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Post by lonewolf2019 on Apr 21, 2011 11:01:23 GMT -5
I don't know who Jerry Brown is, lol. Jan Brewer just freaks me out. Jerry is our California Governor.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 11:13:24 GMT -5
After researching it for the first time yesterday I guess I am now officially a birther. There are MANY unanswered questions-- and I could care LESS what you think about what I think.
**AZ tried to pass a law to enforce the requirements law, but it was so poorly written my Gov had to veto it. Maybe they will try again, with a well written law. Yeah, my Gov Brewer is getting old, saggy, and wrinkled. She does not go the plastic face route. She is also a poor public speaker. But she is very sharp, and we will keep her.**
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Post by floridayankee on Apr 21, 2011 11:48:28 GMT -5
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Post by lakhota on Apr 21, 2011 16:49:48 GMT -5
I have to figure out a way to forgive Lakhota for all the bad things he said about me on the now defunct MSN UK boards. Don't strain yourself. I said them for your benefit.
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Post by lakhota on Apr 21, 2011 16:53:41 GMT -5
Well look who's back the famous Lakhota.....I knew you would return to repost everything from the Liberal Media ad nauseum.....thought you said you would never return because you didn't like being treated so roughly be the Mods here. Sounds like one of us is a LIAR.
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 21, 2011 17:00:27 GMT -5
A new Federal Grant must have kicked in.....
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Post by Opti on Apr 21, 2011 17:09:10 GMT -5
First there was the story that his original was lost in a fire.. that changed to.. no,it was not lost in a fire... then to "I have seen it. He was born in Hawaii, no more questions.." SO-- what is in the darned BC that is so flammable it can't be seen?? Or is it really not there, no one knows why, so Hawaii just took his word based on an old news announcement that could have been put in by grandparents?? There was another story that he was born en route to Hawaii in a plane..?? In which case no attending physician?? What IS it in there that is suspect?? Thanks for the new stories, I hadn't heard these before. The state of Hawaii has officially said that NO long form birth certificates exist from the time when Obama was born and the certificate they have shown is valid. Yes its a short form, hence AZ's law to require more docs because they want to pretend a long form is more official just because a long form would contain more info. I thought it was amusing that documentation from churches and synogues could be used for identification but not say from Buddhist temples, etc.
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Post by lakhota on Apr 21, 2011 18:04:50 GMT -5
Barack Obama's mother: The girl who ran awayA new bio suggests that Ann Dunham's story fits the archetype of the curious woman who outgrows her surroundings. The story begins, as it does for every person in the world, with his mother. For Barack Obama, it's about a seemingly all-American girl from Kansas, Stanley Ann Dunham. But what it became was a very different -- and distinctly modern -- kind of all-American story, a multicultural adventure that would lead a little boy with a peripatetic, twice-married mom to become the first African-American president of the United States. In the New York Times' excerpt of "A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama's Mother," author Janny Scott reveals how the man who wrote "Dreams From My Father" was shaped by the adventurous, ambitious, imperfect lady who bore him. It's a tantalizing slice of what will likely become one of the most talked about books of the spring, and a compelling portrait of a woman whose unorthodox life would make for a compelling read even if her only son hadn't become the 44th president. Scott's narrative illuminates Obama's youth from the point of view of its leading lady, in a story of blended families, mixed races, and varied cultures that stretches across the globe. He had an absentee Kenyan father and a Hawaiian babyhood. He had an Indonesian stepfather and half-sister. He lived among other languages and religions, listening to "the sound of the Muslim call to prayer" in Jakarta and attending at one point a Catholic school. He was the boy who had rocks thrown at him for being different, who along the way would pick up something of all his influences and environments in the formation of his character. A friend of his mother describes him as having "the manners of Asians and the ways of Americans -- being halus, being patient, calm, a good listener. If you’re not a good listener in Indonesia, you’d better leave." And he got all that -- the good and the bad and the difficult and the amazing -- because of his mother. Continue reading...www.salon.com/news/politics/barack_obama/index.html?story=/books/feature/2011/04/21/barack_obama_ann_dunham_biography
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Post by lakhota on Apr 21, 2011 18:07:32 GMT -5
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Post by humok on Apr 21, 2011 18:21:32 GMT -5
Maybe I am blind....but I looked at the Birth certificate and clicked on it to enlarge it twice so I could get a good look and scanned over it carefully and for the life of me I could not see evidence of the raised seal that a couple of pictures down was shown....I would have thought it would be easy to see on the full size especially when enlarged.........
