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Post by lurkyloo on Sept 4, 2024 16:59:25 GMT -5
I have worked in 8 industries, for 12 employers FYI. I got my work permit at 14YO and am coming up on 36 years of work experience. Yes, every workplace is different but you seem to have the same experiences with every employer. What is the common denominator? And you have never worked in places that I have. So you know what you are talking about because you worked where you worked, but I do not because I worked where I worked and not where you worked? Why are your experiences more valuable than mine? Play the victim with someone else. IMO, you have not succeeded in work life because you are too busy blaming everyone else for your situation instead of working to improve it. You like to blame men and minorities for your shortfalls. And yeah, opinions are like a**holes and everyone has one. working in a male dominated industry sucks, but you can prevail. I've moved up the food chain rather nicely, partly because of ability, partly because i recognize the value of networking with the right people, partially because of luck/right place/right time, and knowing when to play dumb and using it to my advantage. My first boss always said, "I can teach someone how to be a lawyer, I can't teach them how to play nice in the sandbox." My sandbox skills have served me very well. Of course since I have the soft skills I get all the challenging interactions… Plus side, I look like a damn genius because I can handle the relationships that were death spiraling when my coworker was in charge.
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Post by soupandstew on Sept 4, 2024 17:11:11 GMT -5
So because she has worked fewer places and done a good job and been promoted means nothing? You working at several places doing mediocre PT work and whining means the world is so unfair? Make that make sense. Some time you are so very young and very unaware of other parts of RL. What do you guys want, a cookie?Her experience is not the kind that can judge my career nor do either of you possess that. You and Chiver haven't even attained my age when 9/11 coincided with a big merger that left not just me unemployed but lots of folks. Chiver has the work at home flexibility us EEs in college thought surely we would have later in our careers. For us, it really did not take. Computer systems need to be managed in close to real time. Software upgrades need the in-person touch and often go to heck costing time, sleep, and money. Mergers, acquisitions, buyouts and bad financial planning at the top levels have cost me every single job I have had post college except for a couple I chose to leave. And those went away as well not long after as it turns out. The closer you work to operating systems and hardware, the more likely you are to get almost zero notice your job is going to be gone. Sometimes it is that meeting notice in your email with HR and your boss letting you know you lost the lottery to keep your job based on what you were working on. Or your manager lost the battles behind closed doors on which personnel would survive from both companies. Or better yet what skeleton staff would be kept until the new buyers took over and for how long. I have been working FT for more than 6 years so try to keep up. I have never been a mediocre worker, but I have had my share of bad bosses. And I do suffer in the self-promotion, bragging and lying department. It's part of that Midwest upbringing plus being brought up female in the 60s. My parents are from farming backgrounds. Yours? Please don't try again. If you need to bash me to feel better about yourselves or validate your existence, please avail yourself of a PM thread. This is tiresome. I don't see anyone here on the Boards other than you "wanting" anything. So, what is it you want from the Boards? You say you don't feel supported here; can you define "support"? If your definition of support is someone agreeing with everything you say, good luck, that's not going to happen in a virtual or real life. I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you or anyone over who's had the suckiest life-that's a loser's game for sure. I am sorry for whatever in you motivates the ugliness and hatred you display here, but my sorrow doesn't mean I agree with you having carte blanche to spew your verbal attacks over everyone here.
