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Post by billisonboard on Mar 6, 2022 21:37:14 GMT -5
Seems like she would be a valuable player on a Russian team. Not sure who owns that team. But they might have some political pull and could be working to get her a suspended sentence and a fine. For some reason I don't see any Russian basketball teams playing on the international stage any time soon. The team she has been playing for is part of an in-country league: Russian Women's Basketball Premier League
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 6, 2022 21:50:32 GMT -5
For some reason I don't see any Russian basketball teams playing on the international stage any time soon. The team she has been playing for is part of an in-country league: Russian Women's Basketball Premier LeagueSo they will hold her in Russia. Got it.
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Post by mroped on Mar 6, 2022 22:23:22 GMT -5
I’ve watched a few short videos with Putin in press conferences and such since the whole Ukrainian ordeal started. He was asked bluntly “why?” From what I gathered, he’s kinda pissed at all the former Warsaw treaty countries that already joined NATO. Apparently, in the 90s when the treaty was dissolved, all members of the treaty agreed NOT to join NATO but they could be affiliate members. All is based on maintaining a military balance of power. Since Ukraine declared intentions of joining NATO, that was kinda the last string that it could be plucked! If Ukraine is to join NATO then Ukraine will do it as Ukraine and not as the federation of little countries that creates what we know today as Ukraine. The biggest plot/part of Ukraine that always had a claim to independence from Ukraine is Zaporojie which is basically bigger than Ukraine originally was so that would be a good hit, just about halving the territories of Ukraine. That’s also the area where most of the nuclear plants are placed- easy access to water for the cooling systems, strategical position for the distribution of electricity, etc. Praise Zelensky all you want but I personally dislike the man after the remarks that he had made lately about the territories inhabited by other than Ukrainian nations. He declared that Romanians invaded Ukraine long time ago and that’s why some of the territories speak Romanian which gave them the basis in 2017 to ban studying in any other language besides Ukrainian. The man is either re-writing history or he doesn’t know it at all! As soon as Putin proves his point, he will stop advancement and is possible that he will hold onto the gained terrains. And no, I do not believe any of the claims that “500 Russian special forces were killed by civilians” or “Russian convoys are stuck because they ran out of fuel” and the likes. But that’s just me! you think that justifies an invasion? the 90s was 30 fucking years ago. Was Ukraine suppose to be held to that "idea" for 1000 years? you think that bullshit excuse in any way justifies bombing civilian targets, killing children? Shame on you! Wow-wow-wow! That’s a bit harsh, ain’t it! I didn’t say that “I support Putin and what he does. Nor did I say that is right in any way, form or shape! Now please excuse me for understanding his mentality! After all, the likes of him trained me and taught me their way of thinking. The Ukrainians were told up front to stop toying with the idea of joining NATO because that would mean disregarding/trashing their agreement. Is it right what Putin did? By all means no but as in any similar case, the media inflates things. One civilian life lost in war is too much but I haven’t seen too many Americans rising up in arms and organizing “help relief funds” for the Iraqis or afghanis when we, the US invaded for no reason and with no cause. Russia(the former tzarist and USSR) had protected Ukraine since the times of Gengis Khan. They are almost the same people. Almost! Now, they’ve seen dollar signs and want a piece of it and throw away things that were built over the course of 1000 years and all for money! And that’s the politicians not the little people, the average Joe, but that’s who pays the price now.
