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Post by marshabar1 on Apr 27, 2011 14:18:02 GMT -5
It's a fake. Adobe Illustrator Posted by Ann Barnhardt - April 27, AD 2011 10:23 AM MST Over at TheSmokingGun.com , graphic artists are already saying that the Obama BC released this morning is an OBVIOUS fake. They have opened the PDF image in Adobe Illustrator, and it is indeed made up of many component images. It is not a single image, as a true scan that was simply PDF'd would be. In other words, it's a damn Photoshop. Click Here for TheSmokingGun's page and read the comment thread in particular. www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/barack-obama/birth-obama-certer-movement-098513If this is proved and certified by serious Adobe Illustrator / Photoshop experts who are willing to go on the record publically to be a fake, Obama should be arrested IMMEDIATELY. This is the good work of BryanKeithNixon.com bryankeithnixon.com/
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Post by deziloooooo on Apr 27, 2011 14:23:36 GMT -5
Great , now what will we call this one, How about, "Adobe Gate ", there ya go, hey Krick..your still alive on this one, LOL. Just Joshing , couldn't help it , on calling on you, please forgive , but seriously, bet it gets big play. No rest for the weary...thanks Marsh needed that one... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 14:24:22 GMT -5
Well, hell!! I did hear on the radio that their guys are on the way to Hawaii right now to get the long form copy. Maybe this one is just something Hawaii gave up until then... a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy.............................?
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Post by marshabar1 on Apr 27, 2011 14:25:02 GMT -5
You want a good laugh, dez, go to Ann Barnhardt's website. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 14:28:15 GMT -5
awesome.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Apr 27, 2011 14:32:48 GMT -5
Showing it, and releasing it are two different things. He's going to have to, as Donald Trump suggested today, let the experts examine it. I'd put money on it being real.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Apr 27, 2011 14:33:44 GMT -5
My simple reasoning for believing Obama is a citizen is that I have faith in the Secret Service, the CIA, the NSA and other agencies. If this guy wasn't the real deal, they'd have taken him down by now.
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Post by Angel! on Apr 27, 2011 14:36:46 GMT -5
LOL! It didn't even take a day before some so-called "expert" denounces it's authenticity. I wonder why we haven't heard some expert testimony from burns explaining why it isn't legit.
This is why he shouldn't even have bothered, because those who don't want to believe he is a citizen will continue with their belief regardless of what he does.
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Post by floridayankee on Apr 27, 2011 14:46:12 GMT -5
It's a fake. Adobe Illustrator Posted by Ann Barnhardt - April 27, AD 2011 10:23 AM MST Over at TheSmokingGun.com , graphic artists are already saying that the Obama BC released this morning is an OBVIOUS fake. " THIS IN NO WAS PROVES THAT ANYTHING ON IT IS FAKE" That's from your own post Marsha...so it's obviously a fake? Good lord girl...quit beating this dead horse.
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Post by handyman2 on Apr 27, 2011 14:48:36 GMT -5
What I find amazing is the misspelled words on the document. Real amaturish for a birth certificate.
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Post by handyman2 on Apr 27, 2011 14:57:04 GMT -5
What I saw looking at the two shown here and the one released by the whitehouse are not the same. Why the difference?
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Post by Angel! on Apr 27, 2011 15:05:45 GMT -5
Brilliant! So Obama trumps Trump by releasing his BC and forcing Trump's hand on his offer to exchange disclosures- Obama's BC for Trump's tax records. Trump said that? Freaking hilarious!! I bet he still doesn't release his tax records. What I want to know is what Trump was talking about when he kept saying he has people in Hawaii investigating & they cannot believe what they are finding. I am assuming he was just talking out of his ass.
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Post by safeharbor37 on Apr 27, 2011 15:05:40 GMT -5
After a perceived "stonewall" it is typical that doubts continue. The question is, if this was so simple, why didn't he do it sooner. Reminds of the John Kennedy assassination. NO matter what was released 40 years after the fact, the questions continue. There are still questions about the Lincoln Assassination, even the Hamilton/Burr duel. It's always better to "clear the air" immediately. It's too late now. I still think that it's a waste of time, but that won't change anything. Next we'd need to have a DNA test to be sure he wasn't actually the son of Frank the pervert. Only 5 more years to 2016.
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Post by Angel! on Apr 27, 2011 15:13:58 GMT -5
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Post by burnsattornincan on Apr 27, 2011 15:19:59 GMT -5
I wonder why we haven't heard some expert testimony from burns explaining why it isn't legit.
I did take a good look Ms. Angel D and this one looks ok to me. No overly black print in relation to other print and no character perspective issues in relation to the angle of the image (this one is straight on however) like the COLB clearly showed. They didn't repeat the same mistakes as last time around...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 15:21:07 GMT -5
SO funny!! I hope they get through this one quick, because I want them to get on all the other missing info.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Apr 27, 2011 16:02:10 GMT -5
My simple reasoning for believing Obama is a citizen is that I have faith in the Secret Service, the CIA, the NSA and other agencies. If this guy wasn't the real deal, they'd have taken him down by now. Really? You have faith? Didn't the NSA have information about the plot of 9/11 before it happened and the FBI were pissed off because they didn't share it to help prevent the occurence?
