I'm in business to make money, I do it to get rich

[Tennesseer]

Money-it won't do you a damn bit of good once you are dead.

[moon/Laura]

May 8, 2011 12:15:00 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

Thanks for expressing your POLITICAL POV on the board, paul. Several times lately I have seen threads challenged as to why they are on this POLITICAL board just because they do not match the political POV of the majority on the board. this post does not come across as a POLITICAL post. it comes across as a self serving rant Good luck to you in everything you do, and keep posting. Not sure what all these folks will do once they have run all the conservatives off the board with their insults and attacks. Pat each other on the back... then what? you know what? i am so tired of all the crap on this board that i'm seriously considering GETTING RID OF IT. all you people who want to be holes can go start your own place. Another EE, I guess, since there will be no one to hate on.
I would LOVE to be rich. A lot of good can be done with a lot of money. Power to ya! yeah.. power to the greedy... at least he's honest about it..

[Tennesseer]

"May those who have received never forget.

May those who have given never remember."

[Deleted]

If you don't like the topic of a post no need to click on it. If you don't like the poster of that topic no need to click on it. I'm sure there are things we all pass by, not interested. That doesn't mean others are not interested. Simple.

[Tennesseer]

LOL. Where's 'there'? As far as I know, for those who believe, everyone will be equal 'there' and probably won't remember what it was like back 'there'.

[mmhmm]

To me, once you have enough to live comfortably, it's time to start looking around to see what you might be able to do for those who have not. How can you help? How can you teach? How can you reach out? Rather than concentrate on becoming wealthy in goods and coin, why not concentrate on how to become wealthy by measuring the number of people you've actually helped with no gain to yourself?

[Deleted]

May 8, 2011 13:56:07 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

To me, once you have enough to live comfortably, it's time to start looking around to see what you might be able to do for those who have not. How can you help? How can you teach? How can you reach out? Rather than concentrate on becoming wealthy in goods and coin, why not concentrate on how to become wealthy by measuring the number of people you've actually helped with no gain to yourself?

Why do getting rich and helping others contradict each other for you? That's just weird.

[mmhmm]

They don't, necessarily, xmascookie. In some cases, wealthy people do reach out. In too many, however, they don't ... except to grab more for themselves. Therein lies the rub.

[steff]

why is being 'rich' the be all end all? Why is it THE thing to be? And is being rich the only thing that brings happiness?


I just don't see "rich" as anything more than "I have more money than you do"....doesn't make anyone a better person, or a more giving person, or any more special than anyone else.

[moon/Laura]

May 8, 2011 14:00:58 GMT -5 @lonewolf said:

I don't understand the hate here towards those who have acquired wealth.

it's not that they are wealthy that's the problem.. it's the 'let's shove it in everyone's face and gloat and say how much better i am BECAUSE i'm wealthy" that i hate.

people really do place way too much importance on the material. i have been a 'barely has' or a 'has not' all of my life, but i don't care as long as i can pay my bills and take care of my son.

[Deleted]

Paul said---- 4. Run a charity. Private charitable giving is a personal passion of mine, but it is at my discretion. Compulsion (taxes) is not compassion. The IRS is not a charity, the government welfare office isn't compassionate, government housing is not charity.

Where is the selfishness in choosing to give your money to who you want to give it to? The man lives within the law, and gives where he chooses to give. It's HIS money to give. He worked for it, earned every cent of it, and has every right to spend it however he chooses.

[steff]

May 8, 2011 14:11:23 GMT -5 @lonewolf said:

May 8, 2011 14:03:16 GMT -5 steff said:

why is being 'rich' the be all end all? Why is it THE thing to be? And is being rich the only thing that brings happiness?


I just don't see "rich" as anything more than "I have more money than you do"....doesn't make anyone a better person, or a more giving person, or any more special than anyone else.

It doesn't make them any more special, but they should be admired for having the motivation to get where they are.
Don't we all have goals and appreciate being acknowledged for reaching those goals?

do you really need strangers to pat you on the back because you are "rich"? Do you need everyone to know that you are "richer" than they are? if so, why?

[moon/Laura]

i am supposed to admire someone whose goal in life is to be rich??!


nope. not gonna happen.. i respect hard work and ambition - just not when "making a lot of money" is the motivation.

