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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 4, 2024 17:28:47 GMT -5
This will be changing in 2025 for US citizens. I am wondering what the EITAS is going to do, as it's essentially a visa that US citizens are going to need to apply for to visit any Schengen area. That's most of Europe and some additional countries. I noticed that when I saw your first post about EITAS. depending on flexibility on how I book things, if my layover is in Canada, it might not be an issue for me. just need to figure out that detail. ask me another day about clearing Customs in Munich awhile back, on a snazzy new Canadian passport that didn't have an intake stamp b/c neither Frankfurt (EU landing) nor Bologna (final destination) offered an intake stamp. How long ago was this? Considering our world cruise, most of the countries we were in did NOT leave any stamps in my passport. I had an exit stamp at Le Havre, France (despite having been in Turkey, Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal). We got no exit stamp from London either. On the last trip, we got an entry stamp in Amsterdam, and exit stamp for Tromso but again, no entry or exit stamp for UK.
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Post by chiver78 on Mar 4, 2024 18:41:15 GMT -5
I noticed that when I saw your first post about EITAS. depending on flexibility on how I book things, if my layover is in Canada, it might not be an issue for me. just need to figure out that detail. ask me another day about clearing Customs in Munich awhile back, on a snazzy new Canadian passport that didn't have an intake stamp b/c neither Frankfurt (EU landing) nor Bologna (final destination) offered an intake stamp. How long ago was this? Considering our world cruise, most of the countries we were in did NOT leave any stamps in my passport. I had an exit stamp at Le Havre, France (despite having been in Turkey, Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal). We got no exit stamp from London either. On the last trip, we got an entry stamp in Amsterdam, and exit stamp for Tromso but again, no entry or exit stamp for UK. this was awhile ago, def. I'll admit that. 2010, 2011? 🤷♀️ but the gist of this German Customs guy's questions were why the passport had zero stamps. and he didn't speak very good French or English, so I was sweating a bit.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 4, 2024 19:04:31 GMT -5
How long ago was this? Considering our world cruise, most of the countries we were in did NOT leave any stamps in my passport. I had an exit stamp at Le Havre, France (despite having been in Turkey, Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal). We got no exit stamp from London either. On the last trip, we got an entry stamp in Amsterdam, and exit stamp for Tromso but again, no entry or exit stamp for UK. this was awhile ago, def. I'll admit that. 2010, 2011? 🤷♀️ but the gist of this German Customs guy's questions were why the passport had zero stamps. and he didn't speak very good French or English, so I was sweating a bit. Were you traveling on both passports or only one? Border guys do scare the crap out of me. We were flying back from Turkey and he side eyed TD's passport. His passport took a turn through the washer, and while it was intact and very readable, it clearly had been washed. I was beginning to wonder if we'd get home (I think this was in Amsterdam). We had taken several trips on that passport without issue, but when he got home he still applied for a new one.
