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Post by swamp on May 19, 2011 13:57:20 GMT -5
Does anyone here other than Warsaw really defend Obama?
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Post by bubblyandblue on May 19, 2011 14:09:35 GMT -5
I'll defend the spineless, weak kneed, deer in the headlights, in-side-the-box, lousy negotiating bum. I voted for the timid bastard afterall.
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Post by ty on May 19, 2011 14:14:42 GMT -5
<<He was staying in the room, his dna is bound to be there, she's a hotel maid, they sometimes cut themselves while cleaning and bruising themselves as well.>> So she found one of his used condoms, put the contents in her mouth, spit it out on the carpet, and cut and bruised herself all as part of an elaborate scam? Sounds logical to me. They are already shredding the NYPD case against him. The bs lie that he fled to the airport and was trying to flee had been proved to be a lie. He had made plans 5 days in advance on that flight, So I suppose he planned to try to rape a hotel-maid right before his flight so he could have a little nookie before heading back to France. Then the defense team are saying there are no markings on him. Sounds odd since she claims he attacked her and she was fighting this old 62 yo man and he has no injuries on him. In the end, he will walk.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 14:16:19 GMT -5
THAT was pretty funny, bubbly!
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Post by deziloooooo on May 19, 2011 14:18:01 GMT -5
True, but that has not been established as of yet. All we have is a hotel maids word and that's pretty much it, we have a little more than that in most cases, reports of crimes are investigated to determine probable cause. police, in most cases, can not make an arrest without probable cause. probable cause in this case, gave the officers enough to pull a high level, political, person off of a plane, arrest, detain, arraign, refuse bail, and put on suicide watch. you can bet, these decisions were made by more than one person, which limits the chance for error here. i am not saying he is guilty, but again.....HE put himself in this situation, and now has to 'sleep in the bed he made' ..so to speak In thinking about this, granted don't know the time line but in a way, I am thinking; the maid sees this man , who is alone, and decides , "hey, I am going to get involved with this guy, he's paying $3000 per night for this room, he must be loaded and he's a foreigner, and then yell sexual assault. " After wards, she calls her brother to tell him what she did and to ask his advice, " Have I left anything out, I didn't swallow, spit on the floor, remember reading about Monica, the dress, so what else". Brother thinks, asks her some more questions, finally says " seems your good to go, now call the cops and then your boss, management". mmmmmmmmmm
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Post by ty on May 19, 2011 14:20:58 GMT -5
True, but that has not been established as of yet. All we have is a hotel maids word and that's pretty much it, we have a little more than that in most cases, reports of crimes are investigated to determine probable cause. police, in most cases, can not make an arrest without probable cause. probable cause in this case, gave the officers enough to pull a high level, political, person off of a plane, arrest, detain, arraign, refuse bail, and put on suicide watch. you can bet, these decisions were made by more than one person, which limits the chance for error here. i am not saying he is guilty, but again.....HE put himself in this situation, and now has to 'sleep in the bed he made' ..so to speak In thinking about this, granted don't know the time line but in a way, I am thinking; the maid sees this man , who is alone, and decides , "hey, I am going to get involved with this guy, he's paying $3000 per night for this room, he must be loaded and he's a foreigner, and then yell sexual assault. " After wards, she calls her brother to tell him what she did and to ask his advice, " Have I left anything out, I didn't swallow, spit on the floor, remember reading about Monica, the dress, so what else". Brother thinks, asks her some more questions, finally says " seems your good to go, now call the cops and then your boss, management". mmmmmmmmmm YAWN!
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Post by cme1201 on May 19, 2011 14:21:21 GMT -5
Does anyone here other than Warsaw really defend Obama? Some do, Warsaw never really defended Obama just defended anything that was anti-republican, it could be charlie manson or a republican and charlie would simply be misunderstood in his eyes, I do believe.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 19, 2011 14:24:26 GMT -5
Does anyone here other than Warsaw really defend Obama? Some do, Warsaw never really defended Obama just defended anything that was anti-republican, it could be charlie manson or a republican and charlie would simply be misunderstood in his eyes, I do believe. Who do? Never saw that. . .
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Post by ty on May 19, 2011 14:55:46 GMT -5
Bail has been granted to IMF Chief Strauss-Khan.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 14:58:51 GMT -5
Okay-- indicted, to be released on bail, electronic monitoring. Here we go. No one watching him, though. He could cut it off and jump in a car and disappear to another country. We'll see. Or his opponents could just shoot him.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 19, 2011 15:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 19, 2011 15:01:30 GMT -5
The story that he planned to be on that flight is in dispute, btw.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 15:04:19 GMT -5
7 charges?? mmhhh........ suggests to me he will be offered a plea. But, that is normal..
