The kid thread: Planning, pregnancy & parenting

[Sam_2.0]

This may be something to look at, G&. Awana starts with the assumption that all children are evil and going to hell. www.libertybc.org/documents/Why_I_Believe_in_Awana.pdf Its in their workbooks starting at least in Kindergarten. www.awana.org/what-we-believe

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Sept 15, 2017 9:49:16 GMT -5 justme said:

Sept 15, 2017 9:32:16 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Wonder if that's what my mom got suckered into going to when she was 18.  She had a born again Christian friend who wanted her to come attend "church" with her. 

My mom said it was scary as heck and she grew up as a fire and brimstone Catholic.   The freaky factor got upped several notches when people started speaking in tongues.

She didn't hang out with that friend anymore after that.

I agreed to one of those things from a friend because it included free tickets to the sorta local NBA team I loved. Did not realize we were going to be preached too after the normal fans left. I naively got suckered into a break off group to talk about my soul. They quickly shoved me outside to where the pizza was when I asked, after they had been going on about only needing to ask for forgiveness once, whether that meant I could go kill people and still go to heaven because I asked to be forgiven that one time at a basketball game.

I was a brat.

They had a back room where you could go to confess your sins and be cleansed.   Mom said no way was she going back there after what she saw going on out front!   She was half expecting Manson to be hiding back there.

[Pants]

Sept 14, 2017 23:50:03 GMT -5 justme said:

Sept 14, 2017 23:04:23 GMT -5 Pants said:

Can see that. Right now it's just a kiddo class - they jump on the tramp, into the foam pit, do somersaults, etc. it's taught by a teenager who I assume trains at the gym. Which is totally fine! If she follows through and starts doing actual gymnastics I can see that being really important. Right now I'm just thrilled that she's willing to JUMP into a foam pit instead of being coerced to do it. So good for her!

Glad you found that! It's one of the biggest bummers of the sport - girls mostly peak well before they're 18 competiton wise so some coaches suck if you're not amazeballs by age 6. Which is sucks because so many can find fun in it for years without aiming fit Olympics.

Yeah - this is def one of my concerns. Like, I think it would be awesome for her to learn to do some floor work, bars, balance beam. For her confidence levels moving around in her body, being rewarded for being adventurous, that kind of stuff. But I don't want to do that with the expectation that she's going to compete and try to make it in the sport long-term because I don't think that's a realistic expectation of her or our family. 

[muttleynfelix]

Sept 15, 2017 9:50:39 GMT -5 Sam_2.0 said:

This may be something to look at, G&. Awana starts with the assumption that all children are evil and going to hell. www.libertybc.org/documents/Why_I_Believe_in_Awana.pdf Its in their workbooks starting at least in Kindergarten. www.awana.org/what-we-believe

Oh my. I need to thank my parents for raising me presbyterian.

I was raised in a fairly Catholic area with small numbers of evangelical churches. College in a small conservative town was eye opening to scarier versions of Christianity.

[muttleynfelix]

Sept 14, 2017 19:37:34 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Sept 14, 2017 15:46:43 GMT -5 muttleynfelix said:

My kids aren't in anything besides school at the moment. But it is a money issue. If I had an extra $100 a month they would back in gymnastics in a heartbeat, but I'm still trying to recover financially from the new AC unit. I was really pissed about baseball and soccer this summer. Neither were really interested when they were actually on the field, but gymnastics with the small classes and constantly moving worked for them.

I'm sort of done with my family. Ben has been better behaved lately, but DH has basically been sick for 3 weeks straight. 1st week was pain levels were unmanageable. The next week was an upset stomach and this past week has been a cold he can't shake. I have had very little down time. I've gotten out once without kids that wasn't grocery shopping or work and I've taken the kids out for significant stretches each weekend. DH needs to get his rear better, because I don't know if I can handle another weekend of just me and the kids another day him sick. I had to leave early this morning and DH was in bad shape, sleeping on the couch. So I made sure Ben was up and then told him he had to watch the clock and asked him what time he had to leave to make it to school on time. I'm sure DH was fine, but I had an 8am meeting with some headhaunchos in my office, so I couldn't afford to wait to get Ben to school myself to leave.

Sorry.  Hope your DH feels better soon.

Thanks. He was still bad this morning. It 7:40 and he still wasn't up yet.
Although he managed to help me sort the basement play room last night (so gross). I'm still struggling with the lack of downtime and instead of getting up early to run, I got up early and laid in bed and just read.

