The Ten Commandments must be displayed in Louisiana class...

[Opti]

Jul 1, 2024 18:08:44 GMT -5 weltz said:

Jul 1, 2024 15:14:18 GMT -5 Tiny said:

No one ever talks about the Humanist "10 commandments" - it seems theists would rather suffer having to deal with Satanist than atheists. 


americanhumanistcenterforeducation.org/ten-commitments/

Altruism “I will help others in need without hoping for rewards.”

Critical Thinking “I will practice good judgment by asking questions and thinking for myself.”

Empathy “I will consider other people’s thoughts, feelings, and experiences.”

Environmentalism “I will take care of the Earth and the life on it.”

Ethical Development “I will always focus on becoming a better person.”

Global Awareness “I will be a good neighbor to the people who share the Earth with me and help make the world a better place for everyone.”

Humility “I will be aware of my strengths and weaknesses, and appreciate the strengths and weaknesses of others.”

Peace and Social Justice “I will help people solve problems and handle disagreements in ways that are fair for everyone.”

Responsibility “I will be a good person—even when no one is looking—and own the consequences of my actions.”

Service and Participation “I will help my community in ways that let me get to know the people I’m helping.”

Humanists.  Freethinkers. Atheists.
All the same.

Disagree moderately. One of my very first buddies when I moved out here in NJ, was a man who used to get a magazine by Humanists every month. And his daily newspaper too. You could read them, but woe to you if you destroyed or made those pieces of information unreadable prematurely. 


Dave, and I'll call him Dave because I can't remember, anyway I was whining a little about wanting to go some where and I think my used Corolla I bought, I didn't want to drive somewhere because of a really bad blind curve that people seemed to wreck their cars on frequently. So short version is he let me drive his tank of a Volvo (automatic) ... and I even asked "What if I screw up and wreck your car and end up on the roof?" 

SPOILER: Click to show

i.e. the car would flip in such a way that I would be wheels up and this car would be either totaled or really hard to get back to our apartment complex.

And yes I saw more than one car flipped on that curve, sometimes not retrieved for a day or more ... so it wasn't a stupid Q.

Dave was like, well its only a car ... they can be replaced and U cannot. OK, Opti said, but you know if I take your magazine or paper and accidently make part of it unreadable you act like I have killed your dog or several of your children. He got that, but all he had was information and ideas were precious and the car wasn't that important.

Spoiler spoiler - he also was male, a researcher, living pretty well on a PhD salary in Homdel and replacing his car would be nothing for him ,,, but that issue of Humanist is specialty publishing was hard to come by.

[dondubble]

Jul 3, 2024 23:17:14 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 1, 2024 18:08:44 GMT -5 weltz said:

Humanists.  Freethinkers. Atheists.
All the same.

Disagree moderately. One of my very first buddies when I moved out here in NJ, was a man who used to get a magazine by Humanists every month. And his daily newspaper too. You could read them, but woe to you if you destroyed or made those pieces of information unreadable prematurely. 


Dave, and I'll call him Dave because I can't remember, anyway I was whining a little about wanting to go some where and I think my used Corolla I bought, I didn't want to drive somewhere because of a really bad blind curve that people seemed to wreck their cars on frequently. So short version is he let me drive his tank of a Volvo (automatic) ... and I even asked "What if I screw up and wreck your car and end up on the roof?" 

SPOILER: Click to show

i.e. the car would flip in such a way that I would be wheels up and this car would be either totaled or really hard to get back to our apartment complex.

And yes I saw more than one car flipped on that curve, sometimes not retrieved for a day or more ... so it wasn't a stupid Q.

Dave was like, well its only a car ... they can be replaced and U cannot. OK, Opti said, but you know if I take your magazine or paper and accidently make part of it unreadable you act like I have killed your dog or several of your children. He got that, but all he had was information and ideas were precious and the car wasn't that important.

Spoiler spoiler - he also was male, a researcher, living pretty well on a PhD salary in Homdel and replacing his car would be nothing for him ,,, but that issue of Humanist is specialty publishing was hard to come by.

I subscribed to that periodical for awhile in the 80’s. I wouldn’t have wanted to party with any of their writers or staff.

[weltz]

What is the difference between humanists and atheists?


Basically, an atheist is someone who does not believe in a supreme being or other immaterial things. The term appears to have been first used in the 18th Century. A humanist is someone who has a positive approach to life and a strong concern for human welfare, values and dignity (ie “an atheist who cares”).

humanists.uk/humanistlife/what-kind-of-atheist-are-you/#:~:text=Basically%2C%20an%20atheist%20is%20someone,being%20or%20other%20immaterial%20things.&text=The%20term%20appears%20to%20have,an%20atheist%20who%20cares%E2%80%9D).

Again....humanists, atheists and freethinkers....not so different. All three don't believe in deities.
I've been to atheist meetings, freethinker meetings and humanist meetings. You'd be hard-pressed to see the difference.

[thyme4change]

Jul 4, 2024 0:43:50 GMT -5 weltz said:

What is the difference between humanists and atheists?


Basically, an atheist is someone who does not believe in a supreme being or other immaterial things. The term appears to have been first used in the 18th Century. A humanist is someone who has a positive approach to life and a strong concern for human welfare, values and dignity (ie “an atheist who cares”).

humanists.uk/humanistlife/what-kind-of-atheist-are-you/#:~:text=Basically%2C%20an%20atheist%20is%20someone,being%20or%20other%20immaterial%20things.&text=The%20term%20appears%20to%20have,an%20atheist%20who%20cares%E2%80%9D).

Again....humanists, atheists and freethinkers....not so different. All three don't believe in deities.
I've been to atheist meetings, freethinker meetings and humanist meetings. You'd be hard-pressed to see the difference.

According to these definitions- I am an atheist, but not a humanist. 🙃