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 27, 2011 16:22:26 GMT -5
I wasn't ready to see all the birther's go so soon.
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on Apr 27, 2011 17:03:59 GMT -5
I don't know enough about Adobe to have an opinion on the authenticity, but I seriously doubt the Obama administration would submit a fake that could be so easily uncovered.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Apr 27, 2011 17:08:35 GMT -5
I don't know enough about Adobe to have an opinion on the authenticity, but I seriously doubt the Obama administration would submit a fake that could be so easily uncovered. I agree, they were smart enough to get the majority of 320 million people to vote for him. I think they are smart enough to pull off a fake or real copy of the COB. Personally I care more about one's ability, intelligence and accomplishments.
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Post by marshabar1 on Apr 27, 2011 17:26:07 GMT -5
I don't know enough about Adobe to have an opinion on the authenticity, but I seriously doubt the Obama administration would submit a fake that could be so easily uncovered. Sometimes "bemused" people do "bemused" things. REVEALED: President Obama is a lucky man – The Kenyan born ruler of the American people
Posted by African Press International on April 13, 2011
By Chief editor Korir.
Now, President Obama has announced his intention to run for a second term despite a questionable citizenship.
The man born in Mombasa has managed to run the White House well and wants another term. Obama has decided not to reveal his citizenship because if he does, he will be taken to court for having ruled a country against the constitution which states that a president must be a citizen by birth.
Sources disclose to API that President Obama will write a very interesting biography revealing his birthplace, but only when he is no longer the President. One thing he should not forget, however, is the fact that he can still be prosecuted after leaving office.
The former Mombasa Imam who gave Obama’s mother the birth certificate after the birth of Barack Hussein Obama is now living in the UK after seeking for asylum in 2008 when the subject of Obama’s citizenship was in top gear. The Imam fled Mombasa to Britain where he decided to remain for his own safety. The former Imam tells API that he will soon hold a press conference on the issue.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 17:30:08 GMT -5
Those reports from Africa just keep coming,don't they?
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Post by marshabar1 on Apr 27, 2011 17:36:08 GMT -5
Korir, you remember is the one who scrubbed the website because he had published a transcript of a conversation with Michelle Obama which did not go over well. I'm not sure if they threatened to sue. She had complained that African press should be supporting blacks not undermining them by publishing birther questions raised by WMD.
Supposedly went something like this:
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Apr 27, 2011 17:37:04 GMT -5
No, they don't, but keep digging ;D
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Post by henryclay on Apr 27, 2011 17:49:18 GMT -5
What difference does it make if it's real or not? How do we get beyond the Constitutional requirement that his daddy be an American citizen? Was that requirement ever Constitutionally lifted. If so, how and when? But it is a start. But it is ONLY a start. And my money is on Trump and May 22nd. Unless Obama starts making other disclosures in the meantime , , , non of whiich will be complimentary.
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Post by ugonow on Apr 27, 2011 18:06:59 GMT -5
From the Atlas Shrugs liberal leaning site----"In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the President’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii. The state sent the campaign the President’s birth certificate, the same legal documentation provided to all Hawaiians as proof of birth in state, and the campaign immediately posted it on the internet. That birth certificate can be seen here (PDF). When any citizen born in Hawaii requests their birth certificate, they receive exactly what the President received. In fact, the document posted on the campaign website is what Hawaiians use to get a driver’s license from the state and the document recognized by the Federal Government and the courts for all legal purposes. That’s because it is the birth certificate. This is not and should not be an open question. The President believed the distraction over his birth certificate wasn’t good for the country. It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the American people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a country. Therefore, the President directed his counsel to review the legal authority for seeking access to the long form certificate and to request on that basis that the Hawaii State Department of Health make an exception to release a copy of his long form birth certificate. They granted that exception in part because of the tremendous volume of requests they had been getting. President Barack Obama's long form birth certificate can be seen here (PDF). Correspondence with the Hawaii State Department of Health can be seen here (PDF)." atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/04/why-did-it-take-so-long.html
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Post by marshabar1 on Apr 27, 2011 18:12:16 GMT -5
Atlasshrugs is conservative. Ultra.
It's so funny. CNN proved Monday and Tuesday that the only form Hawaii provides is the short one Obama supplied in the first place. They proved that the long form Obama released today is not considered a legal document. The short one is the one Hawaiian courts accept. Pretty convoluted stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2011 18:17:20 GMT -5
Atlasshrugs LIBERAL? ? Cute!! So, Marsha-- that quote.. it was wiped off the face of the internet? But saved by many.............
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