[cael]

Sept 14, 2017 19:08:37 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

Not into activities yet so not sure what amount is the correct amount...

I did say no to Gymboree but now that she is crawling my wife would like to sign her up. I think it is $80/month or something like that...

Once she turns 1 we will do swimming lessons (I felt 6 months was a bit too early).

Then we talked about other options : my wife did ballet and would like her to try (even if my wife hated it and ended up quitting - mostly because of the teacher) and for me she needs to play at least 1 musical instrument. She can pick, but she will need to do at least one.

Growing up my wife did : ballet, tennis.

I did: soccer, volleyball.

Also we both agreed with our schedules the limit is 1 activity per season...

Timing is our biggest problem but I did do swimming with A over the summer. Taking a break from it this month because we're so busy, but mostly I'm starting him on that so he learns to be comfortable in water and starts learning how to swim. "Drown proofing" him, as my mom's friend used to say, we learned how to swim in her pool when we were kids. We live across from a pond with a park he'll be spending time at, so him learning how to take care of himself in water is absolutely a priority.

The only activities I did as a kid was 3ish years of girl scouts, violin lessons and swim lessons, no sports. I tried playing basketball in middle school, but my mom wouldn't let me because she was afraid for my hands for violin seriously?? DH played hockey at school for like one year and loved it and did boy scouts for a year, only because his sister took him - otherwise no activities for him, his shit mother didn't care about that stuff or want to pay for it. A will get to try what he wants, within reason and he'll know he has to stick a session/season out if we sign him up for something. And no more than one or two at a time, I will not be that mother shuttling him to things every godamn night of the week.

And yeah, we'll push music definitely. We'll start him young, he can try whatever he wants. He already has a drum set and I have multiple violins and guitars, so unless he's literally totally devoid of any musical talent he'll be doing at least one instrument I hope.

[Deleted]

Sept 15, 2017 11:01:14 GMT -5 cael said:

I will not be that mother shuttling him to things every godamn night of the week.

I need to start recording all these for my "famous last words" journal.  

[zibazinski]

Sept 15, 2017 9:50:39 GMT -5 Sam_2.0 said:

This may be something to look at, G&. Awana starts with the assumption that all children are evil and going to hell. www.libertybc.org/documents/Why_I_Believe_in_Awana.pdf Its in their workbooks starting at least in Kindergarten. www.awana.org/what-we-believe

Unless your child is Damien from The Omen, I refuse to believe all children are going to hell. Talk about abuse.

[raeoflyte]

Sept 15, 2017 11:01:14 GMT -5 cael said:

Sept 14, 2017 19:08:37 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

Not into activities yet so not sure what amount is the correct amount...

I did say no to Gymboree but now that she is crawling my wife would like to sign her up. I think it is $80/month or something like that...

Once she turns 1 we will do swimming lessons (I felt 6 months was a bit too early).

Then we talked about other options : my wife did ballet and would like her to try (even if my wife hated it and ended up quitting - mostly because of the teacher) and for me she needs to play at least 1 musical instrument. She can pick, but she will need to do at least one.

Growing up my wife did : ballet, tennis.

I did: soccer, volleyball.

Also we both agreed with our schedules the limit is 1 activity per season...

Timing is our biggest problem but I did do swimming with A over the summer. Taking a break from it this month because we're so busy, but mostly I'm starting him on that so he learns to be comfortable in water and starts learning how to swim. "Drown proofing" him, as my mom's friend used to say, we learned how to swim in her pool when we were kids. We live across from a pond with a park he'll be spending time at, so him learning how to take care of himself in water is absolutely a priority.

The only activities I did as a kid was 3ish years of girl scouts, violin lessons and swim lessons, no sports. I tried playing basketball in middle school, but my mom wouldn't let me because she was afraid for my hands for violin seriously?? DH played hockey at school for like one year and loved it and did boy scouts for a year, only because his sister took him - otherwise no activities for him, his shit mother didn't care about that stuff or want to pay for it. A will get to try what he wants, within reason and he'll know he has to stick a session/season out if we sign him up for something. And no more than one or two at a time, I will not be that mother shuttling him to things every godamn night of the week.

And yeah, we'll push music definitely. We'll start him young, he can try whatever he wants. He already has a drum set and I have multiple violins and guitars, so unless he's literally totally devoid of any musical talent he'll be doing at least one instrument I hope.