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this was awhile ago, def. I'll admit that. 2010, 2011? 🤷♀️ but the gist of this German Customs guy's questions were why the passport had zero stamps. and he didn't speak very good French or English, so I was sweating a bit. Were you traveling on both passports or only one? Border guys do scare the crap out of me. We were flying back from Turkey and he side eyed TD's passport. His passport took a turn through the washer, and while it was intact and very readable, it clearly had been washed. I was beginning to wonder if we'd get home (I think this was in Amsterdam). We had taken several trips on that passport without issue, but when he got home he still applied for a new one. that was the trip where I learned the nuances of booking travel. apparently that ticket was booked with a US passport as the qualifier, which I didn't realize. Customs guy was looking for that US passport, which wasn't what I had presented. and after that, I booked my own inter-EU travel, on my CA one.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 5, 2024 12:28:10 GMT -5
it may seem goofy and paranoid to some, and "anti-American" to others to be having this discussion, but i can assure you it is neither. if Trump is elected, this is no longer the America i signed up for. so, it is actually not anti-American to NOT want to be part of that. and to the first point, i am sort of naturally conservative, and always have a plan B. expatriating became a plan A many years ago for me. plan B has always been staying here in the US. but i am NOW looking at OTHER PLAN B's. there are some really good ones out there. probably the most cost effective one for most Americans would be Costa Rica, where the national healthcare system costs about $100/month for non-citizens. you read that right. you could have a live-in nurse for less than it costs you to go to the hospital a few times a year in the US. it is absurd to NOT consider it. You are not paranoid. I feel the same way. Trump and his ilk scare the crap out of me, and if he gets back into power, what he has hinted he will do should scare everyone. The Supreme Court make up has just marked paid to it too. They're not willing to rein him in and support the Constitution. I can't deny that we have not considered emigrating elsewhere. Many countries require you to put so much $$ into their country, and luckily we can. Costa Rica is just too flipping hot for us though. TD likes the warm weather to dive, but anything else? Forget about it. i hate hot weather. don't think of the COAST when you think of Costa Rica (despite it's name). think of the interior highlands. they are temperate year around. it is absolutely lovely. i am a climate FREAK. i would not tolerate ANYTHING too hot or too cold. the US is actually pretty bad on those terms as far as i am concerned. the ONLY part of the US that is of interest to me is Southern California, on the coast, and it is too damned expensive. climate is #1 or #2 on my list, and cost of housing is also #1 or #2 on my list. with those two variables, you can get a pretty short list of good candidates.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 5, 2024 12:29:44 GMT -5
Were you traveling on both passports or only one? Border guys do scare the crap out of me. We were flying back from Turkey and he side eyed TD's passport. His passport took a turn through the washer, and while it was intact and very readable, it clearly had been washed. I was beginning to wonder if we'd get home (I think this was in Amsterdam). We had taken several trips on that passport without issue, but when he got home he still applied for a new one. that was the trip where I learned the nuances of booking travel. apparently that ticket was booked with a US passport as the qualifier, which I didn't realize. Customs guy was looking for that US passport, which wasn't what I had presented. and after that, I booked my own inter-EU travel, on my CA one. i have read that most places are going to STOP stamping passports either this year or next. they are migrating to an electronic system.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 5, 2024 12:43:01 GMT -5
You are not paranoid. I feel the same way. Trump and his ilk scare the crap out of me, and if he gets back into power, what he has hinted he will do should scare everyone. The Supreme Court make up has just marked paid to it too. They're not willing to rein him in and support the Constitution. I can't deny that we have not considered emigrating elsewhere. Many countries require you to put so much $$ into their country, and luckily we can. Costa Rica is just too flipping hot for us though. TD likes the warm weather to dive, but anything else? Forget about it. i hate hot weather. don't think of the COAST when you think of Costa Rica (despite it's name). think of the interior highlands. they are temperate year around. it is absolutely lovely. i am a climate FREAK. i would not tolerate ANYTHING too hot or too cold. the US is actually pretty bad on those terms as far as i am concerned. the ONLY part of the US that is of interest to me is Southern California, on the coast, and it is too damned expensive. climate is #1 or #2 on my list, and cost of housing is also #1 or #2 on my list. with those two variables, you can get a pretty short list of good candidates. Being in the PNW, the weather's pretty damn perfect here. House is paid for, so for us the only issue is healthcare (and being in the US if Trump is reelected). Unfortunately, we realize that if we want better healthcare, we are going to need to move closer to Seattle. At this point, that would be about 10 years from now.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 5, 2024 12:48:50 GMT -5
