The Cult of Trump

[Opti]

Oct 11, 2021 12:43:47 GMT -5 Bob Ross said:

Oct 8, 2021 15:04:15 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

in my sunniest moments, this is how I think.

you don't want to hear about my darkest ones.

Always remember, everything Trump touches dies.

So will this. 

Trump touched America.

[Bob Ross]

Oct 11, 2021 13:01:38 GMT -5 Opti said:

Oct 11, 2021 12:43:47 GMT -5 Bob Ross said:

Always remember, everything Trump touches dies.

So will this. 

Trump touched America.

Can you point to me on the doll where Trump touched America? 

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

Oct 11, 2021 13:25:32 GMT -5 Bob Ross said:

Oct 11, 2021 13:01:38 GMT -5 Opti said:

Trump touched America.

Can you point to me on the doll where Trump touched America? 

His grubby prints are all over that doll.

[tbop77]

He admitted that the issue is the main one that keeps him in the spotlight.



“It’s the single biggest issue, the issue that gets the most pull, the most respect, the biggest cheers is talking about the election fraud of the 2020 presidential election. Nobody’s ever seen anything like it,” he said.



Acosta later said Trump “just gave away the big lie” with this admission.



“He is admitting that his election lies are ego juice. Just there to pump up the crowd, the very stuff that fueled the insurrection. And by now, we know he’ll take those crocodile tears ― the big lie is the big cry, of course, as we said before ― all the way to the bank and perhaps to the 2024 election.”

news.yahoo.com/cnns-jim-acosta-says-trumps-233503939.html

And just think, if there was anything to the leaders of the Republican party, he would have been convicted and the US would have been done with him.  

[Icelandic Woman]

Oct 11, 2021 12:47:04 GMT -5 Bob Ross said:

Oct 8, 2021 14:10:08 GMT -5 Icelandic Woman said:

We can only hope but WHEN? All his legal crap is taking way to long!

In the mean time he is able to continue inflicting his Blizzard of Bullshit on us and driving this country to the brink of a democracy disaster with the help of all the cowardly cohort Repugnants in his Cult of Personality.

Define "way too long".

IMHO, the legal crap is on pace, given the sheer magnitude and the monumental stakes of it all.

There is so much of it you would think one or two things would be to the charging faze at this point. Any days that he is still free is too long.

Every Monday morning when I plug back into the world I am always disappointed that he is still breathing. He belongs in HELL with Charles Manson and OBL. JMHO

[Icelandic Woman]

[happyhoix]

Trumps latest mailing list request is that each of his MAGA heads send him 45 bucks to solve the 2020 election fraud.

Man he found his cash cow and he’s going to trot that beast out at every possible chance. 2016 he had the scary brown people flooding the border, but this grift is even sweeter.

He’s got to raise a lot of cash for that big personal loan he has to pay back in a few years. Thank goodness he’s got a big pack of rubes to milk, or he might actually have to get a real job, or sell one of his money pits he calls a resort.

[Tennesseer]

Oct 18, 2021 7:15:24 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Trumps latest mailing list request is that each of his MAGA heads send him 45 bucks to solve the 2020 election fraud.

Man he found his cash cow and he’s going to trot that beast out at every possible chance. 2016 he had the scary brown people flooding the border, but this grift is even sweeter.

He’s got to raise a lot of cash for that big personal loan he has to pay back in a few years. Thank goodness he’s got a big pack of rubes to milk, or he might actually have to get a real job, or sell one of his money pits he calls a resort.

Trump is close to selling his Washington, DC, hotel for more than $370 million, report says
link

[happyhoix]

Oct 18, 2021 10:56:13 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 18, 2021 7:15:24 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Trumps latest mailing list request is that each of his MAGA heads send him 45 bucks to solve the 2020 election fraud.

Man he found his cash cow and he’s going to trot that beast out at every possible chance. 2016 he had the scary brown people flooding the border, but this grift is even sweeter.

He’s got to raise a lot of cash for that big personal loan he has to pay back in a few years. Thank goodness he’s got a big pack of rubes to milk, or he might actually have to get a real job, or sell one of his money pits he calls a resort.

Trump is close to selling his Washington, DC, hotel for more than $370 million, report says
link

I wonder how much he’ll have left after he pays back the loans he took out against it.

