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Post by tbop77 on May 7, 2022 9:35:51 GMT -5
“You need — it seems to me, excuse the lecture — to concentrate on what the news is today,” Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, said on Tuesday. “Not a leaked draft but the fact that the draft was leaked.” Republicans are talking about abortion, just not openly. A document circulated by the National Republican Senatorial Committee and obtained by Axios urged candidates to be low-key about the issue, with a post-Roe America looming as early as next month. “Abortion should be avoided as much as possible,” the document advised candidates to say. “States should have the flexibility to implement reasonable restrictions.” www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-recast-abortion-stance-wary-of-voter-backlash/ar-AAX0oal?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=99a73289639942f3ad902ebd9586cda4I have to wonder why avoid the issue they so wanted to happen. One would think they would be taking a victory lap. Mitch got his Supreme Court and they are doing exactly what he wanted. Seems like good mid-term advertising to me!
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Post by happyhoix on May 7, 2022 10:35:48 GMT -5
“You need — it seems to me, excuse the lecture — to concentrate on what the news is today,” Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, said on Tuesday. “Not a leaked draft but the fact that the draft was leaked.” Republicans are talking about abortion, just not openly. A document circulated by the National Republican Senatorial Committee and obtained by Axios urged candidates to be low-key about the issue, with a post-Roe America looming as early as next month. “Abortion should be avoided as much as possible,” the document advised candidates to say. “States should have the flexibility to implement reasonable restrictions.” www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-recast-abortion-stance-wary-of-voter-backlash/ar-AAX0oal?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=99a73289639942f3ad902ebd9586cda4I have to wonder why avoid the issue they so wanted to happen. One would think they would be taking a victory lap. Mitch got his Supreme Court and they are doing exactly what he wanted. Seems like good mid-term advertising to me! The GOP never really wanted to reverse Roe vs Wade. They talked about reversing it a lot, in order to pull in the evangelical voters, but didn’t have any intention of actually attempting to overthrow a 50 year old ruling, as that almost never happens. But Trump loaded the SC with radical right leaning judges who may actually reverse a ruling that 70 percent of the country believes was right to begin with - women should be able to chose to have an abortion, at least in the first trimester. McConnell is the ultimate politician. He always knows where the votes lie. If the GOP struts around crowing about how they packed the court to reverse Roe, they will certainly please the 30% of the MAGA/far right crowd that wanted to reverse it, but will also cause all the pro-choice voters, including a lot of young people who maybe didn’t bother to get out to vote in the past, to actually go to the polls. McConnell knows he has to get a big chunk of the independent voters to win in the midterms, and in 2024. So the GOP has to downplay this. The GOP needs the big issue in the midterm has to be the high inflation rate, not Roe. That’s their path to success (unless they go all in on trying to cheat the system, which is a possibility).
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Post by happyhoix on May 7, 2022 10:45:39 GMT -5
So the judge reviewing whether Margery Taylor Greene is an insurrectionist said there wasn’t enough evidence to keep her off the ticket, but has passed her case to the final judge, Raffensburger. The GA Secretary of State. It’s in this link, but you have to scroll down past some talk about freshwater sources: www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-judge-for-the-marjorie-taylor-greene-hearing-tossed-the-hot-potato-into-interesting-hands/ar-AAX0rK8?li=BBnb7KzThis is the guy that taped Trump demanding the GA SOS ‘find him’ 11,000 extra votes so he could put Georgia in the ‘win’ column in the 2020 election. There’s currently a trial starting in Atlanta to determine if Trump is guilty of attempting to cheat the vote (he is). Trump has declared war on Raffensburger, as well as Kemp, the GA governor, who Trump blamed for him losing GA, although the governor has zip to do with vote counting. Will the SOS be a dutiful Republican and allow Greene to stay on the ballot for her district, or will he find that she is, indeed, an insurrectionist and needs to be removed? I think he’d like to remove her to fuck with Trump, but as the article author points out, he’s running for office himself, and if he says Greene can’t run, he’d lose all the GOP votes from the north part of the state. Too bad. I’d love to see the shit show that would start, if he kept her off the ballot.