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Post by mroped on Mar 6, 2022 22:27:18 GMT -5
Ofcourse the troops need to stay of the trucks because they’d be an easy target. Does anyone have any proof that they are out of fuel or is just a supposition? Putin is too organized of a mind and too proud of himself to embarrass himself doing that. Im just saying that I don’t believe that, that there is a reason for those trucks to be stopped and is definitely other than shortage of fuel! When Russia left Ukraine, they didn’t stop furnishing them with the hardware necessary for the military so it could be just something to bring the morale up
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Post by mroped on Mar 6, 2022 22:35:20 GMT -5
I’ve watched a few short videos with Putin in press conferences and such since the whole Ukrainian ordeal started. He was asked bluntly “why?” From what I gathered, he’s kinda pissed at all the former Warsaw treaty countries that already joined NATO. Apparently, in the 90s when the treaty was dissolved, all members of the treaty agreed NOT to join NATO but they could be affiliate members. All is based on maintaining a military balance of power. Since Ukraine declared intentions of joining NATO, that was kinda the last string that it could be plucked! If Ukraine is to join NATO then Ukraine will do it as Ukraine and not as the federation of little countries that creates what we know today as Ukraine. The biggest plot/part of Ukraine that always had a claim to independence from Ukraine is Zaporojie which is basically bigger than Ukraine originally was so that would be a good hit, just about halving the territories of Ukraine. That’s also the area where most of the nuclear plants are placed- easy access to water for the cooling systems, strategical position for the distribution of electricity, etc. Praise Zelensky all you want but I personally dislike the man after the remarks that he had made lately about the territories inhabited by other than Ukrainian nations. He declared that Romanians invaded Ukraine long time ago and that’s why some of the territories speak Romanian which gave them the basis in 2017 to ban studying in any other language besides Ukrainian. The man is either re-writing history or he doesn’t know it at all! As soon as Putin proves his point, he will stop advancement and is possible that he will hold onto the gained terrains. And no, I do not believe any of the claims that “500 Russian special forces were killed by civilians” or “Russian convoys are stuck because they ran out of fuel” and the likes. But that’s just me! Putin's point is what? I can bomb civilians, healthcare facilities, and nuclear facilities? Zelensky is a former actor and comedian, I don't expect him to be fully up on his country's history. Why are the Russian convoys stuck? Besides the media, who says the convoy is stuck? Im expecting an elected official to have some knowledge of what he’s talking about. Zelensky is one of the signatories of the 2017 law that prohibited studying in any other language than Ukrainian. He should now that not just yap stupid nonsense! Putin’s point is that he doesn’t care, that you should stick to your deals or support the consequences. It’s all equal to him. What was bombed in Kyiv were targets of military/ strategic importance. I don’t think there was a hospital in there but anything is possible. That’s war for you!
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Post by tallguy on Mar 6, 2022 22:58:54 GMT -5
Seems like she would be a valuable player on a Russian team. Not sure who owns that team. But they might have some political pull and could be working to get her a suspended sentence and a fine. For some reason I don't see any Russian basketball teams playing on the international stage any time soon. She does not play for Russia in any international competitions. She plays for the U.S.A. Women's National Team. She primarily plays for the Phoenix Mercury (I believe) in the WNBA, but because women players in the WNBA make only a small fraction of what NBA players make, many also play overseas during the WNBA offseason. Some play in Russia, but that does not at all mean that they play FOR Russia.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 6, 2022 23:03:45 GMT -5
you think that justifies an invasion? the 90s was 30 fucking years ago. Was Ukraine suppose to be held to that "idea" for 1000 years? you think that bullshit excuse in any way justifies bombing civilian targets, killing children? Shame on you! The Ukrainians were told up front to stop toying with the idea of joining NATO because that would mean disregarding/trashing their agreement. Why is putin supposedly allowed to tell Ukraine what agreements it can and cannot enter into?
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Post by mroped on Mar 6, 2022 23:14:42 GMT -5
The Ukrainians were told up front to stop toying with the idea of joining NATO because that would mean disregarding/trashing their agreement. Why is putin supposedly allowed to tell Ukraine what agreements it can and cannot enter into? I’m not sure what’s his take but there are some things about honor and such that military people like Putin keep up there, in the high spot. And then is the feel that he believes that if the last of Eastern European countries joins NATO than Russia is left all alone. And that’s not very comforting!