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Post by tallguy on Sept 4, 2024 17:12:08 GMT -5
So because she has worked fewer places and done a good job and been promoted means nothing? You working at several places doing mediocre PT work and whining means the world is so unfair? Make that make sense. Some time you are so very young and very unaware of other parts of RL. What do you guys want, a cookie? Her experience is not the kind that can judge my career nor do either of you possess that. You and Chiver haven't even attained my age when 9/11 coincided with a big merger that left not just me unemployed but lots of folks. Chiver has the work at home flexibility us EEs in college thought surely we would have later in our careers. For us, it really did not take. Computer systems need to be managed in close to real time. Software upgrades need the in-person touch and often go to heck costing time, sleep, and money. Mergers, acquisitions, buyouts and bad financial planning at the top levels have cost me every single job I have had post college except for a couple I chose to leave. And those went away as well not long after as it turns out. The closer you work to operating systems and hardware, the more likely you are to get almost zero notice your job is going to be gone. Sometimes it is that meeting notice in your email with HR and your boss letting you know you lost the lottery to keep your job based on what you were working on. Or your manager lost the battles behind closed doors on which personnel would survive from both companies. Or better yet what skeleton staff would be kept until the new buyers took over and for how long. I have been working FT for more than 6 years so try to keep up. I have never been a mediocre worker, but I have had my share of bad bosses. And I do suffer in the self-promotion, bragging and lying department. It's part of that Midwest upbringing plus being brought up female in the 60s. My parents are from farming backgrounds. Yours? Please don't try again. If you need to bash me to feel better about yourselves or validate your existence, please avail yourself of a PM thread. This is tiresome. Nobody does this to feel better about themselves or validate their existence. That you can even begin to think that is both pathetic and insulting. They do this to express their frustration at you and your posting style. I had you on ignore for a while so have missed much of it, but it is incredibly tiresome to be subjected to long, rambling, stream-of-consciousness whining about so many things in daily life. EVERYBODY has things to deal with in daily life. You are not overly put-upon. You are simply far less capable, for whatever reason, of dealing with things. Further, you refuse to accept responsibility for pretty much anything, and blame and insult others in your responses. There may in fact be a lot of things going wrong in your life, but the common denominator for all of them is you. Nobody cares if you had a professional job 30 years ago. It's not relevant today. Deal with issues today. I have never seen anybody for whom simple daily actions and responsibilities become life-altering, life-destroying things as they do for you. Be an adult. Figure things out. Fix what you can and learn to deal with the rest. And for the record, "blowing off steam" does not require an audience, and certainly not an unwilling one. I would also suggest that you REALLY reconsider either your posting style and attitude or your continued presence here. Does it even register with you that multiple posts saying in effect, "Please try to not be a dumbsh** so much of the time" are getting multiple and maybe double-digit likes? Does that say ANYTHING to you? I would think it should, but I'm not a professional victim. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (Mods - I understand if this ends up being deleted, so no, I won't be bothered if it is. )
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 4, 2024 17:20:38 GMT -5
Some time you are so very young and very unaware of other parts of RL. What do you guys want, a cookie? Her experience is not the kind that can judge my career nor do either of you possess that. You and Chiver haven't even attained my age when 9/11 coincided with a big merger that left not just me unemployed but lots of folks. Chiver has the work at home flexibility us EEs in college thought surely we would have later in our careers. For us, it really did not take. Computer systems need to be managed in close to real time. Software upgrades need the in-person touch and often go to heck costing time, sleep, and money. Mergers, acquisitions, buyouts and bad financial planning at the top levels have cost me every single job I have had post college except for a couple I chose to leave. And those went away as well not long after as it turns out. The closer you work to operating systems and hardware, the more likely you are to get almost zero notice your job is going to be gone. Sometimes it is that meeting notice in your email with HR and your boss letting you know you lost the lottery to keep your job based on what you were working on. Or your manager lost the battles behind closed doors on which personnel would survive from both companies. Or better yet what skeleton staff would be kept until the new buyers took over and for how long. I have been working FT for more than 6 years so try to keep up. I have never been a mediocre worker, but I have had my share of bad bosses. And I do suffer in the self-promotion, bragging and lying department. It's part of that Midwest upbringing plus being brought up female in the 60s. My parents are from farming backgrounds. Yours? Please don't try again. If you need to bash me to feel better about yourselves or validate your existence, please avail yourself of a PM thread. This is tiresome. Nobody does this to feel better about themselves or validate their existence. That you can even begin to think that is both pathetic and insulting. They do this to express their frustration at you and your posting style. I had you on ignore for a while so have missed much of it, but it is incredibly tiresome to be subjected to long, rambling, stream-of-consciousness whining about so many things in daily life. EVERYBODY has things to deal with in daily life. You are not overly put-upon. You are simply far less capable, for whatever reason, of dealing with things. Further, you refuse to accept responsibility for pretty much anything, and blame and insult others in your responses. There may in fact be a lot of things going wrong in your life, but the common denominator for all of them is you. Nobody cares if you had a professional job 30 years ago. It's not relevant today. Deal with issues today. I have never seen anybody for whom simple daily actions and responsibilities become life-altering, life-destroying things as they do for you. Be an adult. Figure things out. Fix what you can and learn to deal with the rest. And for the record, "blowing off steam" does not require an audience, and certainly not an unwilling one. I would also suggest that you REALLY reconsider either your posting style and attitude or your continued presence here. Does it even register with you that multiple posts saying in effect, "Please try to not be a dumbsh** so much of the time" are getting multiple and maybe double-digit likes? Does that say ANYTHING to you? I would think it should, but I'm not a professional victim. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (Mods - I understand if this ends up being deleted, so no, I won't be bothered if it is. ) you are within the bounds of the CoC here. -chiver mod
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Post by jerseygirl on Sept 4, 2024 17:23:58 GMT -5
DDIL was scheduled to have an appointment at Cedars Sinai today about her heart. It’s been damaged by radiation treatments for thoracic cancer. She needs at least one valve replaced and needs constant high oxygen. I’m praying they can help her. She is such a sweetheart but I’m sure the years of medical problems are taking a toll on both her and DS. I’m hoping to see the future they hope for. She becomes healthier and they can get their much wanted baby with a surrogate.