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Post by billisonboard on May 7, 2022 10:52:11 GMT -5
So the judge reviewing whether Margery Taylor Greene is an insurrectionist said there wasn’t enough evidence to keep her off the ticket, but has passed her case to the final judge, Raffensburger. The GA Secretary of State. It’s in this link, but you have to scroll down past some talk about freshwater sources: www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-judge-for-the-marjorie-taylor-greene-hearing-tossed-the-hot-potato-into-interesting-hands/ar-AAX0rK8?li=BBnb7KzThis is the guy that taped Trump demanding the GA SOS ‘find him’ 11,000 extra votes so he could put Georgia in the ‘win’ column in the 2020 election. There’s currently a trial starting in Atlanta to determine if Trump is guilty of attempting to cheat the vote (he is). Trump has declared war on Raffensburger, as well as Kemp, the GA governor, who Trump blamed for him losing GA, although the governor has zip to do with vote counting. Will the SOS be a dutiful Republican and allow Greene to stay on the ballot for her district, or will he find that she is, indeed, an insurrectionist and needs to be removed? I think he’d like to remove her to fuck with Trump, but as the article author points out, he’s running for office himself, and if he says Greene can’t run, he’d lose all the GOP votes from the north part of the state. Too bad. I’d love to see the shit show that would start, if he kept her off the ballot. The judge looked at evidence against Greene and announced he did not see enough. Trump ..., Trump ..., Trump ..., So Raffensburger should remove her?
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Post by Mardi Gras Audrey on May 7, 2022 11:05:58 GMT -5
MTG was on a local PBS today in a debate with five other GOP hopefuls for the Georgia primary. Greene was loud, obnoxious and when one of the other candidates questioned why she was spending so much time traveling around to different states to rallies for candidates in those states (rather than working on issues that impact our district) she condescendingly lectured him about how the money she used to travel to different states wasn’t taxpayer dollars (She didn’t address how much of her time she wasted on it though). Predictably, she was the only person who tried to start a fight and the only person who got threatened with shutting off her microphone when she wouldn’t stop bitching. I have a little more hope for the GOP though. WHen the six candidates were asked if they believed Biden won the 2020 election, HALF said he won. Only two of the six (Greene of course, and one other guy) asserted Trump won and was cheated. Of the three who said Biden one, two of them said very plainly, there was no giant fraud, Biden is president, we need to get over 2020 and look at what we need to do in 2022 2024. That made me feel a little better. Greene was especially going after the other female candidate (She must be polling highest in the pack) and got pretty nasty with her, but the other lady didn’t lose her composure, and said she wasn’t running for office, she was running against the current office holder, Ms. Greene (that was when Greene almost got her microphone cut off, if I remember right). So I looked at the current polling numbers - Greene is at 60 % and the female candidate (Jennifer Strahan) was at 30, but when the poll listed some of the things Green has done, like being anti-Semitic, Greene’s number went to 41%. So if Strahan gets out more commercials and fliers listing what a jerk Greene is, she might have a shot. Fingers crossed. jewishinsider.com/2022/01/marjorie-taylor-greene-jennifer-strahan-poll-georgia-congress/You are in the area, correct? Don’t most of the voters there know what a jerk Greene is? Is it covered in the local news? What is the opinion of her from the people in that area that you have seen/heard?
