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Post by thyme4change on Mar 15, 2024 10:08:08 GMT -5
So - no temporary visas and no tourism from anywhere - including Europe. All international students are banned from returning.
I think that will put a few million people out of work.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 15, 2024 10:10:46 GMT -5
So - no temporary visas and no tourism from anywhere - including Europe. All international students are banned from returning. I think that will put a few million people out of work. Well, it will keep out those undesirable Canadians if we shut all the borders down. May have a big effect on the economy on both sides of the border. But I doubt that is the border she meant.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 15, 2024 10:16:58 GMT -5
So - no temporary visas and no tourism from anywhere - including Europe. All international students are banned from returning. I think that will put a few million people out of work. Well, it will keep out those undesirable Canadians if we shut all the borders down. May have a big effect on the economy on both sides of the border. But I doubt that is the border she meant. All border crossing are all border crossings. Technically, we should also shut down all international travel of citizens too. Can’t risk someone sneaking in on a bogus passport. Now we are a country that won’t let anyone leave - like North Korea. Land of the free - home of the imprisoned.
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Post by teen persuasion on Mar 15, 2024 11:34:25 GMT -5
So - no temporary visas and no tourism from anywhere - including Europe. All international students are banned from returning. I think that will put a few million people out of work. And if you thought supply chain issues were bad, imagine with zero border crossing allowed!
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Post by scgal on Mar 15, 2024 12:30:45 GMT -5
Murder is tragic under all circumstances but when an illegal does it, it is 1,000,000 times worse. Not all murders are the same thou. A person being murdered by a citizen is not the same as by an illegal. All and I mean all border crossings need to come to a halt until a fully vetting process can be done. If that means only 100 per year then so be it. Ergo, murder of U.S. citizens by U.S. citizens really don't matter to you. Got it. The murdered victim is still dead no matter who murdered them. Finally, you continue to make the point of the article author in reply #770. ok let me say as I alrready did it is bad somebody dies at the hand of another. I am very pro usa that means we do come first everyone else is second. So if an illegal kills a citizen I'm very ok with a death penalty for them with no appeals convicted dead in 30 days so we don't have to waste resources taking care of them.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 15, 2024 13:21:14 GMT -5
As I expected no opinion from ripvanwinkle . He signed in last evening and signed in this evening. But no opinion(s) offered because it is all political with rip. The hell with the victims of murder I guess. I don't know if anyone else here has had a family membered murdered. I have. My great-aunt, my dad's maternal aunt was murdered in the early '70s. I heard the news about my great-aunt's murder on local radio. I told my dad who then told his mom, my great-aunt's sister. We all lived in the same city. My great-aunt made the mistake of letting someone into her home she very casual knew. Unbeknownst to her, the person's intent was to rob her. Also his intent was that there be no witnesses. The man clubbed her over her head and back using her dining room chairs as his weapon. Once she was down, he placed her over some of the broken wood from the chairs and set her and the wood on fire. My great-aunt roasted to near death within her home. A neighbor noticed a fire in my great-aunt's home and called the fire department. My great-aunt was barely alive when they rescued her and died shortly after arriving at the hospital. The man who murdered my great-aunt was an American citizen. Okay, my opinion is if the govt had done their job this wouldn't have happened. Laken Riley is dead because he was not deported or incarcerated. This will continue to happen until the border is closed and only let 100% vetted people in. Not vetted, sorry you can't come in. Don't have papers, sorry. And yes, people have been killed by american citizens of every race. It's been that way since the pilgrims landed. It is a fact of life. No matter what. I also have been a victim of crime. In 1988 woman I was dating was murdered. Stabbed to death. She was robbed after getting out of her car on her way to her night job.