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Post by lakhota on Apr 21, 2011 18:38:22 GMT -5
Maybe I am blind....but I looked at the Birth certificate and clicked on it to enlarge it twice so I could get a good look and scanned over it carefully and for the life of me I could not see evidence of the raised seal that a couple of pictures down was shown....I would have thought it would be easy to see on the full size especially when enlarged......... www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 21, 2011 18:43:01 GMT -5
God, this is better thanthe controversy of Jesus's burial cloth. Maybe we should turn over the birth certificate to forensic scientists to study and confirm it's actual date of origin and authenticity......
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Post by humok on Apr 21, 2011 18:51:07 GMT -5
hahahaha...gotcha Lak....At this point and time it is wasted time for this to continue...Nothing will ever be done....Even if he is not a citizen can you imagine the consequences if it were proven?
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Post by humok on Apr 21, 2011 18:52:20 GMT -5
I would like to ask you Lak....Why is it you have always played the race card when anything is said about Obama?
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Post by lakhota on Apr 21, 2011 19:54:14 GMT -5
I would like to ask you Lak....Why is it you have always played the race card when anything is said about Obama? Because I want Obama judged on his job performance - not his color and heritage. I'm not an Obama fan. So, I'm playing the race card for standing up against racism? BTW, the word "always" covers a lot of territory... Did you see the raised seal?
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Post by lakhota on Apr 21, 2011 19:59:54 GMT -5
Sounds like not even Arizona will require Obama to produce his circumcision certificate (Reference Reply #14).
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Post by deziloooooo on Apr 21, 2011 20:01:27 GMT -5
Lets face it, if those who are continuing this farce were in the birth room in Hawaii when Obama's mother was delivering, between her legs as he entered this world, and fell into those peoples hands, they would still having questiions of his birth, their claim, "I blinked ".
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Post by lakhota on Apr 21, 2011 20:10:56 GMT -5
Jerry Seinfeld, Donald Trump In War Of Words Over President Obama's Birth CertificateSafe to say, Jerry Seinfeld won't be voting for Donald Trump. The New York Post reports that the comedian pulled out of an event benefitting the St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital that Trump's son Eric is hosting in September because of his distaste for the billionaire businessman/TV host's aggressive questioning of President Obama's birth certificate and citizenship. "I just learned you canceled a show for my son's charity," Trump wrote to Seinfeld in a letter obtained by the Post, "because of the fact that I am being very aggressive with respect to President Obama, who is doing an absolutely terrible job as our leader." "We don't care that you broke your commitment," he wrote, "even though the children of St. Jude are very disappointed, and despite the fact that your manager clearly stated you are 'truly a man of his word.'" Trump also said he regretted going on Seinfeld's less than successful reality show "The Marriage Ref," calling it a failure. In a statement to the Post, a Seinfeld rep said, "Jerry... feels this kind of demagoguery has no place in public discourse... He has respectfully withdrawn from the event, and is making a contribution both to the Eric Trump Foundation and to [St. Jude]." More: www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/21/jerry-seinfeld-donald-trump_n_852061.html
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 20:17:47 GMT -5
Hey, Dez-- not one single person has stepped forward, not even frauds, to claim their moment in the sun by being in attendance at Obama's birth. Nor ever claimed to have known any bi-racial family in the neighborhood......I can CLEARLY remember the names, homes, parents, EVERYTHING, of all the kids on my block, and in 61 bi-racial families were not all that common. Because of the controversy I would think people would have spoken up by now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 20:22:17 GMT -5
I remember one of my good friends-- back around 73, that was from England and married to a black military man. I remember her telling me how they were not a big deal in England, but here in the states people treated them different.
