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Post by cme1201 on May 7, 2011 19:38:31 GMT -5
<<Used to be a ticket of Colin/Condi was one I really could have gotten behind. >> Seriously .. do you think the c**cker base of the repubs would support those two ... har de har Yes, I really thought at one point in time it would have been a strong ticket, and I believe if Powell had sought the nomination in 08' he would have pulled close to 65% of the popular vote, this was before he backed Obama and left a lot of the republican base feeling betrayed. *****Some may see you're adjective as negative, so I have blanked letters.*****
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2011 19:38:54 GMT -5
Wow, ungenteel,2 threads now, same thing. Didn't you get the memo that being called racist no longer works on Republicans?? I think you have all switched now to Pubs hate women and old people.
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Post by SweetVirginia on May 7, 2011 20:25:02 GMT -5
Pubs like Paul. He doesn't win because we know he won't beat a Dem. As paul said, his ideas are too complex for people to understand, and people are too lazy to look in to them. This dem would vote for Paul. I would have voted for him in 08 and I would vote for him in 12. I do not agree with all of his ideas, some are a bit out there, but overall, I like his platform.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2011 20:36:03 GMT -5
But you stay informed, sweet. The R behind his name is an automatic NO for lots of voters. Too bad.
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Post by SweetVirginia on May 7, 2011 20:40:11 GMT -5
But you stay informed, sweet. The R behind his name is an automatic NO for lots of voters. Too bad. That is true krickitt, but the same can be said about many voters who automatically vote no for someone with a D next to their name.
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Post by formerexpat on May 7, 2011 20:44:17 GMT -5
I Ron Paul. It's a shame some of what he delivers sounds so out there to the main stream and is often misunderstood. The concept of legalizing heroin isn't to say the drug isn't bad but only to say that the government has no right to infringe on anyone's liberties and if a junkie wants to use, they should be free to - until they infringe on another persons liberties. The US has wasted too many billions on the failed war on drugs. It's a shame the establishment has tried to latch on to the tea party because Ron Paul is the father of the movement. Hopefully it can continue to grow in the way that was intended.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2011 20:48:19 GMT -5
Agree on the drug war. Massive fail. Especially when it is real questionable just how involved our gov't may be in the whole drug thing.
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Post by SweetVirginia on May 7, 2011 21:05:31 GMT -5
Well I think that Ron Paul, if given the chance, could be the one to beat Obama. At this point, I would vote for him over Obama and so would many democrats that I have spoken to about this.
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Post by SweetVirginia on May 7, 2011 21:09:55 GMT -5
Here is an article regarding Paul's performance at the debate. What I find most interesting are the comments posted by people after the article. Several democrats claim that they would vote for him instead of Obama. I would too. www.caivn.org/article/2011/05/07/ron-paul-moment
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2011 21:15:23 GMT -5
Team Obama would slaughter him over his age if nothing else. And they would find lots of ways to spin things. Too bad.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2011 21:29:26 GMT -5
He will never get the republican nomination. The right did a perfectly good job on their own slaughtering him in 2008...
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Post by formerexpat on May 7, 2011 21:45:25 GMT -5
I voted for him in 2008 even though I knew he would not win and I would vote for him again. I couldn't bring myself to vote for a candidate that I did not believe in.
I believe in Ron Paul and more importantly, he has years of experience that actually support what he says in these debates.
It's a shame that so many believed the hype of Obama in 2008 with little to base it on. Amazing narrator with great speech writers; not much else.
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Post by SweetVirginia on May 7, 2011 21:56:19 GMT -5
I voted for him in 2008 even though I knew he would not win and I would vote for him again. I couldn't bring myself to vote for a candidate that I did not believe in. I believe in Ron Paul and more importantly, he has years of experience that actually support what he says in these debates. It's a shame that so many believed the hype of Obama in 2008 with little to base it on. Amazing narrator with great speech writers; not much else. I voted for Obama, because republicans did not give Ron Paul a chance. If Ron Paul would have been the repub nominee, he would have had my vote. No way could I have voted for crazy McCain. He would have been even worse for the country. (funny thing is, I probably would have voted for McCain in 2000 but he seems to have gone off the deep end since then.)
