizard Queen I'd talk to the school and ask what they recommend. How are his social skills? My youngest daughter was born on September 1st, the cut-off date. She is the absolute youngest in her grade. She definitely was at the lower-range of social skills in PreK and K and I would never have contemplated skipping a grade (also, there was no academic reason for her to move up anyway ). But, your son is at the opposite end, being one of the oldest in his grade so he might be socially on par with the 1st graders or close enough that it doesn't really matter. I understand that you're concerned about him becoming bored but don't underestimate the impact of having social skills that are noticeably less well developed than his classmates. That can make things very difficult. They aren't the best. Sometimes, he's kind of shy and clingy. Yet, he hangs out with all kinds of older kids, and seems to prefer them. I think that's how he picked up math--by playing pokemon with them. (I may be wrong, as I'm not sure how to play. There's numbers on cards that determine things, I think.) He's stubborn, independent, sometimes aggressive and dismissive. His teacher says his behavior in school is good. I guess the boys in class worked on establishing a hierarchy at the beginning of the year, but that has been squelched. Anyway, I definitely believe he belongs in kindergarten this year because of these things. Next year, when they focus a lot more on math and reading, he's going to be bored silly. I would talk to the school about what they do to challenge kids. Our school has a great enrichment program with different reading groups for each level in the class starting in kindergarten, then the teachers will teach more advanced math if the class is wanting it. By 3rd grade they have an official enrichment class, Ben gets a separate math class once a week (with 30 of his classmates), a separate reading group and his enrichment class. So social studies, science and "specials" are at grade level and he has to "pass" his grade level math, but he gets more challenging math and reading, plus his LEO class (which has 4 programs throughout the year). Obviously he is in a school that has a lot of gifted kids and they promote that extensively (part of the reason we chose the school district). So,I wouldn't necessarily ask about skipping grades, but what enrichment opportunities they can provide.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Oct 24, 2018 13:09:01 GMT -5
I can't afford it in YM terms. I can afford the payments - they will actually be less than what I have now + the reduced gas costs. Should be a wash or in my favor. What about insurance and registration fees?
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Post by muttleynfelix on Oct 24, 2018 13:15:45 GMT -5
Speaking of cars, my husband has been making comments that my car is a POS and he wants me to drive something nicer. So started looking online and I found a 2015 Hyundai Santa Fe in town with less than 40k miles and less than $15k. We should be able to afford it, but I don't want 2 car payments. Plus our general savings is too low right now to do anything, but now I have a case of the wants. I've always said I would keep my car until Ben is 16 (7+ more years). It only has 90k miles, but is 12 years old. The A.C. is struggling, the cruise control is shot, and is just showing its age, but really there is no reason for me to get a new car. None. It is a dumb decision, but now I have the case of the wants.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 13:23:16 GMT -5
Lizard Queen I'd talk to the school and ask what they recommend. How are his social skills? My youngest daughter was born on September 1st, the cut-off date. She is the absolute youngest in her grade. She definitely was at the lower-range of social skills in PreK and K and I would never have contemplated skipping a grade (also, there was no academic reason for her to move up anyway ). But, your son is at the opposite end, being one of the oldest in his grade so he might be socially on par with the 1st graders or close enough that it doesn't really matter. I understand that you're concerned about him becoming bored but don't underestimate the impact of having social skills that are noticeably less well developed than his classmates. That can make things very difficult. My 16 year old has always been the youngest in his class because his birthday was just a few weeks before the cutoff. He struggled socially enough as it was and skipping a grade would have been really bad, even though academically he was off the charts. He was one that seriously started reading before he was 3 and by first grade was reading chapter books, but socially? Very behind. Eventually they all just seemed to even out academically and socially. He still is a little stunted in the social skills with peers, but it's a lot better.
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Post by raeoflyte on Oct 24, 2018 13:24:23 GMT -5
The behavioral and responsibility expectations have changed a ton since I was in school. By 3rd grade there is no homework reminder or parental sign off. The kids sink or swim on their own as it were. They get in trouble for not actively listening in class (picking fingernails, staring out the window). Add in that they only get 1 20 minute recess a day, which half the time they can't just go play on recess, they have to play the instructor led game which is just more time they have to be in classroom mode and I'm amazed more kids don't crack.