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Post by Opti on Mar 7, 2022 0:40:50 GMT -5
This is from a little over a month ago. By invading Ukraine, Russia has made it more likely Ukraine will join NATO instead of less. hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/02/05/if-ukraine-isnt-joining-nato-what-is-putin-doing-n446477Some of the assumptions that many of us probably made as the tensions surrounding Russia and Ukraine mounted may have turned out to be incorrect, or at least overinflated. That seems to be the premise being put forward by Robert Burns in an Associated Press “explainer” this week. Chief among the demands made by Vladimir Putin is his insistence that NATO and the United States formally sign off on an agreement that Ukraine will never be offered membership in the treaty organization. If he’s moved more than 100,000 troops near Ukraine’s borders, one might assume that such a membership deal was in the offing, right? But Burns argues that not only is Ukraine not currently in the process of seeking membership, but NATO is unlikely to approve such an application in the foreseeable future, if ever. But is that really true?
At the core of the Ukraine crisis is a puzzle: Why would Russian President Vladimir Putin push Europe to the brink of war to demand the West not do something that it has no plan to do anyway?
Russia says NATO, the American-led alliance that has on its hands the biggest European crisis in decades, must never offer membership to Ukraine, which gained independence as the Soviet Union broke apart about 30 years ago. Ukraine has long aspired to join NATO, but the alliance is not about to offer an invitation, due in part to Ukraine’s official corruption, shortcomings in its defense establishment, and its lack of control over its international borders.
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Post by Opti on Mar 7, 2022 0:43:48 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/two-ukrainian-children-killed-in-front-of-my-own-eyes-while-trying-to-evacuate-official-says/ar-AAUHI5Q?ocid=msedgntpRussian forces fired mortar shells on Sunday in a town in the outskirts of Kyiv, sending panicked residents running for their lives and killing at least eight people, including a family, according to a local government official.
Irpin Mayor Alexandar Markushin said in a video Sunday that Russian troops shelled the town’s residents as they were preparing to evacuate by bus to nearby cities.
“The shell hit, and in front of my own eyes died two small children and two adults,” he said. “I want to emphasize these were peaceful residents.”
Photographs and videos from journalists on the ground showed harrowing images of several people — including two children — sprawled on the ground moments after the attack. A gray roller suitcase eerily stood next to the lifeless bodies.
There are of course other stories, like a woman 26yrs old who went to a dog shelter to deliver supplies and did not come home. The bullet ridden car was found.
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Post by Opti on Mar 7, 2022 0:52:14 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ukrainian-woman-dies-after-her-car-was-shot-in-close-range-in-bucha/ar-AAUFSc5?ocid=msedgntpAyoung Ukrainian recruiter was shot and killed in her car by suspected Russian forces as she was on her way back from delivering food to a local dog shelter outside of Kyiv. Anastasiia Yalanskaya, 26, was one of three volunteers who made the dangerous trek to a local dog shelter in Bucha - 18 miles outside of Kyiv and close to Ipren, where many have begun evacuating- when her car was deliberately targeted by Russian forces on Thursday with 'heavy weaponry', her family said. Her last Instagram story on March 3 showed her sitting in the back of the vehicle, surrounded by bags of dog food. It is unknown if her car was targeted, but her friends and family believe Russian troops are taking aim at more civilians. As of March 4, approximately 1,000 Ukrainian civilians have died since Vladimir Putin unleashed war on the neighboring country. Her friend Anastasiia Hryshchenko, who evacuated to Vinnytsia, had been in constant contact with Yalanskaya and had contacted one of the other volunteers when she had heard from her in several hours. He informed her he found the car near one of the volunteers' homes and they didn't make it. Her car was found not far from her home, covered in bullets and her body was taken to a nearby morgue.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 7, 2022 11:12:34 GMT -5
For some reason I don't see any Russian basketball teams playing on the international stage any time soon. She does not play for Russia in any international competitions. She plays for the U.S.A. Women's National Team. She primarily plays for the Phoenix Mercury (I believe) in the WNBA, but because women players in the WNBA make only a small fraction of what NBA players make, many also play overseas during the WNBA offseason. Some play in Russia, but that does not at all mean that they play FOR Russia. When the woman's league draws a consistant full stadium of fans every game and sign a huge television network package to subsidize their annual salaries they want, they will not have to go "where the money is". As of now we have professional men's basketball players who are on the fringe of staying in the NBA or hoping they will be spotted by NBA scouts and signed to an NBA team play in many of the old Soviet bloc countries as well as all over Europe. In fact for the men, there is a limit to the number of foreign players a team can have. Not sure about the women and if there is a limit.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 7, 2022 11:16:57 GMT -5