One of the things I absolutely love about my parents is that they did this for me (especially by highschool before I had a license) without ever complaining or making me feel bad.  I had work, multiple bands, and theater which took up 6 days a week.  

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

I was bitching abou driving Gwen around and my mom goes "Oh you mean like picking you up at 11:30 pm after rehearsal?"   Touche mom.

[Lizard Queen]

Sept 15, 2017 12:02:27 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

Sept 15, 2017 11:01:14 GMT -5 cael said:

Timing is our biggest problem but I did do swimming with A over the summer. Taking a break from it this month because we're so busy, but mostly I'm starting him on that so he learns to be comfortable in water and starts learning how to swim. "Drown proofing" him, as my mom's friend used to say, we learned how to swim in her pool when we were kids. We live across from a pond with a park he'll be spending time at, so him learning how to take care of himself in water is absolutely a priority.

The only activities I did as a kid was 3ish years of girl scouts, violin lessons and swim lessons, no sports. I tried playing basketball in middle school, but my mom wouldn't let me because she was afraid for my hands for violin seriously?? DH played hockey at school for like one year and loved it and did boy scouts for a year, only because his sister took him - otherwise no activities for him, his shit mother didn't care about that stuff or want to pay for it. A will get to try what he wants, within reason and he'll know he has to stick a session/season out if we sign him up for something. And no more than one or two at a time, I will not be that mother shuttling him to things every godamn night of the week.

And yeah, we'll push music definitely. We'll start him young, he can try whatever he wants. He already has a drum set and I have multiple violins and guitars, so unless he's literally totally devoid of any musical talent he'll be doing at least one instrument I hope.

One of the things I absolutely love about my parents is that they did this for me (especially by highschool before I had a license) without ever complaining or making me feel bad.  I had work, multiple bands, and theater which took up 6 days a week.  

My parents allowed me to drive by myself on just a permit because they were sick of shuttling me around every night of the week!    (I was already 16, and just procrastinated on getting the full license, but still.)

[Deleted]

Sept 15, 2017 12:02:27 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

Sept 15, 2017 11:01:14 GMT -5 cael said:

Timing is our biggest problem but I did do swimming with A over the summer. Taking a break from it this month because we're so busy, but mostly I'm starting him on that so he learns to be comfortable in water and starts learning how to swim. "Drown proofing" him, as my mom's friend used to say, we learned how to swim in her pool when we were kids. We live across from a pond with a park he'll be spending time at, so him learning how to take care of himself in water is absolutely a priority.

The only activities I did as a kid was 3ish years of girl scouts, violin lessons and swim lessons, no sports. I tried playing basketball in middle school, but my mom wouldn't let me because she was afraid for my hands for violin seriously?? DH played hockey at school for like one year and loved it and did boy scouts for a year, only because his sister took him - otherwise no activities for him, his shit mother didn't care about that stuff or want to pay for it. A will get to try what he wants, within reason and he'll know he has to stick a session/season out if we sign him up for something. And no more than one or two at a time, I will not be that mother shuttling him to things every godamn night of the week.

And yeah, we'll push music definitely. We'll start him young, he can try whatever he wants. He already has a drum set and I have multiple violins and guitars, so unless he's literally totally devoid of any musical talent he'll be doing at least one instrument I hope.

One of the things I absolutely love about my parents is that they did this for me (especially by highschool before I had a license) without ever complaining or making me feel bad.  I had work, multiple bands, and theater which took up 6 days a week.  

With younger kids I can see limiting to one or two nights a week.  But it's really not hard to end up committed to nearly every night once they hit high school (this is why I made him get his permit right away when he turned 15...I want this to be the last year I have to be hauling him around to things every single day).

Even if he was just in band and robotics it would be a lot.  Robotics is three days a week for 2.5 hours each time.  Marching band practices three mornings a week before school, mandatory playing in Pep band for the games, several concerts and out of town band competitions.  Then we throw in jazz band, speech team and scouts on top of that.  Honestly though, my kid is not in nearly as much as some of his peers.  I have NO IDEA how they do it.  There almost has to be a SAHP. 

[tcu2003]

Sept 15, 2017 12:02:27 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

Sept 15, 2017 11:01:14 GMT -5 cael said:

Timing is our biggest problem but I did do swimming with A over the summer. Taking a break from it this month because we're so busy, but mostly I'm starting him on that so he learns to be comfortable in water and starts learning how to swim. "Drown proofing" him, as my mom's friend used to say, we learned how to swim in her pool when we were kids. We live across from a pond with a park he'll be spending time at, so him learning how to take care of himself in water is absolutely a priority.