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Post by daisylu on Sept 4, 2024 17:30:04 GMT -5
So because she has worked fewer places and done a good job and been promoted means nothing? You working at several places doing mediocre PT work and whining means the world is so unfair? Make that make sense. Some time you are so very young and very unaware of other parts of RL. What do you guys want, a cookie? Her experience is not the kind that can judge my career nor do either of you possess that. You and Chiver haven't even attained my age when 9/11 coincided with a big merger that left not just me unemployed but lots of folks. Chiver has the work at home flexibility us EEs in college thought surely we would have later in our careers. For us, it really did not take. Computer systems need to be managed in close to real time. Software upgrades need the in-person touch and often go to heck costing time, sleep, and money. Mergers, acquisitions, buyouts and bad financial planning at the top levels have cost me every single job I have had post college except for a couple I chose to leave. And those went away as well not long after as it turns out. The closer you work to operating systems and hardware, the more likely you are to get almost zero notice your job is going to be gone. Sometimes it is that meeting notice in your email with HR and your boss letting you know you lost the lottery to keep your job based on what you were working on. Or your manager lost the battles behind closed doors on which personnel would survive from both companies. Or better yet what skeleton staff would be kept until the new buyers took over and for how long. I have been working FT for more than 6 years so try to keep up. I have never been a mediocre worker, but I have had my share of bad bosses. And I do suffer in the self-promotion, bragging and lying department. It's part of that Midwest upbringing plus being brought up female in the 60s. My parents are from farming backgrounds. Yours? Please don't try again. If you need to bash me to feel better about yourselves or validate your existence, please avail yourself of a PM thread. This is tiresome. I'm not sure how chiver got thrown into this? IIRC, you are less than 15 years older than me (about to turn 50). I've changed jobs many times over the years. You chose not to grow. I've been working full time plus more for almost 30 years. Try to get sympathy somewhere else. And stop blaming everyone else for your shortfalls.
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Post by soupandstew on Sept 4, 2024 17:30:43 GMT -5
DDIL was scheduled to have an appointment at Cedars Sinai today about her heart. It’s been damaged by radiation treatments for thoracic cancer. She needs at least one valve replaced and needs constant high oxygen. I’m praying they can help her. She is such a sweetheart but I’m sure the years of medical problems are taking a toll on both her and DS. I’m hoping to see the future they hope for. She becomes healthier and they can get their much wanted baby with a surrogate. I hope that's their future too. No child could ask for more than to be truly wanted and valued within a loving family
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Post by andi9899 on Sept 4, 2024 17:53:53 GMT -5
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Post by andi9899 on Sept 4, 2024 18:02:29 GMT -5
So because she has worked fewer places and done a good job and been promoted means nothing? You working at several places doing mediocre PT work and whining means the world is so unfair? Make that make sense. Do you really think I have been able to support myself on PT work for years on end? In CNJ? Its a message board, and I am allowed to whine and complain just like everyone else. You think you know my work history, but you don't. You think its all me because you have never worked with me nor probably ever been in a job or company that changes constantly. Let alone several. How many companies have you worked for that are simply footnotes in history now? I don't want to count but it is more than three. Please don't try again. If you need to bash me to feel better about yourselves or validate your existence, please avail yourself of a PM thread. This is tiresome. Honestly, I don't really care about you or your work history. I honestly wouldn't care if you starved because you refuse to do anything to help yourself. That's your choice, have at it. What I won't be quiet about is you being a dick to people that are just trying to help you. You come here and whine, but when someone offers you helpful advice, you're rude and make a big show about how you didn't ask for help. Then STFU or do something to better your situation. Or not, I don't really care. At least do the STFU part.
