what are you doing right now?

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Oct 23, 2023 17:46:12 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Oct 23, 2023 16:56:40 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

It really isn’t better for them.  It is a lot of empty calories that they don’t need.  They fill up on this and don’t eat the chow that has the taurine, bone meal and other things they need.  There is a lot that goes into making healthy cat chow, while I was doing this I thought about switching them over.  Had this been necessary for Gomez (like him giving up cat chow) I would have done so, but to do it correctly really is a pain.

The only reason why Gomez got it was I was trying to get weight on him.  That cat went from 12 lbs to 4 lbs.  He was getting as much chicken as he wanted along with kitten food and kitten milk.  He still lost weight.  

this was the argument I had with my friend, the veterinary nutritionist. she was appalled that I was fresh feeding my two, which had actually started as an effort to get LD to eat (he'd leave his kibble for days, he hated it) and to get some weight off Punk. both of them lick their bowls now, and are at healthy weights. D was horrified at the thought that they were missing nutrients, based on a sample bowl I listed out for her. when I asked her where in nature I could find the missing things, I turned around and gave her the options for those nutrients, that didn't happen to be in their bowls that day. 

when I brought it up with the vet I switched to when I moved back*, she shook her head and reassured me that I wasn't doing anytihng wrong by the pups in fresh feeding. I'd taken the necessary pounds off of Punk, and LD was still all of the lean muscle. they were both fresh coated and healthy. 

*this was the vet I would have chosen, if I knew then what I knew when I moved back. anyway, onward and upward! 

For cats in nature, they actually eat bones and they need the minerals they get from eating bones.  When I did the research, there was an optimal way of getting bone into their diets.  Cats are strict carnivores and have different nutritional requirements.  

I think one site I looked at suggested ground up whole rabbit as the best source of food, because the bones ground well and it contained all of what was needed.  Sourcing it was another issue.  

[soupandstew]

Oct 23, 2023 17:46:12 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Oct 23, 2023 16:56:40 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

It really isn’t better for them.  It is a lot of empty calories that they don’t need.  They fill up on this and don’t eat the chow that has the taurine, bone meal and other things they need.  There is a lot that goes into making healthy cat chow, while I was doing this I thought about switching them over.  Had this been necessary for Gomez (like him giving up cat chow) I would have done so, but to do it correctly really is a pain.

The only reason why Gomez got it was I was trying to get weight on him.  That cat went from 12 lbs to 4 lbs.  He was getting as much chicken as he wanted along with kitten food and kitten milk.  He still lost weight.  

this was the argument I had with my friend, the veterinary nutritionist. she was appalled that I was fresh feeding my two, which had actually started as an effort to get LD to eat (he'd leave his kibble for days, he hated it) and to get some weight off Punk. both of them lick their bowls now, and are at healthy weights. D was horrified at the thought that they were missing nutrients, based on a sample bowl I listed out for her. when I asked her where in nature I could find the missing things, I turned around and gave her the options for those nutrients, that didn't happen to be in their bowls that day. 

when I brought it up with the vet I switched to when I moved back*, she shook her head and reassured me that I wasn't doing anytihng wrong by the pups in fresh feeding. I'd taken the necessary pounds off of Punk, and LD was still all of the lean muscle. they were both fresh coated and healthy. 

*this was the vet I would have chosen, if I knew then what I knew when I moved back. anyway, onward and upward! 

I think we sometimes see a sad conflation of what you do (fresh feeding) and feeding table scraps.  You provide a quality diet of ingredients such as BSCB, fresh veggies, some carbs etc. which is far different from handing over food prepared for human consumption with high fat, high sodium content, and other commercial additives.  The occasional treat from the table doesn't hurt a dog or cat, but a steady diet of commercially processed human food can cause serious damage.  

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Oct 23, 2023 17:18:19 GMT -5 Pink Cashmere said:

Oct 23, 2023 16:56:40 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

It really isn’t better for them.  It is a lot of empty calories that they don’t need.  They fill up on this and don’t eat the chow that has the taurine, bone meal and other things they need.  There is a lot that goes into making healthy cat chow, while I was doing this I thought about switching them over.  Had this been necessary for Gomez (like him giving up cat chow) I would have done so, but to do it correctly really is a pain.