i asked you earlier to explain what the vetting procedure would be. is it not sufficient to do a background check and verify ID? i am not sure what your point was about American Citizens. should we deport American Citizens? after all, their crime rate is higher than immigrants.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 15, 2024 13:29:07 GMT -5
Murder is tragic under all circumstances but when an illegal does it, it is 1,000,000 times worse. Not all murders are the same thou. A person being murdered by a citizen is not the same as by an illegal. All and I mean all border crossings need to come to a halt until a fully vetting process can be done. If that means only 100 per year then so be it. really? so it is worse for an "illegal" to murder someone than a serial killer? it is worse for an "illegal" to murder than a person to commit genocide? it is worse for an "illegal" to murder than for an ex-con to murder again? it is worse for an "illegal" to murder than any other non-citizen? i think you have lost your sense of proportion, scgal.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 15, 2024 13:31:19 GMT -5
Ergo, murder of U.S. citizens by U.S. citizens really don't matter to you. Got it. The murdered victim is still dead no matter who murdered them. Finally, you continue to make the point of the article author in reply #770. ok let me say as I alrready did it is bad somebody dies at the hand of another. I am very pro usa that means we do come first everyone else is second. So if an illegal kills a citizen I'm very ok with a death penalty for them with no appeals convicted dead in 30 days so we don't have to waste resources taking care of them. "no appeals" is not a thing in the US, so you being "OK" with it is irrelevant.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 15, 2024 13:33:36 GMT -5
So - no temporary visas and no tourism from anywhere - including Europe. All international students are banned from returning. I think that will put a few million people out of work. we already have a worker shortage in some areas. this would drive that through the roof. these unworkable ideas will cause every American economic pain. lots of it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 15, 2024 14:24:35 GMT -5
As I expected no opinion from ripvanwinkle . He signed in last evening and signed in this evening. But no opinion(s) offered because it is all political with rip. The hell with the victims of murder I guess. I don't know if anyone else here has had a family membered murdered. I have. My great-aunt, my dad's maternal aunt was murdered in the early '70s. I heard the news about my great-aunt's murder on local radio. I told my dad who then told his mom, my great-aunt's sister. We all lived in the same city. My great-aunt made the mistake of letting someone into her home she very casual knew. Unbeknownst to her, the person's intent was to rob her. Also his intent was that there be no witnesses. The man clubbed her over her head and back using her dining room chairs as his weapon. Once she was down, he placed her over some of the broken wood from the chairs and set her and the wood on fire. My great-aunt roasted to near death within her home. A neighbor noticed a fire in my great-aunt's home and called the fire department. My great-aunt was barely alive when they rescued her and died shortly after arriving at the hospital. The man who murdered my great-aunt was an American citizen. Okay, my opinion is if the govt had done their job this wouldn't have happened. Laken Riley is dead because he was not deported or incarcerated. This will continue to happen until the border is closed and only let 100% vetted people in. Not vetted, sorry you can't come in. Don't have papers, sorry. And yes, people have been killed by american citizens of every race. It's been that way since the pilgrims landed. It is a fact of life. No matter what. I also have been a victim of crime. In 1988 woman I was dating was murdered. Stabbed to death. She was robbed after getting out of her car on her way to her night job.
One last thing, Rip. The government has tried to do their job. In January, and at the order of donald trump, Congressional republicans shot down a border bill developed by a bipartisan Senate committee. The bill would have given what the border patrol has been wanting for years to help them curb border crossings. trump offered nothing, absolutely nothing, to replace what he told republican members of congress to kill. So if any more Americans are murdered by people not legally eligible to be in the U.S., then the murders fall on trump, republicans in congress and you.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 15, 2024 14:31:19 GMT -5
Ergo, murder of U.S. citizens by U.S. citizens really don't matter to you. Got it. The murdered victim is still dead no matter who murdered them. Finally, you continue to make the point of the article author in reply #770. ok let me say as I alrready did it is bad somebody dies at the hand of another. I am very pro usa that means we do come first everyone else is second. So if an illegal kills a citizen I'm very ok with a death penalty for them with no appeals convicted dead in 30 days so we don't have to waste resources taking care of them. I am pro-death penalty for the most heinous of crimes. Am I anti-American if I believe everyone given a death penalty has a right to appeal their sentence? Yes, appeals take time. But everyone, regardless of the country of origin, given a death penaly in the United States should be allowed to appeal.