The only activities I did as a kid was 3ish years of girl scouts, violin lessons and swim lessons, no sports. I tried playing basketball in middle school, but my mom wouldn't let me because she was afraid for my hands for violin seriously?? DH played hockey at school for like one year and loved it and did boy scouts for a year, only because his sister took him - otherwise no activities for him, his shit mother didn't care about that stuff or want to pay for it. A will get to try what he wants, within reason and he'll know he has to stick a session/season out if we sign him up for something. And no more than one or two at a time, I will not be that mother shuttling him to things every godamn night of the week.

And yeah, we'll push music definitely. We'll start him young, he can try whatever he wants. He already has a drum set and I have multiple violins and guitars, so unless he's literally totally devoid of any musical talent he'll be doing at least one instrument I hope.

One of the things I absolutely love about my parents is that they did this for me (especially by highschool before I had a license) without ever complaining or making me feel bad.  I had work, multiple bands, and theater which took up 6 days a week.  

Ditto. And I wasn't in tons of activities, but with 2 kids, things you have to drive your kids to adds up. My sister and I were both active in youth group at church, so that was one or two nights a week, both did band, I did piano lessons, sister did tennis/track/softball (depending on year/season, those had little/no overlap), we bowled on a youth league for a while, and were active in numerous clubs in middle school and high school.

I'm already grumbly about how busy we are with both kids in swim (same night, so there's that), plus soccer and t-ball for C (thankfully they only overlap for 2-3 weeks), but I also try to schedule plenty of down time. I really want to put C in piano lessons, but it won't happen before sometime this winter if it happens this year - we need to finish soccer and t-ball, and I need to make sure he is adjusted to kindergarten and the schedule as he's still cranky most evenings/mornings.

[MJ2.0]

I was in a lot of things in high school, but at elementary I was in band (8 years old and up) and Girl Scouts.  My mom worked FT.  She had a great way of getting connected with the parents of other kids in my activities and would work out some sort of deal with them.  Like she would pick both of us up on X days and the other kid's mom would pick us up Y days.  When I swam in HS, that was a daily practice.  One of my best friends lived across the street from school, so I'd walk to her house after practice.  We would just snack and BS around (yes, as two latch key teen kids) until my mom came to pick me up at around 5:30-6.  HS band season was rough:  3 practices a week from 6-9pm, Friday night football games, and usually Saturday competitions.  Sometimes I could get rides from the other kids, and sometimes other kids' parents could give me rides, but usually my mom had to do that. 

[lund]

The biggest advantage of a lot of sports, music, scouts, and similar arranged and supervised activities is that it diminishes the risk of getting into less desirable activities....

But it can be very hard on the parents, AKA the paying taxi service.

[raeoflyte]

Sept 15, 2017 12:33:42 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Sept 15, 2017 12:02:27 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

One of the things I absolutely love about my parents is that they did this for me (especially by highschool before I had a license) without ever complaining or making me feel bad.  I had work, multiple bands, and theater which took up 6 days a week.  

With younger kids I can see limiting to one or two nights a week.  But it's really not hard to end up committed to nearly every night once they hit high school (this is why I made him get his permit right away when he turned 15...I want this to be the last year I have to be hauling him around to things every single day).

Even if he was just in band and robotics it would be a lot.  Robotics is three days a week for 2.5 hours each time.  Marching band practices three mornings a week before school, mandatory playing in Pep band for the games, several concerts and out of town band competitions.  Then we throw in jazz band, speech team and scouts on top of that.  Honestly though, my kid is not in nearly as much as some of his peers.  I have NO IDEA how they do it.  There almost has to be a SAHP. 

Yeah, I'm not saying limiting is a terrible thing, but I am grateful that my parents really didn't mind.  Driving time can be quality conversations with each other.  Even younger I had girl scouts and swim lessons and basketball, soccer, art classes, riding lessons.  I don't know how they mustered the strength to sit through some of those band rehearsals after a rough day at work, but even now they say they liked it.  

I'm hoping to encourage some carpooling if we get a minivan soon.  I hate to always bring up C's diabetes, but until he's much older he can't be without a trained adult on site.  Since we always have to drive and stay through the activity, I figure we can give other parents a bit of a break by being the ride.  

[TheHaitian]

Carlie is 8 months old today!!!! Just wow! Where have the time gone?

