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Post by steff on Mar 12, 2021 20:30:22 GMT -5
Harry received a large cash inheritance from his mother & the Queen Mother. Why should his daddy have to fund his security when he could clearly afford it on his own? Saying over and over and over and over that you want to be financially independent means daddy doesn't pay your bills for you anymore. Careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
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Post by justme on Mar 12, 2021 21:30:10 GMT -5
I think a big problem was they didn't have a plan. And they said it in the interview they didn't have a plan. They announced and it pushed a decision but they didn't get 1) a yes from the queen to their loose idea of a plan or 2) what the queen's actual thoughts were nor his father's if they were relying on him to not cut them off before they threw it out there. They said in the interview they only did the Netflix and Spotify deals because his dad cut them off and they needed money for security. So if that wasn't their original plan WHAT WAS IT? That's pretty much where they've lost me (though it's not like I'm on the hate side either, still pretty neutral) because then their plan was either his father keep funding them, they were idiots without a plan, or they're lying. They wanted to be more like Harry's cousins - but his cousins all have more or less normal jobs that while their being royal undoubtedly got them connections and better jobs than they might have otherwise their entire job doesn't exist around them being royal. Meanwhile unless Meghan was going back into acting or lifestyle blogging or Harry didn't do something like start paying himself for being the head of Invictus it doesn't seem like they had a plan to make money that wasn't them making money because they are royal. Which is probably why the queen said no to their half in idea - they weren't going to just get a normal job and help her out when needed.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 12, 2021 21:44:15 GMT -5
Harry received a large cash inheritance from his mother & the Queen Mother. Why should his daddy have to fund his security when he could clearly afford it on his own? Saying over and over and over and over that you want to be financially independent means daddy doesn't pay your bills for you anymore. Careful what you wish for, you just might get it. What i read was he had around $9M from Diana. I don't know if its the whole story, but it sounded like that's what he's got currently.
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Post by dondub on Mar 12, 2021 22:23:02 GMT -5
and again "Lets face it...... If Harry and Meghan weren't Royal..... no-one would give a dam There are hundreds of celebrities in Hollywood, much more talented and much more beautiful. They have used their status to set up an Archewell brand... signed a Netflix deal to produce and make TV programmes. Signed a podcast deal where they can talk about themselves. Oprah interview was just the start of the "poor little me" narrative. So theres the rub..... Its not what Royals do and its bringing the Monarchy in to disrepute." The British Royal family is not rascist. This is hearsay that Harry heard something before they were married..... and the palace is saying that its not what happened. It seems to have been jumped on by all and sundry to promote their own agenda. The "he isn't a Prince because of his colour".... is also misleading. and jumped on by people promoting their own agenda. No-one who has ever met the Royals would ever say they were rascist. How freakkin offensive can you get? The British Empire was notably racist for 1000 years. The Royals are at the top of the heap. The colonialist Brits in Africa and India were especially so. Maybe a lot has changed in the last year or two.
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Post by busymom on Mar 12, 2021 22:55:32 GMT -5
Frankly, IMHO I think their leaving the Royal Family was similar to a woman leaving an abusive marriage. They reached a point where they were willing to leave due to the abuse that outsiders would never see. No matter what the price of their freedom might be.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Mar 13, 2021 4:01:56 GMT -5
It seems the pre wedding wedding claim is highly dubious as well.
""It cannot be right that she married Prince Harry in private, without witnesses, three days before the royal wedding."
He added: "Weddings require witnesses, and to be open to the public, to be lawful under English law, and it is unlawful to get remarried to the same person as would have supposedly happened at the royal wedding."
Mr Oulds suggested: "I think she must have been confused with the rehearsal.""
Absolutely and for a very long time.... What's your excuse?
As for security.......Harry's cousins, Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice, are the Queen's grandchildren, too.