that was the trip where I learned the nuances of booking travel. apparently that ticket was booked with a US passport as the qualifier, which I didn't realize. Customs guy was looking for that US passport, which wasn't what I had presented. and after that, I booked my own inter-EU travel, on my CA one. i have read that most places are going to STOP stamping passports either this year or next. they are migrating to an electronic system. I think it's in force in London right now. You put your passport through a scanner (not unlike the early Global Entry scanners) and if all is ok, the doors open. We did get a chance to experience the newest Global Entry into the US in MSP last month. Sooooo cool. No need to dig out passports, you just go up to a kiosk and stare at it. When you get a green check, proceed to exit where they give you a form. I wonder if that was what SEA was instituting in 2022 when we went through and all the kiosks were out of use? We had to wait in a very long line to get through customs/passport control. One of the times holding a Global Entry card didn't help much. This is going to screw me up. When I reapply for my NEXUS card, I have to list the countries I have been in on the application. I use my passport stamps to jog my memory.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 5, 2024 12:53:40 GMT -5
i hate hot weather. don't think of the COAST when you think of Costa Rica (despite it's name). think of the interior highlands. they are temperate year around. it is absolutely lovely. i am a climate FREAK. i would not tolerate ANYTHING too hot or too cold. the US is actually pretty bad on those terms as far as i am concerned. the ONLY part of the US that is of interest to me is Southern California, on the coast, and it is too damned expensive. climate is #1 or #2 on my list, and cost of housing is also #1 or #2 on my list. with those two variables, you can get a pretty short list of good candidates. Being in the PNW, the weather's pretty damn perfect here. House is paid for, so for us the only issue is healthcare (and being in the US if Trump is reelected). Unfortunately, we realize that if we want better healthcare, we are going to need to move closer to Seattle. At this point, that would be about 10 years from now. it's snowing there now, right? not a fan of snow. like i say, i am VERY picky about climate. the average daytime high in Monteverde in the Summer is 83F. the average daytime high in the Winter is 77F. the nighttime lows average in the high 50's, year around. you literally need no heating or AC there. it is truly lovely. there is no match for that weather anywhere in the US, imo.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 5, 2024 13:21:54 GMT -5
Being in the PNW, the weather's pretty damn perfect here. House is paid for, so for us the only issue is healthcare (and being in the US if Trump is reelected). Unfortunately, we realize that if we want better healthcare, we are going to need to move closer to Seattle. At this point, that would be about 10 years from now. it's snowing there now, right? not a fan of snow. like i say, i am VERY picky about climate. the average daytime high in Monteverde in the Summer is 83F. the average daytime high in the Winter is 77F. the nighttime lows average in the high 50's, year around. you literally need no heating or AC there. it is truly lovely. there is no match for that weather anywhere in the US, imo. Yeah, it snowed yesterday, cold today. If you are interested in another place, look at Uruguay. We were in Punta del Este and there are some fabulous places to live there. I'm actually thinking about renting a long term place down there during the winter some time.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 5, 2024 16:28:07 GMT -5
it's snowing there now, right? not a fan of snow. like i say, i am VERY picky about climate. the average daytime high in Monteverde in the Summer is 83F. the average daytime high in the Winter is 77F. the nighttime lows average in the high 50's, year around. you literally need no heating or AC there. it is truly lovely. there is no match for that weather anywhere in the US, imo. Yeah, it snowed yesterday, cold today. If you are interested in another place, look at Uruguay. We were in Punta del Este and there are some fabulous places to live there. I'm actually thinking about renting a long term place down there during the winter some time. Equador is also really good. but again, staying away from the coasts. the thing about CR that makes it "better" for me than both of those places is how connected it is to the US. there are direct, non-stop flights to twenty US cities. of course, if the US is NOT your plan B, then it does't really matter, does it?
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 7, 2024 11:30:26 GMT -5
I think I should learn Spanish.
I was wondering if I could get a 6 month tourist visa for a country and then return home for a week and get another 6 month visa for a different country. If I did this 8 times, I could try and miss Trump’s second presidency. If the US goes super crazy during that time, I will just stay somewhere illegally. Or something like that.
