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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 3, 2023 15:50:38 GMT -5
Yea 216 Nay 210 House ousts McCarthy as speaker in historic voteThe US House of Representatives voted on Tuesday to oust Kevin McCarthy as speaker – a historic moment that threatens to plunge House Republicans even further into chaos and turmoil. The House will now need to elect a new speaker, but there is no clear alternative who would have the support needed to win the gavel. McCarthy’s political future hangs in the balance and it remains to be seen whether he will seek to win back the speakership. No House speaker has ever before been ousted through the passage of a resolution to remove them. House ousts McCarthy as speaker in historic vote |
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 3, 2023 16:47:03 GMT -5
Guess all that dick sucking didn't gain him as much as he thought it would.
Fucking dipshit. This should have been seen coming from a mile away.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 3, 2023 17:46:18 GMT -5
good riddance. i wish them luck finding anyone that can please Ultra MAGA.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 3, 2023 18:25:17 GMT -5
Who wants to run a kindergarten. That is what the house republican caucus has become. I want what I want and there will be no compromise. They can now burn it down. That’s what they want to do
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Post by laterbloomer on Oct 3, 2023 19:11:16 GMT -5
I'm not sure it was smart of the dems to give Matt Gaetz a win. We'll see
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 3, 2023 19:25:14 GMT -5
I'm not sure it was smart of the dems to give Matt Gaetz a win. We'll see I have no doubt that Nancy Pelosi had an opportunity behind the scenes to offer her expertise and wisdom so I am not going to question their choice. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 3, 2023 19:31:22 GMT -5
I'm not sure it was smart of the dems to give Matt Gaetz a win. We'll see i thought the same thing, later. but it can ONLY be because McCarthy offered them NOTHING. right? because if he had, for example, offered to keep the government funded through 2024, they would have jumped at that, and he probably would have got 400 votes instead of 200. but that also would mean that McCarthy is good to his word. which he isn't. so, either way, he loses, imo. that is why this thread only has 7 posts. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 3, 2023 19:46:49 GMT -5
I'm not sure it was smart of the dems to give Matt Gaetz a win. We'll see I have no doubt that Nancy Pelosi had an opportunity behind the scenes to offer her expertise and wisdom so I am not going to question their choice. I watched the vote by rep name count this afternoon in real time. It wasn't quite clear why, but Pelosi was either absent or voted 'Present' when they called her name. She offered no yea or nay. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 3, 2023 19:49:38 GMT -5
I'm not sure it was smart of the dems to give Matt Gaetz a win. We'll see i thought the same thing, later. but it can ONLY be because McCarthy offered them NOTHING. right? because if he had, for example, offered to keep the government funded through 2024, they would have jumped at that, and he probably would have got 400 votes instead of 200. but that also would mean that McCarthy is good to his word. which he isn't. so, either way, he loses, imo. that is why this thread only has 7 posts. Not sorry McCarthy was ousted. Right after J6, McCarthy was blaming trump for the violence that day. Two or so weeks later, McCarthy was pictured all smiles with trump during his visit at mar-a-lago. |
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Post by laterbloomer on Oct 3, 2023 19:53:32 GMT -5
I'm not sure it was smart of the dems to give Matt Gaetz a win. We'll see i thought the same thing, later. but it can ONLY be because McCarthy offered them NOTHING. right? because if he had, for example, offered to keep the government funded through 2024, they would have jumped at that, and he probably would have got 400 votes instead of 200. but that also would mean that McCarthy is good to his word. which he isn't. so, either way, he loses, imo. that is why this thread only has 7 posts. I agree with you. I just can't figure out if this is good or bad overall. |
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 3, 2023 20:06:51 GMT -5
Tens first post is right, this plunges the GOP further into chaos.
There’s a substantial number of GOPers who hate Matt Gaetz and who will hate him more now that he turned his brat pack out against McCarthy.
And who do they have who both the mainstream and the radical GOPers could support? They will never agree.
And how much time do we end up waiting for them to finally pick someone?
GOP is burdened with too many showboats trying to out crazy each other rather than simply govern.
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 3, 2023 20:19:59 GMT -5
I have no doubt that Nancy Pelosi had an opportunity behind the scenes to offer her expertise and wisdom so I am not going to question their choice. I watched the vote by rep name count this afternoon in real time. It wasn't quite clear why, but Pelosi was either absent or voted 'Present' when they called her name. She offered no yea or nay. Is she still in California dealing with Feinstein funeral stuff? I read she accompanied the body. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 3, 2023 20:19:59 GMT -5
I have no doubt that Nancy Pelosi had an opportunity behind the scenes to offer her expertise and wisdom so I am not going to question their choice. I watched the vote by rep name count this afternoon in real time. It wasn't quite clear why, but Pelosi was either absent or voted 'Present' when they called her name. She offered no yea or nay. the 7 not voting could have won it for McCarthy. |
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Post by shelley413 on Oct 3, 2023 20:44:09 GMT -5
Nancy Pelosi flew to California with Diane Finestein’s (sp?) body.
