Elon Musk Now Owns Twitter

[daisylu]

...and it didn't take very long for the cockroaches to swarm. 


But Musk, a self-described "free speech absolutist," has fiercely criticized the company's previous leaders as overly rigid and suppressive and said he would work to overturn some of the company's main enforcement mechanisms, such as indefinitely suspending accounts.



A wide range of anonymous Twitter accounts celebrated Musk's takeover and argued it meant the old rules against bigotry no longer applied.



"Elon now controls twitter. Unleash the racial slurs. K—S AND N—S," said one account, using slurs for Jews and Black people. "I can freely express how much I hate n—s . . . now, thank you elon," another said.



In a tweeted letter Thursday, Musk had sought to soothe advertisers worried over the moderation changes by saying he did not want it to become a "free-for-all hellscape."

But the first hours of his purchase have shown how difficult that promise could be. One account, created this month, included a Nazi swastika as its profile picture and retweeted quotes from Musk alongside antisemitic memes. Another tweet, showing a video montage glorifying Nazi Germany with the comment, "I hear that there have been some changes around here," was liked more than 400 times.



Racial slurs were posted rampantly overnight. One single-word tweet, showing a single racial slur in all capital letters, was retweeted more than 500 times and liked more than 4,000 times. It was tweeted at 9 p.m. Thursday night and remained online nearly 12 hours later.

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[swamp]

Elon is one of those spoiled rich kids who is very bright but doesn't know what he doesn't know.  

I see this ending badly. 

[pulmonarymd]

How long before advertisers begin to pull out?

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

Oct 28, 2022 13:58:56 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

How long before advertisers begin to pull out?

Hopefully soon and hopefully all of them. If they don’t, people will realize what those companies stand for and stop buying.

[jerseygirl]

Oct 28, 2022 13:19:58 GMT -5 daisylu said:

...and it didn't take very long for the cockroaches to swarm. 


But Musk, a self-described "free speech absolutist," has fiercely criticized the company's previous leaders as overly rigid and suppressive and said he would work to overturn some of the company's main enforcement mechanisms, such as indefinitely suspending accounts.



A wide range of anonymous Twitter accounts celebrated Musk's takeover and argued it meant the old rules against bigotry no longer applied.



"Elon now controls twitter. Unleash the racial slurs. K—S AND N—S," said one account, using slurs for Jews and Black people. "I can freely express how much I hate n—s . . . now, thank you elon," another said.



In a tweeted letter Thursday, Musk had sought to soothe advertisers worried over the moderation changes by saying he did not want it to become a "free-for-all hellscape."

But the first hours of his purchase have shown how difficult that promise could be. One account, created this month, included a Nazi swastika as its profile picture and retweeted quotes from Musk alongside antisemitic memes. Another tweet, showing a video montage glorifying Nazi Germany with the comment, "I hear that there have been some changes around here," was liked more than 400 times.



Racial slurs were posted rampantly overnight. One single-word tweet, showing a single racial slur in all capital letters, was retweeted more than 500 times and liked more than 4,000 times. It was tweeted at 9 p.m. Thursday night and remained online nearly 12 hours later.

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Really? Musk had been the chief twit for maybe 20’minutes and some want to blame him for this? Think that’s what he’s calling and trying to prevent - a hellscape

Hoping trump doesn’t return and also hoping the chief Iranian Khameni doesn’t continue to use it to call for death for Israel
There’s a lot he can do
Maybe like Whatsap in China - banking, social media ,translation etc BUT not the creepy social points as in China
Our family used Whatsap when 2 DGSs were in China. It’s very handy for family or group chats. Stopped using about year after they returned because of the CCP social surveillance and ratings

[billisonboard]

Oct 29, 2022 9:21:52 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Oct 28, 2022 13:19:58 GMT -5 daisylu said:

...and it didn't take very long for the cockroaches to swarm. 


But Musk, a self-described "free speech absolutist," has fiercely criticized the company's previous leaders as overly rigid and suppressive and said he would work to overturn some of the company's main enforcement mechanisms, such as indefinitely suspending accounts.



A wide range of anonymous Twitter accounts celebrated Musk's takeover and argued it meant the old rules against bigotry no longer applied.



"Elon now controls twitter. Unleash the racial slurs. K—S AND N—S," said one account, using slurs for Jews and Black people. "I can freely express how much I hate n—s . . . now, thank you elon," another said.



In a tweeted letter Thursday, Musk had sought to soothe advertisers worried over the moderation changes by saying he did not want it to become a "free-for-all hellscape."