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Post by djAdvocate on May 7, 2022 13:03:31 GMT -5
“You need — it seems to me, excuse the lecture — to concentrate on what the news is today,” Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, said on Tuesday. “Not a leaked draft but the fact that the draft was leaked.” Republicans are talking about abortion, just not openly. A document circulated by the National Republican Senatorial Committee and obtained by Axios urged candidates to be low-key about the issue, with a post-Roe America looming as early as next month. “Abortion should be avoided as much as possible,” the document advised candidates to say. “States should have the flexibility to implement reasonable restrictions.” www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-recast-abortion-stance-wary-of-voter-backlash/ar-AAX0oal?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=99a73289639942f3ad902ebd9586cda4I have to wonder why avoid the issue they so wanted to happen. One would think they would be taking a victory lap. Mitch got his Supreme Court and they are doing exactly what he wanted. Seems like good mid-term advertising to me! this idea crossed my mind, as well. he and other Republicans have worked THIRTY YEARS to make this happen. why should they not be delighted to tell voters about their achievement? could it be that they sold their souls to a vocal but quite effective minority, who they want to keep USING for their votes, but really have no fundamental interest in? that would be craven, wouldn't it?
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Post by djAdvocate on May 7, 2022 13:05:20 GMT -5
“You need — it seems to me, excuse the lecture — to concentrate on what the news is today,” Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, said on Tuesday. “Not a leaked draft but the fact that the draft was leaked.” Republicans are talking about abortion, just not openly. A document circulated by the National Republican Senatorial Committee and obtained by Axios urged candidates to be low-key about the issue, with a post-Roe America looming as early as next month. “Abortion should be avoided as much as possible,” the document advised candidates to say. “States should have the flexibility to implement reasonable restrictions.” www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-recast-abortion-stance-wary-of-voter-backlash/ar-AAX0oal?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=99a73289639942f3ad902ebd9586cda4I have to wonder why avoid the issue they so wanted to happen. One would think they would be taking a victory lap. Mitch got his Supreme Court and they are doing exactly what he wanted. Seems like good mid-term advertising to me! The GOP never really wanted to reverse Roe vs Wade. of course they didn't. five of the seven who voted in favor of Roe were Republican appointees. Republicans have always been for body autonomy, until Reagan signed his pact with the religious right. since then, they have had a confusing relationship with them.
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Post by happyhoix on May 7, 2022 20:20:45 GMT -5
So the judge reviewing whether Margery Taylor Greene is an insurrectionist said there wasn’t enough evidence to keep her off the ticket, but has passed her case to the final judge, Raffensburger. The GA Secretary of State. It’s in this link, but you have to scroll down past some talk about freshwater sources: www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-judge-for-the-marjorie-taylor-greene-hearing-tossed-the-hot-potato-into-interesting-hands/ar-AAX0rK8?li=BBnb7KzThis is the guy that taped Trump demanding the GA SOS ‘find him’ 11,000 extra votes so he could put Georgia in the ‘win’ column in the 2020 election. There’s currently a trial starting in Atlanta to determine if Trump is guilty of attempting to cheat the vote (he is). Trump has declared war on Raffensburger, as well as Kemp, the GA governor, who Trump blamed for him losing GA, although the governor has zip to do with vote counting. Will the SOS be a dutiful Republican and allow Greene to stay on the ballot for her district, or will he find that she is, indeed, an insurrectionist and needs to be removed? I think he’d like to remove her to fuck with Trump, but as the article author points out, he’s running for office himself, and if he says Greene can’t run, he’d lose all the GOP votes from the north part of the state. Too bad. I’d love to see the shit show that would start, if he kept her off the ballot. The judge looked at evidence against Greene and announced he did not see enough. Trump ..., Trump ..., Trump ..., So Raffensburger should remove her? Sorry I wasn’t more clear. Trump has been horrible to Raffensburger, because Raffensburger didn’t cave to Trump and find more votes for him in the 2020 election, and Trump blames him for Trump losing GA. Raffensburger has a unique opportunity to pay Trump back for being such an ass to him, by determining Greene isn’t qualified to be on the 2022 ballot for her district seat. However as much as he might want to do that, he can’t because he needs GOP voters from north GA to vote for him against the candidate Trump is backing. Just an observation about the funny turns life makes.
