The Cult of Trump

[djAdvocate]

Mar 3, 2022 8:42:19 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Mar 3, 2022 7:29:40 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

You do realize you just described Biden.

Please provide video proof of Biden saying something, then at a later date claiming he never said what we have video evidence of him saying and blaming the viscous GOP and news media of lying about him.

i told you not to eat the poppies, didn't i?

[happyhoix]

Mar 3, 2022 13:40:12 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Mar 3, 2022 8:42:19 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Please provide video proof of Biden saying something, then at a later date claiming he never said what we have video evidence of him saying and blaming the viscous GOP and news media of lying about him.

i told you not to eat the poppies, didn't i?

Well, the scare crow and the robot guy made me do it.

[djAdvocate]

i have noticed the cultists jumping all over the Quinnipiac Poll from a week ago that showed Biden at 37%.

a few things about that poll:

1) Q has consistently been 3-5 ALL OTHER POLLS this year, including RASMUSSEN.
2) 538 gave that poll a +3D bias adjustment, which puts it at 40% approval.
3) That poll was the lowest in three weeks, so...outlier.
4) The last poll to have him lower was....you guessed it....Quinnapiac.
5) That last Quinnipiac poll was 2% BELOW the most recent one (in other words, it shows Biden GAINING approval)
6) The last poll that showed him lower than 38% adjusted was....you guessed it...Quinnipiac
7) That poll, Jan 10th, showed Biden 2% lower than Feb and 4% lower than March.

mind you, Q is a highly regarded pollster.  so, they MIGHT be right.  but they are a definite outlier.
moreover, they are not as highly regarded as Marist which just came out with Biden at 48%.

the cultists watched the LA Times poll, which had a horrendous oversampling flaw in it which
was discussed on these boards and at the poll watching sites.  i would gamble that Q is at least
3% undersampling, probably 4%.  so, the next time a Trumpster runs Q up the flagpole, just
add 4% to it, and see where that puts Biden.

-djpolldancer

[djAdvocate]

PPS- Biden's polling average is basically at a high for 2022 right now, if you care about how things actually are.

the Marist poll was the best result he has had in THREE MONTHS.
if you want to count it as an outlier, perhaps adding it to the OTHER outlier and
dividing by two would be a good idea.  that gives Biden 42.5%, which is basically 
EXACTLY where he is.  

[Opti]

Mar 3, 2022 14:35:15 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Mar 3, 2022 13:40:12 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i told you not to eat the poppies, didn't i?

Well, the scare crow and the robot guy made me do it.

For happyhoix

[Tennesseer]

Trump has been on Putin's side in Ukraine's long struggle against Russian aggression

(CNN)Americans rarely pay much attention to international events. Busy lives leave little time for distant events with unfamiliar protagonists.

Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine has become a rare exception, its butchery in plain view via saturation coverage for anyone with a video screen. But Americans may not yet have absorbed this disturbing reality: The American president who left office just 14 months ago sided with the butcher.

That's right: In the struggle now uniting the free world against an autocrat's lawless aggression, America's most recent ex-President sided with the autocrat.

It's not just that Donald Trump recently hailed the "genius" of Putin's strike against Ukraine. Since his political career began, Trump has backed Putin in ways connected directly to the Russian's quest to subjugate that country.

For years, relations between Russia and the celebrity real estate executive were lubricated by money. There was the development financing Trump's sons boasted about, the Palm Beach mansion he sold to a Russian oligarch for $95 million four years after buying it for $41 million, the Manhattan project in association with a mob-linked Russian émigré.

He sought to place a Trump Tower in Moscow even as he ran for president. In 2013, when he staged a beauty pageant there, Trump asked on Twitter: "Will (Putin) become my new best friend?"

Putin seized Crimea from Ukraine the following year. Protests in Kyiv had forced a Kremlin ally to quit the presidency. The ousted president, who fled to Russia, had been advised by an American political consultant. That consultant, Paul Manafort, subsequently became Trump's 2016 campaign manager.