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on May 19, 2011 15:06:01 GMT -5
Okay-- indicted, to be released on bail, electronic monitoring. Here we go. No one watching him, though. He could cut it off and jump in a car and disappear to another country. We'll see. Or his opponents could just shoot him. I just heard on the radio that he had to put up $1M bail, $5M collateral, surrender all travel docs and will have armed guards with him at all times.
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Post by deziloooooo on May 19, 2011 15:09:17 GMT -5
Okay-- indicted, to be released on bail, electronic monitoring. Here we go. No one watching him, though. He could cut it off and jump in a car and disappear to another country. We'll see. Or his opponents could just shoot him. Bail is $1 million Cash Bond $5 mill {that is property} TV camera bracelet armed guard 24/7 He probably will jump off his balcony possible.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2011 15:25:13 GMT -5
for armed guard. This needs to go to court. I hope the maid can hold up under the pressure, though. She's terrified.
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Post by bubblyandblue on May 19, 2011 15:38:02 GMT -5
That armed guard is probably going to have to shoot Strauss-Khan dead to keep him from commiting suicide.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 19, 2011 15:41:03 GMT -5
New York Police Department investigators say they brought the maid back to the room where, she says, Strauss-Kahn emerged naked from the bathroom and assaulted her.
Investigators also say information downloaded from the suite door's electronic card reader indicates the maid entered the room and never closed the door. The hotel policy requires maids to leave the door open when cleaning. The open door, they say, is proof that the women entered the room to work, not to engage in consensual sex.
"There was nothing that took place in that hotel room which in any way could be construed as consensual," the woman's personal attorney, Jeffrey Shapiro, said. "This woman was absolutely the victim of a physical and sexual assault."
ABC News does not identify alleged victims of sexual assault.
On Wednesday, Strauss-Kahn resigned his post as head of the International Monetary Fund, the organization that oversees the global financial system. He was considered a leading contender to become president of France.
(From the ABC link)
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Post by ty on May 19, 2011 15:42:42 GMT -5
Okay-- indicted, to be released on bail, electronic monitoring. Here we go. No one watching him, though. He could cut it off and jump in a car and disappear to another country. We'll see. Or his opponents could just shoot him. I'm sure he's going to make a run for it on that bridge from America to France. The electronic device cannot be cut off. If done then it will send a signal asap to those monitoring him. His picture is on the list at all airports for him not to be allowed to leave, he has no passport in his possession now. He's entitled to bail just like anyone else that is falsely accused of a crime they didn't commit. It's attempted rape, not rape, and he's innocent until proved otherwise.
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Post by ty on May 19, 2011 15:46:30 GMT -5
New York Police Department investigators say they brought the maid back to the room where, she says, Strauss-Kahn emerged naked from the bathroom and assaulted her. Investigators also say information downloaded from the suite door's electronic card reader indicates the maid entered the room and never closed the door. The hotel policy requires maids to leave the door open when cleaning. The open door, they say, is proof that the women entered the room to work, not to engage in consensual sex. "There was nothing that took place in that hotel room which in any way could be construed as consensual," the woman's personal attorney, Jeffrey Shapiro, said. "This woman was absolutely the victim of a physical and sexual assault."
ABC News does not identify alleged victims of sexual assault. On Wednesday, Strauss-Kahn resigned his post as head of the International Monetary Fund, the organization that oversees the global financial system. He was considered a leading contender to become president of France. (From the ABC link) Story changed once again. She first said he attacked and tried to rape her in the hallway, then she changes it and says that he chased her down the hallway, knocked her down and then dragged her back to the bathroom of his room, and now she's changed it again. She even lied about calling her brother before reporting this alleged crime. If this in fact happened, why not call 911 for help from the get-go? She's a lying B and that's all there is to it. I hope she's sent back to Africa where she belongs.
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Post by deziloooooo on May 19, 2011 15:49:02 GMT -5
New York Police Department investigators say they brought the maid back to the room where, she says, Strauss-Kahn emerged naked from the bathroom and assaulted her. Investigators also say information downloaded from the suite door's electronic card reader indicates the maid entered the room and never closed the door. The hotel policy requires maids to leave the door open when cleaning. The open door, they say, is proof that the women entered the room to work, not to engage in consensual sex. "There was nothing that took place in that hotel room which in any way could be construed as consensual," the woman's personal attorney, Jeffrey Shapiro, said. "This woman was absolutely the victim of a physical and sexual assault."