Putin's point is what? I can bomb civilians, healthcare facilities, and nuclear facilities? Zelensky is a former actor and comedian, I don't expect him to be fully up on his country's history. Why are the Russian convoys stuck? Besides the media, who says the convoy is stuck? Im expecting an elected official to have some knowledge of what he’s talking about. Zelensky is one of the signatories of the 2017 law that prohibited studying in any other language than Ukrainian. He should now that not just yap stupid nonsense! Putin’s point is that he doesn’t care, that you should stick to your deals or support the consequences. It’s all equal to him. What was bombed in Kyiv were targets of military/ strategic importance. I don’t think there was a hospital in there but anything is possible. That’s war for you! I sort of wonder if this convoy was some sort of diversion to keep Ukraine placing forces to the north pulling men from the easterna and southern flank of the Russian attack. Would it be possible this convoy is meant to sit there until most of the country is captured by Russia before moving in? Am I giving Putin too much credit
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 7, 2022 11:25:31 GMT -5
I’ve watched a few short videos with Putin in press conferences and such since the whole Ukrainian ordeal started. He was asked bluntly “why?” From what I gathered, he’s kinda pissed at all the former Warsaw treaty countries that already joined NATO. Apparently, in the 90s when the treaty was dissolved, all members of the treaty agreed NOT to join NATO but they could be affiliate members. All is based on maintaining a military balance of power. Since Ukraine declared intentions of joining NATO, that was kinda the last string that it could be plucked! If Ukraine is to join NATO then Ukraine will do it as Ukraine and not as the federation of little countries that creates what we know today as Ukraine. The biggest plot/part of Ukraine that always had a claim to independence from Ukraine is Zaporojie which is basically bigger than Ukraine originally was so that would be a good hit, just about halving the territories of Ukraine. That’s also the area where most of the nuclear plants are placed- easy access to water for the cooling systems, strategical position for the distribution of electricity, etc. Praise Zelensky all you want but I personally dislike the man after the remarks that he had made lately about the territories inhabited by other than Ukrainian nations. He declared that Romanians invaded Ukraine long time ago and that’s why some of the territories speak Romanian which gave them the basis in 2017 to ban studying in any other language besides Ukrainian. The man is either re-writing history or he doesn’t know it at all! As soon as Putin proves his point, he will stop advancement and is possible that he will hold onto the gained terrains. And no, I do not believe any of the claims that “500 Russian special forces were killed by civilians” or “Russian convoys are stuck because they ran out of fuel” and the likes. But that’s just me! you think that justifies an invasion? the 90s was 30 fucking years ago. Was Ukraine suppose to be held to that "idea" for 1000 years? you think that bullshit excuse in any way justifies bombing civilian targets, killing children? Shame on you! Europe, Russia and even China have long memories. Thirty years is a drop in the bucket. This is where mroped coming from. Britain still has disagreements over their history going back to thr Magna Carta. Yeh some hyperbole on that last sentence, but they think it terms of 100 years. Besides, liberals here hold people to positions they had fifty years ago and many people here have no problem with doxing them for it, just because they know they cannot imprision them these days because" we are civilized".
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Post by Opti on Mar 7, 2022 11:40:22 GMT -5
She does not play for Russia in any international competitions. She plays for the U.S.A. Women's National Team. She primarily plays for the Phoenix Mercury (I believe) in the WNBA, but because women players in the WNBA make only a small fraction of what NBA players make, many also play overseas during the WNBA offseason. Some play in Russia, but that does not at all mean that they play FOR Russia. When the woman's league draws a consistant full stadium of fans every game and sign a huge television network package to subsidize their annual salaries they want, they will not have to go "where the money is". As of now we have professional men's basketball players who are on the fringe of staying in the NBA or hoping they will be spotted by NBA scouts and signed to an NBA team play in many of the old Soviet bloc countries as well as all over Europe. In fact for the men, there is a limit to the number of foreign players a team can have. Not sure about the women and if there is a limit. Male NBA players often play in Italy and other places when they are first starting out. Part of the problem is TV does not want to give most women's sports a break, so it is hard to even see championship play whether its NCAA Women's basketball, Women's soccer, or WNBA. I see the New York Liberty play in Brooklyn which isn't nearby. I would rather see them though than the nearby minor league baseball team.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 7, 2022 11:54:05 GMT -5
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 7, 2022 11:55:54 GMT -5
seems europe and us are supply Ukraine with fire power - with all the economic and political sanctions, that kind seems very close to us being at war. Where does the line stand?