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Post by andi9899 on Mar 15, 2024 14:42:08 GMT -5
I think I should learn Spanish. I was wondering if I could get a 6 month tourist visa for a country and then return home for a week and get another 6 month visa for a different country. If I did this 8 times, I could try and miss Trump’s second presidency. If the US goes super crazy during that time, I will just stay somewhere illegally. Or something like that. He's not going to be president again. I'm willing to bet money on it.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 15, 2024 18:10:49 GMT -5
I think I should learn Spanish. I was wondering if I could get a 6 month tourist visa for a country and then return home for a week and get another 6 month visa for a different country. If I did this 8 times, I could try and miss Trump’s second presidency. If the US goes super crazy during that time, I will just stay somewhere illegally. Or something like that. He's not going to be president again. I'm willing to bet money on it. I thought that last time. I am not going to send that message anywhere to anyone. A lot of people didn’t vote for Hillary to prove a point, because they thought she was a safe win. That is also how Brexit happened. So, he won’t be president if people show up and vote for Biden - otherwise, who the hell knows.
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Post by busymom on Mar 15, 2024 18:47:19 GMT -5
I think I should learn Spanish. I was wondering if I could get a 6 month tourist visa for a country and then return home for a week and get another 6 month visa for a different country. If I did this 8 times, I could try and miss Trump’s second presidency. If the US goes super crazy during that time, I will just stay somewhere illegally. Or something like that. He's not going to be president again. I'm willing to bet money on it. After 2016, I'm not taking any bets. I'm just disappointed about how many voters didn't learn their lesson from the last time he was in office. He is the PT Barnum of politics.
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Mar 15, 2024 23:55:56 GMT -5
Okay, my opinion is if the govt had done their job this wouldn't have happened. Laken Riley is dead because he was not deported or incarcerated. This will continue to happen until the border is closed and only let 100% vetted people in. Not vetted, sorry you can't come in. Don't have papers, sorry. And yes, people have been killed by american citizens of every race. It's been that way since the pilgrims landed. It is a fact of life. No matter what. I also have been a victim of crime. In 1988 woman I was dating was murdered. Stabbed to death. She was robbed after getting out of her car on her way to her night job.
One last thing, Rip. The government has tried to do their job. In January, and at the order of donald trump, Congressional republicans shot down a border bill developed by a bipartisan Senate committee. The bill would have given what the border patrol has been wanting for years to help them curb border crossings. trump offered nothing, absolutely nothing, to replace what he told republican members of congress to kill. So if any more Americans are murdered by people not legally eligible to be in the U.S., then the murders fall on trump, republicans in congress and you. If the Dems had conceded a little more like reducing the number of illegals let in from 5000 per day to maybe 500 per day they might have had a deal. I'd like to see 100 per day. Reduce the amount of money to Ukraine. And do we really have any real evidence that Trump said to kill the bill? Texts etc? Has anyone come forward to verify this?
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 16, 2024 6:29:07 GMT -5
One last thing, Rip. The government has tried to do their job. In January, and at the order of donald trump, Congressional republicans shot down a border bill developed by a bipartisan Senate committee. The bill would have given what the border patrol has been wanting for years to help them curb border crossings. trump offered nothing, absolutely nothing, to replace what he told republican members of congress to kill. So if any more Americans are murdered by people not legally eligible to be in the U.S., then the murders fall on trump, republicans in congress and you. If the Dems had conceded a little more like reducing the number of illegals let in from 5000 per day to maybe 500 per day they might have had a deal. I'd like to see 100 per day. Reduce the amount of money to Ukraine. And do we really have any real evidence that Trump said to kill the bill? Texts etc? Has anyone come forward to verify this? Well - he did say he didn’t want the bill in a public speech in Vegas. No one is denying that. a) The bill had everything the republicans said they wanted, just not quite the levels they wanted. Every mechanism was there. It gave republicans 80% of what they asked for. That is a pretty good deal for them. b) If they truly want to solve the problem, why not take this and then when Trump wins, they can put through another bill that changes the numbers to be more like the ones he wanted. If Republicans don’t take the whole trio in November they won’t get a better deal. This was a golden opportunity and they showed their hand - they don’t want to solve it, they want to use it to campaign.