And back in 2011, they were stripped of their royal protection. So again if you choose not to be a working Royal the security goes.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 13, 2021 14:02:22 GMT -5
Harry received a large cash inheritance from his mother & the Queen Mother. Why should his daddy have to fund his security when he could clearly afford it on his own? Saying over and over and over and over that you want to be financially independent means daddy doesn't pay your bills for you anymore. Careful what you wish for, you just might get it. What i read was he had around $9M from Diana. I don't know if its the whole story, but it sounded like that's what he's got currently. Their combined worth is about 50 million dollars. Some say almost 100 million. www.standard.co.uk/news/world/prince-harry-meghan-markle-net-worth-wealth-100-million-california-home-b923925.html
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 13, 2021 14:07:27 GMT -5
Their new mansion has 16 bathrooms and they're crying poverty?
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 13, 2021 15:26:45 GMT -5
They do not own the house, they put $5 million down. A house is only worth what someone pays for it, so saying it is worth 3x what they bought it for is incorrect. The only way houses appreciate like that is when a Russian buys a Trump condo. Most of their worth is tied up in their home. That doesn’t pay the $4 million that their security costs.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 13, 2021 15:37:24 GMT -5
It seems the pre wedding wedding claim is highly dubious as well. ""It cannot be right that she married Prince Harry in private, without witnesses, three days before the royal wedding." So what? They had a private marriage ceremony without the eyes. It doesn’t matter that there were no witnesses there, a wedding was happening anyway so what difference does 3 days make?He added: "Weddings require witnesses, and to be open to the public, to be lawful under English law, and it is unlawful to get remarried to the same person as would have supposedly happened at the royal wedding." Mr Oulds suggested: "I think she must have been confused with the rehearsal."" This is a pretty dismissing statement. I imagine that the vows she and Harry made to each other are the ones THEY consider important.Absolutely and for a very long time.... What's your excuse? As for security.......Harry's cousins, Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice, are the Queen's grandchildren, too. Fair enough......but last I heard their dad is living on the Queen’s dime. Didn't Andrew have a home go into foreclosure? I’m guessing that Eugenie and Beatrice are not as attractive targets as Harry would be.And back in 2011, they were stripped of their royal protection. So again if you choose not to be a working Royal the security goes. I guess this begs to be asked.....if daddy is worth £88 billion and receives over £100 million each year, does this not make his children a target for kidnappers? Wouldn’t you think that as much as they pissed off Chuck, he’d want his son and grandson and soon to be granddaughter to remain protected?
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 13, 2021 16:37:51 GMT -5
for those that missed the original airing, it is on again tonight. I wasn't intending to tune in, but after reading this thread all week, now I'm interested. don't get your hopes up, lol~ all these headlines, "bombshell", etc. I thought it was all very tame and just mildly interesting. There is absolutely nothing negative said about anyone in particular. The worst I think is charles wouldn't pick up a call from harry. It seemed to me that it is hinted that there is a subtle under carriage of power brokers to the queen and other members of the family who advise and determine what press may or may not be addressed, whom can see who, etc. etc. the queen is lovely, kate is nice (but made meghan cry once and apologized), harry and william are giving each other space, and charles wouldn't pick up harrys call at some point - but now was. someone asked about what the kids would look like then again skin tone was brought up when meghan was pregnant with archie,- but no one will identify who is was, but after it was assumed it was the oldsters, it was stated that is was neither the queen nor phillip. So they care enough about whoever said it to protect them. I wonder if we will ever know? Now - the shadowy insiders: meghan got depressed and was suicidal and 'hr' wouldn't let her get help and she wasn't even allowed to go get a coffee because she was 'overexposed' in the press without actually leaving home for months. but have fun watching it! I'd be interet to hear if you thought it was 'bigger' than my perception.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 6:59:13 GMT -5
I prefer to believe that Harry is trying to do what his own father failed to do, be a good husband and father and protect his family. It’s not hard to imagine that would be very important to him, given everything that happened with his Mother. It doesn’t really matter what any of us think happened that caused them to leave, it matters that he apparently believed, for whatever reason, that he and his family would be better off loving his family of origin from a distance. As far as Meghan, I’ve seen remarks about her family, implying that their actions say something about her too. I have close family that I would hope people don’t judge me by, so I consider those comments to be BS. People do not always think and behave just like their parents and siblings. The British press was really ugly toward Meghan. Maybe I missed it, did the family circle the wagons and do anything to make it clear that she was one of them now, and they had her back? That’s what I would think an upstanding, wealthy, powerful family would do if one of their own was being relentlessly attacked for no reason. My life and lifestyle is of course, very different from theirs, so maybe that kind of thing just isn’t done in their world. Shrug. I haven’t seen anything they’ve done that’s so horrible, including the interview (that I didn’t watch ). Except maybe daring to break the “rules” in an effort to pursue happiness instead of suffering quietly until they die inside if not physically. I think expecting the latter is the horrible thing. I respect Harry for not wanting that for his wife and having the balls to get his family away from what he felt was a bad situation.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 14, 2021 12:00:48 GMT -5
it matters that he apparently believed, for whatever reason, that he and his family would be better off loving his family of origin from a distance.
