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Post by tallguy on Mar 25, 2024 0:16:32 GMT -5
What does that mean? Do you think that the US has a surplus stash of troops somewhere who have a reasonable type of training to secure a civilian border? We could pull some troops from the UK and Europe to fill the gaps. Or, and I know this is a stretch so work with me here, we could vote out all of the stupid, worthless, Trump-worshipping, POS Republicans who don't care about governing or fixing problems, elect people who actually do give a damn about the country, and start trying to do some good. Like maybe, oh I don't know, passing the border bill to start.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 25, 2024 8:44:34 GMT -5
What does that mean? Do you think that the US has a surplus stash of troops somewhere who have a reasonable type of training to secure a civilian border? We could pull some troops from the UK and Europe to fill the gaps. Again one of those sound good ideas. Please consider the logistics of moving personnel and equipment along with required support functions.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 25, 2024 13:56:41 GMT -5
What does that mean? Do you think that the US has a surplus stash of troops somewhere who have a reasonable type of training to secure a civilian border? We could pull some troops from the UK and Europe to fill the gaps. that won't make it legal. but i love the idea. we should close at least half of our bases, worldwide.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 27, 2024 10:01:58 GMT -5
Poor Rip must be pulling clumps of hair out of his head. If only trump hadn't told his cult members in the U.S. Congress to kill the bipartisan bill in January. Appeals court extends block on Texas migrant arrestsBY TARA SUTER - 03/27/24 7:55 AM ET A federal appeals court issued a ruling late Tuesday that extends the block on a Texas immigration law that authorizes local law enforcement to arrest those suspected of entering the country illegally. The 5th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals’ panel of three justices voted 2-1 to issue the pause on Senate Bill 4. The appeals court’s decision continues the months-long legal saga surrounding the legislation, which made it all the way all the Supreme Court before the appeals court halted its enforcement last week. “Texas does not demonstrate why it would be entitled to vacatur of the preliminary injunction,” the court said in its opinion. “Constitutional text, structure, and history provide strong evidence that federal statutes addressing matters such as noncitizen entry and removal are still supreme even when the State War Clause has been triggered.” The statute criminalizes the entry into the Lone Star State outside of a port of entry, making it punishable by up to six months in jail, or with subsequent crossings, a maximum of 20 years. Complete article here: Appeals court extends block on Texas migrant arrests
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 27, 2024 13:56:10 GMT -5
Poor Rip must be pulling ripping clumps of hair out of his head. If only trump hadn't told his cult members in the U.S. Congress to kill the bipartisan bill in January. Appeals court extends block on Texas migrant arrestsBY TARA SUTER - 03/27/24 7:55 AM ET A federal appeals court issued a ruling late Tuesday that extends the block on a Texas immigration law that authorizes local law enforcement to arrest those suspected of entering the country illegally. The 5th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals’ panel of three justices voted 2-1 to issue the pause on Senate Bill 4. The appeals court’s decision continues the months-long legal saga surrounding the legislation, which made it all the way all the Supreme Court before the appeals court halted its enforcement last week. “Texas does not demonstrate why it would be entitled to vacatur of the preliminary injunction,” the court said in its opinion. “Constitutional text, structure, and history provide strong evidence that federal statutes addressing matters such as noncitizen entry and removal are still supreme even when the State War Clause has been triggered.” The statute criminalizes the entry into the Lone Star State outside of a port of entry, making it punishable by up to six months in jail, or with subsequent crossings, a maximum of 20 years. Complete article here: Appeals court extends block on Texas migrant arrestsyou missed a golden opportunity, there.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 27, 2024 16:36:58 GMT -5
I know the budget that has MTG all hot and bothered includes quite a bit of money for securing the border. Not as helpful as the comprehensive bill would be - but a good way to back door your priorities without having to tell your voters that something got done.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 30, 2024 12:50:02 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 4, 2024 10:48:34 GMT -5
New York Times article. Judge Orders Timely Housing for Migrant Children Waiting at BorderThe decision established that minors at open-air sites were in legal custody of the Department of Homeland Security and thus must receive safe shelter, even if they had not yet been formally processed. The federal government is required to “expeditiously” house migrant children who cross into the United States unlawfully, rather than allow them to remain in unsafe open-air sites along the border, a Federal District Court judge ruled Wednesday night. The decision, handed down by Judge Dolly M. Gee of the United States District Court of Central California, sided mostly with the lawyers representing the children in a class-action lawsuit. It established that minors at the sites were in legal custody of the Department of Homeland Security and thus were entitled to certain rights and protections, such as a safe and sanitary environment, even if they had not yet been formally processed. The ruling comes amid a fierce political and cultural debate over the rights of migrants — including children — who enter the United States without permission. Because of an influx in crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border, immigration processing centers in southern San Diego County are strained, and migrants have waited for hours or sometimes days at makeshift camps to be taken into custody. The outdoor areas where migrants have been waiting lack shelter, food and sanitation, which has given way to an array of public health concerns for the most vulnerable. Unaccompanied children and young families sometimes arrive in poor health, according to aid workers and medical volunteers at the sites, suffering from traumatic injuries or chronic health conditions that require medications that have long since run out. Rest of article here: Judge Orders Timely Housing for Migrant Children Waiting at Border
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 4, 2024 12:46:51 GMT -5
what? we need to treat them like human beings?
who'da thunk?