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Post by andi9899 on Oct 24, 2018 13:25:09 GMT -5
Wondering how to broach the subject of my kid skipping a grade next year with the school. I feel like he's good staying in kindergarten, because it's more fun and he does need to work on writing. Plus, I feel like the soft skills they work on in K is stuff he really needs, like getting along with others, being patient with himself/others, and making friends. But, 1 1/2 months in, he's reading at a solidly 1st grade, maybe even 2nd grade level, when I barely worked with him on reading at all. He's picking up a little multiplication, and apparently can subtract 20 from 64, stuff like that. Meanwhile, his teacher is informing me he can do addition for 5's. I know that--he's way beyond that! I'm afraid that, if he continues to be so far ahead of the others, he's going to be bored and disruptive next year when the classroom is much more academically focused. Thing 1 was exactly like this. She eventually did become disruptive because she was bored. I told the teacher we needed to figure something out soon because she's not being challenged enough. We tried the higher grade for a couple of weeks to see how she did and she did well, so we kept her there.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Oct 24, 2018 13:27:47 GMT -5
I can't afford it in YM terms. I can afford the payments - they will actually be less than what I have now + the reduced gas costs. Should be a wash or in my favor. What about insurance and registration fees? I may have to sell a child for those j/k.
ETA - I am not worried about DH's payments. I can cover these, which I do now. If he wants a new car then he can be responsible for how to do it.
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Post by gs11rmb on Oct 24, 2018 13:38:38 GMT -5
What about insurance and registration fees? I may have to sell a child for those j/k.
ETA - I am not worried about DH's payments. I can cover these, which I do now. If he wants a new car then he can be responsible for how to do it.
That sounds great but knowing your husband as I do , I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a new car with higher payments and just contributes even less to your household budget.
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Post by andi9899 on Oct 24, 2018 13:42:46 GMT -5
So, I've lost my mind (in more ways than one). DH is refusing to consider a more fuel efficient car when get replaces his here shortly. And he won't drive the "family" car either. So I went looking and the Pacifica Hybrid would give me the minivan that I want + the EV car that I could get cool perks from work on (including rockstar parking and free charging everyday). I contacted the dealer we last bought our car from to see if he could work with me on another brand or if he had a place to recommend me to. Screw it. I am going to get the car *I* want. For someone with mouths to feed who is not the breadwinner of the family, your husband sure does refuse to do a lot of things. Before you get a hybrid beware that if one of those batteries goes, it will likely cost several thousand dollars to replace. Your insurance will not pay for it. Be sure to ask the salesman about it or someone with that type of car before you get one.
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Post by cktc on Oct 24, 2018 14:49:08 GMT -5
I've heard it's better to expand outward than to go up when kids are ahead in school. So add some more enrichment activities, gifted program, music, foreign language, that sort of thing.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 24, 2018 14:59:48 GMT -5
The behavioral and responsibility expectations have changed a ton since I was in school. By 3rd grade there is no homework reminder or parental sign off. The kids sink or swim on their own as it were. They get in trouble for not actively listening in class (picking fingernails, staring out the window). Add in that they only get 1 20 minute recess a day, which half the time they can't just go play on recess, they have to play the instructor led game which is just more time they have to be in classroom mode and I'm amazed more kids don't crack. My older son is in 3rd grade, and doesn't really have any homework to remember. The math sheets he almost always finishes in class, and the only other thing is reading for 20 minutes a day. His classroom doesn't even have assigned seats. They have a variety of areas that they can sit in, and switch where they are sitting several times a day. In that environment, I don't think they'd mind him picking his fingernails or looking out the window. My kindergartener has a half-sheet per day of homework. He finishes the whole week within 5-10 minutes, and reads the instructions himself.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 24, 2018 15:02:12 GMT -5
I've heard it's better to expand outward than to go up when kids are ahead in school. So add some more enrichment activities, gifted program, music, foreign language, that sort of thing. I wish they had more of that in school, but we do sports and cub scouts. It's already a really full after school schedule that we all get tired of.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 24, 2018 15:11:19 GMT -5
You got to understand that, if this year were primarily about academics, it would be a complete and utter waste of time for him. They're starting to attempt to read very simple sentences, when I rarely have to help him read words in 1st or 2nd grade books. But the clincher was that they are supposed to count to 20, and break down numbers up to 5 into two component parts (like 3+2). Meanwhile, we're discussing things like multiplying 100 x 100, and division. Oh yeah, he already understands how negative numbers work! That was a concept that took me a while to get in 6th/7th grade!