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Curious on thoughts about Biden using the term "illegal" during SOTU address.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 8, 2024 15:30:35 GMT -5
Curious on thoughts about Biden using the term "illegal" during SOTU address. I did not watch it last night. But I cringed when I heard Biden use the word in a news clip this morning.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 8, 2024 15:45:59 GMT -5
Unfortunate that he used the term. He did not use it with the same intention that many others do
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Curious on thoughts about Biden using the term "illegal" during SOTU address. At least Biden didn't call them rapists like trump did. June 16, 2015
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 9, 2024 10:46:08 GMT -5
Curious on thoughts about Biden using the term "illegal" during SOTU address. It did not go over well with the progressive pundits. I was trying to figure out if he thought it would land with independents who believe the Fox News interpretation of immigration. They would connect with that language. Meanwhile, anyone who is disgusted by the term would never, ever vote for Trump - so he didn’t think he would lose anyone?
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 9, 2024 16:54:05 GMT -5
Curious on thoughts about Biden using the term "illegal" during SOTU address. It did not go over well with the progressive pundits. I was trying to figure out if he thought it would land with independents who believe the Fox News interpretation of immigration. They would connect with that language. Meanwhile, anyone who is disgusted by the term would never, ever vote for Trump - so he didn’t think he would lose anyone? my impression is that he was speaking in a language that the haters understand. and i think that was a good move. progressives are going to forgive that language, imo.
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Looking for ripvanwinkle 's opinion on the article subject. This subject has bothered me for years. Major pearl clutching from Republicans when the murderer of little more than a handful of Americans is an undocumented immigrant but just thoughts and prayers and nothing else for the thousands of Americans murdered by other Americans. Laken Riley's murder is national news and Preston Lord's killing isn't. Why?You may not want to admit it, but you know why the murder of 16-year-old Arizona high school student Preston Lord is not a national story, as is the murder in Georgia of 22-year-old nursing student Laken Riley. It is not because of who the victim was. No. It is because of who is accused of the killing. The seven young men arrested last week in connection with Lord’s death are from the suburbs. They grew up in American neighborhoods, going to American schools in communities that pride themselves with extolling American values. The man accused of murdering Riley last month is an undocumented Venezuelan migrant. That one thing makes all the difference these days. At least to some people. We are not talking about values, or justice, but about politics As if the murder of an American is worse because it was committed by someone who is not a citizen. When, if you think about it, the opposite should be true. It should be worse that someone who grew up here, with all we have to offer and all the opportunities that exist for an American, would take someone’s life. But we are not talking about actual values, or justice, are we? We’re talking about politics. And in that grotesquely crass arena the life of one young murdered American can be made to seem more valuable than the life of another young murdered American. Is there anything worse than that? Migrants are less likely to commit crimes than Americans are The homicide rate in the United States has fallen nearly 13% in the past year, but there still were close to 19,000 killings. I’d guess that the families of each and every one of those who were lost feel the same anguish as the families of Preston Lord and Laken Riley. Rep. Mike Collins, R-Ga., invited Riley’s parents to the State of the Union address last week “to honor Laken and all American victims of illegal alien crime.” Her mourning parents declined the offer. The terrible way that politics victimizes victims Like all Republicans, the congressman was simply mimicking Donald Trump, who said recently, “In New York, what’s happening with crime is it’s through the roof, and it’s called ‘migrant.’ Actual studies done on the subject, both nationally and in big cities, consistently show that is not true. They show that migrants are far less likely to commit crimes or be convicted of acts of violence than native-born Americans. This does not matter to Trump, however, so it doesn’t matter to the Republicans under his thumb. Riley’s death is less a tragedy to MAGA politicians than it is an opportunity. A way to score political points. Laken Riley, Preston Lord and the thousands of others killed last year were victims. Unlike most of the others, however, she is being victimized again. Laken Riley's murder is national news and Preston Lord's killing isn't. Why?