Candidate Trump spoke forgivingly about Russia's violation of Ukrainian sovereignty. He mused about lifting sanctions to smooth relations with Putin.

"The people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were," Trump told ABC News in July 2016. That had been Putin's justification for the invasion.

President Trump sought to undo one punishment imposed on Putin by proposing that Russia rejoin the G7, an organization of the world's major industrial economies. Other members, who had teamed with the US to kick Russia out during Barack Obama's presidency, declined to go along.

His administration implemented some new sanctions on Russia at the insistence of national security officials and Congress. Trump himself objected.

"In almost every case, the sanctions were imposed with Trump complaining about it and saying we were being too hard," his former national security adviser John Bolton said on Newsmax recently.

Russia menaced Ukraine throughout Trump's term. He strengthened Putin's hand in several ways.

Trump cast doubt on America's decades-old commitment to defending European partners in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Aides feared he might try to withdraw from NATO if he won a second term.

He fomented discord at home, advancing Putin's objective of sapping American resolve. "Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people," his former Defense Secretary James Mattis said in 2020.

Complete article here: Trump has been on Putin's side in Ukraine's long struggle against Russian aggression

[djAdvocate]

exactly.

so, it is not Biden's "weakness" that caused Putin to move.
it is the fact that Biden is not Putin's friend.

[happyhoix]

As a side note, Trump is very very unhappy that his new social media platform isn’t beating all the competition.

www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/donald-trump-is-furious-about-the-stumbling-launch-of-his-social-media-app-truth-social-report-says/ar-AAUGjIJ

Yes, it’s buggy and there’s long wait lists to open an account, but damn it, where are all the faithful, devoted minions that usually rush to his beck and call? Why aren’t they willing to put up with a crappy social media platform because it has Trumps’ name on it?

I would suggest his social media platform was planned and built with all the detail and care he used to launch the Trump University and Trump Casino - so a ratty product was pretty much guaranteed.

[weltschmerz]

Putin seized Crimea from Ukraine the following year.

Trump said Putin would never invade Crimea....after Putin invaded the Crimea. What a dumbass!

[Lizard Queen]

This was photoshopped, but still funny.

[Opti]

Look who is going to have a former supporter in the future!


www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/trump-refinances-100-million-mortgage-on-trump-tower-with-a-bank-headed-by-a-political-supporter/ar-AAUQx2t?ocid=msedgntp

Donald Trump refinanced Trump Tower in February, taking out a $100 million loan, according to documents recorded Tuesday by New York City’s Department of Finance.



The financing came from Axos Bank of San Diego, which launched in 2000 as Bank of Internet USA. Its CEO, Gregory Garrabrants, has contributed $50,000 to Republican campaigns, including $9,600 in support of Trump, since 2012, according to records with the Federal Election Commission.



Trump’s previous mortgage on his flagship piece of real estate, $100 million from commercial real estate investment trust Ladder Capital, was scheduled to come due in September.



Spokespeople for the Trump Organization and Axos Bank did not immediately respond to inquiries. Eric Trump signed the loan documents as the president of Trump Tower Commercial LLC.

[djAdvocate]

looks like a pretty well run bank.  they are NYSE listed under the symbol AX.

[Tennesseer]

Thom Hartmann: Trump shut down U.S. cyber protections against Russia

Former President Trump damaged U.S. cyber protections against Russia, author Thom Hartmann told Hill.TV's "Rising" on Tuesday.

Hartmann details in his new book, "The Hidden History of Big Brother in America: How the Death of Privacy and the Rise of Surveillance Threaten Us and Our Democracy," how Trump reversed Obama-era protections once he took office.

After the first Russian cyberattack on Ukraine, former President Obama created an agency to build out American cyber security, specifically against Russian threats. When Trump took office, he dismantled the agency, and within a year Russia had infiltrated American cyber security, Hartmann claims.

"Trump had basically shut down our cyber protections against Russia," he said.