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Post by raeoflyte on Sept 4, 2024 18:15:12 GMT -5
But if you are a constant no show at work for various reasons that isn't why you aren't getting promoted or paid more. You are not entitled to those things simply because you are older than the people you work with. The bare minimum bar is you have to be able to show up daily. One must prove by being the butt in the seat that they can actually do the work. If you haven't been to work in x number of weeks and it happens several times per year, promotions will not happen. Why would an employer bother to train someone who they can't rely on to even show up. People hated me when I worked in the casinos and lived in Boulder. My Depression era parents taught both my sister and me that you show up no matter what. I was amazed at the IRS that the concept of getting up early to shovel snow was totally foreign. It was the same with the casinos. As long as the employee buses were running, the owner would tell them I drove up in a car from Boulder and they can get to the bus depot and park their car. There definitely were a few nights that I stayed with co-workers because of the snow. As my sister and I both say, this having to go every single day and be early can be a curse. I don't mind shoveling early to get to work on time, but I hope the show up no matter what mentality ends soon. I definitely had that, and I know my parents did for themselves although they were the ones asking me not to risk it during bad storms once they retired. When I got stuck in a blizzard - coming home from a work meeting in Black Hawk no less - I definitely remembered that my job would miss me for a few days at most and that staying for the last meeting despite being able to see the weather turn was a mistake.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 4, 2024 18:19:29 GMT -5
I may be out on that city job. Good grief. It wanted essays and examples of how I use things like word and excel
Never occurred to me to keep spreadsheets or word documents from all my jobs.
Oh well we'll see.
In the meantime I applied for the research coordinator job with Nebraska Cancer.
And since it's related I'm only 40 but most of my bosses weren't. I've had several retire and it's becoming a challenge to provide supervisor references.
I used to cheat and use my GU because he had a different last name and was my boss.
It's harder to pretend I'm not related to my dad.
I do have someone I worked with who is willing to play supervisor. I was on his grant but he wasn't actually my boss boss. But he did contribute to my paycheck and can speak about me as an employee so it works.
He moves and/or my last bosses at UNMC finally retire I'm in a pickle.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Sept 4, 2024 18:24:08 GMT -5
I was commuting to Black Hawk when I worked at the casino.
One snowy day when I worked at the IRS, I was stationed near Tamarac and I-25, so a long drive. As soon as I got there, the phone started ringing. People who lived a normal 5 minute drive from the office called and said they were not shoveling snow to come to work. They were unhappy they were going to have to use Annual Leave.
Turned out only the big boss and I managed to show up so he sent me home around noon and told me he would inform my boss that I had a day off coming.
The the snow plow in the parking lot of the building hit me. Good thing big box was watching as they denied it until he called them up himself. So they did pay to fix the damage to my car.
In all of my years of driving in snow, I never went into the ditch. Not once. Did a few 360's and thought I was going in the ditch but I never did.
I learned to drive in Iowa. Slow down. Slow and steady will usually get you where you want to go.
Now that I am retired, I do not go out on days like that. I don't have to and I'm not going to.
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Post by Opti on Sept 4, 2024 18:26:44 GMT -5
Chiver I don't report everything I do. And I agree I should explain less because you guys trash me almost every chance you get when it comes to jobs because you believe certain things. If you haven't already noticed, I almost never comment on any of your employment histories unless you disclose them to on me. Daisylu disclosed her history to on me. For no other reason at all. That made it fair game because it's like comparing apples to a grab bag of different fruits. Sure, they are both fruit, but after that comparison, it is generally worthless. I think you(collective) want to believe that good people always prevail, and others must suck in some way if they do not. That's a Trumper idea, a GOP worthiness idea and its frankly beneath you all to believe it. P.S. This is for me en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactions_Corporation
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 4, 2024 18:33:38 GMT -5
Chiver I don't report everything I do. And I agree I should explain less because you guys trash me almost every chance you get when it comes to jobs because you believe certain things. If you haven't already noticed, I almost never comment on any of your employment histories unless you disclose them to on me. Daisylu disclosed her history to on me. For no other reason at all. That made it fair game because it's like comparing apples to a grab bag of different fruits. Sure, they are both fruit, but after that comparison, it is generally worthless. I think you(collective) want to believe that good people always prevail, and others must suck in some way if they do not. That's a Trumper idea, a GOP worthiness idea and its frankly beneath you all to believe it. P.S. This is for me en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactions_Corporationand what makes you think that what anyone else posts here is a complete history? as far as your ASSumption about anyone being a Trumper because they don't share your opinion about how things are, that's what sent me.through through the roof. I've managed to work with the crazy next door to turn off the spotlight that lights up my house, so maybe I can find a compromise here as well? 🤷♀️ what do you want from us? because we clearly.dont understand.