Harry was unhappy so they left the UK for Canada. Harry was still unhappy, so they moved to LA. harry was still unhappy so they moved to Montecito.
If paparazzi is the problem, then they should have stayed in British Columbia. They would have been left alone there, but they moved to the giant fishbowl of California, where drones took pictures of Archie and they did an interview with Oprah.
This does not sound like a couple who wants their privacy.
Something isn't adding up.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Mar 14, 2021 12:09:57 GMT -5
I think a big problem was they didn't have a plan. And they said it in the interview they didn't have a plan. They announced and it pushed a decision but they didn't get 1) a yes from the queen to their loose idea of a plan or 2) what the queen's actual thoughts were nor his father's if they were relying on him to not cut them off before they threw it out there. They said in the interview they only did the Netflix and Spotify deals because his dad cut them off and they needed money for security. So if that wasn't their original plan WHAT WAS IT? That's pretty much where they've lost me (though it's not like I'm on the hate side either, still pretty neutral) because then their plan was either his father keep funding them, they were idiots without a plan, or they're lying. They wanted to be more like Harry's cousins - but his cousins all have more or less normal jobs that while their being royal undoubtedly got them connections and better jobs than they might have otherwise their entire job doesn't exist around them being royal. Meanwhile unless Meghan was going back into acting or lifestyle blogging or Harry didn't do something like start paying himself for being the head of Invictus it doesn't seem like they had a plan to make money that wasn't them making money because they are royal. Which is probably why the queen said no to their half in idea - they weren't going to just get a normal job and help her out when needed. In the interview, they state that their plan was to stay in England but just be "junior" members of the working royals. The problem is that position doesn't exist the way they thought it existed. Now, I don't know whose fault that is or if it really is just a miscommunication. Harry and Megan stated that they wanted to stay there but step back because it was just too much for their mental health and causing too much conflict with "the institution" (I'm still not clear on what "the institution" means). However, their plan and what The Queen/institution agreed to once Harry announced their alteration of duties is not what Harry and Megan thought they were going to do. Hence the move to Vancouver, Canada--where Megan had lived for seven years and in which Harry technically has some type of citizenship. In the interview, they shared that while living in Vancouver, the British press announced to the world their exact location and then "the institution" announced to the world that they were cutting off H&M's security detail. H&M's perspective was "we are not safe". Megan said, well then we're going to back to the US.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Mar 14, 2021 12:12:27 GMT -5
Their new mansion has 16 bathrooms and they're crying poverty? I don't think they've ever cried "poverty". They're saying that the situation for them as senior royals was untenable. Then, they completely miscalculated or misunderstood that in stepping away from a "senior" role they would not be given the same financial considerations as they had been.
It's definitely a snafu, but I don't think they've implied they're actually financially destitute.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 14, 2021 12:13:02 GMT -5
it matters that he apparently believed, for whatever reason, that he and his family would be better off loving his family of origin from a distance.
Harry was unhappy so they left the UK for Canada. Harry was still unhappy, so they moved to LA. harry was still unhappy so they moved to Montecito. If paparazzi is the problem, then they should have stayed in British Columbia. They would have been left alone there, but they moved to the giant fishbowl of California, where drones took pictures of Archie and they did an interview with Oprah. This does not sound like a couple who wants their privacy. Something isn't adding up. The paparazzi found them in BC, didn’t you see the papers? Once they knew where they were, the game was over. They still raked her over the coals. The paparazzi DID NOT leave them alone. The moved because they were living in borrowed homes. One borrowed house to a second to one they bought. Ironically enough, despite living in LA and that goldfish bowl, Meghan managed to have a miscarriage AND get to about 6 months pregnant before anyone knew about either event.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Mar 14, 2021 12:15:10 GMT -5
After considering the interview, I think there's a difference between "wanting privacy" and the desire/permission to be able to "defend oneself" against blatant lies told by the media.
