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Post by thyme4change on Nov 25, 2024 12:20:04 GMT -5
The scariest things he said he will do seem to involve suspending the constitution. I am hoping that won’t happen - but if it does, we are fucked.
He can cancel elections, or revoke voting rights. He can stay in office. He can turn the military against citizens. He can make Christianity mandatory, and all other religions illegal. He can silence the press. He can randomly revoke citizenship. He can revote protections for just about anyone. He can obliterate our criminal justice systems and randomly throw anyone in jail - maybe even execute the Central Park 5. He could take everyone’s guns, or at least take some people’s guns. Obviously, there are a bunch of other things he could do - but this list includes my top concerns.
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 25, 2024 17:41:28 GMT -5
RFK Jr. Trump’s pick for the health dept., is an advocate of drinking raw milk. Raw milk can contain all kinds of diseases, including bird flu. www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/h5n1-bird-flu-raw-milk-california-united-states-of-america/This is going to be like Covid all over again. MAGA will start drinking raw milk and claiming how miraculous it is, at the same time that they are experiencing sickness/death, which they will angrily insist is not caused by drinking raw milk. Finding it hard to give a shit about them. Let them drink their raw milk and their raw water and shit their guts out on the crapper. Just more Darwin Award contenders.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 25, 2024 18:46:57 GMT -5
RFK Jr. Trump’s pick for the health dept., is an advocate of drinking raw milk. Raw milk can contain all kinds of diseases, including bird flu. www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/h5n1-bird-flu-raw-milk-california-united-states-of-america/This is going to be like Covid all over again. MAGA will start drinking raw milk and claiming how miraculous it is, at the same time that they are experiencing sickness/death, which they will angrily insist is not caused by drinking raw milk. Finding it hard to give a shit about them. Let them drink their raw milk and their raw water and shit their guts out on the crapper. Just more Darwin Award contenders. There will be raw milk people - but it is expensive, and some of it taste like butthole. So, a lot of people won’t do it just - but will still insist it is so good for you.
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Post by tallguy on Nov 25, 2024 18:47:10 GMT -5
RFK Jr. Trump’s pick for the health dept., is an advocate of drinking raw milk. Raw milk can contain all kinds of diseases, including bird flu. www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/h5n1-bird-flu-raw-milk-california-united-states-of-america/This is going to be like Covid all over again. MAGA will start drinking raw milk and claiming how miraculous it is, at the same time that they are experiencing sickness/death, which they will angrily insist is not caused by drinking raw milk. Finding it hard to give a shit about them. Let them drink their raw milk and their raw water and shit their guts out on the crapper. Just more Darwin Award contenders. Yeah, the more that end up killing themselves the fewer the rest of us have to deal with. Sounds good.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 26, 2024 0:06:32 GMT -5
More chaos: “On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States, and its ridiculous Open Borders,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform. “This Tariff will remain in effect until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!”
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Nov 26, 2024 0:58:25 GMT -5
More chaos: “On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States, and its ridiculous Open Borders,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform. “This Tariff will remain in effect until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!” That's a huge opening shot across the bow salvo to our border countries. Putting them on notice Trump is serious on the drugs and illegal crossings. The ball will be in their court. Let's see what they do with it.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 26, 2024 1:07:02 GMT -5
More chaos: “On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States, and its ridiculous Open Borders,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform. “This Tariff will remain in effect until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!” That's a huge opening shot across the bow salvo to our border countries. Putting them on notice Trump is serious on the drugs and illegal crossings. The ball will be in their court. Let's see what they do with it. Do you think that the governments of those two countries have the ability to stop the flow of drugs and all illegal border crossing?
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Post by mollyc on Nov 26, 2024 1:57:13 GMT -5
More chaos: “On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States, and its ridiculous Open Borders,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform. “This Tariff will remain in effect until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!” That's a huge opening shot across the bow salvo to our border countries. Putting them on notice Trump is serious on the drugs and illegal crossings. The ball will be in their court. Let's see what they do with it. Oh I know exactly what our governments will do. Because Trump is just being a performative ass, our governments will put tariffs on US imports into our countries. The same as happened last time.
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Nov 26, 2024 2:00:00 GMT -5
That's a huge opening shot across the bow salvo to our border countries. Putting them on notice Trump is serious on the drugs and illegal crossings. The ball will be in their court. Let's see what they do with it. Do you think that the governments of those two countries have the ability to stop the flow of drugs and all illegal border crossing? I'm sure they have the ability but the real question is do they have desire to do so? There may be corruption on both sides.