But the first hours of his purchase have shown how difficult that promise could be. One account, created this month, included a Nazi swastika as its profile picture and retweeted quotes from Musk alongside antisemitic memes. Another tweet, showing a video montage glorifying Nazi Germany with the comment, "I hear that there have been some changes around here," was liked more than 400 times.



Racial slurs were posted rampantly overnight. One single-word tweet, showing a single racial slur in all capital letters, was retweeted more than 500 times and liked more than 4,000 times. It was tweeted at 9 p.m. Thursday night and remained online nearly 12 hours later.

link

Really? Musk had been the chief twit for maybe 20’minutes and some want to blame him for this? Think that’s what he’s calling and trying to prevent - a hellscape

Hoping trump doesn’t return and also hoping the chief Iranian Khameni doesn’t continue to use it to call for death for Israel
There’s a lot he can do
Maybe like Whatsap in China - banking, social media ,translation etc BUT not the creepy social points as in China
Our family used Whatsap when 2 DGSs were in China. It’s very handy for family or group chats. Stopped using about year after they returned because of the CCP social surveillance and ratings

Blame? I read "giving him credit". I think Musk has sent mixed messages on what he envisions as free speech and what is a hellscape.
time.

[pulmonarymd]

Yes, Musk gets the blame. He calls himself a “free speech absolutist.” People are testing his tolerance for this. Will he allow Twitter to degenerate into a racist, sexist cesspool to further his belief, or will he recognize there is a limit to what is tolerable. If/when his profits fall, will he continue to be a “free speech absolutist”.

[Opti]

Allegedly he will keep 75% of Twitter's workforce. Interesting to see if that remains true before we roll into 2023.

[billisonboard]

Oct 29, 2022 12:32:19 GMT -5 Opti said:

Allegedly he will keep 75% of Twitter's workforce. Interesting to see if that remains true before we roll into 2023.

So does this mean that he thinks that they have 25% of their employees who are doing unnecessary work? Or that he will be replacing employees he doesn't want working for him?

[Opti]

Oct 29, 2022 13:19:35 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Oct 29, 2022 12:32:19 GMT -5 Opti said:

Allegedly he will keep 75% of Twitter's workforce. Interesting to see if that remains true before we roll into 2023.

So does this mean that he thinks that they have 25% of their employees who are doing unnecessary work? Or that he will be replacing employees he doesn't want working for him?

He's already fired a bunch of top management. I expect it will be a mix of two things - getting rid of those he does not agree with and disappearing some people and jobs to keep Twitter profitable for him. MO. YMV.

[Opti]

Oct 29, 2022 9:21:52 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Oct 28, 2022 13:19:58 GMT -5 daisylu said:

...and it didn't take very long for the cockroaches to swarm. 


But Musk, a self-described "free speech absolutist," has fiercely criticized the company's previous leaders as overly rigid and suppressive and said he would work to overturn some of the company's main enforcement mechanisms, such as indefinitely suspending accounts.



A wide range of anonymous Twitter accounts celebrated Musk's takeover and argued it meant the old rules against bigotry no longer applied.



"Elon now controls twitter. Unleash the racial slurs. K—S AND N—S," said one account, using slurs for Jews and Black people. "I can freely express how much I hate n—s . . . now, thank you elon," another said.



In a tweeted letter Thursday, Musk had sought to soothe advertisers worried over the moderation changes by saying he did not want it to become a "free-for-all hellscape."

But the first hours of his purchase have shown how difficult that promise could be. One account, created this month, included a Nazi swastika as its profile picture and retweeted quotes from Musk alongside antisemitic memes. Another tweet, showing a video montage glorifying Nazi Germany with the comment, "I hear that there have been some changes around here," was liked more than 400 times.



Racial slurs were posted rampantly overnight. One single-word tweet, showing a single racial slur in all capital letters, was retweeted more than 500 times and liked more than 4,000 times. It was tweeted at 9 p.m. Thursday night and remained online nearly 12 hours later.

link

Really? Musk had been the chief twit for maybe 20’minutes and some want to blame him for this? Think that’s what he’s calling and trying to prevent - a hellscape

Hoping trump doesn’t return and also hoping the chief Iranian Khameni doesn’t continue to use it to call for death for Israel
There’s a lot he can do
Maybe like Whatsap in China - banking, social media ,translation etc BUT not the creepy social points as in China
Our family used Whatsap when 2 DGSs were in China. It’s very handy for family or group chats. Stopped using about year after they returned because of the CCP social surveillance and ratings

PLease explain how being a free speech absolutist prevents any of this. He's against bots, but there are real live people who do hate speech without needing a bot to do so.