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Post by tbop77 on Mar 16, 2024 7:59:30 GMT -5
One last thing, Rip. The government has tried to do their job. In January, and at the order of donald trump, Congressional republicans shot down a border bill developed by a bipartisan Senate committee. The bill would have given what the border patrol has been wanting for years to help them curb border crossings. trump offered nothing, absolutely nothing, to replace what he told republican members of congress to kill. So if any more Americans are murdered by people not legally eligible to be in the U.S., then the murders fall on trump, republicans in congress and you. If the Dems had conceded a little more like reducing the number of illegals let in from 5000 per day to maybe 500 per day they might have had a deal. I'd like to see 100 per day. Reduce the amount of money to Ukraine. And do we really have any real evidence that Trump said to kill the bill? Texts etc? Has anyone come forward to verify this? Yes, there is plenty of evidence that Trump killed the bill they worked so hard on. It wouldn't have mattered what was in the bill, he's that petty and Republicans are that stupid to follow him. Sure, let Trump's good buddy take over Ukraine. Am sure you'll be happy when Trump is elected and hands over Europe to him too.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 16, 2024 8:32:02 GMT -5
One last thing, Rip. The government has tried to do their job. In January, and at the order of donald trump, Congressional republicans shot down a border bill developed by a bipartisan Senate committee. The bill would have given what the border patrol has been wanting for years to help them curb border crossings. trump offered nothing, absolutely nothing, to replace what he told republican members of congress to kill. So if any more Americans are murdered by people not legally eligible to be in the U.S., then the murders fall on trump, republicans in congress and you. If the Dems had conceded a little more like reducing the number of illegals let in from 5000 per day to maybe 500 per day they might have had a deal. I'd like to see 100 per day. Reduce the amount of money to Ukraine. And do we really have any real evidence that Trump said to kill the bill? Texts etc? Has anyone come forward to verify this? Sorry, Rip. Had the republicans in congress conceded a little bit and increased the number let in and border patrol screened them with the new budget money allocated inthe bill, there might have been a deal. Your leader trump told republicans in congress to kill the bill and as usual offered nothing to replace it. So at the time of the bill kill that left at least 11 plus months of the open boarder you complain about. So you are responsible for the current open border and any harm to U.S. residents if a crime is committed against them by someone who crossed the border without proper and enhanced screening (via passage in the House and Senate of the bipartisan Senate committee bill). You own it now, Rip.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 16, 2024 8:37:37 GMT -5
If the Dems had conceded a little more like reducing the number of illegals let in from 5000 per day to maybe 500 per day they might have had a deal. I'd like to see 100 per day. Reduce the amount of money to Ukraine. And do we really have any real evidence that Trump said to kill the bill? Texts etc? Has anyone come forward to verify this? Yes, there is plenty of evidence that Trump killed the bill they worked so hard on. It wouldn't have mattered what was in the bill, he's that petty and Republicans are that stupid to follow him. Sure, let Trump's good buddy take over Ukraine. Am sure you'll be happy when Trump is elected and hands over Europe to him too. Rip ony gets get his news from trump's Truth Social site. And we all know about trump and the truth.
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Post by tbop77 on Mar 16, 2024 9:06:29 GMT -5
Yes, there is plenty of evidence that Trump killed the bill they worked so hard on. It wouldn't have mattered what was in the bill, he's that petty and Republicans are that stupid to follow him. Sure, let Trump's good buddy take over Ukraine. Am sure you'll be happy when Trump is elected and hands over Europe to him too. Rip ony gets get his news from trump's Truth Social site. And we all know about trump and the truth. Sometimes it just gets so old these people turn a blind eye to Trump, I can't help myself. How stupid can you be to ask for evidence that he killed that bill? Even Senator Lankford agreed with President during the SOTU speech mouthing the words "that's true."