Or maybe he’ll just skip out on repaying the loans. He’s good at that.

[Tennesseer]

Oct 18, 2021 11:04:59 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Oct 18, 2021 10:56:13 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Trump is close to selling his Washington, DC, hotel for more than $370 million, report says
link

I wonder how much he’ll have left after he pays back the loans he took out against it.

Or maybe he’ll just skip out on repaying the loans. He’s good at that.

trump's modus operandi.

[happyhoix]

GOP senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana said he would not vote for Trump in 2024 because‘ elections are about winning’ and thanks to Trump the GOP lost the presidency, the House and the Senate. He’s the first president in nearly 90 years to do that.’

So he dared to call the king naked.

Can’t quote but it’s on Business Insider.

Let the ex presidential outrage begin.

[Tennesseer]

Oct 18, 2021 12:26:17 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

GOP senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana said he would not vote for Trump in 2024 because‘ elections are about winning’ and thanks to Trump the GOP lost the presidency, the House and the Senate. He’s the first president in nearly 90 years to do that.’

So he dared to call the king naked.

Can’t quote but it’s on Business Insider.

Let the ex presidential outrage begin.

Vodka is also a clear liquid.

[tbop77]

“You could call me the new Rosa Parks,” leading QAnon conspiracy theorist and Arizona congressional candidate Ron Watkins told the crowd at a “Q” convention this weekend.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/qanon-congressional-candidate-farcically-compares-himself-to-civil-rights-icon-i-m-the-digital-rosa-parks/ar-AAPU1Hk?ocid=msedgntp

Yeah buddy!  

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Oct 25, 2021 5:58:50 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

“You could call me the new Rosa Parks,” leading QAnon conspiracy theorist and Arizona congressional candidate Ron Watkins told the crowd at a “Q” convention this weekend.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/qanon-congressional-candidate-farcically-compares-himself-to-civil-rights-icon-i-m-the-digital-rosa-parks/ar-AAPU1Hk?ocid=msedgntp

Yeah buddy!  

Where is a good ole fashioned Old Testament smoting when you need it?

[kadee79]

Back to "Cult of Trump"....

There was a "war room" at the Willard Hotel....Jan. 6 was PLANNED & there was even a 'blanket pardon' implied...it will take me a bit to get all the links together...so start with this one....


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-loyalists-planned-to-overturn-the-election-in-war-room-of-dc-hotel/vi-AAPVEOm?ocid=msedgdhp


I'll add the other links in another post....

[kadee79]

Here is another one...

As the House investigation into the Jan. 6 attack heats up, some of the planners of the pro-Trump rallies that took place in Washington, D.C., have begun communicating with congressional investigators and sharing new information about what happened when the former president’s supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol. Two of these people have spoken to Rolling Stone extensively in recent weeks and detailed explosive allegations that multiple members of Congress were intimately involved in planning both Trump’s efforts to overturn his election loss and the Jan. 6 events that turned violent.



Rolling Stone separately confirmed a third person involved in the main Jan. 6 rally in D.C. has communicated with the committee. This is the first report that the committee is hearing major new allegations from potential cooperating witnesses. While there have been prior indications that members of Congress were involved, this is also the first account detailing their purported role and its scope. The two sources also claim they interacted with members of Trump’s team, including former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, who they describe as having had an opportunity to prevent the violence.

www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/exclusive-jan-6-organizers-met-congress-white-house-1245289/


And the one about the pardons....

GOP congressman Paul Gosar encouraged pro-Trump rally organizers to plan protests in Washington DC on January 6 by telling them they would get a "blanket pardon" for another, unrelated investigation, according to two of the protest's planners.



Gosar had repeatedly assured them of the pardons, to the point where they believed it was a "done deal," they told Rolling Stone in an exclusive released Sunday. Both organizers have been speaking with the congressional committee investigating the US Capitol riots, per Rolling Stone, and were kept anonymous. It is unclear what the original unrelated investigation mentioned by the pair was.



In the interview, one organizer said they were given the impression that Gosar spoke to former President Donald Trump about the pardons and that they had been mentioned by name.



"They were working on submitting the paperwork and getting members of the House Freedom Caucus to sign on as a show of support," the organizer told Rolling Stone.