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Post by ungenteel on May 7, 2011 22:18:09 GMT -5
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Post by formerexpat on May 7, 2011 22:29:10 GMT -5
That's where I disagree - a McCain / *not Palin* ticket would have been better than Obama. At least McCain admitted that he didn't know the economy well and would bring in people who knew to help the country through it.
Too many people are now painfully aware that Obama hasn't a clue about the economy, despite remaining quiet on the topic.
McCain was vetted for the VP position in 2000 and 2004; I'm not surprised that moderate D's would have voted for him. Picking Palin was suicide for his campaign, in my opinion.
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Post by formerexpat on May 7, 2011 22:30:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2011 22:34:18 GMT -5
McCain would have declared war in North Korea, Iran, Lybia... on and on and on... I do not think we would have been better, even without Palin, although with Palin is nearly unthinkable...
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Post by formerexpat on May 7, 2011 22:37:05 GMT -5
Would he have had Congress vote on it first?
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Post by ungenteel on May 7, 2011 22:56:07 GMT -5
<<Apparently, the same goes for N****. Ever see the Chris rock skit?.
per usual ... the best defense is a good offense
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2011 23:22:38 GMT -5
I could care LESS what stupid words you use. PC is not my thing. I do, however, take exception to you saying twice today that Republicans could never vote for a black man, which is what I referred to and what you conveniently chose to overlook and assign my statement to some dumb words. It's not your words, ungenteel, it is your attitude about not only Republicans, but apparently white people. All caught up in race issues, are you?
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Post by Tennesseer on May 7, 2011 23:37:32 GMT -5
ungenteel-regardless of what you may think, the board does not allow the word 'cracker' to be used as a reference to white people-even if it is a white poster calling white people 'crackers'.
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Post by ungenteel on May 8, 2011 8:38:14 GMT -5
"cracker" is NOT a racial pejorative ... is describes a mind set ... it it is a mind set that serves as an embarrassment to righties with a brain ... because of their desperate need to pander to crackers, so righties have a snowball's chance to win an election
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 9:37:22 GMT -5
Santorum, Bauchman, Palin... these people have no chance snerd. Honestly. No chance. Not of being elected to the presidency of America.
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Post by cme1201 on May 9, 2011 10:20:51 GMT -5
Santorum, Bauchman, Palin... these people have no chance snerd. Honestly. No chance. Not of being elected to the presidency of America. And the same was said in 2006 about an Unknown man from Chicago who delivered a brilliant speech at the DNC Convention. Now, I wonder where he hangs his head at night? Just because YOU may not like the message doesn't mean other won't enjoy what they hear.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2011 10:30:33 GMT -5
An unknown man may make himself known. Santorum, Bauchman, Palin... are NOT unknown... and what is known... has no chance of being elected president of the United States of America...
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Post by floridayankee on May 9, 2011 10:35:11 GMT -5
..., Gary Johnson might be a closet fruit,.... I missed it, but this comment struck me as funny. What does sexual preference have to do with anything? I thought the left was all for equal rights?