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Post by tallguy on Sept 4, 2024 18:35:46 GMT -5
Chiver I don't report everything I do. And I agree I should explain less because you guys trash me almost every chance you get when it comes to jobs because you believe certain things. If you haven't already noticed, I almost never comment on any of your employment histories unless you disclose them to on me. Daisylu disclosed her history to on me. For no other reason at all. That made it fair game because it's like comparing apples to a grab bag of different fruits. Sure, they are both fruit, but after that comparison, it is generally worthless. I think you(collective) want to believe that good people always prevail, and others must suck in some way if they do not. That's a Trumper idea, a GOP worthiness idea and its frankly beneath you all to believe it. P.S. This is for me en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactions_CorporationRidiculous and irrelevant. Again. Grow up. That is far different from just growing old.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Sept 4, 2024 18:43:14 GMT -5
Some time you are so very young and very unaware of other parts of RL. What do you guys want, a cookie? Her experience is not the kind that can judge my career nor do either of you possess that. You and Chiver haven't even attained my age when 9/11 coincided with a big merger that left not just me unemployed but lots of folks. Chiver has the work at home flexibility us EEs in college thought surely we would have later in our careers. For us, it really did not take. Computer systems need to be managed in close to real time. Software upgrades need the in-person touch and often go to heck costing time, sleep, and money. Mergers, acquisitions, buyouts and bad financial planning at the top levels have cost me every single job I have had post college except for a couple I chose to leave. And those went away as well not long after as it turns out. The closer you work to operating systems and hardware, the more likely you are to get almost zero notice your job is going to be gone. Sometimes it is that meeting notice in your email with HR and your boss letting you know you lost the lottery to keep your job based on what you were working on. Or your manager lost the battles behind closed doors on which personnel would survive from both companies. Or better yet what skeleton staff would be kept until the new buyers took over and for how long. I have been working FT for more than 6 years so try to keep up. I have never been a mediocre worker, but I have had my share of bad bosses. And I do suffer in the self-promotion, bragging and lying department. It's part of that Midwest upbringing plus being brought up female in the 60s. My parents are from farming backgrounds. Yours? Please don't try again. If you need to bash me to feel better about yourselves or validate your existence, please avail yourself of a PM thread. This is tiresome. I'm not sure how chiver got thrown into this? IIRC, you are less than 15 years older than me (about to turn 50). I've changed jobs many times over the years. You chose not to grow. I've been working full time plus more for almost 30 years. Try to get sympathy somewhere else. And stop blaming everyone else for your shortfalls. OMG that reminds me of the saying “if you’re looking for sympathy, look between S and S in the dictionary ((not sure I can post due to code of conduct) so won’t finish it. But I bet some here have heard the saying.
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Post by toomuchreality on Sept 4, 2024 18:49:47 GMT -5
I'm not sure how chiver got thrown into this? IIRC, you are less than 15 years older than me (about to turn 50). I've changed jobs many times over the years. You chose not to grow. I've been working full time plus more for almost 30 years. Try to get sympathy somewhere else. And stop blaming everyone else for your shortfalls. OMG that reminds me of the saying “if you’re looking for sympathy, look between S and S in the dictionary ((not sure I can post due to code of conduct) so won’t finish it. But I bet some here have heard the saying. Bwahaha. I've never heard that before. But I was able to find it with a quick Google search. 🤣
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Post by soupandstew on Sept 4, 2024 18:52:42 GMT -5
One must prove by being the butt in the seat that they can actually do the work. If you haven't been to work in x number of weeks and it happens several times per year, promotions will not happen. Why would an employer bother to train someone who they can't rely on to even show up. People hated me when I worked in the casinos and lived in Boulder. My Depression era parents taught both my sister and me that you show up no matter what. I was amazed at the IRS that the concept of getting up early to shovel snow was totally foreign. It was the same with the casinos. As long as the employee buses were running, the owner would tell them I drove up in a car from Boulder and they can get to the bus depot and park their car. There definitely were a few nights that I stayed with co-workers because of the snow. As my sister and I both say, this having to go every single day and be early can be a curse. I don't mind shoveling early to get to work on time, but I hope the show up no matter what mentality ends soon. I definitely had that, and I know my parents did for themselves although they were the ones asking me not to risk it during bad storms once they retired. When I got stuck in a blizzard - coming home from a work meeting in Black Hawk no less - I definitely remembered that my job would miss me for a few days at most and that staying for the last meeting despite being able to see the weather turn was a mistake. Yes, I drove over an hour on ice (Texas does get that sometimes) to get to the office only to find the power was so no work could be done. Boss man drove 15 minutes back home while I drove another hour back on ice.