Watch the video in the link: Thom Hartmann: Trump shut down U.S. cyber protections against Russia

[djAdvocate]

i have heard Biden blamed for Russia invading the Ukraine lately.
they say that this would never have happened under Trump.

well, of course not.  Trump was actively working in the interests of Russia, and against the interests of the US, so why on Earth would Russia do ANYTHING other than hang out and enjoy the ride?

[happyhoix]

Mar 14, 2022 22:37:10 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i have heard Biden blamed for Russia invading the Ukraine lately.
they say that this would never have happened under Trump.

well, of course not.  Trump was actively working in the interests of Russia, and against the interests of the US, so why on Earth would Russia do ANYTHING other than hang out and enjoy the ride?

Russia was waiting to see if Trump would win a second term, withdraw the US from NATO in his America First program, and stand with his head up his ass while Russia invaded Ukrainian.

Just look at how long it took for Trump to say anything negative about the Russian invasion, and then only because the force of public opinion was against him.

[djAdvocate]

it was great having a Russian Proxy in the Whitehouse, while it lasted.

but as SOON as the fun ended, Putin figured out what he was going to do next.

[djAdvocate]

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/get-ready-here-comes-the-biden-recession/ar-AAV2zQK?li=BBnb7Kz

this is such a mountain of MAGA horseshit.  here is the opening stanza:


At a recent confab, President Biden's imperiled party pushed a new message: Democrats deliver.


>that imperiled party is in pretty good shape, overall, and might actually surprise at midterms.


The proposed slogan was panned; Democrats were terrified Republicans would respond with:

>clearly terrified.  as in "unable to think clearly".

"Yes! Democrats deliver crushing inflation,

>the inflation rate was 5.4% in january 2021, a 12 year high.  i am not sure how Biden is responsible for inflation that was already at a 12 year high.  but if we are being honest, i am not sure how Trump was responsible for it, either.

soaring crime,

"the soaring crime is from a combination of desperation and the end of the coronavirus.  again, not sure how Biden is responsible for either.  but i am less forgiving of Trump.

an open border,

>an absolute empty mythical piece of BS.  immediate demerits for bringing it up.

critical race theory for tots,

>an absolute empty mythical piece of BS. immediate demerits for bringing it up.

full-term abortions on demand

>an absolute empty mythical piece of BS. immediate demerits for bringing it up.

, a woke military,

>an absolute empty mythical piece of BS. immediate demerits for bringing it up.

high taxes

>an absolute empty mythical piece of BS. immediate demerits for bringing it up.

and out-of-control spending.

>an extension from the out of control spending under Trump.  yes.  that is a problem.  i will give you that.  it is a problem that neither party has seen fit to solve for 40 years with the exception of Clinton, who basically had it nailed by the end of his term.  only to have Bush blow it up.

And now... will Joe Biden's Democrats deliver a recession?"

>mark my words, this is NOT going to happen.  i can explain why, if you would like.

this hit piece starts out with a paragraph that is a list of grievances that Biden had nothing to do with followed by a list of grievances that don't exist, and concluding with one that will never happen, certainly not in Biden's first term.  absolute crap.

[djAdvocate]

this chart is interesting:


tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi


if you look CAREFULLY at it, you will see that the rate of increase is slowing.  it was fastest under the last year of Trump, rising from 0-5.4% in about a year.  in the last year, it is up another 2.5%, which is SIGNIFICANTLY less increase.

[tallguy]

Mar 15, 2022 12:47:20 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/get-ready-here-comes-the-biden-recession/ar-AAV2zQK?li=BBnb7Kz

this is such a mountain of MAGA horseshit.  here is the opening stanza:


At a recent confab, President Biden's imperiled party pushed a new message: Democrats deliver.


>that imperiled party is in pretty good shape, overall, and might actually surprise at midterms.


The proposed slogan was panned; Democrats were terrified Republicans would respond with:

>clearly terrified.  as in "unable to think clearly".