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Post by cme1201 on May 9, 2011 10:37:26 GMT -5
An unknown man may make himself known. Santorum, Bauchman, Palin... are NOT unknown... and what is known... has no chance of being elected president of the United States of America... List your reasons, and I am sure that those who support these 3 (or any one of them) could counter-point your reasons. Making a pointless statement, such as you did, is akin to nothing more than a 3yo sticking it's finger's in it's ears screaming, lalala i'm not listening, lalala.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2011 10:54:57 GMT -5
It isn't just my reasons. I am sure there are some people would attempt to counter-point. It doesn't negate the fact that the three are so extreme that they have no chance to achieve the amount of support necessary to attain the office.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 9, 2011 11:23:17 GMT -5
..., Gary Johnson might be a closet fruit,.... I missed it, but this comment struck me as funny. What does sexual preference have to do with anything? I thought the left was all for equal rights? The word "closet" is the key in that statement. How would Johnson vote on gay-related issues? Think of former senator Larry Craig and his voting record on gay-related issues: Voted YES on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006) Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002) Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000) Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996) Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996) Rated 25% by the ACLU, indicating an anti-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002) Rated 0% by the HRC, indicating an anti-gay-rights stance. (Dec 2006) Amend Constitution to define traditional marriage. (Jun 2008) www.issues2000.org/Senate/Larry_Craig.htm
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Post by deziloooooo on May 9, 2011 13:05:16 GMT -5
----------------------------------------------- Thank you Krickett, that was the funniest tongue in cheek article on a seriouse subject I ever read, , the last line, preciouse. TY again.[For those to lazy to open, I just have to post, can't miss this one, all credit by the way to Krickett as the messenger] ------------------------------------------------------------------ Mitt Romney Haunted By Past Of Trying To Help Uninsured Sick People April 21, 2011 | ISSUE 47•16 Romney claims he wishes he'd never aided helpless sick people. 01.14.11 BELMONT, MA— Though Mitt Romney is considered to be a frontrunner for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, the national spotlight has forced him to repeatedly confront a major skeleton in his political closet: that as governor of Massachusetts he once tried to help poor, uninsured sick people. Romney, who signed the state's 2006 health care reform act, has said he "deeply regrets" giving people in poor physical and mental health the opportunity to seek medical attention, admitting that helping very sick people get better remains a dark cloud hovering over his political career, and his biggest obstacle to becoming president of the United States of America. "Every day I am haunted by the fact that I gave impoverished Massachusetts citizens a chance to receive health care," Romney told reporters Wednesday, adding that he feels ashamed whenever he looks back at how he forged bipartisan support to help uninsured Americans afford medicine to cure their illnesses. "I'm only human, and I've made mistakes. None bigger, of course, than helping cancer patients receive chemotherapy treatments and making sure that those suffering from pediatric AIDS could obtain medications, but that's my cross to bear." "My hope is that Republican voters will one day forgive me for making it easier for sick people—especially low-income sick people—to go to the hospital and see a doctor," Romney added. "It was wrong, and I'm sorry." According to Romney, if he could do things over again, he would do everything he could to make certain that uninsured individuals got sicker and sicker until they died. Promising his days of trying to provide medical coverage to the gravely ill are behind him, Romney said that if elected president, he would never even think about increasing anyone's quality of life or trying to lower the infant mortality rate. In addition, Romney repeatedly apologized for wanting to help people suffering from diabetes, Crohn's disease, and anemia. "I don't know what got into me back then," Romney said. "Wanting to make sure people were able to have health insurance if they left their job. Providing a federally funded website so individuals could compare the costs of insurance providers. Making certain that somebody who earns less than 150 percent of the poverty level can receive the same health care coverage as me or any government official. All I can say is that I was young and immature, and I am not that person anymore." "The only solace I can take is in the hope that some of the folks I helped were terminally ill patients who eventually withered away and died," Romney added. Though Romney has apologized profusely, Beltway insiders said he would need to distance himself from his I-tried-to-help-sickpeople image. Sources noted that Romney's current promise to take away health care from anyone who can't afford it is a step in the right direction, but might not be enough. "The major strike against Mitt Romney is that he not only tried to help people get medical care, he actually did help people get medical care," conservative columnist Jonah Goldberg said. "No other Republican in the field has that type of baggage. And in the end, in order to defeat President Obama, the GOP needs someone who has a track record of never wanting to help sick people." Thus far, Romney is polling strongly in early primary states like New Hampshire and Iowa, but Republican strategists and voters agree that even in a general election, his sordid past would continue to dog him. "I don't think I can vote for someone like that," Pennsylvania Republican Eric Tolbert said. "He says he's sorry, but how do I know that's the real Mitt Romney? What happens if he gets elected and tries to help sick people again?" "I like Michele Bachmann now," Tolbert added. "Because what this country needs is a president who doesn't give a fuck about helping people."
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