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Post by justme on Mar 14, 2021 12:49:12 GMT -5
I think a big problem was they didn't have a plan. And they said it in the interview they didn't have a plan. They announced and it pushed a decision but they didn't get 1) a yes from the queen to their loose idea of a plan or 2) what the queen's actual thoughts were nor his father's if they were relying on him to not cut them off before they threw it out there. They said in the interview they only did the Netflix and Spotify deals because his dad cut them off and they needed money for security. So if that wasn't their original plan WHAT WAS IT? That's pretty much where they've lost me (though it's not like I'm on the hate side either, still pretty neutral) because then their plan was either his father keep funding them, they were idiots without a plan, or they're lying. They wanted to be more like Harry's cousins - but his cousins all have more or less normal jobs that while their being royal undoubtedly got them connections and better jobs than they might have otherwise their entire job doesn't exist around them being royal. Meanwhile unless Meghan was going back into acting or lifestyle blogging or Harry didn't do something like start paying himself for being the head of Invictus it doesn't seem like they had a plan to make money that wasn't them making money because they are royal. Which is probably why the queen said no to their half in idea - they weren't going to just get a normal job and help her out when needed. In the interview, they state that their plan was to stay in England but just be "junior" members of the working royals. The problem is that position doesn't exist the way they thought it existed. Now, I don't know whose fault that is or if it really is just a miscommunication. Harry and Megan stated that they wanted to stay there but step back because it was just too much for their mental health and causing too much conflict with "the institution" (I'm still not clear on what "the institution" means). However, their plan and what The Queen/institution agreed to once Harry announced their alteration of duties is not what Harry and Megan thought they were going to do. Hence the move to Vancouver, Canada--where Megan had lived for seven years and in which Harry technically has some type of citizenship. In the interview, they shared that while living in Vancouver, the British press announced to the world their exact location and then "the institution" announced to the world that they were cutting off H&M's security detail. H&M's perspective was "we are not safe". Megan said, well then we're going to back to the US. But all the junior royals have jobs that are self supporting* and have no tax payer paid security. So what exactly was their plan to earn money and be self supporting if it wasn't to do exactly what they're doing now? Because that's what they're saying - Netflix wasn't their plan. So what was it? Go into marketing like one cousin? Work in a gallery like another? In finance like another? Expecting Charles to still give them millions a year? Also Meghan lived in Toronto for 7 years - which is on the complete opposite side of the country from Vancouver. Also the American press was the one that shared they were living in Tyler Perry's place and put out photos and then shared where they're living now. *I think a lot of them live in a house that the Queen owns so they're likely not paying for that, but their job titles sound like they could live alone if needed though probably a but less lavishly depending on how much money passed to them individually. Since I know a lot of the Queen's wealth and Charles' wealth is tied up in funds (for lack of a better term) that are specific to the title not the person. ie When Charles becomes King then William will get all the funds that are currently supporting Charles (which he then uses for his kids, or I guess kid now)
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Post by justme on Mar 14, 2021 13:04:08 GMT -5
it matters that he apparently believed, for whatever reason, that he and his family would be better off loving his family of origin from a distance.
Harry was unhappy so they left the UK for Canada. Harry was still unhappy, so they moved to LA. harry was still unhappy so they moved to Montecito. If paparazzi is the problem, then they should have stayed in British Columbia. They would have been left alone there, but they moved to the giant fishbowl of California, where drones took pictures of Archie and they did an interview with Oprah. This does not sound like a couple who wants their privacy. Something isn't adding up. The paparazzi found them in BC, didn’t you see the papers? Once they knew where they were, the game was over. They still raked her over the coals. The paparazzi DID NOT leave them alone. The moved because they were living in borrowed homes. One borrowed house to a second to one they bought. Ironically enough, despite living in LA and that goldfish bowl, Meghan managed to have a miscarriage AND get to about 6 months pregnant before anyone knew about either event. Did they have drones flying over in BC? Because they did when they were living in Tyler Perry's home. I remember flipping through channels and seeing one of the entertainment channels going through what photos of the house they had and speculating on stuff. I think that was more a function of not leaving the house a la Kylie Jenner than them being left alone. I've seen plenty of paparazzi photos show up of H&M since they moved into the house they owned. One time when H&M were going around delivery food to elderly for a charity there were paps following them around to every stop and taking photos the entire time. If she had gone out in public with a bump it would have been found out.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Mar 14, 2021 13:12:33 GMT -5
They put their side across........... knowing full well that the Palace would not respond and their side, is the only narrative that would be told.