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Article dated April 26, 2023. What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.How many people die from gun-related injuries in the U.S. each year?In 2021, the most recent year for which complete data is available, 48,830 people died from gun-related injuries in the U.S., according to the CDC. That figure includes gun murders and gun suicides, along with three less common types of gun-related deaths tracked by the CDC: those that were accidental, those that involved law enforcement and those whose circumstances could not be determined. The total excludes deaths in which gunshot injuries played a contributing, but not principal, role. (CDC fatality statistics are based on information contained in official death certificates, which identify a single cause of death.) What share of U.S. gun deaths are murders and what share are suicides?Though they tend to get less public attention than gun-related murders, suicides have long accounted for the majority of U.S. gun deaths. In 2021, 54% of all gun-related deaths in the U.S. were suicides (26,328), while 43% were murders (20,958), according to the CDC. The remaining gun deaths that year were accidental (549), involved law enforcement (537) or had undetermined circumstances (458). What share of all murders and suicides in the U.S. involve a gun?About eight-in-ten U.S. murders in 2021 – 20,958 out of 26,031, or 81% – involved a firearm. That marked the highest percentage since at least 1968, the earliest year for which the CDC has online records. More than half of all suicides in 2021 – 26,328 out of 48,183, or 55% – also involved a gun, the highest percentage since 2001. Pew Research: What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.
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Looking for ripvanwinkle 's opinion on the article subject. This subject has bothered me for years. Major pearl clutching from Republicans when the murderer of little more than a handful of Americans is an undocumented immigrant but just thoughts and prayers and nothing else for the thousands of Americans murdered by other Americans. Laken Riley's murder is national news and Preston Lord's killing isn't. Why?You may not want to admit it, but you know why the murder of 16-year-old Arizona high school student Preston Lord is not a national story, as is the murder in Georgia of 22-year-old nursing student Laken Riley. It is not because of who the victim was. No. It is because of who is accused of the killing. The seven young men arrested last week in connection with Lord’s death are from the suburbs. They grew up in American neighborhoods, going to American schools in communities that pride themselves with extolling American values. The man accused of murdering Riley last month is an undocumented Venezuelan migrant. That one thing makes all the difference these days. At least to some people. We are not talking about values, or justice, but about politics As if the murder of an American is worse because it was committed by someone who is not a citizen. When, if you think about it, the opposite should be true. It should be worse that someone who grew up here, with all we have to offer and all the opportunities that exist for an American, would take someone’s life. But we are not talking about actual values, or justice, are we? We’re talking about politics. And in that grotesquely crass arena the life of one young murdered American can be made to seem more valuable than the life of another young murdered American. Is there anything worse than that? Migrants are less likely to commit crimes than Americans are The homicide rate in the United States has fallen nearly 13% in the past year, but there still were close to 19,000 killings. I’d guess that the families of each and every one of those who were lost feel the same anguish as the families of Preston Lord and Laken Riley. Rep. Mike Collins, R-Ga., invited Riley’s parents to the State of the Union address last week “to honor Laken and all American victims of illegal alien crime.” Her mourning parents declined the offer. The terrible way that politics victimizes victims Like all Republicans, the congressman was simply mimicking Donald Trump, who said recently, “In New York, what’s happening with crime is it’s through the roof, and it’s called ‘migrant.’ Actual studies done on the subject, both nationally and in big cities, consistently show that is not true. They show that migrants are far less likely to commit crimes or be convicted of acts of violence than native-born Americans. This does not matter to Trump, however, so it doesn’t matter to the Republicans under his thumb. Riley’s death is less a tragedy to MAGA politicians than it is an opportunity. A way to score political points. Laken Riley, Preston Lord and the thousands of others killed last year were victims. Unlike most of the others, however, she is being victimized again. Laken Riley's murder is national news and Preston Lord's killing isn't. Why?As I expected no opinion from ripvanwinkle. He signed in last evening and signed in this evening. But no opinion(s) offered because it is all political with rip. The hell with the victims of murder I guess. I don't know if anyone else here has had a family membered murdered. I have. My great-aunt, my dad's maternal aunt was murdered in the early '70s. I heard the news about my great-aunt's murder on local radio. I told my dad who then told his mom, my great-aunt's sister. We all lived in the same city. My great-aunt made the mistake of letting someone into her home she very casual knew. Unbeknownst to her, the person's intent was to rob her. Also his intent was that there be no witnesses. The man clubbed her over her head and back using her dining room chairs as his weapon. Once she was down, he placed her over some of the broken wood from the chairs and set her and the wood on fire. My great-aunt roasted to near death within her home. A neighbor noticed a fire in my great-aunt's home and called the fire department. My great-aunt was barely alive when they rescued her and died shortly after arriving at the hospital. The man who murdered my great-aunt was an American citizen.