The only reason why Gomez got it was I was trying to get weight on him.  That cat went from 12 lbs to 4 lbs.  He was getting as much chicken as he wanted along with kitten food and kitten milk.  He still lost weight.  

I’m just curious. How is a balanced, natural diet not better than cat chow? Feral cats don’t eat cat chow, but them seem to be just fine.

Natural includes bones.  When cats eat rodents, they eat the bones as well.  As I mentioned earlier, ground up whole rabbit (including bones) was the optimal source of ‘meat’ for cats, according to the research I read on it.  I also have to wonder how long it would take to kill my food processor!  Sourcing was the issue for the rabbit though.  

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Things might work in our favor with GUs house.

In Nebraska with the house worth $100k it does not have to go into probate.

My dad is the executor of the estate per the POA.

He has to put a notice in the paper and whoever has debt or a family member can make a claim.

Grandma is in no condition to read the paper or make a claim.

Whatever is left after Medicaid and Millard take their share which is about $15k the rest goes to dad to distribute as he believes GU would have wished.

He can bypass Grandma entirely. He can stare GU didn't want it interfering with Grandma's Medicaid.

Unless we wave it in front of the home there is no one to make a stink about it.

It wouldn't be enough at current rates to make a difference if anyone is wondering. A handful of months and back to square one.

Boy that would be nice if it actually works out.

[chiver78]

Oct 23, 2023 18:01:55 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Oct 23, 2023 17:46:12 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

this was the argument I had with my friend, the veterinary nutritionist. she was appalled that I was fresh feeding my two, which had actually started as an effort to get LD to eat (he'd leave his kibble for days, he hated it) and to get some weight off Punk. both of them lick their bowls now, and are at healthy weights. D was horrified at the thought that they were missing nutrients, based on a sample bowl I listed out for her. when I asked her where in nature I could find the missing things, I turned around and gave her the options for those nutrients, that didn't happen to be in their bowls that day. 

when I brought it up with the vet I switched to when I moved back*, she shook her head and reassured me that I wasn't doing anytihng wrong by the pups in fresh feeding. I'd taken the necessary pounds off of Punk, and LD was still all of the lean muscle. they were both fresh coated and healthy. 

*this was the vet I would have chosen, if I knew then what I knew when I moved back. anyway, onward and upward! 

For cats in nature, they actually eat bones and they need the minerals they get from eating bones.  When I did the research, there was an optimal way of getting bone into their diets.  Cats are strict carnivores and have different nutritional requirements.  

I think one site I looked at suggested ground up whole rabbit as the best source of food, because the bones ground well and it contained all of what was needed.  Sourcing it was another issue.  

oh wow, that's interesting. bc the one time LD counter surfed and got sick, it was bc he snarfed more than half of a full chicken with all the bones.

that said, can cats do onion and garlic? honest question, I don't know

[chiver78]

Oct 23, 2023 18:03:37 GMT -5 soupandstew said:

Oct 23, 2023 17:46:12 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

this was the argument I had with my friend, the veterinary nutritionist. she was appalled that I was fresh feeding my two, which had actually started as an effort to get LD to eat (he'd leave his kibble for days, he hated it) and to get some weight off Punk. both of them lick their bowls now, and are at healthy weights. D was horrified at the thought that they were missing nutrients, based on a sample bowl I listed out for her. when I asked her where in nature I could find the missing things, I turned around and gave her the options for those nutrients, that didn't happen to be in their bowls that day. 

when I brought it up with the vet I switched to when I moved back*, she shook her head and reassured me that I wasn't doing anytihng wrong by the pups in fresh feeding. I'd taken the necessary pounds off of Punk, and LD was still all of the lean muscle. they were both fresh coated and healthy. 

*this was the vet I would have chosen, if I knew then what I knew when I moved back. anyway, onward and upward! 