The two anonymous sources said Gosar told them: "I was just going over the list of pardons and we just wanted to tell you guys how much we appreciate all the hard work you've been doing," according to the outlet.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/paul-gosar-assured-jan-6-protest-organizers-they-would-get-a-blanket-pardon-while-they-were-planning-rallies-report/ar-AAPUEw4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

[kadee79]

And now....demands from the Ds to remove all Congress persons involved in this planning....

Several Democratic House members have seized on the new Rolling Stone magazine article on the Capitol insurrection to call for the expulsion of the pro-Trump hardliners in Congress who were allegedly involved in planning the rallies on Jan. 6 that preceded the deadly attack.

“Any member of Congress who helped plot a terrorist attack on our nation’s Capitol must be expelled,” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) declared via Twitter on Sunday night.

“Those responsible remain a danger to our democracy, our country, and human life in the vicinity of our Capitol and beyond,” she tweeted.

Fellow New York Democrat Rep. Ritchie Torres (D-NY) slammed the “cabal” of GOP lawmakers identified in the Rolling Stone article who “not only incited but also aided and abetted the insurrection.”

“There’s no place for insurrectionists in the US Congress,” Torres tweeted. “Expel any and all accomplices.”

Reps. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) and David Cicilline (D-RI) echoed similar demands for removal.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-dems-demand-ouster-of-trump-hardliners-after-rolling-stone-piece/ar-AAPW5IY?ocid=msedgdhp&li=BBnbfcL

[kadee79]

And here is Gosar's tweet on Jan.6....kind of incriminating?

[busymom]

You could tell there was some sort of organization to the events that took place on Jan. 6th, but good Lord!  We need to bring back firing squads, so NO ONE even THINKS of doing something like this for another generation. Or, maybe borrow that public gallows that the participants had set up for Pence. Slaps on the wrist could destroy our government.  Unless we bring the organizers to justice, I actually dread the next presidential election...

[djAdvocate]

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[tbop77]

They put on a pretty good episode of the Trump show yesterday with the Attorney General Garland:


During a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing with Attorney General Merrick Garland, Sen. Ted Cruz defended parents opposed to mask mandates in school, including an Ohio woman who made a Nazi salute at a school board meeting.


Garland faced testy comments from Sen. Tom Cotton as well as other Republicans during the hearing, who called for the memo to be rescinded and for the Attorney General to resign.



"Thank God you are not on the Supreme Court," Cotton told Garland during the hearing.


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ted-cruz-defended-an-anti-mask-parent-who-did-a-nazi-salute-at-a-school-board-meeting/ar-AAQ1MAB?ocid=msedgntp

You think your job is hard?  I wonder how he kept from telling Cotton to go F^&K yourself!  

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Well it is your God given right to be able to physically threaten and intimidate those who you disagree with.  I should be able to march into a school board meeting in full Nazi regalia so I can clearly convince them of how much they are violating my rights as a human being.  I should be able to show up armed with guns and ropes to kidnap you and have a nice logical discussion about why you are wrong about masks.

It's my right to be heard no matter what the means.

Unless you are liberal or black.  Then you are a thug who deserves to be shot.   We need to bring the full force of the law in to protect those whose personal safety you threaten simply by existing.

[billisonboard]

Oct 28, 2021 6:46:31 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

They put on a pretty good episode of the Trump show yesterday with the Attorney General Garland:


During a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing with Attorney General Merrick Garland, Sen. Ted Cruz defended parents opposed to mask mandates in school, including an Ohio woman who made a Nazi salute at a school board meeting.


Garland faced testy comments from Sen. Tom Cotton as well as other Republicans during the hearing, who called for the memo to be rescinded and for the Attorney General to resign.



"Thank God you are not on the Supreme Court," Cotton told Garland during the hearing.


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ted-cruz-defended-an-anti-mask-parent-who-did-a-nazi-salute-at-a-school-board-meeting/ar-AAQ1MAB?ocid=msedgntp

You think your job is hard?  I wonder how he kept from telling Cotton to go F^&K yourself!  

Parents have every right to speak at public meetings against mask mandates, including making a mocking Nazi salute. And it is reasonable for federal law enforcement officials to work with local jurisdictions to identify actual threats of criminal activity.