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Post by happyhoix on May 7, 2022 20:27:40 GMT -5
MTG was on a local PBS today in a debate with five other GOP hopefuls for the Georgia primary. Greene was loud, obnoxious and when one of the other candidates questioned why she was spending so much time traveling around to different states to rallies for candidates in those states (rather than working on issues that impact our district) she condescendingly lectured him about how the money she used to travel to different states wasn’t taxpayer dollars (She didn’t address how much of her time she wasted on it though). Predictably, she was the only person who tried to start a fight and the only person who got threatened with shutting off her microphone when she wouldn’t stop bitching. I have a little more hope for the GOP though. WHen the six candidates were asked if they believed Biden won the 2020 election, HALF said he won. Only two of the six (Greene of course, and one other guy) asserted Trump won and was cheated. Of the three who said Biden one, two of them said very plainly, there was no giant fraud, Biden is president, we need to get over 2020 and look at what we need to do in 2022 2024. That made me feel a little better. Greene was especially going after the other female candidate (She must be polling highest in the pack) and got pretty nasty with her, but the other lady didn’t lose her composure, and said she wasn’t running for office, she was running against the current office holder, Ms. Greene (that was when Greene almost got her microphone cut off, if I remember right). So I looked at the current polling numbers - Greene is at 60 % and the female candidate (Jennifer Strahan) was at 30, but when the poll listed some of the things Green has done, like being anti-Semitic, Greene’s number went to 41%. So if Strahan gets out more commercials and fliers listing what a jerk Greene is, she might have a shot. Fingers crossed. jewishinsider.com/2022/01/marjorie-taylor-greene-jennifer-strahan-poll-georgia-congress/You are in the area, correct? Don’t most of the voters there know what a jerk Greene is? Is it covered in the local news? What is the opinion of her from the people in that area that you have seen/heard? Yes, she’s my rep. Sad to say. Locals LOVE her. They think she’s a true patriot. They think she stands up to all the east coast snobs and commie libs. I honestly don’t think most of them know about her Jewish space laser comments, her calling Catholics satanists, or that she considers joining the military a waste of your life. I also think most of them either don’t know or don’t care that she can’t actually do much for this district because she’s been booted off the committees. My SIL, who think she’s fabulous, like the fact that Greene is helping to make sure congress gets nothing done - SIL thinks it’s better to get nothing done than to continue to allow the commie libs to move anything forward. Greene is up around 70% approval in the polls. Our best chance is to vote for another GOP person in the primary to defeat her there; I like the main Dem running against her, but he’s black and a commie dem so realistically I don’t think he has a chance. Unfortunately.
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Post by billisonboard on May 7, 2022 20:47:33 GMT -5
The judge looked at evidence against Greene and announced he did not see enough. Trump ..., Trump ..., Trump ..., So Raffensburger should remove her? Sorry I wasn’t more clear. Trump has been horrible to Raffensburger, because Raffensburger didn’t cave to Trump and find more votes for him in the 2020 election, and Trump blames him for Trump losing GA. Raffensburger has a unique opportunity to pay Trump back for being such an ass to him, by determining Greene isn’t qualified to be on the 2022 ballot for her district seat. However as much as he might want to do that, he can’t because he needs GOP voters from north GA to vote for him against the candidate Trump is backing. Just an observation about the funny turns life makes. I don't see how keeping Greene off the ballot is payback to Trump. Why would he care?