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Post by raeoflyte on Oct 24, 2018 15:18:38 GMT -5
You got to understand that, if this year were primarily about academics, it would be a complete and utter waste of time for him. They're starting to attempt to read very simple sentences, when I rarely have to help him read words in 1st or 2nd grade books. But the clincher was that they are supposed to count to 20, and break down numbers up to 5 into two component parts (like 3+2). Meanwhile, we're discussing things like multiplying 100 x 100, and division. Oh yeah, he already understands how negative numbers work! That was a concept that took me a while to get in 6th/7th grade! I'd be going nuts if I didn't feel like the teachers were aware of where my kid was at and weren't working with them to help them excel from that level.
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Post by zibazinski on Oct 24, 2018 15:25:47 GMT -5
Teachers always taught to the middle of the class. Where most students are. I can remember DS in 3rd grade was way ahead math wise and it was suggested I put him in a private school because public schools didn't have to accommodate him.
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Post by finnime on Oct 24, 2018 15:26:03 GMT -5
Lizard Queen, it sounds like he definitely will need a higher level of instruction than is usual for first grade. My DS24 was doing similar math in K5 and they wound up working with him on algebra in second grade, as well as writing a book in first grade. We moved to a district with a phenomenal program for the highly gifted and he attended magnet programs through graduation. His senior year in high school was only AP Physics and literature; he'd gone through differential equations already. I'm really glad he was able to get what he needed while in public school. It makes a huge difference.
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Post by muttleynfelix on Oct 24, 2018 16:50:30 GMT -5
Oh hello. My market leader just asked me to join his senior leadership team. Cool.
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Post by cktc on Oct 24, 2018 16:56:11 GMT -5
I've heard it's better to expand outward than to go up when kids are ahead in school. So add some more enrichment activities, gifted program, music, foreign language, that sort of thing. I wish they had more of that in school, but we do sports and cub scouts. It's already a really full after school schedule that we all get tired of. Yeah I wouldn't think adding more after school would help much. Hopefully they have some stuff they can offer that they don't advertise, or the teacher can come up with some extra assignments to keep him engaged.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 24, 2018 19:30:51 GMT -5
You got to understand that, if this year were primarily about academics, it would be a complete and utter waste of time for him. They're starting to attempt to read very simple sentences, when I rarely have to help him read words in 1st or 2nd grade books. But the clincher was that they are supposed to count to 20, and break down numbers up to 5 into two component parts (like 3+2). Meanwhile, we're discussing things like multiplying 100 x 100, and division. Oh yeah, he already understands how negative numbers work! That was a concept that took me a while to get in 6th/7th grade! I'd be going nuts if I didn't feel like the teachers were aware of where my kid was at and weren't working with them to help them excel from that level. Like she said, the school focuses more on getting the kids that are behind extra help in order to catch up. I understand that there's only so much she can do with so many kids. I just wish there were more resources for the kids that are ahead. ODS had a special teacher that did some advanced math for 2nd graders, but they have nothing in place for 3rd graders. They're just kind of dropped back into grade level. Fortunately, his age is among the youngest in his grade, so it's not so much of a discrepancy in abilities.
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Post by tcu2003 on Oct 24, 2018 19:39:14 GMT -5
Oh hello. My market leader just asked me to join his senior leadership team. Cool. Sweet! Go you, your awesomeness!!
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Post by Lizard Queen on Oct 24, 2018 19:42:55 GMT -5
Lizard Queen , it sounds like he definitely will need a higher level of instruction than is usual for first grade. My DS24 was doing similar math in K5 and they wound up working with him on algebra in second grade, as well as writing a book in first grade. We moved to a district with a phenomenal program for the highly gifted and he attended magnet programs through graduation. His senior year in high school was only AP Physics and literature; he'd gone through differential equations already. I'm really glad he was able to get what he needed while in public school. It makes a huge difference. Oh wow, that is very impressive! I don't think that my kid is that incredibly advanced, but I really think he needs something more than what they normally provide. He definitely understands the broader math concepts that are normally taught years later (I was a bit shocked when I realized this), though he doesn't have all of the particulars memorized yet. He also isn't an easy kid to determine how to proceed with challenging him. He is not studious and/or obedient at all, though he behaves well in class. He wants to be entertained, so he claims not to know how to do something that he previously had no problem with if it's making him bored. This afternoon, he got one math problem I made up wrong, proceeded to argue with me about it, then cried. I tried doing Lexia reading program online with him, which is linked to the teacher to show her how quickly he can progress through it. (She mentioned he and one other student were the farthest along in it.) He knew the answers immediately, yet it kept cycling through the same questions just for repetition's sake. I was bored, too. ETA: I should add that what motivated him to learn how to read was the fact that I was letting him play on the internet, and he wanted to be able to navigate YouTube and various video games better. [img class="smile" alt=" " src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/embarrassed.png"] For a while, he sounded much like a 20-something YouTuber, narrating his games as he played.