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Post by imawino on Oct 4, 2023 8:13:38 GMT -5
I'm not sure it was smart of the dems to give Matt Gaetz a win. We'll see True. But I think it would have been even worse to give McCarthy a win, so not much of a choice to be made. McCarthy made his bed, and he fucked over Dems too much for them to help him at this juncture. I'm embarrassed by the chaos in our congress, which this will undoubtedly make worse or at least showcase, but it's been a chaotic disaster this entire term with the nutball MAGA crew in charge so for now all we can do is sit back and watch the show, and enjoy the warm glow around our hearts provided by McCarthy's well-deserved humiliation. |
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 4, 2023 8:47:33 GMT -5
I'm not sure it was smart of the dems to give Matt Gaetz a win. We'll see True. But I think it would have been even worse to give McCarthy a win, so not much of a choice to be made. McCarthy made his bed, and he fucked over Dems too much for them to help him at this juncture. I'm embarrassed by the chaos in our congress, which this will undoubtedly make worse or at least showcase, but it's been a chaotic disaster this entire term with the nutball MAGA crew in charge so for now all we can do is sit back and watch the show, and enjoy the warm glow around our hearts provided by McCarthy's well-deserved humiliation. I had forgotten McCarthy allowed this sham impeachment inquiry against Biden to move forward. Waste of time so far, since none of the witnesses has testified to anything Biden did wrong - one woman wrote an article with the headline’Biden deserves jail’ only to testify to the committee that the Biden she was referring to was Hunter. Made me feel less sorry McCarthy got fired. By the way, MTG wants Trump to have that job. |
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 4, 2023 8:56:37 GMT -5
I'm not sure it was smart of the dems to give Matt Gaetz a win. We'll see True. But I think it would have been even worse to give McCarthy a win, so not much of a choice to be made. McCarthy made his bed, and he fucked over Dems too much for them to help him at this juncture. I'm embarrassed by the chaos in our congress, which this will undoubtedly make worse or at least showcase, but it's been a chaotic disaster this entire term with the nutball MAGA crew in charge so for now all we can do is sit back and watch the show, and enjoy the warm glow around our hearts provided by McCarthy's well-deserved humiliation. Agreed. It's not good for the country but it was one of the most amazing displays of karma I've ever seen. And I will freely admit I laughed so hard tears were coming out of my eyes. |
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Oct 4, 2023 9:29:32 GMT -5
By the way, MTG wants Trump to have that job. Several republicans do and Troy Nehls is planning to nominate him. |
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 4, 2023 10:10:04 GMT -5
By the way, MTG wants Trump to have that job. Several republicans do and Troy Nehls is planning to nominate him. That would be fun to watch, Trump attempting to run the House Republican caucus. |
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Oct 4, 2023 10:21:45 GMT -5
i thought the same thing, later. but it can ONLY be because McCarthy offered them NOTHING. right? because if he had, for example, offered to keep the government funded through 2024, they would have jumped at that, and he probably would have got 400 votes instead of 200. but that also would mean that McCarthy is good to his word. which he isn't. so, either way, he loses, imo. that is why this thread only has 7 posts. I agree with you. I just can't figure out if this is good or bad overall. same mccarthy sucks, but whoall is goning to be next? Is there any chance for a moderate that could pull from both sides? not likely! |
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 4, 2023 10:34:10 GMT -5
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 4, 2023 10:45:21 GMT -5
By the way, MTG wants Trump to have that job. Several republicans do and Troy Nehls is planning to nominate him. Theres a house rule that you can’t be speaker if you’ve been indicted for a crime that might end up with 2 or more years imprisonment. Of the 91 indictments against him, some of them have potential jail time, so Trump can’t be speaker. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 4, 2023 11:37:23 GMT -5
Winston Churchill said it best about appeasers like McCarthy. He sucked up big time to trump after J6:
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile — hoping it will eat him last."
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 4, 2023 12:26:19 GMT -5
So where does this leave the US that has a budget that is only good until mid November? I think that the chaos that this is going to bring on the House is going to affect far more than they think it is. It might be good that McCarthy's gone, but the void isn't and no one is stepping up to fill the void.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 4, 2023 12:31:20 GMT -5
Oh, I think this assures we will have a shutdown. Since it is bumping up against Thanksgiving and Christmas, there may be a little more incentive for them to compromise. Going home an celebrating with their families while essential go to work and not getting paid may be even too much for them. We will see. Flying over Thanksgiving may be an even more difficult prospect.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 4, 2023 12:51:58 GMT -5
Oh, I think this assures we will have a shutdown. Since it is bumping up against Thanksgiving and Christmas, there may be a little more incentive for them to compromise. Going home an celebrating with their families while essential go to work and not getting paid may be even too much for them. We will see. Flying over Thanksgiving may be an even more difficult prospect. Absolutely. But I'd bet my ass, hat and gasmask that Congress takes off for the holidays without a budget. They don't give a shit anymore. |
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Oct 4, 2023 13:36:56 GMT -5
Oh, I think this assures we will have a shutdown. Since it is bumping up against Thanksgiving and Christmas, there may be a little more incentive for them to compromise. Going home an celebrating with their families while essential go to work and not getting paid may be even too much for them. We will see. Flying over Thanksgiving may be an even more difficult prospect. Absolutely. But I'd bet my ass, hat and gasmask that Congress takes off for the holidays without a budget. They don't give a shit anymore. They need to change it so congress doesn't get paid during government shutdowns so they have some skin in the game. No back pay either! |
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 4, 2023 14:31:59 GMT -5
Absolutely. But I'd bet my ass, hat and gasmask that Congress takes off for the holidays without a budget. They don't give a shit anymore. They need to change it so congress doesn't get paid during government shutdowns so they have some skin in the game. No back pay either! They're not about to vote this for themselves. Kinda like putting the fox in charge of the chicken coop. |
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