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 4, 2024 15:03:12 GMT -5
what? we need to treat them like human beings? who'da thunk? Yea. No letting them be ripped to shreds by razor wire or drown. And no hitting them with canes as punishment.
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Apr 11, 2024 21:01:36 GMT -5
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 11, 2024 21:31:50 GMT -5
If only Congress could do something about what is going on at the border . I forgot, the Senate passed a bill, then Trump told House to kill it. Funny how you continue to complain about the border, when it mustn’t be a problem because Trump didn’t think we needed to pass the border bill, and house republicans would rather fight amongst themselves then actually do their job.
Rip, have you contacted your house rep to tell them that they should pass a bill to deal with the border?
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 12, 2024 10:09:07 GMT -5
Your party, Rip. Your party.
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Apr 12, 2024 12:38:41 GMT -5
Your party, Rip. Your party. That was a compressed sound bites from his speech. Bits and pieces put together. Lots of jump cuts.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 12, 2024 14:01:18 GMT -5
Your party, Rip. Your party. That was a compressed sound bites from his speech. Bits and pieces put together. Lots of jump cuts. You should be use to it and like it, since you think Fox News is a legitimate news source
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 12, 2024 14:12:15 GMT -5
why not just pass federal legislation? the GOP has the votes to do it. NOTE: NM and CA will never go along with this crap. and as far as i know, there are no border patrols between those states and yours.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 12, 2024 15:44:17 GMT -5
Your party, Rip. Your party. That was a compressed sound bites from his speech. Bits and pieces put together. Lots of jump cuts. Here's the same speech from Senator Lankford without your jump cuts which you seem to think what Lankford is saying may be fake. Ten minute video. Not sure if your attention span can last that long. But Lankford's comments are within the first four minutes. After you watch the video, there is a linked article regarding comments from trump. read the attached article. So back to it's your party, Rip. Your party and your leader. Trump throws cold water on border bill — again
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 14, 2024 11:56:42 GMT -5
Lankford is what i call a rational conservative legislator. he is not there to put on a show. he is there to govern. and why he is angry is that he DID HIS JOB. he brought the best bill possible to the floor of the Senate, and when MJ signaled it would not be brought to a vote in the house, it killed it.
this is 100% on Trump, just like the women dying from sepsis are on him.
the American Taliban are not deluded leftists like John Walker Linde. they are deluded MAGA Christian Nationalists.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 17, 2024 15:36:16 GMT -5
Senate dismisses two articles of impeachment against Homeland Security secretary, ending trialWASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate has dismissed all impeachment charges against Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, ending the House Republican push to remove the Cabinet secretary from office over his handling of the U.S.-Mexico border. The two votes effectively end the trial before arguments ever began. Senators voted separately to dismiss the two articles of impeachment, arguing that they were unconstitutional. The first article charged Mayorkas with “willful and systemic refusal to comply with the law.” The second article charged Mayorkas with a “breach of trust” for saying the border was secure. Republicans had argued for a full impeachment trial against Mayorkas. Rest of article here: Senate dismisses two articles of impeachment against Homeland Security secretary, ending trial
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 17, 2024 16:27:41 GMT -5
i don't like the administrations "defense" of this action. they said that this was a "policy difference".
what they SHOULD have said is that Mayorkis (sic) governed under exactly the same circumstances, with similar results, as Elaine Neilsen. so, there actually IS NO POLICY difference. when Elaine Neilsen did the same thing, they blithely ignored it, even though the policy was identical.
no, what this administration should have done is to point that out, and point out that this is the GOP pretending that they knew how to deal with this issue without passing legislation, when they didn't. when legislation to fix this was offered, they rejected it.
the Biden administration repeats GOP talking points far too often.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 17, 2024 17:29:17 GMT -5
Section. 4.
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. Mayorkas didn't engage in impeachable behavior. He was leading policies the House disapproved of him following.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 22, 2024 17:26:18 GMT -5
House Republicans blame Greene and Freedom Caucus for lack of border winsA growing number of House Republicans are accusing their conservative colleagues of enabling Democratic wins, especially after this weekend's foreign aid votes. Why it matters: Multiple members believe they could have gotten concessions from Democrats on border policy in exchange for Ukraine funding, only to be blown up by backlash from conservatives. GOP leadership brought up border security provisions alongside their foreign aid package — but the package was blocked by Republicans from reaching the House floor under normal rules. It ultimately failed to get the two-thirds majority needed to pass the House under suspension of the rules. "If you were a true conservative, you would actually advance border security, but what they want to do is they want to blow up border security," Rep. Andy Barr (R-Ky.) told Axios. "[T]he members who scream the loudest about border security were actively and knowingly preventing us from getting it done," another member said. "They're making us the most bipartisan Congress ever," a third member told Axios. "Because they are unwilling to compromise just a little bit in a divided government, they force us to make bigger concessions and deals with the Dems." The other side: Conservatives who advocate for blocking procedural motions argue it's necessary to light a fire under GOP leadership to demand more. Rest of article here: House Republicans blame Greene and Freedom Caucus for lack of border wins
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