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Post by Colleenz on May 2, 2011 15:00:36 GMT -5
So 2 minutes to walk SBS, 1 to walk back, 5 minutes to walk Swamp, 1 minute to walk back, and 10 minutes to walk Beer - 2+1+5+1+10 = 19 minutes so you and Swamp would miss the bus.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 2, 2011 15:25:52 GMT -5
Dr. Pig: it would be in the weak nuclear range. You'd be looking at mass changes around 10 1 to 10 4 MeV/c 2. Lassie: Here's a riddle that I made up on my own just now. There's no analog on the Internet, hence cheating is impossible. Suppose: 1. All Slowlings are Lassis. 2. All Moonies are Lassis but no Moonies are Rovians. 3. Some Debites are Slowlings. 4. All Ratchlings are Debites. 5. Some Moonies are Piglets and some aren't. 6. Some Rovians are Ratchlings. 7. There are no Debites that aren't also Piglets. 8. All Slowlings are Rovians, but no Ratchlings are Rovians Slowlings. 9. Everyone is either a Lassi or a Rovian. 10. There is at least one Piglet who is neither a Debite nor a Slowling. The Question: Is it possible for all Piglets who are neither Slowlings nor Debites to be Rovians? Justify your answer. ETA: Re: #150. This puzzle is also in my brainteaser thread. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by KaraBoo on May 2, 2011 15:28:39 GMT -5
I'll take a stab (although, I'm quite sure my feeble mind is no match for Virgil's).
No - because if Everyone is either a Lassi or a Rovian, then no one is a Piglet, Slowling or Debites.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on May 2, 2011 15:31:55 GMT -5
Yes. #9.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 2, 2011 15:38:57 GMT -5
The various "classes" aren't mutually exclusive. A person can be a Rovian and a Piglet, for instance. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Ah, but perhaps some or all of the Piglets are Lassis, meaning they wouldn't have to be Rovians at all. ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png) You've got to justify your answer. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I should also add that none of the sets are empty (for the more mathematically-minded among us who might try to weasel out a trivial solution. ![](http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/48_48.gif) )
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Post by Peace Of Mind on May 2, 2011 15:43:43 GMT -5
LMAO!! No I don't! But my reason was the same as Iggy's. Why type more than I have to? ;D It's because what you said: "Everyone is either a Lassi or a Rovian." It's not like I put a lot of thought to it. I don't care if people think I'm dumb, nor do I Google to prove otherwise. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Colleenz on May 2, 2011 15:48:20 GMT -5
No. Since this was left for Lassie I will let her post the explanation. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I have no idea where the brainteaser thread got buried.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 2, 2011 15:50:46 GMT -5
Moon exiled it to the 'Games' board. ![](http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/tongue_smile.gif) Iggy: Certainly a Piglet can be a Rovian. But the question is: can all Piglets (who meet the specified conditions) be Rovians?
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Post by Chocolate Lover on May 2, 2011 15:56:40 GMT -5
<<backs out of thread in search of asprin and vodka>>
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Post by Colleenz on May 2, 2011 15:56:51 GMT -5
But what about the Piglets that are not Debites?
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Post by Opti on May 2, 2011 16:02:30 GMT -5
Virgil, 6. Some Rovians are Ratchlings. 8. All Slowlings are Rovians, but no Ratchlings are Rovians. #6 and #8 contradict each other. Some Rovians are Ratchlings but no Ratchlings are Rovians?! ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Also, if all Slowlings are Lassis and Rovians that doesn't make sense with #9! ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png)
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on May 2, 2011 16:22:35 GMT -5
Whoops! SL only can solve? ![](http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/47_47.gif) No - it's up to anyone who wants to play to try to solve. I merely suggested a logic problem that would allow all players to have a go at it.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on May 2, 2011 16:26:29 GMT -5
SL, does that mean you don't know the answer either? You know. Being in my head and all. ![](http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/tongue_smile.gif)
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on May 2, 2011 16:28:13 GMT -5
Then if you don't know the answer POM, neither do I. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Peace Of Mind on May 2, 2011 16:30:45 GMT -5
I admit to 1. Just skimming; and 2. Sucking at word games, esp. if they include math. They make me sleepy. ;D I think it's Virgil's evil plan to make me stop posting. ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png)
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Post by Befferz on May 2, 2011 16:35:07 GMT -5
Virgil, 6. Some Rovians are Ratchlings. 8. All Slowlings are Rovians, but no Ratchlings are Rovians. #6 and #8 contradict each other. Some Rovians are Ratchlings but no Ratchlings are Rovians?! ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Also, if all Slowlings are Lassis and Rovians that doesn't make sense with #9! ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png) Unless #9 isn't exclusive--someone can be a Lassi and a Rovian? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png)
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Post by Opti on May 2, 2011 16:36:29 GMT -5
The Question: Is it possible for all Piglets who are neither Slowlings nor Debites to be Rovians?