I think we sometimes see a sad conflation of what you do (fresh feeding) and feeding table scraps.  You provide a quality diet of ingredients such as BSCB, fresh veggies, some carbs etc. which is far different from handing over food prepared for human consumption with high fat, high sodium content, and other commercial additives.  The occasional treat from the table doesn't hurt a dog or cat, but a steady diet of commercially processed human food can cause serious damage.  

thank you 💗

[Opti]

Oct 23, 2023 15:55:09 GMT -5 Pink Cashmere said:

In other news, my teeth woke me up last night, hurting, and it has been nonstop all day. I’m pretty sure it’s pressure from my sinuses because sinus issues have been giving me hell since last Sunday, and my ear on that side is also hurting. 

All of this random stuff is driving me crazy! If it’s not one thing, it’s another, or both, or a bunch of stuff. I.need.a.break.

Sorry it is so bad. I need to buy some liquid Mucinex and more Zrytec so I am really feeling it today although not quite that bad. I hope it doesn't get to that point because I know how unpleasant it is when your teeth hurt, and your inner ears start acting up as well. I hope hydration, steam, and whatever else works for you starts making you feel better soon.

[soupandstew]

On the topic of animal diets, while we as humans equate vomiting as illness, it's often a standard mechanism by which animals rid themselves of things they can't digest such as bones, feathers, fur etc.  Both cats and dogs do it-birds do too.  One easy way to identify an owl roost is the pile of small, undigested bones and fur beneath the tree.  

ETA:  That's why horses get colic - they have a one-way system so they can't vomit when their digestive system can't handle what they ate.  

[Pink Cashmere]

Oct 23, 2023 18:40:45 GMT -5 Opti said:

Oct 23, 2023 15:55:09 GMT -5 Pink Cashmere said:

In other news, my teeth woke me up last night, hurting, and it has been nonstop all day. I’m pretty sure it’s pressure from my sinuses because sinus issues have been giving me hell since last Sunday, and my ear on that side is also hurting. 

All of this random stuff is driving me crazy! If it’s not one thing, it’s another, or both, or a bunch of stuff. I.need.a.break.

Sorry it is so bad. I need to buy some liquid Mucinex and more Zrytec so I am really feeling it today although not quite that bad. I hope it doesn't get to that point because I know how unpleasant it is when your teeth hurt, and your inner ears start acting up as well. I hope hydration, steam, and whatever else works for you starts making you feel better soon.

Thank you. 

I do take Mucinex when my sinuses get out of control. But it is the kind that is behind the pharmacist counter, that includes a decongestant. I have learned that taking, for example, the Mucinex that is just an expectant and decongestant is better for me, than taking what’s easily available on the shelf, that also includes NSAID’s that I may or may not actually need. 

Anyway, I hope that what you are dealing with, doesn’t get worse and instead gets better sooner rather than later.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Oct 23, 2023 18:28:46 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Oct 23, 2023 18:01:55 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

For cats in nature, they actually eat bones and they need the minerals they get from eating bones.  When I did the research, there was an optimal way of getting bone into their diets.  Cats are strict carnivores and have different nutritional requirements.  

I think one site I looked at suggested ground up whole rabbit as the best source of food, because the bones ground well and it contained all of what was needed.  Sourcing it was another issue.  

oh wow, that's interesting. bc the one time LD counter surfed and got sick, it was bc he snarfed more than half of a full chicken with all the bones.

that said, can cats do onion and garlic? honest question, I don't know

I don’t know.  I thought feeding homemade food would be a slam dunk for cats, I’d just throw some stuff into the ground up chicken thighs and I’d be good.  Nope, it was a bit more complicated than that.  Since Gomez was also eating his regular chow, I really didn’t have to worry about supplementing the chicken I was giving him.  

I have never had a cat which would consider eating onion or garlic though.  

[countrygirl2]

My 2 kitties have killed 4 shrews and 2 snakes the last few days. They never eat that stuff, just kill it. I threw the snakes out of the garage, they are just little garden snakes. They sure like hunting them. The shrews they find around the planters I put the mums in, so they hunt right by the house.

I don't want to cook anything tonight, as hubs can't eat so don't want good smelling stuff all over the house. I just heated me up some leftover cauliflower and sauce. DD had tomato basil soup and crackers. Poor hubs had Miralax and Gatorade, then apple juice, then water this evening. He has to go till 10:30 in the morning. Then his surgery isn't till 12:30. I can't do that, my hypoglycemia would make me really sick. I try to schedule anything early as I can. I'm not sure what I do now as ozempic makes food stay in my stomach longer so issues with that. I guess I will find out in January when I have the ganglion cyst taken off my wrist.