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Post by raeoflyte on Oct 24, 2018 20:52:31 GMT -5
I'd be going nuts if I didn't feel like the teachers were aware of where my kid was at and weren't working with them to help them excel from that level. Like she said, the school focuses more on getting the kids that are behind extra help in order to catch up. I understand that there's only so much she can do with so many kids. I just wish there were more resources for the kids that are ahead. ODS had a special teacher that did some advanced math for 2nd graders, but they have nothing in place for 3rd graders. They're just kind of dropped back into grade level. Fortunately, his age is among the youngest in his grade, so it's not so much of a discrepancy in abilities. That is super frustrating and very odd to me. The kids school builds in time everyday in reading and math to focus on where the kid is at, in addition to the small group work by level. I'm guessing that the really mixed demographic played into the curriculum chosen. I hope you find a good solution.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Oct 24, 2018 21:40:35 GMT -5
I can't afford it in YM terms. I can afford the payments - they will actually be less than what I have now + the reduced gas costs. Should be a wash or in my favor. Eh, I can't afford anything in YM terms.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Oct 24, 2018 21:45:54 GMT -5
DD #2 had to explain to Northwestern why she was graduating a year early, so I'm just going to copy and paste that into here.
When it was time for me to start Kindergarten, I was devastated. I much preferred staying home to read books. I didn't want to continue going to school. My first grade teacher Miss Strong is still one of my favorite teachers. With her guidance, I loved school. However, as I adapted to demonstrating my reading skills and math fluency, I easily surpassed first grade work. I was sent to second grade for my core classes. In second grade, I was in a 2nd/3rd grade blended class. I simply spent the entire time doing third grade work.
The summer between my second and third grade year we moved to another small Oregon town. My parents enrolled me in third grade because technically I was still in the third grade. When we met with my teacher prior to school starting, we discovered the curriculum was the exact same curriculum as my previous school. My parents didn't want to add more stress to me as we'd just moved, so they decided to not officially have me skip a grade. Instead, I spent about half a day in fourth grade and half a day in third grade with my core subjects being in fourth grade. We continued this process through sixth grade.
The summer between my sixth and seventh grade year, my mother utilized our district's online summer school program and did a combination of homeschooling me with district's approved eighth grade math class.
As a seventh grader, I took Algebra I with the regular high class. I also had an additional class with our online alternative school for high school English I; this class took me two school years to complete as it was in addition to my full time school schedule and ten hours per week of dance class. In eighth grade, I completed Geometry and Spanish I in the regular high school classes. Going into my first official year of high school, I had four full-year credits completed. During my second year of high school, I completed eight full-year credits instead of the normal seven. During my third year of high school, which is this current school year, I have enough room in my schedule to take three regular high school classes and three college classes.
I will graduate in June 2019 after three school years of high school but still with a complete and advanced course load.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Oct 25, 2018 0:54:43 GMT -5
Anyhoo, that’s what we did with DD when she was academically advanced. What’s not specified is that she had/has massive anxiety. When she started intensive dance classes, her anxiety became manageable. But, that didn’t happen until fifth grade. That’s why we didn’t skip her a grade in the primary years.
Yesterday, she turned in her Northwestern application. She wore purple the whole day along with her NW sweatshirt. We find out December 1st if she’s accepted. I’m not optimistic.
Today was her six-month check for having her drivers license. She gets to have friends in the car with her now. I appreciate the state having that rule.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2018 7:49:15 GMT -5
Last year was parent teacher conferences for older son. It was the first time in 12 or 13 (I can't remember if preschool had them) years of PT conferences that I didn't get a single report of behavioral issues. His science teacher did mention he seems to be stressed out a lot. That's nothing new. He doesn't worry about anything until the last minute, then it's All. The. Drama. He just realized yesterday he's taking the ACT in two days and couldn't even tell you what subjects they're testing on. That's how much prep he's done. By tomorrow night he'll be in full freak out mode.
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