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Post by busymom on Mar 16, 2024 11:01:16 GMT -5
Yes, there is plenty of evidence that Trump killed the bill they worked so hard on. It wouldn't have mattered what was in the bill, he's that petty and Republicans are that stupid to follow him. Sure, let Trump's good buddy take over Ukraine. Am sure you'll be happy when Trump is elected and hands over Europe to him too. Rip ony gets get his news from trump's Truth Social site. And we all know about trump and the truth. If the words "Trump" and "truth" on together on a piece of paper, it catches fire. Just so you know. That's what happens when you sell your soul.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 16, 2024 15:11:44 GMT -5
ok let me say as I alrready did it is bad somebody dies at the hand of another. I am very pro usa that means we do come first everyone else is second. So if an illegal kills a citizen I'm very ok with a death penalty for them with no appeals convicted dead in 30 days so we don't have to waste resources taking care of them. I am pro-death penalty for the most heinous of crimes. Am I anti-American if I believe everyone given a death penalty has a right to appeal their sentence? Yes, appeals take time. But everyone, regardless of the country of origin, given a death penaly in the United States should be allowed to appeal. if there is anyone who is an abuser of the appeals process, it is Trump. do i think he should be denied appeal? no. do i hate it? yes. would i defend it to my dying breath? yes.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 16, 2024 15:12:55 GMT -5
Yes, there is plenty of evidence that Trump killed the bill they worked so hard on. It wouldn't have mattered what was in the bill, he's that petty and Republicans are that stupid to follow him. Sure, let Trump's good buddy take over Ukraine. Am sure you'll be happy when Trump is elected and hands over Europe to him too. Rip ony gets get his news from trump's Truth Social site. And we all know about trump and the truth. i very seriously doubt he has subscribed to that site. i picture rip as spending more money on ammo and bait than social media.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 16, 2024 15:16:11 GMT -5
One last thing, Rip. The government has tried to do their job. In January, and at the order of donald trump, Congressional republicans shot down a border bill developed by a bipartisan Senate committee. The bill would have given what the border patrol has been wanting for years to help them curb border crossings. trump offered nothing, absolutely nothing, to replace what he told republican members of congress to kill. So if any more Americans are murdered by people not legally eligible to be in the U.S., then the murders fall on trump, republicans in congress and you. If the Dems had conceded a little more like reducing the number of illegals let in from 5000 per day to maybe 500 per day they might have had a deal. I'd like to see 100 per day. Reduce the amount of money to Ukraine. And do we really have any real evidence that Trump said to kill the bill? Texts etc? Has anyone come forward to verify this? you are aware, of course, that until Trump invoked Title42, that he was letting 5000 people per day through the border, right? i don't remember you being concerned when he was doing that 5 years ago.
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Mar 16, 2024 15:37:48 GMT -5
Yes, there is plenty of evidence that Trump killed the bill they worked so hard on. It wouldn't have mattered what was in the bill, he's that petty and Republicans are that stupid to follow him. Sure, let Trump's good buddy take over Ukraine. Am sure you'll be happy when Trump is elected and hands over Europe to him too. Rip ony gets get his news from trump's Truth Social site. And we all know about trump and the truth. I've never looked at the Truth Social site. I get all my news from legacy media free sites and cable news sites. No pay wall news. Everybody is biased one way or another. Even the fact checker sites.
And it's going to get worse now that we have AI.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 16, 2024 15:41:28 GMT -5
Rip ony gets get his news from trump's Truth Social site. And we all know about trump and the truth. I've never looked at the Truth Social site. I get all my news from legacy media free sites and cable news sites. No pay wall news. Everybody is biased one way or another. Even the fact checker sites.
And it's going to get worse now that we have AI.