According to Virgil's rules Piglets are either Debites or Moonies. Since all Moonies are Lassis, the answer is no.
Only a Debite Piglet Ratchling could be a Rovian.
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Post by Peace Of Mind on May 2, 2011 16:37:49 GMT -5
Wow, Optimist. That actually makes sense. ![](http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/stock/smiley-love0030.gif) Virgil - What she said! ![](http://boards.msn.com/Themes/default/emoticons/tongue_smile.gif)
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Post by DebMD (banned) on May 2, 2011 18:11:50 GMT -5
I answered Hinder to the passing other EEers 20 extra ticket puzzle. That's OK Rovo <sniffle,sniffle> I'll get my hugs elsewhere...Umph! But if YOU ever need a hug or kiss I'm here for you ![:-*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/kiss.png) ![:-*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/kiss.png) ![:-*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/kiss.png) .
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Post by Peace Of Mind on May 2, 2011 18:23:03 GMT -5
Deb, are those your words? That was great!
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Post by DebMD (banned) on May 2, 2011 18:29:10 GMT -5
Glad you liked it. ![:-*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/kiss.png) and Karma for you. That was my very first one I'm sure I'll get better. Again Virgil Thanx! ![:-*](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/kiss.png) and Karma for you.
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Post by unrepentant_spendthrift on May 2, 2011 18:31:58 GMT -5
Deb, ![](http://us.social.s-msn.com/s/images/emoticons/thumbs_up.gif)
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 2, 2011 18:40:12 GMT -5
You're absolutely right, Opti. I goofed in the problem statement. I've corrected it in the original and posted the edited version here. ![](http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/JiminiChristmas/smileys/button29934414.png) Suppose: 1. All Slowlings are Lassis. 2. All Moonies are Lassis but no Moonies are Rovians. 3. Some Debites are Slowlings. 4. All Ratchlings are Debites. 5. Some Moonies are Piglets and some aren't. 6. Some Rovians are Ratchlings. 7. There are no Debites that aren't also Piglets. 8. All Slowlings are Rovians, but no Ratchlings are Slowlings. 9. Everyone is either a Lassi or a Rovian (or both). 10. There is at least one Piglet who is neither a Debite nor a Slowling. The Question: Is it possible for all Piglets who are neither Slowlings nor Debites to be Rovians? Justify your answer. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) And Deb! That's awesome! ;D I'll give you a karma hit when I recharge. It says that some Piglets are Debites and some Moonies are Piglets, but there's nothing to suggest that all Piglets are either Debites or Moonies. Apologies for the goof in clue #8. ![](http://media.funsmileys.com/smileys/sad002.gif) I'm quite certain the new clues are all logically consistent. What wonderful participation on this one! ![](http://us.social.s-msn.com/s/images/emoticons/thumbs_up.gif) I'll be gone for the next hour (voting in our federal election up here).
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on May 2, 2011 18:42:02 GMT -5
Vote PC, Virgil.
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Post by Sammy on May 2, 2011 18:43:10 GMT -5
Deb made a cartoon with me and MU as the main characters. How cool is that??? ;D Now go think up something from scratch, Deb. No postmortem stuff though.
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Post by DebMD (banned) on May 2, 2011 18:52:07 GMT -5
Actually Sam that was Lassie and MU.
I'll make one 'extra' special for YOU.
Heheheh
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Post by Peace Of Mind on May 2, 2011 18:54:41 GMT -5
I thought it was Tina. Did you see her hair?! ![](http://media.funsmileys.com/smileys/surprised008.gif) Deb, thanks for the karma!
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on May 2, 2011 18:55:59 GMT -5
I thought it was Tina. Did you see her hair?! ![](http://media.funsmileys.com/smileys/surprised008.gif) EXACTLY !!! Only Tina can pull off that hairstyle.
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Post by Befferz on May 2, 2011 18:57:43 GMT -5
Virgil, 6. Some Rovians are Ratchlings. 8. All Slowlings are Rovians, but no Ratchlings are Rovians. #6 and #8 contradict each other. Some Rovians are Ratchlings but no Ratchlings are Rovians?! ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Also, if all Slowlings are Lassis and Rovians that doesn't make sense with #9! ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png) Unless #9 isn't exclusive--someone can be a Lassi and a Rovian? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Ok, so apparently I'm correct?
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on May 2, 2011 19:00:16 GMT -5
You'll have to wait for Virgil to return, beffs. He went to vote (but he also did some amending to the original problem, so you might want to check it again).
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