[billisonboard]

Oct 29, 2022 13:23:56 GMT -5 Opti said:

Oct 29, 2022 13:19:35 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

So does this mean that he thinks that they have 25% of their employees who are doing unnecessary work? Or that he will be replacing employees he doesn't want working for him?

He's already fired a bunch of top management. I expect it will be a mix of two things - getting rid of those he does not agree with and disappearing some people and jobs to keep Twitter profitable for him. MO. YMV.

Bringing in your people at the top makes sense. Profitable makes sense. Cutting excess employees certainly helps the bottom line. But was Twitter being so poorly run that 25% of their workforce was excess? Just seems extreme to me.

[Opti]

Oct 29, 2022 14:11:19 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Oct 29, 2022 13:23:56 GMT -5 Opti said:

He's already fired a bunch of top management. I expect it will be a mix of two things - getting rid of those he does not agree with and disappearing some people and jobs to keep Twitter profitable for him. MO. YMV.

Bringing in your people at the top makes sense. Profitable makes sense. Cutting excess employees certainly helps the bottom line. But was Twitter being so poorly run that 25% of their workforce was excess? Just seems extreme to me.

Its Musk. Only he knows what is lurking in his head, but I am sure that figure was put out there with some thought. He paid more than he wanted to for Twitter. Cutting enough employees to improve his cash flow is a very Musk thing to do IMO.

[kadee79]

And he may soon have competition!  I sure hope so cause we need a place that isn't this racist & nasty...

Don’t look now, Elon Musk, but Twitter founder Jack Dorsey is about to launch a public test version of a new social media app.



The app, Bluesky, is gearing up for a test run just after Musk plunked down $44 billion to buy Twitter. It already has a waiting list of users waiting to try out the app’s beta version.



It’s not yet clear what Blueksky will eventually look like or how it will function, but it has been noted as a rival to Twitter.



Bluesky’s “AT Protocol” is being touted as the critical element of a revolutionary “federated social network” that integrates ideas from the latest “decentralized technologies into a simple, fast, and open network,” according to a company blog. Users will presumably be able to move between several social media platforms using a single browser — Bluesky.

www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/twitter-founder-jack-dorsey-launching-test-of-rival-social-network/ar-AA13wEjt?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=ec00528af80740d3a176724f8e2bf978

[Opti]

It will be interesting to see what happens. I like the name Bluesky.

[billisonboard]

Elon Musk, Twitter’s new owner, tweets conspiracy theory about attack on Paul Pelosi

The new Twitter owner tweeted a link to an article full of baseless claims about Pelosi. The article was posted on a website that purports to be a news outlet.

[Tennesseer]

From Bills' above linked article:

In 2016 the same website falsely claimed that Clinton had died and that the person on the presidential campaign trail was not Clinton but her body double.

Gee-'he who shall not be named but lives around a space center in Florida' spent some time trying to convince us all most of the quoted information was true except he told us Hillary only had a couple more weeks to live-late stage Parkinson's disease.

And 'DON'T DOUBT ME.  EVER!'

[scgal]

Oct 29, 2022 13:26:36 GMT -5 Opti said:

Oct 29, 2022 9:21:52 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Really? Musk had been the chief twit for maybe 20’minutes and some want to blame him for this? Think that’s what he’s calling and trying to prevent - a hellscape

Hoping trump doesn’t return and also hoping the chief Iranian Khameni doesn’t continue to use it to call for death for Israel
There’s a lot he can do
Maybe like Whatsap in China - banking, social media ,translation etc BUT not the creepy social points as in China
Our family used Whatsap when 2 DGSs were in China. It’s very handy for family or group chats. Stopped using about year after they returned because of the CCP social surveillance and ratings

PLease explain how being a free speech absolutist prevents any of this. He's against bots, but there are real live people who do hate speech without needing a bot to do so.

It's ok if they do. To live in a society to be free that also means free to hate. 

[billisonboard]

Oct 31, 2022 7:56:11 GMT -5 scgal said:

Oct 29, 2022 13:26:36 GMT -5 Opti said:

PLease explain how being a free speech absolutist prevents any of this. He's against bots, but there are real live people who do hate speech without needing a bot to do so.

It's ok if they do. To live in a society to be free that also means free to hate. 

I feel what I feel. Society, free or otherwise, can not control that fact. What is at issue is not a feeling (hate) and not even the behavior of speech. Rather it is the use of a tool to amplify that speech and the responsibility that should be placed on those who control that tool.

