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Post by lakhota on May 4, 2011 15:00:32 GMT -5
Small potatoes.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 15:04:38 GMT -5
Hey, handy- I am part Cherokee also. My favorite part.
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Post by deziloooooo on May 4, 2011 15:12:22 GMT -5
I guess sometime today I'll have to drag out my dad's DD214 because I know that in all that mumbo jumbo that I don't quite understand there are mission names from his time in Nam. Need to see if there's anything 'not PC' in them that I should supposedly be in an uproar over. But I still don't see what the big deal is over the mission being called Geronimo and other than 1 link from 1 Native American group, I haven't seen anyone else (other than krickett) making a big deal over it...... a little more then "1 Native American Group"... "The top staffer for the Senate Indian Affairs Committee is objecting to the U.S. military's use of the code name "Geronimo" for Osama bin Laden during the raid that killed the al-Qaida leader.
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Post by deziloooooo on May 4, 2011 15:15:53 GMT -5
You could have at least spelled his name correctly in the thread title. Corrected, sorry...not covered in spellcheck..
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 15:27:16 GMT -5
Had to research the Senate Indian Affairs committee.. led by Daniel Akaka-- Democrat. John Barrasso- Republican. Who is leading the charge here about the Geronimo thing?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 15:40:46 GMT -5
Loretta Tuell, Democrat, leading this Geronimo thing.. Dems against Obama? I figured it was Dems, because they are the big PC ones. Only reason I posted here was because I thought it funny that our libs here seem to have no problem with this, because it belongs to Obama. Looks like some Senate libs disagree with you libs here. Interesting, but not surprising. I would never expect Pubs to go after the word Geronimo.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 15:43:37 GMT -5
Sure the mission was called Geronimo. It is also true, and I posted it, that Bin Laden was referred to as Geronimo. WH is backtracking on this, downplaying it, because some DEMOCRATS in the Senate started a stink about it. It's all very stupid. Republicans did not start this. I just researched the whole thing. It is the PC dems.
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Post by deziloooooo on May 4, 2011 15:46:27 GMT -5
Loretta Tuell, Democrat, leading this Geronimo thing.. Dems against Obama? I figured it was Dems, because they are the big PC ones. Only reason I posted here was because I thought it funny that our libs here seem to have no problem with this, because it belongs to Obama. Looks like some Senate libs disagree with you libs here. Interesting, but not surprising. I would never expect Pubs to go after the word Geronimo. I am getting that you are not in favor of PC, mmm, must be a pub thing, I wonder what is the objection?? Simple manners and good taste to me, which is a important way of living with others. I am sure you taught respect for others and the p's and Q's of what is considered proper behavior to your kids as they grew up, and included in that would be PC I would think. And you are a pub remember?
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Post by henryclay on May 4, 2011 15:51:22 GMT -5
How exactly the term was used remains unclear. After bin Laden was killed, the military sent a message back to the White House: "Geronimo EKIA" — enemy killed in action. However, U.S. officials have since said that "Geronimo" was the name of the operation itself and that "Jackpot" was the codeword for bin Laden.
A White House spokesman has referred questions about the code name to the Pentagon, The Associated Press reports, noting that a Defense Department spokeswoman declined to comment.
•Steven Newcomb, a columnist for the weekly newspaper Indian Country Today, criticizes what he calls a disrespectful use of a name revered by many Native Americans. "Apparently, having an African-American president in the White House is not enough to overturn the more than 200-year American tradition of treating and thinking of Indians as enemies of the United States," writes Newcomb, Shawnee/Lenape, who is co-founder and co-director of the Indigenous Law Institute. content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/05/use-of-geronimo-codename-in-bin-laden-operation-stirs-american-indian-backlash/1
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 15:52:48 GMT -5
No, I did not teach my kids to think in weird ways others consider proper-- like hanging tag names on people. I just taught them respect for all people and the difference between right and wrong. I think most things PC are stupid and nit-pickey. Like this. Do you approve of Senate Dems going after Obama for the Geronimo word?