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Post by Opti on Sept 4, 2024 18:54:06 GMT -5
Some time you are so very young and very unaware of other parts of RL. What do you guys want, a cookie?Her experience is not the kind that can judge my career nor do either of you possess that. You and Chiver haven't even attained my age when 9/11 coincided with a big merger that left not just me unemployed but lots of folks. Chiver has the work at home flexibility us EEs in college thought surely we would have later in our careers. For us, it really did not take. Computer systems need to be managed in close to real time. Software upgrades need the in-person touch and often go to heck costing time, sleep, and money. Mergers, acquisitions, buyouts and bad financial planning at the top levels have cost me every single job I have had post college except for a couple I chose to leave. And those went away as well not long after as it turns out. The closer you work to operating systems and hardware, the more likely you are to get almost zero notice your job is going to be gone. Sometimes it is that meeting notice in your email with HR and your boss letting you know you lost the lottery to keep your job based on what you were working on. Or your manager lost the battles behind closed doors on which personnel would survive from both companies. Or better yet what skeleton staff would be kept until the new buyers took over and for how long. I have been working FT for more than 6 years so try to keep up. I have never been a mediocre worker, but I have had my share of bad bosses. And I do suffer in the self-promotion, bragging and lying department. It's part of that Midwest upbringing plus being brought up female in the 60s. My parents are from farming backgrounds. Yours? Please don't try again. If you need to bash me to feel better about yourselves or validate your existence, please avail yourself of a PM thread. This is tiresome. I don't see anyone here on the Boards other than you "wanting" anything. So, what is it you want from the Boards? You say you don't feel supported here; can you define "support"? If your definition of support is someone agreeing with everything you say, good luck, that's not going to happen in a virtual or real life. I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you or anyone over who's had the suckiest life-that's a loser's game for sure. I am sorry for whatever in you motivates the ugliness and hatred you display here, but my sorrow doesn't mean I agree with you having carte blanche to spew your verbal attacks over everyone here. Do I expect everyone or every anyone to agree with what I say? Heck no. I just wish I could get those nice murmuring noises to be supported, or my post simply ignored if you don't know what to say. Honestly I would be happy with the latter given this is YM OT.
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Post by CCL on Sept 4, 2024 18:54:21 GMT -5
You folks are brutal today. I need a break, so I'm outta here.
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 4, 2024 19:06:21 GMT -5
You folks are brutal today. I need a break, so I'm outta here. cheers, be well. ❤️
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Post by Opti on Sept 4, 2024 19:11:56 GMT -5
Chiver I don't report everything I do. And I agree I should explain less because you guys trash me almost every chance you get when it comes to jobs because you believe certain things. If you haven't already noticed, I almost never comment on any of your employment histories unless you disclose them to on me. Daisylu disclosed her history to on me. For no other reason at all. That made it fair game because it's like comparing apples to a grab bag of different fruits. Sure, they are both fruit, but after that comparison, it is generally worthless. I think you(collective) want to believe that good people always prevail, and others must suck in some way if they do not. That's a Trumper idea, a GOP worthiness idea and its frankly beneath you all to believe it. P.S. This is for me en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactions_Corporationand what makes you think that what anyone else posts here is a complete history? as far as your ASSumption about anyone being a Trumper because they don't share your opinion about how things are, that's what sent me.through through the roof. I've managed to work with the crazy next door to turn off the spotlight that lights up my house, so maybe I can find a compromise here as well? 🤷♀️ what do you want from us? because we clearly.dont understand. Look again. I did not say any of you were Trumpers. I said X was a Trumper and GOP idea. Very different. Here's my compromise. The world has gone mad and this is a difficult time. My writing is not concise lately. Its not something I am able to fix now and is a seasonal sign that my world is very challenging. People tend to misread me during these times, like you did above. I will try to avoid YM OT specially if it concerns job/work. You can PM me and link the post if I post something here I shouldn't. Sound like a plan?