Imagine going to court or trying to make a judgement when you only have one side?
What balls? .... Meghan did the talking in that interview and several times when he went to speak.... Meghan squeezed his hand.
Good, then they can pay for their own security........ There are loads of Royals here doing their own thing....How many Princes have been kidnapped?...No-one
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 14, 2021 13:34:39 GMT -5
The paparazzi found them in BC, didn’t you see the papers? Once they knew where they were, the game was over. They still raked her over the coals. The paparazzi DID NOT leave them alone. The moved because they were living in borrowed homes. One borrowed house to a second to one they bought. Ironically enough, despite living in LA and that goldfish bowl, Meghan managed to have a miscarriage AND get to about 6 months pregnant before anyone knew about either event. Did they have drones flying over in BC? Because they did when they were living in Tyler Perry's home. I remember flipping through channels and seeing one of the entertainment channels going through what photos of the house they had and speculating on stuff. I think that was more a function of not leaving the house a la Kylie Jenner than them being left alone. I've seen plenty of paparazzi photos show up of H&M since they moved into the house they owned. One time when H&M were going around delivery food to elderly for a charity there were paps following them around to every stop and taking photos the entire time. If she had gone out in public with a bump it would have been found out. The article I remember seeing was that the house they were in in BC was adjacent to public land, and that was where they were walking the dogs. After they found out where they lived, they couldn’t leave the property without encountering paparazzi. The one pic I saw of Meghan when they were out delivering food, she had on a pair of jeans and a very oversized button up shirt. However, she’s worn them in the past and I really didn’t notice a bump...but then, I wasn’t looking.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 14, 2021 13:52:05 GMT -5
They put their side across........... knowing full well that the Palace would not respond and their side, is the only narrative that would be told. Imagine going to court or trying to make a judgement when you only have one side? Imagine the press coming up with lies, and the people that were supposed to protect you not. Imagine those same people trying to rewrite history. The story of Meghan making Kate cry came out 6 months after it happened, and was the reverse of what actually did happen. Who leaked the story? If I had a WAG, it would be those who were supposed to protect her.What balls? .... Meghan did the talking in that interview and several times when he went to speak.... Meghan squeezed his hand. Good, then they can pay for their own security........ There are loads of Royals here doing their own thing....How many Princes have been kidnapped?...No-one What prince is here without security? The only other royal family I know of who is currently in the US is the king of Sweden’s youngest daughter. Her husband is American, and you have no idea as to their security arrangements, and who is paying for them. None.
Conversely, how many kidnapping plots have been foiled due to security? Do you really think that for 36 years Harry has been alive that the UK would have paid millions of £ for security if this was a not viable threat? Does living elsewhere ameliorate this threat? I don’t think so. Otherwise why would he have had even more security when he travels?
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 14, 2021 14:27:38 GMT -5
After considering the interview, I think there's a difference between "wanting privacy" and the desire/permission to be able to "defend oneself" against blatant lies told by the media.