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Looking for ripvanwinkle 's opinion on the article subject. This subject has bothered me for years. Major pearl clutching from Republicans when the murderer of little more than a handful of Americans is an undocumented immigrant but just thoughts and prayers and nothing else for the thousands of Americans murdered by other Americans. Laken Riley's murder is national news and Preston Lord's killing isn't. Why?You may not want to admit it, but you know why the murder of 16-year-old Arizona high school student Preston Lord is not a national story, as is the murder in Georgia of 22-year-old nursing student Laken Riley. It is not because of who the victim was. No. It is because of who is accused of the killing. The seven young men arrested last week in connection with Lord’s death are from the suburbs. They grew up in American neighborhoods, going to American schools in communities that pride themselves with extolling American values. The man accused of murdering Riley last month is an undocumented Venezuelan migrant. That one thing makes all the difference these days. At least to some people. We are not talking about values, or justice, but about politics As if the murder of an American is worse because it was committed by someone who is not a citizen. When, if you think about it, the opposite should be true. It should be worse that someone who grew up here, with all we have to offer and all the opportunities that exist for an American, would take someone’s life. But we are not talking about actual values, or justice, are we? We’re talking about politics. And in that grotesquely crass arena the life of one young murdered American can be made to seem more valuable than the life of another young murdered American. Is there anything worse than that? Migrants are less likely to commit crimes than Americans are The homicide rate in the United States has fallen nearly 13% in the past year, but there still were close to 19,000 killings. I’d guess that the families of each and every one of those who were lost feel the same anguish as the families of Preston Lord and Laken Riley. Rep. Mike Collins, R-Ga., invited Riley’s parents to the State of the Union address last week “to honor Laken and all American victims of illegal alien crime.” Her mourning parents declined the offer. The terrible way that politics victimizes victims Like all Republicans, the congressman was simply mimicking Donald Trump, who said recently, “In New York, what’s happening with crime is it’s through the roof, and it’s called ‘migrant.’ Actual studies done on the subject, both nationally and in big cities, consistently show that is not true. They show that migrants are far less likely to commit crimes or be convicted of acts of violence than native-born Americans. This does not matter to Trump, however, so it doesn’t matter to the Republicans under his thumb. Riley’s death is less a tragedy to MAGA politicians than it is an opportunity. A way to score political points. Laken Riley, Preston Lord and the thousands of others killed last year were victims. Unlike most of the others, however, she is being victimized again. Laken Riley's murder is national news and Preston Lord's killing isn't. Why?As I expected no opinion from ripvanwinkle . He signed in last evening and signed in this evening. But no opinion(s) offered because it is all political with rip. The hell with the victims of murder I guess. I don't know if anyone else here has had a family membered murdered. I have. My great-aunt, my dad's maternal aunt was murdered in the early '70s. I heard the news about my great-aunt's murder on local radio. I told my dad who then told his mom, my great-aunt's sister. We all lived in the same city. My great-aunt made the mistake of letting someone into her home she very casual knew. Unbeknownst to her, the person's intent was to rob her. Also his intent was that there be no witnesses. The man clubbed her over her head and back using her dining room chairs as his weapon. Once she was down, he placed her over some of the broken wood from the chairs and set her and the wood on fire. My great-aunt roasted to near death within her home. A neighbor noticed a fire in my great-aunt's home and called the fire department. My great-aunt was barely alive when they rescued her and died shortly after arriving at the hospital. The man who murdered my great-aunt was an American citizen. Okay, my opinion is if the govt had done their job this wouldn't have happened. Laken Riley is dead because he was not deported or incarcerated. This will continue to happen until the border is closed and only let 100% vetted people in. Not vetted, sorry you can't come in. Don't have papers, sorry. And yes, people have been killed by american citizens of every race. It's been that way since the pilgrims landed. It is a fact of life. No matter what. I also have been a victim of crime. In 1988 woman I was dating was murdered. Stabbed to death. She was robbed after getting out of her car on her way to her night job.