[swamp]

Oct 29, 2022 10:55:29 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Yes, Musk gets the blame. He calls himself a “free speech absolutist.” People are testing his tolerance for this. Will he allow Twitter to degenerate into a racist, sexist cesspool to further his belief, or will he recognize there is a limit to what is tolerable. If/when his profits fall, will he continue to be a “free speech absolutist”.

Nope.   

[happyhoix]

Oct 31, 2022 8:44:33 GMT -5 swamp said:

Oct 29, 2022 10:55:29 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Yes, Musk gets the blame. He calls himself a “free speech absolutist.” People are testing his tolerance for this. Will he allow Twitter to degenerate into a racist, sexist cesspool to further his belief, or will he recognize there is a limit to what is tolerable. If/when his profits fall, will he continue to be a “free speech absolutist”.

Nope.   

Yeah, major advertisers are already pulling out.

Trump is nearly peeing himself in anticipation of being allowed back in, which brings up an interesting question.

Trump has only ever had a sliver of the followers on Truth Social that he had on Twitter. If he quits Truth Social, will that chaotic, struggling company tank?

If Trump rejoins Twitter and Musk allows it to become a breeding ground for far right conspiracies and hate speech, will it have any advertisers at all? Nazi themed merchandise and guns maybe?

[djAdvocate]

Oct 28, 2022 13:23:04 GMT -5 swamp said:

Elon is one of those spoiled rich kids who is very bright but doesn't know what he doesn't know.  

I see this ending badly. 

it will be bad for Tesla and worse for Twitter

[swamp]

Oct 31, 2022 22:48:53 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Oct 28, 2022 13:23:04 GMT -5 swamp said:

Elon is one of those spoiled rich kids who is very bright but doesn't know what he doesn't know.  

I see this ending badly. 

it will be bad for Tesla and worse for Twitter

should I sell my Tesla stock? 

[djAdvocate]

Nov 1, 2022 7:51:03 GMT -5 swamp said:

Oct 31, 2022 22:48:53 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

it will be bad for Tesla and worse for Twitter

should I sell my Tesla stock? 

if you have over 100 shares, i would certainly sell a call.

[hurley1980]

This company is doomed.  Laying off 3700 employees, and lawsuit already in place. Bringing in 50 of his tesla engineers with no IT or social media experience. Canceling rest days. Requiring everyone left to return to office full time.  No monitoring of hate speech.  Raising prices for verified accounts.  What a mess!

I've never had a twitter account, and already thought it was garbage, so its going to be fun to watch it implode and Musk lose billions of dollars.  I feel really bad for the laid off employees though, so close to the holidays!  Hopefully they can find better jobs!

[djAdvocate]

for those on twitter it is a disaster.
for those NOT on twitter, they will think twice about being on twitter.

[hurley1980]

Now companies are suspended their ads from Twitter.  


www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/companies-are-suspending-ads-on-twitter-after-elon-musk-s-takeover-here-s-the-full-list-of-brands-pressing-pause-on-advertising/ar-AA13JsW3?cvid=1fb6e247aef24a55820cf39f74ca5db3#comments

Companies including General Motors, Volkswagen, Audi, and Pfizer have reportedly paused ads on the platform as concern over Elon Musk's plans for content moderation grows, per The Wall Street Journal.



On Thursday, the billionaire tried to reassure skittish advertisers that the platform would remain safe to advertise on in a virtual meeting with more than 100 advertisers and ad agency executives, Insider's Lara O'Reilly and Lindsay Rittenhouse reported.



However, some advertisers are not so sure, and have pressed pause on advertising for the time being.

I cannot stand Musk, so I am pretty excited watching his $44B investment go down the toilet!

[Tennesseer]

[djAdvocate]

LOL!!!!

short TWTR  

edit: oh yeah.  not that symbol any more.

[Opti]

Nov 4, 2022 11:51:21 GMT -5 hurley1980 said:

This company is doomed.  Laying off 3700 employees, and lawsuit already in place. Bringing in 50 of his tesla engineers with no IT or social media experience. Canceling rest days. Requiring everyone left to return to office full time.  No monitoring of hate speech.  Raising prices for verified accounts.  What a mess!

I've never had a twitter account, and already thought it was garbage, so its going to be fun to watch it implode and Musk lose billions of dollars.  I feel really bad for the laid off employees though, so close to the holidays!  Hopefully they can find better jobs!

Because he is laying off half of his workforce, legally he cannot do it right away. Most of them had their last day of work but will be paid through February sometime. Read an article on that earlier today.

Laying off 50% of your workforce is not a way to inspire confidence. I wonder if he's planning to make Twitter last the year.