ABC News does not identify alleged victims of sexual assault. On Wednesday, Strauss-Kahn resigned his post as head of the International Monetary Fund, the organization that oversees the global financial system. He was considered a leading contender to become president of France. (From the ABC link) He is innocent till proven guilty, he has a great lawyer, you realize my post #284, was in jest, but also quite serious, in that to have to go through a set up like that, something along those lines would have to be done, and while possible... We'll see how it plays out, have a feeling a mini o J may be the thing this summer.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 19, 2011 17:36:16 GMT -5
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Post by marshabar1 on May 19, 2011 17:41:05 GMT -5
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Post by humok on May 19, 2011 17:42:26 GMT -5
You all do realize he spoke out against the non-regulation of goods and money and financial institutions right....Might want to rethink why the elite have turned against one of there own....I do not believe this man raped anyone.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 19, 2011 17:57:29 GMT -5
You all do realize he spoke out against the non-regulation of goods and money and financial institutions right....Might want to rethink why the elite have turned against one of there own....I do not believe this man raped anyone. So IMF may be harder on Europe without Kahn and turn its attention back to its more traditional "clients." Wasn't Strauss-Kahn leaving anyway? Would he be president while still administering the fund? I think the conspiracy rape thing is too much of a stretch. Glad to see the IMF stressed and under a magnifying glass.
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Post by ty on May 19, 2011 18:08:04 GMT -5
I think is messed up the the American taxpayers are giving them 17% of their funding at the IMF. Why are we even funding these morons. Start taking care of the American people for a change, and ask the American people if they want to fund organizations like this before giving them the American people's money.
Regardless if he's guilty or not, we shouldn't be financially supporting the IMF.
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Post by humok on May 19, 2011 18:42:05 GMT -5
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Post by humok on May 19, 2011 18:46:45 GMT -5
Should we fund the IMF...SHOULD WE BE INVOLVED IN THE WORLD BANKING...Should we be involved in the New world order.....should we be involved in a One World Govt...People say no but our politicians say yes so what do we do?
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Post by humok on May 19, 2011 19:29:53 GMT -5
1891, American Bankers Association, as printed in the Congressional Record of April 29, 1913
"On Sept, 1, 1894, we will not renew our loans under any consideration. On Sept. 1st we will demand our money. We will foreclose and become mortgagees in possession. We can take two-thirds of the farms west of the Mississippi, and thousands of them east of the Mississippi as well, at our own price... We may as well own three-fourths of the farms of the West and the money of the country. Then the farmers will become tenants as in England ..."
The March 11, 1893 leaflet, since then called: “The Panic Circular”, addressed by the American Bankers' Association to all national banks throughout the United States:
“The interests of national banks require immediate financial legislation by Congress (the United States Government). Silver, silver certificates, and Treasury bonds (that is to say, all the Government's money) must be retired, and National Bank Notes made the only money. “This will require the authorization of $500 million to $1 billion of new bonds as the basis of circulation. You will at once retire one-third of your circulation (your paper money) and call in one-half of your loans. Be careful to make a monetary stringency (emergency) among your patrons, especially among influential businessmen. “Advocate an extra session of Congress to repeal the purchasing clause of the Sherman Law, and act with other banks of your city in securing a large petition to Congress for its unconditional repeal per accompanying form. Use personal influence with your Congressmen, and particularly let your wishes be known to your senators. “The future life of national banks, as fixed and safe investments, depends upon immediate action, as there is an increasing sentiment in favor of Government legal-tender notes and silver coinage.”
Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr. revealed the Bankers Manifesto of 1892 to the U.S. Congress somewhere between 1907 and 1917.
We (the bankers) must proceed with caution and guard every move made, for the lower order of people are already showing signs of restless commotion. Prudence will therefore show a policy of apparently yielding to the popular will until our plans are so far consummated that we can declare our designs without fear of any organized resistance. Organizations in the United States should be carefully watched by our trusted men, and we must take immediate steps to control these organizations in our interest or disrupt them. At the coming Omaha convention to be held July 4, 1892, our men must attend and direct its movement or else there will be set on foot such antagonism to our designs as may require force to overcome. This at the present time would be premature. We are not yet ready for such a crisis. Capital must protect itself in every possible manner through combination (conspiracy) and legislation. The courts must be called to our aid, debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When, through the process of law, the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of the government applied to a central power of imperial wealth under the control of the leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. History repeats itself in regular cycles. This truth is well known among our principal men who are engaged in forming an imperialism of the world. While they are doing this, the people must be kept in a state of political antagonism. The question of tariff reform must be urged through the organization known as the Democratic Party, and the question of protection with the reciprocity must be forced to view through the Republican Party. By thus dividing voters, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us, except as teachers to the common herd. Thus, by discrete actions, we can secure all that has been so generously planned and successfully accomplished.
People amaze me by being so blind to the facts. These are just a few.
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Post by humok on May 19, 2011 19:31:40 GMT -5
and you say?
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