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Post by NoNamePerson on Sept 4, 2024 19:12:06 GMT -5
OMG that reminds me of the saying “if you’re looking for sympathy, look between S and S in the dictionary ((not sure I can post due to code of conduct) so won’t finish it. But I bet some here have heard the saying. Bwahaha. I've never heard that before. But I was able to find it with a quick Google search. 🤣 Never dawned on me you could google it! I heard somebody say it in a bar years ago to a whinny type. Fortunately the bartender had just moved down to the next customer or he would have been wearing my vodka and orange juice. The only difference in saying is sex (not sh##) was what bar dude said!
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Post by tallguy on Sept 4, 2024 19:13:02 GMT -5
I don't see anyone here on the Boards other than you "wanting" anything. So, what is it you want from the Boards? You say you don't feel supported here; can you define "support"? If your definition of support is someone agreeing with everything you say, good luck, that's not going to happen in a virtual or real life. I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you or anyone over who's had the suckiest life-that's a loser's game for sure. I am sorry for whatever in you motivates the ugliness and hatred you display here, but my sorrow doesn't mean I agree with you having carte blanche to spew your verbal attacks over everyone here. Do I expect everyone or every anyone to agree with what I say? Heck no. I just wish I could get those nice murmuring noises to be supported, or my post simply ignored if you don't know what to say. Honestly I would be happy with the latter given this is YM OT. Maybe if you treated the board with respect you might get some back. It's probably too late at this point, not only because you have poisoned the well for so long already but because you are apparently here for the wrong reasons. "Beg not what you can take from the board. Ask what you can give." I can only remember back to the age of three or four, but I have never in my conscious life either needed or wished for "those nice murmuring noises to be supported." If you want to stipulate that I was more grown up at four than you are at several decades older, please, go ahead.
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Post by soupandstew on Sept 4, 2024 19:16:06 GMT -5
Chiver I don't report everything I do. And I agree I should explain less because you guys trash me almost every chance you get when it comes to jobs because you believe certain things. If you haven't already noticed, I almost never comment on any of your employment histories unless you disclose them to on me. Daisylu disclosed her history to on me. For no other reason at all. That made it fair game because it's like comparing apples to a grab bag of different fruits. Sure, they are both fruit, but after that comparison, it is generally worthless. I think you(collective) want to believe that good people always prevail, and others must suck in some way if they do not. That's a Trumper idea, a GOP worthiness idea and its frankly beneath you all to believe it. P.S. This is for me en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactions_CorporationAnd this is where I have a problem. You choose to label us, both individually and collectively, with a political slur without knowing anything about us. How dare you talk about what I do or do not believe, much less my "worthiness" to believe it? You do not know anything about me and never will, yet you feel somehow entitled to judge me? I do not need your permission to exist, think, or feel. Your statement carries a truly unimaginable arrogance.
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Post by mollyanna58 on Sept 4, 2024 20:06:00 GMT -5
OK all, how about everyone lays off Opti for a while. It's not helping anyone. Please and thank you.
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Post by giramomma on Sept 4, 2024 20:06:46 GMT -5
I’ve also worked for many years in male dominated management companies. One thing I noticed and used. Many men are ‘yes men’. Upper management notices when someone brings up a response that isn’t just agreement. I’m definitely not a ‘yes woman’. Or a shrinking flower. And my responses were often noted and rewarded by Upper management who were looking for solutions. Women are too often intimidated or don’t negotiate pay . Speak up ladies!! The guys do One of my women colleagues once told me - nobody will give you anything unless you ask. But just asking means nothing unless you show your value And what I learned is that when everyone is a yes woman, it's time to get out. Someone remarked that our whole dept leader liked to surround himself with strong women that were still yes women. Women that spoke up were penalized. My colleague was fired. That was in part because my colleague was extra. There really wasn't a strong basis to fire her. I was reprimanded. And the yes women, one of them who is literally running things into the ground, got rewarded with at least one promotion.