"Yes! Democrats deliver crushing inflation,

>the inflation rate was 5.4% in january 2021, a 12 year high.  i am not sure how Biden is responsible for inflation that was already at a 12 year high.  but if we are being honest, i am not sure how Trump was responsible for it, either.

soaring crime,

"the soaring crime is from a combination of desperation and the end of the coronavirus.  again, not sure how Biden is responsible for either.  but i am less forgiving of Trump.

an open border,

>an absolute empty mythical piece of BS.  immediate demerits for bringing it up.

critical race theory for tots,

>an absolute empty mythical piece of BS. immediate demerits for bringing it up.

full-term abortions on demand

>an absolute empty mythical piece of BS. immediate demerits for bringing it up.

, a woke military,

>an absolute empty mythical piece of BS. immediate demerits for bringing it up.

high taxes

>an absolute empty mythical piece of BS. immediate demerits for bringing it up.

and out-of-control spending.

>an extension from the out of control spending under Trump.  yes.  that is a problem.  i will give you that.  it is a problem that neither party has seen fit to solve for 40 years with the exception of Clinton, who basically had it nailed by the end of his term.  only to have Bush blow it up.

And now... will Joe Biden's Democrats deliver a recession?"

>mark my words, this is NOT going to happen.  i can explain why, if you would like.

this hit piece starts out with a paragraph that is a list of grievances that Biden had nothing to do with followed by a list of grievances that don't exist, and concluding with one that will never happen, certainly not in Biden's first term.  absolute crap.

What do you expect from MAGAts?

[Tennesseer]

DJ - you need to change the title of this thread to The Cult of Trump (Now 68+ mo) to match the thread Cult of Biden (now 13 mo) even though there is no cult of Biden.

Probably would be nice to also list the various right-wing groups and individuals who are trump cult members including Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, QAnon, Proud Boys, white-nationalist movements groups including the KKK and individuals like Nicholas Fuentes, House of Representatives Mo Brooks and Madison Cawthorn, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, Katrina Pierson, David Duke, Rudy Giuliani, Amy Kremer, John Eastman former Georgia state Rep. Vernon Jones, Ginny Thomas, Valuebuy, Michael J. Lindell, Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, the nightly news 'entertainers' on Fox News and various members of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate, Republican state governors, lt. governors, secretaries of State a long host of lesser known federal and state individuals.



Or not.

[Tennesseer]

OPINION - Donald Trump can’t come back from his grotesque praise for ‘genius’ tyrant Vladimir Putin

Come on, Republicans, it is time to Trump. You know it. Even members of his Make America Great Again fan club know it. Somebody has to summon up the courage to tell the former US president that he is no longer the man of the hour — and that he must give up his vengeful drive to regain power.

Vladimir Putin has revealed the ugly side of the cult of the “strongman”. The game isn’t about “owning the libs” any more. Only recently Trump fawned over the Russian president as “savvy” and a “genius”. He has been backpedalling fast, telling the Washington Examiner in an interview today, “I’ve been very, very tough on Putin. I got a bad rap on that,” and saying he mistook Putin’s threats of invasion as a “negotiating” tactic. He is obviously embarrassed to have been so out of step with the US public and his party.

But other Trump mini-mes have joined the “Putin wing of the GOP”, as outcast Republican congresswoman Liz Cheney called it. Madison Cawthorn, the 26-year-old Republican representative for North Carolina, described Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelensky as a “thug” and its government as “incredibly evil”, “corrupt” and “woke”.

Marjorie Taylor Greene, the Georgia congresswoman, appeared at an “America First” far-right conference last month at which organiser Nick Fuentes led a round of applause for Putin. Fuentes’s latest provocation was to post the letter “Z” on his Telegram account, the Putinist version of the swastika.

The biggest wingnuts in the GOP look to Trump as their spiritual leader. Privately, many Republicans agree with the verdict of Tom Rice, a congressman who voted for his impeachment, that the former president is “consumed by spite”. But it requires a lot more senior figures than the usual suspects, such as Cheney and Mitt Romney, to tell him — politely but firmly — that he is unfit to be the Republican standard-bearer in 2024.