I have spent the day washing sheets, put the new ones on our beds after washing. I had to run to town to get antibiotics for hubs. They think he has a minor infection from the urine specimen so put him on them tonight and in the morning. He finished making up our bed while I was gone. DD also received 2 new pillows and I put covers over them. I need to sort sheets again and see what we have. The motorhome has queen size so want 2 sets for it to go with it when we sell it. We have a full size bed in the basement, so will keep 2 for it. Have to see what we have for our XL twins. Need to reduce that stuff too.
I brought up winter sweaters and shirts from the basement and another closet for myself and DD and I washed all of those. Getting ready for winter.

Shower time!!

[Opti]

Oct 23, 2023 19:02:51 GMT -5 Pink Cashmere said:

Oct 23, 2023 18:40:45 GMT -5 Opti said:

Sorry it is so bad. I need to buy some liquid Mucinex and more Zrytec so I am really feeling it today although not quite that bad. I hope it doesn't get to that point because I know how unpleasant it is when your teeth hurt, and your inner ears start acting up as well. I hope hydration, steam, and whatever else works for you starts making you feel better soon.

Thank you. 

I do take Mucinex when my sinuses get out of control. But it is the kind that is behind the pharmacist counter, that includes a decongestant. I have learned that taking, for example, the Mucinex that is just an expectant and decongestant is better for me, than taking what’s easily available on the shelf, that also includes NSAID’s that I may or may not actually need. 

Anyway, I hope that what you are dealing with, doesn’t get worse and instead gets better sooner rather than later.

There are many varieties of liquid Mucinex, and I agree I do my best to avoid those with the NSAIDs. I think all the nighttime formulas contain some which I don't like. Need to sift through my coupons so I can go shopping at lunch for some of what I need which includes AAA batteries. My kitchen timer is dead until I replace its batteries. Since its portable I use it for so many things including keeping track of the time when I get ready for work.

[soupandstew]

Tomorrow's going to be a busy one.  The arborist will be here at 9:30 to review the trees and set up next year's plan, I need to post investment trades, pick up a prescription refill, divide and package the proteins I bought today (ground beef, turkey and lamb), and call the homeowner insurance company to get clarification on an endorsement for DH.  And fix supper which will be sauteed chicken tenders and fresh asparagus.  

[Sharon]

Oct 23, 2023 18:28:46 GMT -5 chiver78 said:

Oct 23, 2023 18:01:55 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

For cats in nature, they actually eat bones and they need the minerals they get from eating bones.  When I did the research, there was an optimal way of getting bone into their diets.  Cats are strict carnivores and have different nutritional requirements.  

I think one site I looked at suggested ground up whole rabbit as the best source of food, because the bones ground well and it contained all of what was needed.  Sourcing it was another issue.  

oh wow, that's interesting. bc the one time LD counter surfed and got sick, it was bc he snarfed more than half of a full chicken with all the bones.

that said, can cats do onion and garlic? honest question, I don't know

There have been a few times over the years when my cats have been put on baby food or a very restricted diet and the vet always told me make sure no garlic and no onions that it wasn't good for them.

[Pink Cashmere]

I just gave in and took some Motrin, even though the stupid GI doctor recommended I stop taking it. I use to take it for my shoulder issues and other aches and pains and issues.

But I still stopped taking it when I was advised to.

But this shit with my teeth hurting is too much, so I took some Motrin, hoping it will help with the pain. 

What I’ve learned is that even though I do have a high tolerance for pain, there are still levels to it. Tooth pain and nerve pain, are too much. Headaches and stomach aches have always been awful for me too. I can deal with aches and pains in other parts of my body, but those, not so much. And my examples of my pain tolerance for many years, was that I gave birth to my first baby with no drugs to make it easier on me. And I was not so scarred by the experience that I wasn’t willing to do the same with my next baby, and did. But that reference is with the understanding that having a baby isn’t just about the pain of birthing them into the world, but also taking care of and raising him or her, which I did NOT want to do with more babies. 