[mmhmm]

Precisely, moonbeam. I'm relatively sure paul isn't the only person posting on these boards who has plenty. He's just the only one I've seen here who's bragging about it. Personally, I don't give a flip how much paul has. This isn't the "All About Paul" board.

[swamp]

I'm in business for myself too. And my goal is to make a good living while providing good service to my clients at a fair price. I don't need to be rich. I also think I have an obligation as a decent human being to give back to my community, both financially and with my time and talents.

I guess I'm a lazy socialist.

[mmhmm]

May 8, 2011 14:50:41 GMT -5 swamp said:

I'm in business for myself too. And my goal is to make a good living while providing good service to my clients at a fair price. I don't need to be rich. I also think I have an obligation as a decent human being to give back to my community, both financially and with my time and talents.

I guess I'm a lazy socialist.

Heh. Probably, swamp. I probably am, too. So be it. I'll continue as I've been doing. It works for me, and it works for my community.

[moon/Laura]

of course you're in business to make money.. but I think, swamp, that there's a large difference between what your goals are, and what others' goals are.

[ed1066]

May 8, 2011 0:24:46 GMT -5 Mkitty is pro kitty said:

The CEO of my first company I worked for hadn't had a vacation in five (5) years.

My friend's father was like that. He died in his early 50's from a heart attack. But it was worth it, huh? Gooooooo, Protestant Work Ethic!!!!1!



Then by your "argument," you work for someone so logical, he or she would put Bertrand Russell to shame.



By chance, did you happen to be born in a limousine? Your ethics sure do reflect that.



By your other posts, the only thing that gets your charity is that poor dead cow that's now your wallet.



Why don't you do what you always do, and hit the "Report to Mod" button. (I'm sure the mod will dutifully ignore it).That's when you're done whining about me calling you names you've called me and other posters a bunch of times. So how about a refreshing change and look at yourself in the mirror once in a while, Mr. Stunned.



Translation: Wah! I can't circle jerk on this board like I could on the other one before those mean mods actually did something!



Since your argument is empty rhetoric and a strawman, that's a double bust. Oh, and if we're going to play the stereotypes game, your Deliverance of a banjo tune must be a pretty good one.



Buh-bye! Nobody's irreplacable. There will be a posting and within a year, their job should be taken by someone that isn't such an unpatriotic spoiled brat (hopefully). If not: lather, rinse, repeat.



I can't disagree with that. There's the Bible verse spewing one, then there's the Paul who has a noticable absence of Bible verses when he mentions how rich he is (hint: camel and needle) or how he disabled should live in tents or how we should slash their funding.

Of course with Conservatives, there's enough cherry picking from the Bible to give everyone in this country a pie, so it's not unique to him. Just ask yourselves who's your Lord, corporations or Jesus? And we've read enough of your posts to know what the answer is.

and insert a Manchurian candidate to destroy the US

I looked on the map and couldn't find your resident town of Tinfoilia. If it's not in the US, why do you care? Oh, and if you're that unpatriotic and hate the country so much, nobody is stopping you from leaving the US (if you're even here).

Why did you spend so much time writing this? It's pathetic...

[billisonboard]

May 8, 2011 19:04:31 GMT -5 @ed1066 said:

...

Why did you spend so much time writing this? It's pathetic...

Your need to attack her is what is truly pathetic.

[bobbysgirl]

May 8, 2011 14:03:16 GMT -5 steff said:

why is being 'rich' the be all end all? Why is it THE thing to be? And is being rich the only thing that brings happiness?


I just don't see "rich" as anything more than "I have more money than you do"....doesn't make anyone a better person, or a more giving person, or any more special than anyone else.

With all due respect, this statement sounds as if it could come from a socialist manifesto.

[ameiko]

May 8, 2011 13:24:45 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

May 8, 2011 13:06:41 GMT -5 ameiko said:

...

He made me stand up and salute! ...

Please Sir!!! Remember we may have children reading this!

;D ;D ;D

+1 for making me laugh!

[ameiko]

May 8, 2011 13:45:51 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Money-it won't do you a damn bit of good once you are dead.

Neither will socialism but people here keep pulling for that!