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Post by tallguy on Mar 7, 2022 12:00:04 GMT -5
She does not play for Russia in any international competitions. She plays for the U.S.A. Women's National Team. She primarily plays for the Phoenix Mercury (I believe) in the WNBA, but because women players in the WNBA make only a small fraction of what NBA players make, many also play overseas during the WNBA offseason. Some play in Russia, but that does not at all mean that they play FOR Russia. When the woman's league draws a consistant full stadium of fans every game and sign a huge television network package to subsidize their annual salaries they want, they will not have to go "where the money is". As of now we have professional men's basketball players who are on the fringe of staying in the NBA or hoping they will be spotted by NBA scouts and signed to an NBA team play in many of the old Soviet bloc countries as well as all over Europe. In fact for the men, there is a limit to the number of foreign players a team can have. Not sure about the women and if there is a limit. I'm aware. During my time years ago I practiced with a professional team in Mexico. I have played with and against players who went over and played with teams in Europe, Asia, and South America. As far as salaries in this country, the "supermax" salary for WNBA players is now around $228,000 per year. Most players earn far less, with even some star players under $100,000. The NBA minimum for someone coming into the league who has never played in an NBA game is over $900,000, while the minimum for a 10-year veteran is over $2.6 million. For individual teams, the NBA salary cap is projected to rise to around $121 million for next season, although they can go higher if they want to pay a "luxury tax." For WNBA teams it will be around $1.4 million, or less than the minimum for one second-year NBA player. Griner herself is on a supermax deal, so made over $220,000 this season. Nice, but not a lot when you consider how short athletes' careers can be.
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www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ukrainian-woman-dies-after-her-car-was-shot-in-close-range-in-bucha/ar-AAUFSc5?ocid=msedgntpA young Ukrainian recruiter was shot and killed in her car by suspected Russian forces as she was on her way back from delivering food to a local dog shelter outside of Kyiv. Anastasiia Yalanskaya, 26, was one of three volunteers who made the dangerous trek to a local dog shelter in Bucha - 18 miles outside of Kyiv and close to Ipren, where many have begun evacuating- when her car was deliberately targeted by Russian forces on Thursday with 'heavy weaponry', her family said. Her last Instagram story on March 3 showed her sitting in the back of the vehicle, surrounded by bags of dog food. It is unknown if her car was targeted, but her friends and family believe Russian troops are taking aim at more civilians. As of March 4, approximately 1,000 Ukrainian civilians have died since Vladimir Putin unleashed war on the neighboring country. Her friend Anastasiia Hryshchenko, who evacuated to Vinnytsia, had been in constant contact with Yalanskaya and had contacted one of the other volunteers when she had heard from her in several hours. He informed her he found the car near one of the volunteers' homes and they didn't make it. Her car was found not far from her home, covered in bullets and her body was taken to a nearby morgue.