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Post by Opti on Mar 15, 2024 6:04:25 GMT -5
I agree this guy should have been deported at the first serious incident. I disagree with the belief that there is a criminal history to find on all who come here and later commit crimes in this country. I think that's wishful thinking.
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Post by scgal on Mar 15, 2024 8:48:43 GMT -5
Murder is tragic under all circumstances but when an illegal does it, it is 1,000,000 times worse. Not all murders are the same thou. A person being murdered by a citizen is not the same as by an illegal. All and I mean all border crossings need to come to a halt until a fully vetting process can be done. If that means only 100 per year then so be it.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 15, 2024 9:00:20 GMT -5
Murder is tragic under all circumstances but when an illegal does it, it is 1,000,000 times worse. Not all murders are the same thou. A person being murdered by a citizen is not the same as by an illegal. All and I mean all border crossings need to come to a halt until a fully vetting process can be done. If that means only 100 per year then so be it. Easy to type, impossible to achieve.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 15, 2024 9:18:39 GMT -5
Murder is tragic under all circumstances but when an illegal does it, it is 1,000,000 times worse. Not all murders are the same thou. A person being murdered by a citizen is not the same as by an illegal. All and I mean all border crossings need to come to a halt until a fully vetting process can be done. If that means only 100 per year then so be it. Ergo, murder of U.S. citizens by U.S. citizens really don't matter to you. Got it. The murdered victim is still dead no matter who murdered them. Finally, you continue to make the point of the article author in reply #770.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 15, 2024 9:24:46 GMT -5
As I expected no opinion from ripvanwinkle . He signed in last evening and signed in this evening. But no opinion(s) offered because it is all political with rip. The hell with the victims of murder I guess. I don't know if anyone else here has had a family membered murdered. I have. My great-aunt, my dad's maternal aunt was murdered in the early '70s. I heard the news about my great-aunt's murder on local radio. I told my dad who then told his mom, my great-aunt's sister. We all lived in the same city. My great-aunt made the mistake of letting someone into her home she very casual knew. Unbeknownst to her, the person's intent was to rob her. Also his intent was that there be no witnesses. The man clubbed her over her head and back using her dining room chairs as his weapon. Once she was down, he placed her over some of the broken wood from the chairs and set her and the wood on fire. My great-aunt roasted to near death within her home. A neighbor noticed a fire in my great-aunt's home and called the fire department. My great-aunt was barely alive when they rescued her and died shortly after arriving at the hospital. The man who murdered my great-aunt was an American citizen. Okay, my opinion is if the govt had done their job this wouldn't have happened. Laken Riley is dead because he was not deported or incarcerated. This will continue to happen until the border is closed and only let 100% vetted people in. Not vetted, sorry you can't come in. Don't have papers, sorry. And yes, people have been killed by american citizens of every race. It's been that way since the pilgrims landed. It is a fact of life. No matter what. I also have been a victim of crime. In 1988 woman I was dating was murdered. Stabbed to death. She was robbed after getting out of her car on her way to her night job.
So you are okay with doing nothing to stop it. Got it. Heard you loud and clear. Also, you have not been a victim of a crime. A woman you were dating was. You were not murdered.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 15, 2024 9:49:47 GMT -5
Murder is tragic under all circumstances but when an illegal does it, it is 1,000,000 times worse. Not all murders are the same thou. A person being murdered by a citizen is not the same as by an illegal. All and I mean all border crossings need to come to a halt until a fully vetting process can be done. If that means only 100 per year then so be it. So an "illegal" who kills one citizen is worse than a citizen killing 20 5 and 6 year olds with a legal gun. Quite twisted logic. Should have stopped after your first 6 words. You would have looked like a compassionate human being if you did. ETA: You apparently agree with Stalin. One death is tragic. A million is a statistic
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