But since then, I have finally experienced pain that makes me think I’d rather have another baby than live with that pain all day, every day. And that has been tooth pain and nerve pain. I have cried many tears about my GI issues, but as horrible as it has been, I don’t think I’d rather have a baby. 

So if I fuck up my stomach some more because I took some Motrin to try to get some relief from my teeth hurting, I am willing to take that chance. Because please God, I need that to stop.

[countrygirl2]

I don't know what kind of tooth pain you have. But my teeth bother me badly at times and I brush with Sensodyne toothpaste for a few days. But maybe that is something different.

I also have a couple of types of nasal spray my doc gives to me for issues. They said flonase is non addictive so I use it a lot of nights with a breathe rite strip. She said the OTC is the same. If mine gets all stopped up, than my sinuses really get plugged and hurt. My nose is long and narrow inside, ENT guy said surgery might not help much. The strips open it wider at night so I can breathe. I think this was a lot of my problem instead of sleep apnea. So I use them every night.

Since I got my tonsils out and take all these shots for covid, flu, and everything I have had way less problems with it. Or shall I say the problems are not as severe.

[cooper88]

The worst pain I ever had in my life was from an abscessed tooth.

[wvugurl26]

The only decongestant that works is the one behind the counter. The FDA recently ruled the one over the counter is basically useless. I expect it may disappear from the market eventually.

Once I ate today I took an advil cold and sinus, 2 other Advil and a Mucinex. It took the pain down to a dull roar so I was able to do some necessary work and rest.

I have a dentist appointment next week so I'm going to ask the dentist. I had to reschedule my oral surgeon check up due to work training so that's in early November now. When I had so many sinus infections, the jaw and teeth pain was always the clue.

[Pink Cashmere]

Oct 23, 2023 20:13:24 GMT -5 countrygirl2 said:

I don't know what kind of tooth pain you have. But my teeth bother me badly at times and I brush with Sensodyne toothpaste for a few days. But maybe that is something different.

I also have a couple of types of nasal spray my doc gives to me for issues. They said flonase is non addictive so I use it a lot of nights with a breathe rite strip. She said the OTC is the same. If mine gets all stopped up, than my sinuses really get plugged and hurt. My nose is long and narrow inside, ENT guy said surgery might not help much. The strips open it wider at night so I can breathe. I think this was a lot of my problem instead of sleep apnea. So I use them every night.

Since I got my tonsils out and take all these shots for covid, flu, and everything I have had way less problems with it. Or shall I say the problems are not as severe.

Before when my teeth have hurt like this, I’ve gone to the dentist to try to figure out whether it was a tooth causing the pain, or my sinuses. It was my sinuses. 

I have had surgery to remove nasal polyps that were the cause of a very bad sinus infection that would not go away, no matter what. My Mom went with me for the surgery, and when he talked to her while I was in recovery, he told her that he had to clean a lot of nasty stuff out of the sinus cavity on that side of my face.

When imaging tests showed all the gunk in that sinus cavity and it was discovered that I had nasal polyps, the Doctor said he was surprised that I hadn’t sought help way before then, saying I had trouble breathing. Well, I’ve had bad allergies since I was 4yo, when I was first diagnosed, and all of my allergies are not just seasonal, so not being able to breathe properly feels normal to me.

It has not been confirmed by doctors and imaging tests, but I believe the polyps are back. I have a lot of issues on that side of my head again. But my current issues are on the other side of my face, so just fuck me.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Oct 23, 2023 20:32:19 GMT -5 Pink Cashmere said:

Oct 23, 2023 20:13:24 GMT -5 countrygirl2 said:

I don't know what kind of tooth pain you have. But my teeth bother me badly at times and I brush with Sensodyne toothpaste for a few days. But maybe that is something different.

I also have a couple of types of nasal spray my doc gives to me for issues. They said flonase is non addictive so I use it a lot of nights with a breathe rite strip. She said the OTC is the same. If mine gets all stopped up, than my sinuses really get plugged and hurt. My nose is long and narrow inside, ENT guy said surgery might not help much. The strips open it wider at night so I can breathe. I think this was a lot of my problem instead of sleep apnea. So I use them every night.