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Post by NastyWoman on Sept 4, 2024 20:15:57 GMT -5
Some time you are so very young and very unaware of other parts of RL. What do you guys want, a cookie? Her experience is not the kind that can judge my career nor do either of you possess that. You and Chiver haven't even attained my age when 9/11 coincided with a big merger that left not just me unemployed but lots of folks. Chiver has the work at home flexibility us EEs in college thought surely we would have later in our careers. For us, it really did not take. Computer systems need to be managed in close to real time. Software upgrades need the in-person touch and often go to heck costing time, sleep, and money. Mergers, acquisitions, buyouts and bad financial planning at the top levels have cost me every single job I have had post college except for a couple I chose to leave. And those went away as well not long after as it turns out. The closer you work to operating systems and hardware, the more likely you are to get almost zero notice your job is going to be gone. Sometimes it is that meeting notice in your email with HR and your boss letting you know you lost the lottery to keep your job based on what you were working on. Or your manager lost the battles behind closed doors on which personnel would survive from both companies. Or better yet what skeleton staff would be kept until the new buyers took over and for how long. I have been working FT for more than 6 years so try to keep up. I have never been a mediocre worker, but I have had my share of bad bosses. And I do suffer in the self-promotion, bragging and lying department. It's part of that Midwest upbringing plus being brought up female in the 60s. My parents are from farming backgrounds. Yours? Please don't try again. If you need to bash me to feel better about yourselves or validate your existence, please avail yourself of a PM thread. This is tiresome. I'm not sure how chiver got thrown into this? IIRC, you are less than 15 years older than me (about to turn 50). I've changed jobs many times over the years. You chose not to grow. I've been working full time plus more for almost 30 years. Try to get sympathy somewhere else. And stop blaming everyone else for your shortfalls. Don't worry about being younger. I have at least a decade of on her and my working life (or whatever term she used) must have been charmed. There is no way my life could have been as hard/complicated/discriminated against as hers. And this despite the fact that I started a completely new career in a foreign society. Whatever... And just a quick comment: I have never known a single person who claims to have had as many jobs s she did and was let go from all "but a very few". Yes, people lose jobs without having done anything wrong. Sh*t happens, but if you have a manure pile a mile high you really should consider to start shoveling
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Post by countrygirl2 on Sept 4, 2024 20:18:59 GMT -5
Well gosh, I will tell you about my day. I ended up confused is about all that happened.
I did prepare dinner about 5 as we were all starving. Had steaks, corn on the cob, sliced tomatoes, and baked potatoes, so that was good. The steaks were very good from the new meat market I found, going to look for others though to compare. This one is not very far away and has been in business for 70. Since we can't get Amish meat anymore going to have to pay more, but that's ok, we don't mind eating good meat that isn't steak.
Ok, I went to see about Medicaid for DD, that was an adventure, first finding the place was the first part.
We signed in and 137 minutes later our column had not moved. I went to the desk and asked if there was a problem. Oh they are just at lunch, for over an hour and a half? No I did not say that, just thank you. It must have been another hour before we got called back. I could not get info if she made to much money, could not get info about reports, nothing. She took the bank acct info, her monthly income, and other information. Probably another hour. When we got through, she said oh after you spend down?? Spend down, she gets $1429 a month from SS on her dads record. They said she has to spend $2997 every 6 months for medical before anything is covered? That the only thing covered is part B, so now she has medicare A and B only. So now she has no supplement and no part D and apple care will not pay D. I have a number to statewide heath ins benefit advisors she gave me. I couldn't get clarification if that was for drugs, hospital, or what.
I'm really wondering if I went to the right place. She has been disabled from birth and has had Medicaid since age 18 then Medicare and Medicaid after I retired and started drawing SS at age 62.
I can't imagine any insurance company giving her a supplement, though maybe I can get part D, that will help a ton if she can get that. This girl seemed to be just reading from a script in her mind. Maybe she didn't know.So I am not anymore informed than I was. She gave me 2 numbers to call, so now the chase starts. Just wow.
If there are new federal guidelines out its not being shared, but none of ever is, you have to dig and dig to find information.
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Post by toomuchreality on Sept 4, 2024 20:20:27 GMT -5
OK all, how about everyone lays off Opti for a while. It's not helping anyone. Please and thank you. Agreed.
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