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Post by azucena on Mar 7, 2022 12:19:35 GMT -5
She does not play for Russia in any international competitions. She plays for the U.S.A. Women's National Team. She primarily plays for the Phoenix Mercury (I believe) in the WNBA, but because women players in the WNBA make only a small fraction of what NBA players make, many also play overseas during the WNBA offseason. Some play in Russia, but that does not at all mean that they play FOR Russia. When the woman's league draws a consistant full stadium of fans every game and sign a huge television network package to subsidize their annual salaries they want, they will not have to go "where the money is". As of now we have professional men's basketball players who are on the fringe of staying in the NBA or hoping they will be spotted by NBA scouts and signed to an NBA team play in many of the old Soviet bloc countries as well as all over Europe. In fact for the men, there is a limit to the number of foreign players a team can have. Not sure about the women and if there is a limit. Oh goody, a mansplaining about women's salaries. That's a topic I've missed.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 7, 2022 12:39:17 GMT -5
She does not play for Russia in any international competitions. She plays for the U.S.A. Women's National Team. She primarily plays for the Phoenix Mercury (I believe) in the WNBA, but because women players in the WNBA make only a small fraction of what NBA players make, many also play overseas during the WNBA offseason. Some play in Russia, but that does not at all mean that they play FOR Russia. When the woman's league draws a consistant full stadium of fans every game and sign a huge television network package to subsidize their annual salaries they want, they will not have to go "where the money is". As of now we have professional men's basketball players who are on the fringe of staying in the NBA or hoping they will be spotted by NBA scouts and signed to an NBA team play in many of the old Soviet bloc countries as well as all over Europe. In fact for the men, there is a limit to the number of foreign players a team can have. Not sure about the women and if there is a limit. I saw the pistons maybe 10 years ago, just because I was in town and tickets were $5 or $6. The stadium wasn't full even then.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 7, 2022 15:07:50 GMT -5
When the woman's league draws a consistant full stadium of fans every game and sign a huge television network package to subsidize their annual salaries they want, they will not have to go "where the money is". As of now we have professional men's basketball players who are on the fringe of staying in the NBA or hoping they will be spotted by NBA scouts and signed to an NBA team play in many of the old Soviet bloc countries as well as all over Europe. In fact for the men, there is a limit to the number of foreign players a team can have. Not sure about the women and if there is a limit. Male NBA players often play in Italy and other places when they are first starting out. Part of the problem is TV does not want to give most women's sports a break, so it is hard to even see championship play whether its NCAA Women's basketball, Women's soccer, or WNBA. I see the New York Liberty play in Brooklyn which isn't nearby. I would rather see them though than the nearby minor league baseball team. is that it? or is it because televised sports is driven by hyper-masculinity?
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 7, 2022 15:08:36 GMT -5
my understanding is that this is precisely the case. war is bad for their income. the question then becomes how much power and control do they have?
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Post by Spellbound454 on Mar 7, 2022 17:37:55 GMT -5
The line is if its a European or US person who is firing the weapon at Russia. ie we can give them planes but we can't fly them.
Whoa.... thats deep. There are many different forms of government. Not everyone wants a democracy and they are happy with what they have got. We can't force it on other people if they don't want it.
Only one thing is for certain and that is.... all empires fall.... eventually.
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Post by Opti on Mar 7, 2022 17:52:15 GMT -5
Male NBA players often play in Italy and other places when they are first starting out. Part of the problem is TV does not want to give most women's sports a break, so it is hard to even see championship play whether its NCAA Women's basketball, Women's soccer, or WNBA. I see the New York Liberty play in Brooklyn which isn't nearby. I would rather see them though than the nearby minor league baseball team. is that it? or is it because televised sports is driven by hyper-masculinity? IDK. I don't see golf as being particularly masculine, but it is a business game and a sport. I personally love volleyball and wish I could see more college or higher level of volleyball team play. Women's basketball is considered more of a thinking game than mens. Football is definitely glorified more in this country than most sports. If it were pure hyper masculinity, shouldn't we be watching more weightlifting and strength competitions? Then there is the betting culture which is getting too much play IMO in commercials here. Football is made for betting and maybe men just don't want to bet on women's sports?
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 7, 2022 18:49:09 GMT -5
Polish mothers have been leaving their strollers at Polish train stations for any Ukrainian mothers who had to abandon their children's strollers as they fled Ukraine. Kind gesture.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 7, 2022 19:22:12 GMT -5
thanks tenn, so heart warming.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 7, 2022 22:02:31 GMT -5
thanks tenn, so heart warming. Kindness is abounding for the families of Ukraine.
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