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Post by deziloooooo on Apr 21, 2011 20:23:32 GMT -5
Hey, Dez-- not one single person has stepped forward, not even frauds, to claim their moment in the sun by being in attendance at Obama's birth. Nor ever claimed to have known any bi-racial family in the neighborhood......I can CLEARLY remember the names, homes, parents, EVERYTHING, of all the kids on my block, and in 61 bi-racial families were not all that common. Because of the controversy I would think people would have spoken up by now. Ok Krick, oops, sorry repeat please, I blinked...
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Post by ty on Apr 21, 2011 20:28:23 GMT -5
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Apr 21, 2011 21:22:28 GMT -5
The party of Lincoln reduced to racist and semi-racist morons ;D Poll 47% SURE Obama not American, 22% not sure-Chris Matthews...LOL!!
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on Apr 21, 2011 21:47:35 GMT -5
The party of Lincoln reduced to racist and semi-racist morons ;D Poll 47% SURE Obama not American, 22% not sure-Chris Matthews...LOL!! Oh, come on now. Everybody knows that Lincoln was a bigot that wanted nothing more than to toss every imported African right back to where they came from, or at least some island where they could all kill each other off.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 21:50:07 GMT -5
And he hung a bunch of Indians.................
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 22:04:23 GMT -5
Bi racial families were probably even less common in Hawaii ?
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Apr 21, 2011 22:05:17 GMT -5
There IS a revisionist theory Lincoln and Pubs used slavery and the Civil War to get their hands on the military/industrial complex. It worked - ask poor old Grant
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on Apr 22, 2011 0:30:36 GMT -5
There IS a revisionist theory Lincoln and Pubs used slavery and the Civil War to get their hands on the military/industrial complex. It worked - ask poor old Grant Ummm, try reading a real history book instead of revisionist. The North already HAD the military/industrial complex, that is why they won the war.
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Post by lakhota on Apr 22, 2011 1:00:13 GMT -5
And he hung a bunch of Indians................. Sadly true... In 1862, President Abraham Lincoln ordered the execution, by hanging, of 38 Dakota Sioux prisoners in Mankato, Minnesota. Most of those executed were holy men or political leaders of their camps. None of them were responsible for committing the crimes they were accused of. Coined as the Largest Mass Execution in U.S. History. (Brown, Dee. BURY MY HEART AT WOUNDED KNEE. New York: Holt, Rinehart, Winston, 1970. pp. 59-61) www.greatdreams.com/lies.htm"Largest mass hanging in United States history"303 Indian males were set to be hanged. What brought about the hanging of 38 Sioux Indians in Minnesota December 26, 1862 was the failure "again" of the U.S. Government to honor it's treaties with Indian Nations. Indians were not given the money or food set forth to them for signing a treaty to turn over more than a million acres of their land and be forced to live on a reservation. Indian agents keep the treaty money and food that was to go to the Indians, the food was sold to White settlers, food that was given to the Indians was spoiled and not fit for a dog to eat. Indian hunting parties went off the reservation land looking for food to feed their families, one hunting group took eggs from a White settlers land and the rest is history. Authorities in Minnesota asked President Lincoln to order the immediate execution of all 303 Indian males found guilty. Lincoln was concerned with how this would play with the Europeans, whom he was afraid were about to enter the war on the side of the South. He offered the following compromise to the politicians of Minnesota: They would pare the list of those to be hung down to 39. In return, Lincoln promised to kill or remove every Indian from the state and provide Minnesota with 2 million dollars in federal funds. Remember, he only owed the Sioux 1.4 million for the land. So, on December 26, 1862, the Great Emancipator ordered the largest mass execution in American History, where the guilt of those to be executed was entirely in doubt. Regardless of how Lincoln defenders seek to play this, it was nothing more than murder to obtain the land of the Santee Sioux and to appease his political cronies in Minnesota. "On December 6 (1862) President Lincoln notified Sibley that he should "cause to be executed" thirty-nine of the 303 convicted Santees, Execution date was the 26th of December. At the last minute, one Indian was given a reprieve. About ten o'clock the thirty-eight condemned men were marched from the prison to the scaffold. They sang the Sioux death song until soldiers pulled white caps over their heads and placed nooses around their necks. At a signal from an army officer, the control rope was cut and thirty-eight Santee Sioux dangled lifeless in the air. www.unitednativeamerica.com/hanging.html
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