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Post by Mardi Gras Audrey on May 7, 2022 22:04:58 GMT -5
You are in the area, correct? Don’t most of the voters there know what a jerk Greene is? Is it covered in the local news? What is the opinion of her from the people in that area that you have seen/heard? Yes, she’s my rep. Sad to say. Locals LOVE her. They think she’s a true patriot. They think she stands up to all the east coast snobs and commie libs. I honestly don’t think most of them know about her Jewish space laser comments, her calling Catholics satanists, or that she considers joining the military a waste of your life. I also think most of them either don’t know or don’t care that she can’t actually do much for this district because she’s been booted off the committees. My SIL, who think she’s fabulous, like the fact that Greene is helping to make sure congress gets nothing done - SIL thinks it’s better to get nothing done than to continue to allow the commie libs to move anything forward. Greene is up around 70% approval in the polls. Our best chance is to vote for another GOP person in the primary to defeat her there; I like the main Dem running against her, but he’s black and a commie dem so realistically I don’t think he has a chance. Unfortunately. Wow... that is sad. I’m guessing that they don’t realize that they shouldn’t be complaining about the govt not doing anything from them when they are essentially hiring a rep to do nothing/act like a road block. Do u guys have a lot of Catholics in that area? Do you think people knowing about the Catholics bring satanist and military opinions would make a difference with any of the voters? I appreciate your information and candor about what is going on down there.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 8, 2022 2:09:12 GMT -5
Sorry I wasn’t more clear. Trump has been horrible to Raffensburger, because Raffensburger didn’t cave to Trump and find more votes for him in the 2020 election, and Trump blames him for Trump losing GA. Raffensburger has a unique opportunity to pay Trump back for being such an ass to him, by determining Greene isn’t qualified to be on the 2022 ballot for her district seat. However as much as he might want to do that, he can’t because he needs GOP voters from north GA to vote for him against the candidate Trump is backing. Just an observation about the funny turns life makes. I don't see how keeping Greene off the ballot is payback to Trump. Why would he care? MTG is one of his most ardent and vocal supporters. it is not like he has a high profile army of such people. if you are saying he is so self absorbed that he doesn't notice, i think i am going to have to disagree with you, there.
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Post by Opti on May 8, 2022 8:47:33 GMT -5
Looks like someone is reaping the fruit of accusing his elders of sex and drug orgies. Not sure how I got to the video late last night, but it was creepy. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/far-right-gop-rep-madison-cawthorn-faces-multiple-fresh-scandals/ar-AAX1TaA?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=32632aacb1f649198066d79ead82ab08Controversial Republican Congressman Madison Cawthorn has been hit by yet another set of scandals, this time with a video clip being shared over social media that allegedly depicted him as a younger man in bed naked with another man as well as giving a close relative and adviser over $141,000 in funds from taxpayers and campaign donors, US media has reported.
The first scandal, that of the naked video, emerged earlier last week and seemed to be a shocking blow against the 26-year-old North Carolina lawmaker, who has been extremely vocal in the past about his devout and traditional Christian beliefs and has urged the US government to uphold Christian principles.
"A new hit against me just dropped," he tweeted. "Years ago, in this video, I was being crass with a friend, trying to be funny. We were acting foolish, and joking.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 8, 2022 8:50:25 GMT -5
Yeah, that’s it. Young men always joke around that way/s
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Post by billisonboard on May 8, 2022 8:56:03 GMT -5
I don't see how keeping Greene off the ballot is payback to Trump. Why would he care? MTG is one of his most ardent and vocal supporters. it is not like he has a high profile army of such people. if you are saying he is so self absorbed that he doesn't notice, i think i am going to have to disagree with you, there. He doesn't lose either way. She will continue to be an ardent and vocal supporter whether she is on the ballot or not. Being the jilted candidate would actually make her more valuable as a symbol of how far people will go to attack the most important person in the world, i.e. Donald J. Trump. (The seat in the House will go to a person who supports him legislatively anyway so that isn't a factor.)