won't get worse for me. i fact check everything. have been doing that for years. and sure. i get it wrong, sometimes. but it is not even an annual occurrence at this point. we can agree on one thing though: EVERYONE needs to be more vigilant, now.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 16, 2024 15:46:31 GMT -5
One last thing, Rip. The government has tried to do their job. In January, and at the order of donald trump, Congressional republicans shot down a border bill developed by a bipartisan Senate committee. The bill would have given what the border patrol has been wanting for years to help them curb border crossings. trump offered nothing, absolutely nothing, to replace what he told republican members of congress to kill. So if any more Americans are murdered by people not legally eligible to be in the U.S., then the murders fall on trump, republicans in congress and you. If the Dems had conceded a little more like reducing the number of illegals let in from 5000 per day to maybe 500 per day they might have had a deal. I'd like to see 100 per day. Reduce the amount of money to Ukraine. And do we really have any real evidence that Trump said to kill the bill? Texts etc? Has anyone come forward to verify this? One last thing, Rip about your comment of reducing the amount of money to Ukraine. We can help Ukraine by financing their defense against Russia's attempt of taking over the country. Or we can finance Ukraine with tokens amounts of money and Russia will take over Ukraine. Once Russia takes over Ukraine it will most likely start going after the Baltic States which were once part of the Soviet Union. All three countries of which comprise the Baltic States are current members of NATO. By treaty through NATO, the United States as well with the rest of the NATO nations, will get dragged into a war with Russia. Not sure you really are aware of what war costs. The direct cost of World War II, in current U.S. dollars, was $4.1 trillion. And the Vietnam war, a much smaller geographical war, cost the U.S. $738 billion in current dollars. War Debt: America’s Cost of Going to WarYou appear to only be looking at dollars (and the hell with the deaths of Ukrainian citizens I guess). Well war costs many dollars and lives.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 18, 2024 3:46:26 GMT -5
If the Dems had conceded a little more like reducing the number of illegals let in from 5000 per day to maybe 500 per day they might have had a deal. I'd like to see 100 per day. Reduce the amount of money to Ukraine. And do we really have any real evidence that Trump said to kill the bill? Texts etc? Has anyone come forward to verify this? One last thing, Rip about your comment of reducing the amount of money to Ukraine. We can help Ukraine by financing their defense against Russia's attempt of taking over the country. Or we can finance Ukraine with tokens amounts of money and Russia will take over Ukraine. Once Russia takes over Ukraine it will most likely start going after the Baltic States which were once part of the Soviet Union. All three countries of which comprise the Baltic States are current members of NATO. By treaty through NATO, the United States as well with the rest of the NATO nations, will get dragged into a war with Russia. Not sure you really are aware of what war costs. The direct cost of World War II, in current U.S. dollars, was $4.1 trillion. And the Vietnam war, a much smaller geographical war, cost the U.S. $738 billion in current dollars. War Debt: America’s Cost of Going to WarYou appear to only be looking at dollars (and the hell with the deaths of Ukrainian citizens I guess). Well war costs many dollars and lives. Even a blind man can see Putin’s plan and the fact that those Baltic countries want NATO protection isn’t rocket science as to what they are concerned about. This is, scarily, a replay of what happened in 1939, and appeasement in Europe. The only difference is the name of the aggressor. ripvanwinkle, how’s your Russian?
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Post by Opti on Mar 18, 2024 6:13:21 GMT -5
If the Dems had conceded a little more like reducing the number of illegals let in from 5000 per day to maybe 500 per day they might have had a deal. I'd like to see 100 per day. Reduce the amount of money to Ukraine. And do we really have any real evidence that Trump said to kill the bill? Texts etc? Has anyone come forward to verify this? One last thing, Rip about your comment of reducing the amount of money to Ukraine. We can help Ukraine by financing their defense against Russia's attempt of taking over the country. Or we can finance Ukraine with tokens amounts of money and Russia will take over Ukraine. Once Russia takes over Ukraine it will most likely start going after the Baltic States which were once part of the Soviet Union. All three countries of which comprise the Baltic States are current members of NATO. By treaty through NATO, the United States as well with the rest of the NATO nations, will get dragged into a war with Russia. Not sure you really are aware of what war costs. The direct cost of World War II, in current U.S. dollars, was $4.1 trillion. And the Vietnam war, a much smaller geographical war, cost the U.S. $738 billion in current dollars. War Debt: America’s Cost of Going to WarYou appear to only be looking at dollars (and the hell with the deaths of Ukrainian citizens I guess). Well war costs many dollars and lives. Conservatives used to know that sending arms and sometimes help to other countries was a way to maintain freedom in the US and keep fighting off our shores. Now because of DT's marketing program, they fall for the Trump first, Russia second and America third marketing. Those against helping Ukraine need to take off their blinders and realize the reason Trump is pushing to reduce money to Ukraine is because he cares more about helping Putin than he cares about US security. Trump is successively selling Russian propaganda to them. Its sad and worrisome. The funds set aside for Ukraine goes to American military contractors which make the military hardware to send to Ukraine.
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