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Post by mollyc on Nov 26, 2024 2:05:48 GMT -5
Do you think that the governments of those two countries have the ability to stop the flow of drugs and all illegal border crossing? I'm sure they have the ability but the real question is do they have desire to do so? There may be corruption on both sides. No. The corruption is in your country. If there wasn’t a market for drugs, sex slaves and undocumented labour, there would be no money in smuggling drugs or people. Get your own shit together before you ask others to do your work for you. Isn’t that the Maga mantra?
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Post by Opti on Nov 26, 2024 7:05:57 GMT -5
More chaos: “On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States, and its ridiculous Open Borders,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform. “This Tariff will remain in effect until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!” That's a huge opening shot across the bow salvo to our border countries. Putting them on notice Trump is serious on the drugs and illegal crossings. The ball will be in their court. Let's see what they do with it. I agree with mollyc if he was really serious, he'd address why it's coming to the US instead of trying to push the work off on other countries. To me this is proof he is lazy and does not expect anything to change. It's just MAGA marketing like Mexico not paying for the Wall. It will also raise the price of groceries. A significant amount of produce comes from Canada and Mexico since NAFTA.I guess this means rip he really doesn't have a commitment to reducing the price of groceries if he wants to raise prices on some of it by a minimum of 25%.
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Post by tbop77 on Nov 26, 2024 7:12:12 GMT -5
More chaos: “On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States, and its ridiculous Open Borders,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform. “This Tariff will remain in effect until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!” That's a huge opening shot across the bow salvo to our border countries. Putting them on notice Trump is serious on the drugs and illegal crossings. The ball will be in their court. Let's see what they do with it. The farmers are begging to be exempt for his rounding up plan. How's that going to work? I'd say the ball is in Trump's court. Let's see what he does with it. Just interested to know, do you believe they should be exempt?
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Post by tbop77 on Nov 26, 2024 7:16:09 GMT -5
I'm sure they have the ability but the real question is do they have desire to do so? There may be corruption on both sides. No. The corruption is in your country. If there wasn’t a market for drugs, sex slaves and undocumented labour, there would be no money in smuggling drugs or people. Get your own shit together before you ask others to do your work for you. Isn’t that the Maga mantra? The MAGA mantra that comes from Trump is always blame someone else. And you are 100% correct. The market for drugs and undocumented workers cause problems in other countries. But instead of addressing the issues, we just say AMERICA FIRST.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Nov 26, 2024 7:26:31 GMT -5
They also act like other countries will just take it. They can chose to respond. They are too stupid to understand how tariff wars were one precipitated of the Great Depression
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 26, 2024 8:51:33 GMT -5
I'm sure they have the ability but the real question is do they have desire to do so? There may be corruption on both sides. No. The corruption is in your country. If there wasn’t a market for drugs, sex slaves and undocumented labour, there would be no money in smuggling drugs or people. Get your own shit together before you ask others to do your work for you. Isn’t that the Maga mantra? Rip proves his statement below every single time he posts: "Comfortably uninformed." "Yes, indeed". ripvanwinkle
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 26, 2024 8:53:14 GMT -5
That's a huge opening shot across the bow salvo to our border countries. Putting them on notice Trump is serious on the drugs and illegal crossings. The ball will be in their court. Let's see what they do with it. I agree with mollyc if he was really serious, he'd address why it's coming to the US instead of trying to push the work off on other countries. To me this is proof he is lazy and does not expect anything to change. It's just MAGA marketing like Mexico not paying for the Wall. It will also raise the price of groceries. A significant amount of produce comes from Canada and Mexico since NAFTA.I guess this means rip he really doesn't have a commitment to reducing the price of groceries if he wants to raise prices on some of it by a minimum of 25%. This is also a violation of the trade agreement Trump himself signed in 2020. It diminishes our impact in the world. You can’t build alliances if no one trusts you. We’re the crazy drunk uncle of countries.
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Post by tbop77 on Nov 26, 2024 9:40:56 GMT -5
Just like last time when we had to bail the farmers out. Trump will gaslight his voters by convincing them it was paid for by the tariffs.
As the rest of the world laughs.....