“Do you miss me yet?” Trump roars, repeatedly. No, but it’s not just me. Although many Americans buy into the Trumpian argument that Biden was “weak” on Russian aggression and is to blame for inflation — and that the price of gasoline would come down if only the Democrats were willing to “drill, baby, drill” — they are not clamouring for his return. And that includes former die-hard Trump supporters. Lauren Ganser, a special needs teacher in her sixties from Allentown, Pennsylvania, was such a big fan that she attended the “Stop the Steal” rally in Washington on January 6 and still believes “infiltrators” were responsible for storming the Capitol. Yet she fervently wishes Trump would make way.

“I loved Trump and his policies, but people need to stop feeding his ego and be blunt and honest,” she told me. “We’re always criticising Biden because of his age. Trump is only four years younger, even if he is more able.” Who is going to have the nerve to tell Trump to push off? To my surprise, she answered, “I’ll tell him! In fact, I send him emails all the time saying, ‘Thank you for your service to your country, but it is time for somebody else’.” She has yet to receive a reply. “I might try a handwritten letter next,” she said.

“I think Melania should talk to him,” Ganser added. “She was a beautiful, loving soul and people treated her like c-r-a-p. I doubt she wants to go through all that again.” Ron De Santis, the Florida governor, is her man: “I absolutely love De Santis. He would be amazing for our country. He’s more relatable and has more tact than Trump.”

Ganser is already campaigning for the midterms and has no doubt Republicans will win handsomely in November. The 2024 presidential election is a different matter. Top of her concern is that suburban Republicans and independent voters still can’t stomach Trump, no matter how fed up they are with Biden. “They don’t like Trump’s demeanor. He is too narcissistic,” she said.

Distrust of Trump is evident in the polls. Yes, Biden is flailing — the latest average from RealClearPolitics shows 43 per cent of voters approving of the president’s job performance compared to 52 per cent who disapprove (despite a brief rally around the flag over Ukraine). Yet Trump is almost as bad — 44 per cent of voters view him favourably, compared to 52 per cent who don’t.

Unfortunately, these numbers are close enough to give Trump a fighting chance, leaving him free to keep bullying his party into submission. Yet after the courage shown by the Ukrainians, wouldn’t it be wonderful if Republicans stopped being craven? It is not too late.

OPINION - Donald Trump can’t come back from his grotesque praise for ‘genius’ tyrant Vladimir Putin

[djAdvocate]

Mar 15, 2022 15:20:12 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

DJ - you need to change the title of this thread to The Cult of Trump (Now 68+ mo) to match the thread Cult of Biden (now 13 mo) even though there is no cult of Biden.

Probably would be nice to also list the various right-wing groups and individuals who are trump cult members including Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, QAnon, Proud Boys, white-nationalist movements groups including the KKK and individuals like Nicholas Fuentes, House of Representatives Mo Brooks and Madison Cawthorn, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, Katrina Pierson, David Duke, Rudy Giuliani, Amy Kremer, John Eastman former Georgia state Rep. Vernon Jones, Ginny Thomas, Valuebuy, Michael J. Lindell, Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, the nightly news 'entertainers' on Fox News and various members of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate, Republican state governors, lt. governors, secretaries of State a long host of lesser known federal and state individuals.



Or not.

i didn't title it.  Bob did.
i had management MERGE my thread with his.

[Tennesseer]

Trump Was Right About Everything | Opinion
Donald Trump Jr.

Who would have guessed? Donald J. Trump was right about everything.

When my father wrote his book Our Journey Together last year, we looked back on how much he accomplished and how right he was when it came to just about everything.

From intelligence agencies spying on his campaign, to Hunter Biden's laptop being real, to COVID-19 very likely coming from a Chinese lab, he got so many things right that the media got wrong.

Most importantly, he was right on all of the biggest issues facing America today. While Joe Biden flounders on Russia, on gas prices, on the economy and on the world stage at large, remember that the Trump administration showed America, and indeed the world, how to deal with threats.

The rest of junior's nonsense here: Trump Was Right About Everything | Opinion

[Tennesseer]

Bob Ross - you need to change the title of this thread to The Cult of Trump (Now 68+ mo) to match the thread Cult of Biden (now 13 mo) even though there is no cult of Biden.