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Yes, she’s my rep. Sad to say. Locals LOVE her. They think she’s a true patriot. They think she stands up to all the east coast snobs and commie libs. I honestly don’t think most of them know about her Jewish space laser comments, her calling Catholics satanists, or that she considers joining the military a waste of your life. I also think most of them either don’t know or don’t care that she can’t actually do much for this district because she’s been booted off the committees. My SIL, who think she’s fabulous, like the fact that Greene is helping to make sure congress gets nothing done - SIL thinks it’s better to get nothing done than to continue to allow the commie libs to move anything forward. Greene is up around 70% approval in the polls. Our best chance is to vote for another GOP person in the primary to defeat her there; I like the main Dem running against her, but he’s black and a commie dem so realistically I don’t think he has a chance. Unfortunately. Wow... that is sad. I’m guessing that they don’t realize that they shouldn’t be complaining about the govt not doing anything from them when they are essentially hiring a rep to do nothing/act like a road block. Do u guys have a lot of Catholics in that area? Do you think people knowing about the Catholics bring satanist and military opinions would make a difference with any of the voters? I appreciate your information and candor about what is going on down there. In my nook of this district, there is one very small Catholic chapel (maybe 150 members?) a few national Protestant churches (like the Methodists) and many Pentecostal/evangelical church’s. We had one Jewish person working at one of the clinics for a while, and someone spray painted swastikas on the side of it. I’m not joking about that. The population is about 90% white. This is primarily a rural area, and a lot of the younger people leave after HS - the most recent census showed we were down about 1000 people, but there was a discussion in our little paper that we probably haven’t lost that much - the county leaders stated that we have a large chunk of people who ‘do not trust the government’ and probably refused to respond to the census so remained uncounted. It does benefit by being within commuting distance of a small city, many of the residents work there. The GOP tried to water down the Democratic support around Atlanta by changing this district to include some of the Atlanta suburbs, which have been turning more blue with each recent election, so if you look at the entire district and not just my county, it has become slightly less white and conservative, but not enough to get rid of Greene, IMHO. I think if the voters in this county knew more of the ignorant, polarizing things Greene has said, and if they really understood that she was kicked out of committees and what that means to our county, some of them would not vote for her, but unfortunately there are many people here like my SIL who refuse to watch any news (even local news) other than FOX, and if you mention any of her egregious comments they simply reply ‘fake news’ or ‘lame stream media.’ And if you wonder why we live here - 25 years ago when our son was in elementary school this area appealed to us as being safe, rural, with a school system that was well funded by the GA lottery, including paying his college tuition. It seemed like Mayberry. Now that we’re close to retirement, we’re looking to relocate someplace less cultish.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 8, 2022 12:11:09 GMT -5
MTG is one of his most ardent and vocal supporters. it is not like he has a high profile army of such people. if you are saying he is so self absorbed that he doesn't notice, i think i am going to have to disagree with you, there. He doesn't lose either way. She will continue to be an ardent and vocal supporter whether she is on the ballot or not. Being the jilted candidate would actually make her more valuable as a symbol of how far people will go to attack the most important person in the world, i.e. Donald J. Trump. (The seat in the House will go to a person who supports him legislatively anyway so that isn't a factor.) so you are saying he doesn't care about the "take down"? if so, i have to consider that. but fair warning, it takes me time to get my head into that space.
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Post by billisonboard on May 8, 2022 12:37:38 GMT -5
He doesn't lose either way. She will continue to be an ardent and vocal supporter whether she is on the ballot or not. Being the jilted candidate would actually make her more valuable as a symbol of how far people will go to attack the most important person in the world, i.e. Donald J. Trump. (The seat in the House will go to a person who supports him legislatively anyway so that isn't a factor.) so you are saying he doesn't care about the "take down"? if so, i have to consider that. but fair warning, it takes me time to get my head into that space. The original claim was "Raffensburger has a unique opportunity to pay Trump back ..." I am saying that nothing that Raffensburger could do in regards to Greene would cost Trump anything. He doesn't care personally about what happens to her and he will use whatever happens in the way he sees as playing to his political advantage.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 8, 2022 13:04:27 GMT -5
so you are saying he doesn't care about the "take down"? if so, i have to consider that. but fair warning, it takes me time to get my head into that space. The original claim was "Raffensburger has a unique opportunity to pay Trump back ..." I am saying that nothing that Raffensburger could do in regards to Greene would cost Trump anything. He doesn't care personally about what happens to her and he will use whatever happens in the way he sees as playing to his political advantage. i think the word "care" is tripping me up. we are not talking about "care" in the way that parents care for children, or that an empathetic person might care for an injured animal. i was using "care" as "pay attention to". in TRUMPS case, the word "care" is interchangeable with "will benefit from, and therefore is paying attention to". he is incapable of "concern" as we generally think of it. thus, i think he cares deeply about what happens to Greene, but not insofar as it may ruin her life. rather, because it will improve his.