She is a sassy, head strong, happy as long as she gets her way little girl. She loves giving her daddy kisses and he loves giving her kisses too.

If I enter the room she just focuses on me and everything I do... but grandma and mama are still her favorites.

[Deleted]

Sept 15, 2017 12:57:38 GMT -5 lund said:

The biggest advantage of a lot of sports, music, scouts, and similar arranged and supervised activities is that it diminishes the risk of getting into less desirable activities....

But it can be very hard on the parents, AKA the paying taxi service.

LOL

DS's line is always, "Hey at least I'm not on drugs and you're not a Grandma already".

I was never in anything in high school (often not even class) and did spend a lot of time getting in trouble, but luckily I had my horses and spent a ton of time at the barns most of my middle/high school years or it would have without a doubt been much worse.  My Mom was really young when I was born and besides having to work all the time, she was pretty absorbed in her own social life so I kind of took the back seat and was pawned off a lot.  I remember begging to take guitar lessons, or at least to get a guitar so I could teach myself, but my mom refused.  She'll never admit it, but I think she regrets not being more involved and getting me into things.  A few years ago when I was in my 40's she gave me an acoustic guitar out of the blue.  I'm like...uh...thanks?   I gave it to the boys, but I don't know how to tune it and it's too big for younger to handle.

[MJ2.0]

I'm looking at booster seats since DS has outgrown his convertible seat.  The Graco one I'm looking at is for kids 40-100lbs.... 100lbs?!  Why does a kid nearing 100lbs need to be in a booster seat?  I get the whole "keep them in the back for a while thing" because of the airbags, but I do not understand the obsession with keeping bigger kids in a booster seat for ages.

[cktc]

Sept 15, 2017 13:38:59 GMT -5 MJ2.0 said:

I'm looking at booster seats since DS has outgrown his convertible seat.  The Graco one I'm looking at is for kids 40-100lbs.... 100lbs?!  Why does a kid nearing 100lbs need to be in a booster seat?  I get the whole "keep them in the back for a while thing" because of the airbags, but I do not understand the obsession with keeping bigger kids in a booster seat for ages.

Boosters are about height and where the seat belt hits. Maybe some kids are nearing 100 lbs before they reach 4'9"?

[MJ2.0]

Sept 15, 2017 13:58:48 GMT -5 cktc said:

Sept 15, 2017 13:38:59 GMT -5 MJ2.0 said:

I'm looking at booster seats since DS has outgrown his convertible seat.  The Graco one I'm looking at is for kids 40-100lbs.... 100lbs?!  Why does a kid nearing 100lbs need to be in a booster seat?  I get the whole "keep them in the back for a while thing" because of the airbags, but I do not understand the obsession with keeping bigger kids in a booster seat for ages.

Boosters are about height and where the seat belt hits. Maybe some kids are nearing 100 lbs before they reach 4'9"?

I guess.  DS is going to be a pretty tall adult since I'm 5'7" and X is 6'2".  He's already tall - he's almost to my chest and he's 6!  When I saw him in his seat this morning, I just don't see a booster seat being necessary by the time he's 8.  But I get the feeling he'll still have to be in one for legal reasons.

[WholeLottaNothin]

I know Roggie will hit the height requirement before he hits 100 pounds. Last I knew he was four feet tall and like 56 pounds. That was in the spring, so I'm not sure what he is now. I'm 5'8" ish and DH is 6'2". The (almost) 3 year old is already over 3 feet. I'm going to be the shortest in the house before I know it.

[gracendignity]

Holy Cow! I only skimmed through the links you sent, Sam, and I am freaked out!  I'm pretty sure my daughter's church must do Awana-light or something. Kinda joking, but not really.  Without going into all the details I can't see my daughter and son-in-law endorsing that nonsense at all. And I can guarantee-damn you my co-grandmother (DD's MIL) would smack anyone who implied that any of her grandchildren were born evil and must be trained away from it.

I'll be talking to DD about this, though. I usually assume my daughters are capable women who can raise their children quite well, but this is something I'll have to ask for clarification about.   As I said earlier--I learn so much on this thread! 

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Grandma and I got into it when I was a teenager over Original Sin and limbo.   That did not inspire religious devotion in me, quite the opposite actually.  