Probably would be nice to also list the various right-wing groups and individuals who are trump cult members including Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, QAnon, Proud Boys, white-nationalist movements groups including the KKK and individuals like Nicholas Fuentes, House of Representatives Mo Brooks and Madison Cawthorn, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, Katrina Pierson, David Duke, Rudy Giuliani, Amy Kremer, John Eastman former Georgia state Rep. Vernon Jones, Ginny Thomas, Valuebuy, Michael J. Lindell, Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, the nightly news 'entertainers' on Fox News and various members of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate, Republican state governors, lt. governors, secretaries of State a long host of lesser known federal and state individuals.



Or not.

[pulmonarymd]

Mar 16, 2022 16:34:26 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Trump Was Right About Everything | Opinion
Donald Trump Jr.

Who would have guessed? Donald J. Trump was right about everything.

When my father wrote his book Our Journey Together last year, we looked back on how much he accomplished and how right he was when it came to just about everything.

From intelligence agencies spying on his campaign, to Hunter Biden's laptop being real, to COVID-19 very likely coming from a Chinese lab, he got so many things right that the media got wrong.

Most importantly, he was right on all of the biggest issues facing America today. While Joe Biden flounders on Russia, on gas prices, on the economy and on the world stage at large, remember that the Trump administration showed America, and indeed the world, how to deal with threats.

The rest of junior's nonsense here: Trump Was Right About Everything | Opinion

The most amazing part of this is that junior actually wrote a book. I guess Eric is really the dumb one. Too bad he wrote a piece of fiction.

[Opti]

Mar 16, 2022 16:34:26 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Trump Was Right About Everything | Opinion
Donald Trump Jr.

Who would have guessed? Donald J. Trump was right about everything.

When my father wrote his book Our Journey Together last year, we looked back on how much he accomplished and how right he was when it came to just about everything.

From intelligence agencies spying on his campaign, to Hunter Biden's laptop being real, to COVID-19 very likely coming from a Chinese lab, he got so many things right that the media got wrong.

Most importantly, he was right on all of the biggest issues facing America today. While Joe Biden flounders on Russia, on gas prices, on the economy and on the world stage at large, remember that the Trump administration showed America, and indeed the world, how to deal with threats.

The rest of junior's nonsense here: Trump Was Right About Everything | Opinion

Suck up to them, roll over and wave them in? (Erdogan and our left behind equipment comes to mind)

[djAdvocate]

Mar 16, 2022 16:34:26 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Trump Was Right About Everything | Opinion
Donald Trump Jr.

Who would have guessed? Donald J. Trump was right about everything.

When my father wrote his book 

i stopped right there.
first of all, he doesn't write, ok?
second, who calls their father Trump?
third, nobody is right about everything.
nobody.

[Tennesseer]

Mar 16, 2022 21:09:43 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Mar 16, 2022 16:34:26 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Trump Was Right About Everything | Opinion
Donald Trump Jr.

Who would have guessed? Donald J. Trump was right about everything.

When my father wrote his book 

i stopped right there.
first of all, he doesn't write, ok?
second, who calls their father Trump?
third, nobody is right about everything.
nobody.

I never got past donald trump Jr. I blindly copied and pasted the snippet.

[djAdvocate]

there is evidence that the most culty of the cult are getting less culty.
the strongly approve numbers are down a couple of percent within the GOP.

i can't remember who did the survey, though.

[happyhoix]

Apr 13, 2022 14:07:13 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

there is evidence that the most culty of the cult are getting less culty.
the strongly approve numbers are down a couple of percent within the GOP.

i can't remember who did the survey, though.

I think it’s the ceaseless whining about the 2020 election. 

He can’t talk about anything else. It’s all about him, all the time. And he’s picking candidates to support depending on how enthusiastically they spout his Big Lie for him - and some of them are seriously crappy. 

Trump won’t ever get over being a loser in 2020, but more and more, I think his minions are over it. Way too many more important, immediate concerns for all of us. All of us except Trump.