Since I got my tonsils out and take all these shots for covid, flu, and everything I have had way less problems with it. Or shall I say the problems are not as severe.

Before when my teeth have hurt like this, I’ve gone to the dentist to try to figure out whether it was a tooth causing the pain, or my sinuses. It was my sinuses. 

I have had surgery to remove nasal polyps that were the cause of a very bad sinus infection that would not go away, no matter what. My Mom went with me for the surgery, and when he talked to her while I was in recovery, he told her that he had to clean a lot of nasty stuff out of the sinus cavity on that side of my face.

When imaging tests showed all the gunk in that sinus cavity and it was discovered that I had nasal polyps, the Doctor said he was surprised that I hadn’t sought help way before then, saying I had trouble breathing. Well, I’ve had bad allergies since I was 4yo, when I was first diagnosed, and all of my allergies are not just seasonal, so not being able to breathe properly feels normal to me.

It has not been confirmed by doctors and imaging tests, but I believe the polyps are back. I have a lot of issues on that side of my head again. But my current issues are on the other side of my face, so just fuck me.

Do you have any Sudafed?  This is the good stuff, that you need to sign away your first born son.  If you have sinus issues, this will alleviate it.  If it’s tooth pain, NSAIDs (supposedly) work best for that.  I disagree, as when I had an abscessed tooth, I needed the good drugs to take me off the ceiling.  That was painful, but hips still win the pain battle.

[TheOtherMe]

Oct 23, 2023 17:29:35 GMT -5 giramomma said:

Oct 23, 2023 14:22:23 GMT -5 Pink Cashmere said:

Thank you.

Do you feel any better yet?

The good: No need to use the bathroom every 38 seconds.

The bad: I lose a couple hours at a time napping

The ugly: currently sporting a 101.5 temp.

None of that is good.

Feel better very soon.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Sudafed and Flonase works wonders for me

Though for about an hour after I see noises and taste colors.

[TheOtherMe]

Despite my brushing Amelia, she had gotten a spot where her fur was matted.  This evening I finally got is all combed out and she seemed much happier.  She flinched a couple of times but didn't move away so I kept brushing.  I'm sure she feels better

[Pink Cashmere]

Oct 23, 2023 20:16:14 GMT -5 cooper88 said:

The worst pain I ever had in my life was from an abscessed tooth.

Good Lord, it’s awful Several years ago, an old filling came out on a Thursday evening. My dentist is closed on Fridays, and I thought “no big deal, I will just call for an appointment Monday. Which I did, and she saw me that day. 

I don’t remember exactly what day what happened, but I think it was the day after I saw her that I woke up with my jaw so swollen I didn’t even look like myself. And either that morning or the next, I was in the kitchen preparing coffee and started having trouble breathing. I panicked and ran to wake Mister up and couldn’t even tell him what was wrong, I was just frantically pointing at my throat and making weird sounds. He jumped up and put some clothes on, to take me to the ER.

I still have pictures of how grotesquely swollen my jaw was. Because of the way I looked, the whole time I was there, the hospital staff asked questions and looked sideways at Mister, because they seemed to think he might have beat me up and been the reason my jaw was so swollen. They were not nice to him at all, the whole time I was there. They didn’t actually fix anything, they just gave me some stronger antibiotics and pain meds and sent me on my way.

A day or 2 after that, I was still in intense pain and called my dentist again and they told me to come in. That is how I learned that they wait for the antibiotics to work and reduce the swelling, before they do anything, so that the numbing shots will work. She lanced my gums and I felt every bit of it. I cried like a baby the whole time I drove home after that. When I got home, idk why, but I took off all my clothes and was butt naked on my knees in my bedroom, rocking back and forth, sobbing and crying out loud for God to please take the pain away. 

Fast forward some years, and I learned what real nerve pain feels like. I woke up in the middle of the night because my arm was hurting so bad. By the time I woke Mister up, I was crying and hopping around the bedroom because it hurt so bad. He put me in a warm shower first, to try to relax the muscles in my arm, but that didn’t work, so once again, he made me go to the ER. My fingers were curled and I couldn’t straighten them out, and I literally screamed in pain when he tried to straighten them, so he had to put my clothes on for me. 