[NastyWoman]

Sept 15, 2017 9:50:39 GMT -5 Sam_2.0 said:

This may be something to look at, G&. Awana starts with the assumption that all children are evil and going to hell. www.libertybc.org/documents/Why_I_Believe_in_Awana.pdf Its in their workbooks starting at least in Kindergarten. www.awana.org/what-we-believe

 That alone would have made me tell my mom that if she ever dared take my kids there, it would be the last time she would ever see them. And believe me, I would have followed through! Nobody, and I mean nobody had the right to scare my kids.

Now as adults and well over 6ft tall, they are my pretorian guard when we go out together

[CCL]

Sept 14, 2017 19:08:37 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

Not into activities yet so not sure what amount is the correct amount...

I did say no to Gymboree but now that she is crawling my wife would like to sign her up. I think it is $80/month or something like that...

Once she turns 1 we will do swimming lessons (I felt 6 months was a bit too early).

Then we talked about other options : my wife did ballet and would like her to try (even if my wife hated it and ended up quitting - mostly because of the teacher) and for me she needs to play at least 1 musical instrument. She can pick, but she will need to do at least one.

Growing up my wife did : ballet, tennis.

I did: soccer, volleyball.

Also we both agreed with our schedules the limit is 1 activity per season...

Mine took swim lessons at 6 months at the Y. It's really more about getting them comfortable in the water. They did just fine. As they got a little older we added mother's day out and preschool. It made it very easy for them to transition from one program to the next since they were already familiar with some of the kids and the teachers. I think it helped them with their social development/skills.

[Wisconsin Beth]

Sept 15, 2017 9:32:35 GMT -5 gracendignity said:

And, for those of you in the throes of child-activities, may I just say that one day you will graduate to being the grandparent.  All you have to do is show up at the designated time, and clap wildly for your grandchild.  It's a good time!

A few years ago, my parents were almost never home on weekends due to attending all the soccer, vball, basketball, tennis and lacrosse games. This was for 6 of their grandchildren. Often in different schools that were a good hour apart from each other. My older nieces are all like 1 grade apart so when one aged out of sports another one was aging in.

My parents firmly believe it's their duty to attend at least one game per kid, per sport, per year. But they are kinda grateful my kids are not particularly interested in soccer - too windy for them at their ages. Dad is 79 and Mom is 75.

[empress of self-improvement]

Sept 15, 2017 11:01:14 GMT -5 cael said:

Sept 14, 2017 19:08:37 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

Not into activities yet so not sure what amount is the correct amount...

I did say no to Gymboree but now that she is crawling my wife would like to sign her up. I think it is $80/month or something like that...

Once she turns 1 we will do swimming lessons (I felt 6 months was a bit too early).

Then we talked about other options : my wife did ballet and would like her to try (even if my wife hated it and ended up quitting - mostly because of the teacher) and for me she needs to play at least 1 musical instrument. She can pick, but she will need to do at least one.

Growing up my wife did : ballet, tennis.

I did: soccer, volleyball.

Also we both agreed with our schedules the limit is 1 activity per season...

Timing is our biggest problem but I did do swimming with A over the summer. Taking a break from it this month because we're so busy, but mostly I'm starting him on that so he learns to be comfortable in water and starts learning how to swim. "Drown proofing" him, as my mom's friend used to say, we learned how to swim in her pool when we were kids. We live across from a pond with a park he'll be spending time at, so him learning how to take care of himself in water is absolutely a priority.

The only activities I did as a kid was 3ish years of girl scouts, violin lessons and swim lessons, no sports. I tried playing basketball in middle school, but my mom wouldn't let me because she was afraid for my hands for violin seriously?? DH played hockey at school for like one year and loved it and did boy scouts for a year, only because his sister took him - otherwise no activities for him, his shit mother didn't care about that stuff or want to pay for it. A will get to try what he wants, within reason and he'll know he has to stick a session/season out if we sign him up for something. And no more than one or two at a time, I will not be that mother shuttling him to things every godamn night of the week.

And yeah, we'll push music definitely. We'll start him young, he can try whatever he wants. He already has a drum set and I have multiple violins and guitars, so unless he's literally totally devoid of any musical talent he'll be doing at least one instrument I hope.

Let me know when you want to start him on t rumpet. I still have one.

[muttleynfelix]

DH went to urgent care
He has bronchitis with a bronchial infection. He got an inhaler, cough syrup and a steriod.

[Pants]

Sept 15, 2017 20:12:03 GMT -5 muttleynfelix said:

DH went to urgent care
He has bronchitis with a bronchial infection. He got an inhaler, cough syrup and a steriod.

Oh no! Sorry mutt, but at least you know what's wrong and he can start treating it.