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Post by billisonboard on May 8, 2022 13:11:48 GMT -5
The original claim was "Raffensburger has a unique opportunity to pay Trump back ..." I am saying that nothing that Raffensburger could do in regards to Greene would cost Trump anything. He doesn't care personally about what happens to her and he will use whatever happens in the way he sees as playing to his political advantage. i think the word "care" is tripping me up. we are not talking about "care" in the way that parents care for children, or that an empathetic person might care for an injured animal. i was using "care" as "pay attention to". in TRUMPS case, the word "care" is interchangeable with "will benefit from, and therefore is paying attention to". he is incapable of "concern" as we generally think of it. thus, i think he cares deeply about what happens to Greene, but not insofar as it may ruin her life. rather, because it will improve his. I can see how the way you use the word "care" would trip you up in understanding my point.
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Post by happyhoix on May 8, 2022 13:50:32 GMT -5
MTG is one of his most ardent and vocal supporters. it is not like he has a high profile army of such people. if you are saying he is so self absorbed that he doesn't notice, i think i am going to have to disagree with you, there. He doesn't lose either way. She will continue to be an ardent and vocal supporter whether she is on the ballot or not. Being the jilted candidate would actually make her more valuable as a symbol of how far people will go to attack the most important person in the world, i.e. Donald J. Trump. (The seat in the House will go to a person who supports him legislatively anyway so that isn't a factor.) No he would lose - Trump is a revenged based person. Think of how many times he did some petty act or said some scathing statement just to get a little bit of vengeance. Consider how even now, two years after the fact, Trump never misses a chance to say something shitty about both Kemp and Raffensburger and how much he’s promoted his hand picked candidates to run against them. If Raffensburger kicks Greene off the ticket, the next most popular candidate is an anti-Greene republican who does not buy into the Big Lie - even worse, the seat might go to a Democrat. And revenged based Trump will interpret this as a personal attack against him. Sadly, it won’t happen. Raffensburger needs the GOP votes from north Georgia if he’s going to beat Trump’s hand picked SOS candidate (who does believe the Big Lie). Plus, he may not actually believe that Greene was actually being a traitor on J6, and clearly Raffensburger is a member of the GOP who follows the rule of law, and is not someone who puts vengeance above all else.
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Post by billisonboard on May 8, 2022 14:20:31 GMT -5
He doesn't lose either way. She will continue to be an ardent and vocal supporter whether she is on the ballot or not. Being the jilted candidate would actually make her more valuable as a symbol of how far people will go to attack the most important person in the world, i.e. Donald J. Trump. (The seat in the House will go to a person who supports him legislatively anyway so that isn't a factor.) No he would lose - Trump is a revenged based person. Think of how many times he did some petty act or said some scathing statement just to get a little bit of vengeance. Consider how even now, two years after the fact, Trump never misses a chance to say something shitty about both Kemp and Raffensburger and how much he’s promoted his hand picked candidates to run against them. If Raffensburger kicks Greene off the ticket, the next most popular candidate is an anti-Greene republican who does not buy into the Big Lie - even worse, the seat might go to a Democrat. And revenged based Trump will interpret this as a personal attack against him. Sadly, it won’t happen. Raffensburger needs the GOP votes from north Georgia if he’s going to beat Trump’s hand picked SOS candidate (who does believe the Big Lie). Plus, he may not actually believe that Greene was actually being a traitor on J6, and clearly Raffensburger is a member of the GOP who follows the rule of law, and is not someone who puts vengeance above all else. In post #278, you indicate she has about a 70% approval rating. So you are telling me that someone who is anti-Greene or a Democrat would get the votes to win if she is off the ballot? I bet there is a write-in candidate already identified as a just in case. I agree Trump would take it as a personal attack against him. It gives him new fresh ammunition to use. That is a win for him.