If somebody would’ve offered to just chop my arm off to stop the pain, I would’ve said please do. And I am not exaggerating, that’s just how bad it was. I’d already been diagnosed with Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and compressed ulnar nerves, and the Dr at the hospital said I probably also have a pinched nerve in my neck that caused all that pain that night.

Those 2 episodes were the worst pain I’ve ever experienced. They were both excruciating in ways I can’t even describe, and that is coming from someone that has a high tolerance for pain. 

[chiver78]

this stuff is magic, and Amazon has it for $5/bottle, as I discovered when I had covid. same day delivery, too. that said, Walmart has it as well.
www.healthwarehouse.com/-2882045.html?wiz_medium=SEM&wiz_source=google&wiz_campaign=Shopping%20-%20OTC%20-%20General&wiz_term=7573&gclid=CjwKCAjws9ipBhB1EiwAccEi1KHS6Y0SXrSU7LB_NbYbjvaFqoWsCQbPXl4iiMyvLwrn4XvGXPODjxoCbaUQAvD_BwE

[Pink Cashmere]

Oct 23, 2023 20:45:11 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Oct 23, 2023 20:32:19 GMT -5 Pink Cashmere said:

Before when my teeth have hurt like this, I’ve gone to the dentist to try to figure out whether it was a tooth causing the pain, or my sinuses. It was my sinuses. 

I have had surgery to remove nasal polyps that were the cause of a very bad sinus infection that would not go away, no matter what. My Mom went with me for the surgery, and when he talked to her while I was in recovery, he told her that he had to clean a lot of nasty stuff out of the sinus cavity on that side of my face.

When imaging tests showed all the gunk in that sinus cavity and it was discovered that I had nasal polyps, the Doctor said he was surprised that I hadn’t sought help way before then, saying I had trouble breathing. Well, I’ve had bad allergies since I was 4yo, when I was first diagnosed, and all of my allergies are not just seasonal, so not being able to breathe properly feels normal to me.

It has not been confirmed by doctors and imaging tests, but I believe the polyps are back. I have a lot of issues on that side of my head again. But my current issues are on the other side of my face, so just fuck me.

Do you have any Sudafed?  This is the good stuff, that you need to sign away your first born son.  If you have sinus issues, this will alleviate it.  If it’s tooth pain, NSAIDs (supposedly) work best for that.  I disagree, as when I had an abscessed tooth, I needed the good drugs to take me off the ceiling.  That was painful, but hips still win the pain battle.

No, I don’t have Sudafed. My go to has always been the Mucinex behind the counter, because that was always what my PCP recommended. 

But I am willing to try it.

[chiver78]

Oct 23, 2023 21:00:00 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Sudafed and Flonase works wonders for me

Though for about an hour after I see noises and taste colors.

fun fact, I do this on the regular! I hear colors and taste numbers. isn't the spectrum fantastic?

[Pink Cashmere]

Oct 23, 2023 21:00:00 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Sudafed and Flonase works wonders for me

Though for about an hour after I see noises and taste colors.

Say what?

But at this point, I wouldn’t even care about that if it ultimately helped with my issues. 

[weltz]

Oct 23, 2023 14:30:05 GMT -5 countrygirl2 said:

I gave the cats that bit of salmon last night. Smoke nibbled on it and Mr Hungry Gut wouldn't touch it. What is it that they don't like food other animals would fight to get. No steak no nothing of real food will they eat. I know they need certain things from cat food but I would think real food would be better for them overall supplemented with cat food.

It is really nice out 72. I turned the furnace off and opened a door, hope we don't get buried in stink bugs.

Sushi gets a small can of cat food in the morning, then chicken at night. 
He would KILL for smoked salmon. Too bad they don't make smoked salmon wet food.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Oct 23, 2023 21:08:56 GMT -5 Pink Cashmere said:

Oct 23, 2023 21:00:00 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Sudafed and Flonase works wonders for me

Though for about an hour after I see noises and taste colors.

Say what?

But at this point, I wouldn’t even care about that if it ultimately helped with my issues. 

Behind the counter Sudafed has pseudoephdrine and Flonase is a steriod.

It makes me tweak.

And pee A LOT. I have to watch the Flonase.