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Post by marshabar1 on May 4, 2011 15:59:50 GMT -5
Loretta Tuell, Democrat, leading this Geronimo thing.. Dems against Obama? I figured it was Dems, because they are the big PC ones. Only reason I posted here was because I thought it funny that our libs here seem to have no problem with this, because it belongs to Obama. Looks like some Senate libs disagree with you libs here. Interesting, but not surprising. I would never expect Pubs to go after the word Geronimo. That's the whole point with all this stuff. Libs are so *gasp gasp* over these little niceties when it involves a conservative. So it is very funny to rib libs over these same little niceties when the Obama administration commits PC faux pas. But again, diametrically contrary simultaneous occurrences don't discombobulate a lib mind.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 16:11:38 GMT -5
Thx for getting it, marsha. I'll move on now. Just had to get to the source of where this is coming from, which I did.
Uh, steff-- when I refer to libs, as I have said MANY times, I refer to general liberal policies, not individual. I try not to single out individuals here, except for politicians and blabbermouth talkers about liberal things-- which is fair game on a political message board.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 4, 2011 16:19:17 GMT -5
Easily amused. . . The US government may have captured and killed Osama Bin Laden with a surgical strike, but it also dropped a bombshell on Native America in the process. “We’ve ID’d Geronimo,” said the voice of the Navy SEAL who reported the hunt for Osama bin Laden was over. The President, and all those gathered in the situation room, waited on edge for the voice to return with the triumphant news, that in fact, “Geronimo” was dead. According to multiple sources, “Geronimo-E KIA” is the message that was sent to the White House by the strike team to announce that bin Laden, the “E,” or Enemy, was Killed In Action. As news of bin Laden’s death spread relief across America and the world, revelations that the assigned code name of Enemy Number One was “Geronimo,” a legendary Apache leader, caused shock waves in Indian communities across the country. It is being interpreted as a slap in the face of Native people, a disturbing message that equates an iconic symbol of Native American pride with the most hated evildoer since Adolf Hitler.The death of bin Laden is arguably the most important news story of the year, and embedded within it is a message that an Indian warrior, a symbol of Native American survival in the face of racial annihilation, is associated with modern terrorism and the attacks on 9/11. The “bin Laden is dead” news story will make thousands of impressions on the minds of people around the globe, and the name Geronimo will now be irrevocably linked with the world’s most reviled terrorist. Potentially the most disturbing fact is what this says to American Indian children. It equates being Native American with being hated, an enemy to the world, and someone to be hunted down and killed, and re-casts one of their heroes into a villainous role.indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/ict_sbc/bin-laden-code-name-%E2%80%9Cgeronimo%E2%80%9D-is-a-bomb-in-indian-country/
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 16:20:26 GMT -5
hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....................................... not happy having Senate Dems exposed as fools, again??
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 16:22:19 GMT -5
It was BOTH, steff. Not really that difficult..
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Post by domeasingold on May 4, 2011 16:29:04 GMT -5
Did you ever think that maybe Geronimo may have been Obamas call sign. You could interperet the message to: Geronimo E-KIA as GERONIMO(President Obama) E (enemy) KIA (killed in action). And Geronimo was the positive signal to Obama that the mission was a success. Other wise it could have been: CHARLIE SHEEN E E. Enemy escaped.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 16:31:18 GMT -5
Hey, dome-- you could fly that one by Washington.. got some Dems up there making a stink about this.....
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Post by marshabar1 on May 4, 2011 16:56:34 GMT -5
The leader of Apache warrior Geronimo's tribe is asking President Barack Obama for a formal apology for the government's use of the revered figure's moniker as a code name for Osama bin Laden.
Fort Sill Apache Tribal Chairman Jeff Houser sent a letter to the president Tuesday, saying equating the legendary Apache warrior to a "mass murderer and cowardly terrorist" was painful and offensive to all Native Americans.
The letter was posted Wednesday morning on the Oklahoma tribe's website.
"Right now Native American children all over this country are facing the reality of having one of their most revered figures being connected to a terrorist and murderer of thousands of innocent Americans," Houser wrote. "Think about how they feel at this point."hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BIN_LADEN_GERONIMO?SITE=NCAGW&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-05-04-17-15-43
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on May 4, 2011 16:57:38 GMT -5
Frankly, this is a non-issue that will blow over in a day or two.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 16:59:56 GMT -5
It really was not a good code word. Poor choice for team Obama if his own people are calling him out.
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