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 26, 2024 9:48:00 GMT -5
Do you think that the governments of those two countries have the ability to stop the flow of drugs and all illegal border crossing? I'm sure they have the ability but the real question is do they have desire to do so? There may be corruption on both sides. I disagree that they have the ability, and not simply due to corruption. People are not as controllable as some seem to believe. You can read about the execution of drug dealers in countries with very strict laws. The fact that those individuals existed are proof that countries can't eliminate drug trafficking.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 26, 2024 9:59:33 GMT -5
Another factor in this is that Trump announced this major unilateral decision in a social media post with an effective date of less than 60 days. It is policy making that will create chaos. I don't know if that is by design or just the product of a non-disciplined mind. Either way, I don't think it is good way for US policy to be conducted.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Nov 26, 2024 10:14:44 GMT -5
Gives companies time to hike prices in anticipation of the tariffs. Win for everyone but the consumer
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 26, 2024 10:16:12 GMT -5
I'm sure they have the ability but the real question is do they have desire to do so? There may be corruption on both sides. I disagree that they have the ability, and not simply due to corruption. People are not as controllable as some seem to believe. You can read about the execution of drug dealers in countries with very strict laws. The fact that those individuals existed are proof that countries can't eliminate drug trafficking. Just heard on the TV tube that 80% of the drugs coming into the country are being brought in by Americans in their vehicles. Are they supposed to keep Americans from coming over their border in the first place? Start forcing all American cars coming back into the country to undergo a stringent search? That will be popular….. And not cheap.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 26, 2024 10:37:43 GMT -5
I disagree that they have the ability, and not simply due to corruption. People are not as controllable as some seem to believe. You can read about the execution of drug dealers in countries with very strict laws. The fact that those individuals existed are proof that countries can't eliminate drug trafficking. Just heard on the TV tube that 80% of the drugs coming into the country are being brought in by Americans in their vehicles. Are they supposed to keep Americans from coming over their border in the first place? Start forcing all American cars coming back into the country to undergo a stringent search? That will be popular….. And not cheap. Plus the jailing of large numbers of Americans when drugs are found. Perhaps even executing a few to show they are serious. Always popular when that happens.
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Post by busymom on Nov 26, 2024 12:38:25 GMT -5
I couldn't resist sharing this:
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Post by NastyWoman on Nov 26, 2024 15:11:55 GMT -5
More chaos: “On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States, and its ridiculous Open Borders,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform. “This Tariff will remain in effect until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!” Isn't this against the trade agreement between the US, Canada, and Mexico that he himself negotiated during his first term in office?
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Post by mollyanna58 on Nov 26, 2024 15:21:43 GMT -5
More chaos: “On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States, and its ridiculous Open Borders,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform. “This Tariff will remain in effect until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!” Isn't this against the trade agreement between the US, Canada, and Mexico that he himself negotiated during his first term in office? Pffft... thinks he was elected king and ruler of everything and can do whatever enters his rapidly deteriorating brain.
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Post by tbop77 on Nov 26, 2024 15:28:34 GMT -5
More chaos: “On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States, and its ridiculous Open Borders,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform. “This Tariff will remain in effect until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!” Isn't this against the trade agreement between the US, Canada, and Mexico that he himself negotiated during his first term in office? All he has to do is blame Biden. His base will believe him!
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 26, 2024 16:27:36 GMT -5
More chaos: “On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States, and its ridiculous Open Borders,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform. “This Tariff will remain in effect until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!” Isn't this against the trade agreement between the US, Canada, and Mexico that he himself negotiated during his first term in office? Yep. Signed it in 2020. Just further evidence to the world they can’t trust anything this MF says or does.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 26, 2024 17:53:36 GMT -5
Isn't this against the trade agreement between the US, Canada, and Mexico that he himself negotiated during his first term in office? Yep. Signed it in 2020. Just further evidence to the world they can’t trust anything this MF says or does. The plus side of his untrustworthiness is that although he definitively declared he would sign the documents to impose the tariffs, it doesn't mean that he will end up signing them. He could easily never mention them again or claim they were, like ripvanwinkle called it, a shot across the bow just to get their attention and he never actually planned on imposing them. The only thing we can be sure of is that he won't say that he was convinced by others his plan to implement them was a bad idea.
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 26, 2024 19:11:45 GMT -5
Trump is now promising to reinstate the student loans that the Biden admin forgave.
For all the people out there with student debt who didn’t bother to vote - or who voted for Trump because of inflation - congratulations.
Trump has shown he really doesn’t like smart college educated nerds - so it makes sense he would screw them over.
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Post by NastyWoman on Nov 27, 2024 1:20:28 GMT -5
Do you think that the governments of those two countries have the ability to stop the flow of drugs and all illegal border crossing? I'm sure they have the ability but the real question is do they have desire to do so? There may be corruption on both sides. Wow, not only did you pay attention when FOPA spouted his "wisdom" with his "there are very fine people on both sides", you even managed to paraphrase him. I'm not sure that is something to be admired but here it is nonetheless.
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