[Tennesseer]

Oct 28, 2021 7:53:40 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Well it is your God given right to be able to physically threaten and intimidate those who you disagree with.  I should be able to march into a school board meeting in full Nazi regalia so I can clearly convince them of how much they are violating my rights as a human being.  I should be able to show up armed with guns and ropes to kidnap you and have a nice logical discussion about why you are wrong about masks.

It's my right to be heard no matter what the means.

Unless you are liberal or black.  Then you are a thug who deserves to be shot.   We need to bring the full force of the law in to protect those whose personal safety you threaten simply by existing.

Men shot by Kyle Rittenhouse can be called ‘rioters’ and ‘looters’ but not ‘victims,’ judge rules

A Wisconsin judge ruled Monday that attorneys in the Kyle Rittenhouse murder trial could refer to the men the teen shot in Kenosha, Wis., last year as “rioters,” “looters” and “arsonists.” They could not, however, describe Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber, who were killed, and Gaige Grosskreutz, who was wounded, as “victims” because the term was “loaded,” the judge said.

The ruling comes ahead of what’s expected to be a contentious trial. Rittenhouse, then 17, shot the men in downtown Kenosha on Aug. 25, 2020, with an AR-15-style rifle after crossing state lines during the turmoil sparked by the shooting of Jacob Blake, a Black man, by Rusten Sheskey, a White police officer. Rittenhouse was with fellow armed men who had tasked themselves with patrolling Kenosha’s streets amid the chaos.

Circuit Judge Bruce Schroeder laid out final ground rules before the trial next week. Rittenhouse faces homicide charges in the deaths of Rosenbaum, 36, and Huber, 26, and an attempted homicide charge for shooting Grosskreutz, 27. He also is charged with being a minor in possession of a firearm. Rittenhouse has pleaded not guilty to all charges, and his attorneys are expected to argue that he acted in self-defense.

Complete article here: link

[bean29]

One of those guys that were murdered by Rittenhouse was there to provide medical assistance.  I never got the impression that he was a rioter.  That judge has some serious bias.  This case is definitely going to the supreme court, hopefully the will rule with more fairness, but I personally believe Democracy in the US is gone.  We are already living in a Theocracy.

[thyme4change]

Oct 28, 2021 10:50:26 GMT -5 bean29 said:

One of those guys that were murdered by Rittenhouse was there to provide medical assistance.  I never got the impression that he was a rioter.  That judge has some serious bias.  This case is definitely going to the supreme court, hopefully the will rule with more fairness, but I personally believe Democracy in the US is gone.  We are already living in a Theocracy.

I heard some lawyer say that it is standard practice to ask the courts to remove the label "victim" from trials because it implies a crime and biases juries. He also said that this particular judge has a track record of granting that in every case (I don't know if someone really checked every one of his cases.) If he allowed the 'victim' label here, he would be showing a bias. The judge also disallowed the labels of rioters or anything that sounded like the victims were committing crimes or up to no good. I don’t know if they are allowed to use 'protestor'.

I highly doubt the criminal case ends up in the Supreme Court. Maybe a civil case would turn up more civil rights disputes that could get it there.

Moral of the story - let's be careful not to blindly believe everything we read and let the writer of said story fire up emotions on things that have an explanation. Let's be better. If we know we are on the moral high ground, we don't have to churn over the little stuff, and we should make sure what we do make a deal about holds water.

[djAdvocate]

isn't it standard parlance, though?

you have victims and perpetrators.


or is it defendant and litigant in a court?

[dondub]

Oct 28, 2021 13:04:08 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

isn't it standard parlance, though?

you have victims and perpetrators.


or is it defendant and litigant in a court?

Plaintiff.

[djAdvocate]

Oct 28, 2021 13:14:12 GMT -5 dondub said:

Oct 28, 2021 13:04:08 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

isn't it standard parlance, though?

you have victims and perpetrators.


or is it defendant and litigant in a court?

Plaintiff.

so the victim parlance, I guess that is used by police?

[thyme4change]

The good news is the easiest way is to refer them is to use the victim's names. That humanizes them a lot. When they are nameless (or their name was briefly mentioned at the beginning of the trial and the jury forgot the name) it is easier to forget that a whole life was extinguished.