[ameiko]

May 8, 2011 14:05:06 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

May 8, 2011 14:00:58 GMT -5 @lonewolf said:

I don't understand the hate here towards those who have acquired wealth.

it's not that they are wealthy that's the problem.. it's the 'let's shove it in everyone's face and gloat and say how much better i am BECAUSE i'm wealthy" that i hate.

people really do place way too much importance on the material. i have been a 'barely has' or a 'has not' all of my life, but i don't care as long as i can pay my bills and take care of my son.

Except Paul didn't say that except to tell people who don't take the chances he did to stop freaking whining that they don't have what he has and also to stop thinking that they are entitled to what he has.

If the liberals just left people alone and instead used their own money for their own causes, Paul, myself, and others wouldn't be nearly so annoyed. We are sick of the "well you can afford to be taxed more..." to which I say: "go to hell."

Because someone has a lack, perceived or real, it's ok to steal from someone else? Heck, why limit it to money? Someone hasn't gotten some "companionship" in a while (note: someone is going to engage in an ad hominen attack on me by stating I am such a person) so he or she can just grab some hottie at random and drag him or her home? What, doesn't that person have a need? How can you be so selfish to not give of yourself?!?!

Reminds me of "Brave New World" where everyone belongs to everyone. Scary, eh? But that's what happens when you decide that the government can decide that someone else deserves you have whether it's your wealth, body, or liberty.

[ameiko]

May 8, 2011 14:19:18 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

i am supposed to admire someone whose goal in life is to be rich??!


nope. not gonna happen.. i respect hard work and ambition - just not when "making a lot of money" is the motivation.

You should sure as heck respect that alot more than be like one of the herd here who respects Obama because he wants sto steal wealth and spread it out as he sees fit since he has the delusion that he is morally superior to the person who earned that money.

[Opti]

"Oh, wait- was it the question about why this thread should be here at all? Is that the question?

This is the POLITICS and MARKETS board

This thread is NOT about ME. The thread is about politics-- our governing philosophy. And the markets- our free market system."

And yet the thread is titled
I'm in business to make money, I do it to get

If it was about our, us and we shouldn't the pronouns in the title
reflect that?

[txbo]

In summation, this thread is about a young man that is good at speaking and writing. He is a stay at home dad with a wife that probably works fulltime at home or in an office. He is or has been in a real-estate partnership being paid a percentage. Since he began this endeavor, the real-estate market has crashed, as would the value of his investments. However, he may be in the property management aspect of the business. He will also work some small gigs for additional income.
At best, Paul’s advice is very general in nature but he is motivational and some young people will be helped by this. Many of us however have been there, done that, and probably with as much if not more success.
OK, saluting is just a little over the top.

[floridayankee]

May 8, 2011 13:47:11 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

I would LOVE to be rich. A lot of good can be done with a lot of money. Power to ya! yeah.. power to the greedy... at least he's honest about it..

And that is ultimately the difference between liberalism and conservatism. Personally, I find it greedy to covet and demand a cut of something earned by somebody else. Even more so if one is unwilling to put fourth the same effort and take the same risks as the person earning it.

When people are willing to put fourth equal effort, I'll be more inclined to agree with equal outcomes.

[Deleted]

"I find it greedy to covet and demand a cut of something earned by somebody else."

I find it incredibly shortsighted and dishonest to suggest one earned their fortune all by their little old lonesome self... without benefit of the system we have... and which has to be supported...

[floridayankee]

May 8, 2011 14:05:06 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

it's not that they are wealthy that's the problem.. it's the 'let's shove it in everyone's face and gloat and say how much better i am BECAUSE i'm wealthy" that i hate.

people really do place way too much importance on the material. i have been a 'barely has' or a 'has not' all of my life, but i don't care as long as i can pay my bills and take care of my son.

Personally, I don't hate anybody...I might not like someone very much, but I will never hate them. Life's too damned short to be consumed by hatred. If someone thinks they're better than me because they have more toys....eh, so be it.

Material possessions never impressed me because having the biggest, baddest widget in the neighborhood isn't a priority for me. If it's a priority for you (you in general, not you personally) so be it. We might not pal around much if you have an "I'm better than you" attitude, but I'll still be happy for you, not envious.

[handyman2]

Money is just a tool. What you do with it tells the world what kind of person you are.