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Post by happyhoix on May 8, 2022 15:34:03 GMT -5
Interesting governor race in Nebraska. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-came-to-nebraska-to-defend-candidate-facing-sexual-misconduct-allegations-but-voters-aren-t-so-sure-either-of-those-things-will-matter-on-tuesday/ar-AAX3fZ4?ocid=EMMX&cvid=7c2dea954ec546caa8526b403d9a1050Trump flew out to boost his candidate, a wealthy businessman who has been accused of sexually assaulting eight women. Herbster, the candidate, has come out aggressively against the women, claiming they are all lying, he is 100% innocent, launched an ad campaign against one of the women who went public against him, and has also filed a lawsuit against her. Trump rushed to defend him, claiming that this is the same slanderous thing that happened to him, (Trump), and to Kavenaugh. Interesting to see how that turns out.
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Post by happyhoix on May 12, 2022 7:26:02 GMT -5
Interesting governor race in Nebraska. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-came-to-nebraska-to-defend-candidate-facing-sexual-misconduct-allegations-but-voters-aren-t-so-sure-either-of-those-things-will-matter-on-tuesday/ar-AAX3fZ4?ocid=EMMX&cvid=7c2dea954ec546caa8526b403d9a1050Trump flew out to boost his candidate, a wealthy businessman who has been accused of sexually assaulting eight women. Herbster, the candidate, has come out aggressively against the women, claiming they are all lying, he is 100% innocent, launched an ad campaign against one of the women who went public against him, and has also filed a lawsuit against her. Trump rushed to defend him, claiming that this is the same slanderous thing that happened to him, (Trump), and to Kavenaugh. Interesting to see how that turns out. Well, Trumps pick Herbster lost.
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Post by happyhoix on May 12, 2022 7:31:00 GMT -5
Madison Cawthorne, that MAGA pipsqueak, is failing to find a lot of support at home and might lose his primary.
Could lose it to another MAGA Republican, but hopefully not such an obnoxious one.
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Post by Opti on May 12, 2022 7:45:31 GMT -5
Madison Cawthorne, that MAGA pipsqueak, is failing to find a lot of support at home and might lose his primary. Could lose it to another MAGA Republican, but hopefully not such an obnoxious one. I think Cawthorn really hurt himself with his made up story of orgies and drugs in the ranks of the older GOPers.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 12, 2022 10:38:29 GMT -5
Madison Cawthorne, that MAGA pipsqueak, is failing to find a lot of support at home and might lose his primary. Could lose it to another MAGA Republican, but hopefully not such an obnoxious one. his coke and sex comment doomed him. the PTB will never allow him to win, after that. he pissed in his cornflakes.
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Post by happyhoix on May 12, 2022 12:18:22 GMT -5
Madison Cawthorne, that MAGA pipsqueak, is failing to find a lot of support at home and might lose his primary. Could lose it to another MAGA Republican, but hopefully not such an obnoxious one. I think Cawthorn really hurt himself with his made up story of orgies and drugs in the ranks of the older GOPers. He also said he was going to run for a new district when NC was trying to redistrict, and a MAGA woman stepped in to run from Hendersonville. Then the redistricting was shot down and Cawthorne left her a voicemail saying he was running again and she should drop out. She did not.Feelings were hurt.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 12, 2022 12:24:52 GMT -5
I think Cawthorn really hurt himself with his made up story of orgies and drugs in the ranks of the older GOPers. He also said he was going to run for a new district when NC was trying to redistrict, and a MAGA woman stepped in to run from Hendersonville. Then the redistricting was shot down and Cawthorne left her a voicemail saying he was running again and she should drop out. She did not.Feelings were hurt. yeah. that's right. he crossed TWO lines. nobody fucks with GOP redistricting.
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