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Post by Knee Deep in Water Chloe on Mar 14, 2021 14:35:17 GMT -5
In the interview, they state that their plan was to stay in England but just be "junior" members of the working royals. The problem is that position doesn't exist the way they thought it existed. Now, I don't know whose fault that is or if it really is just a miscommunication. Harry and Megan stated that they wanted to stay there but step back because it was just too much for their mental health and causing too much conflict with "the institution" (I'm still not clear on what "the institution" means). However, their plan and what The Queen/institution agreed to once Harry announced their alteration of duties is not what Harry and Megan thought they were going to do. Hence the move to Vancouver, Canada--where Megan had lived for seven years and in which Harry technically has some type of citizenship. In the interview, they shared that while living in Vancouver, the British press announced to the world their exact location and then "the institution" announced to the world that they were cutting off H&M's security detail. H&M's perspective was "we are not safe". Megan said, well then we're going to back to the US. But all the junior royals have jobs that are self supporting* and have no tax payer paid security. So what exactly was their plan to earn money and be self supporting if it wasn't to do exactly what they're doing now? Because that's what they're saying - Netflix wasn't their plan. So what was it? Go into marketing like one cousin? Work in a gallery like another? In finance like another? Expecting Charles to still give them millions a year? Also Meghan lived in Toronto for 7 years - which is on the complete opposite side of the country from Vancouver. Also the American press was the one that shared they were living in Tyler Perry's place and put out photos and then shared where they're living now. *I think a lot of them live in a house that the Queen owns so they're likely not paying for that, but their job titles sound like they could live alone if needed though probably a but less lavishly depending on how much money passed to them individually. Since I know a lot of the Queen's wealth and Charles' wealth is tied up in funds (for lack of a better term) that are specific to the title not the person. ie When Charles becomes King then William will get all the funds that are currently supporting Charles (which he then uses for his kids, or I guess kid now) My mistake. There is a lot of filming in Vancouver, BC, so I made an assumption.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 14, 2021 14:36:08 GMT -5
They put their side across........... knowing full well that the Palace would not respond and their side, is the only narrative that would be told. Imagine going to court or trying to make a judgement when you only have one side? Imagine the press coming up with lies, and the people that were supposed to protect you not. Imagine those same people trying to rewrite history. The story of Meghan making Kate cry came out 6 months after it happened, and was the reverse of what actually did happen. Who leaked the story? If I had a WAG, it would be those who were supposed to protect her.What balls? .... Meghan did the talking in that interview and several times when he went to speak.... Meghan squeezed his hand. Good, then they can pay for their own security........ There are loads of Royals here doing their own thing....How many Princes have been kidnapped?...No-one What prince is here without security? The only other royal family I know of who is currently in the US is the king of Sweden’s youngest daughter. Her husband is American, and you have no idea as to their security arrangements, and who is paying for them. None.
Conversely, how many kidnapping plots have been foiled due to security? Do you really think that for 36 years Harry has been alive that the UK would have paid millions of £ for security if this was a not viable threat? Does living elsewhere ameliorate this threat? I don’t think so. Otherwise why would he have had even more security when he travels?
there was that weirdo who broke into the palance and visited the queen in her bedroom one morning - depsite supposedly high security. princess anne - wikipedia account and given all this vitriol about meghan, I would think she and archie would be particularly in danger of some deranged person doing some stupid, or some general criminal taking advantage to try for ransom.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 16:25:50 GMT -5
They put their side across........... knowing full well that the Palace would not respond and their side, is the only narrative that would be told. Imagine going to court or trying to make a judgement when you only have one side? What balls? .... Meghan did the talking in that interview and several times when he went to speak.... Meghan squeezed his hand.Good, then they can pay for their own security........ There are loads of Royals here doing their own thing....How many Princes have been kidnapped?...No-one Come on, now, let’s be real. Whatever you may agree with or not, let’s not pretend that it didn’t take some big kahunas, guts, courage, or whatever we want to call it, for him to make the moves that he has, given who he is. If you and the British people that you are speaking for here, can’t at least acknowledge that, I’m not even sure there’s a point in trying to have a real conversation about them. I guess the general consensus among people that think like you and disparage him now is that he’s whipped, and content to just follow her lead without thinking for himself. Is that correct?
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 14, 2021 17:51:51 GMT -5
They put their side across........... knowing full well that the Palace would not respond and their side, is the only narrative that would be told. Imagine going to court or trying to make a judgement when you only have one side? What balls? .... Meghan did the talking in that interview and several times when he went to speak.... Meghan squeezed his hand. Good, then they can pay for their own security........ There are loads of Royals here doing their own thing....How many Princes have been kidnapped?...No-one Your detestation of Meghan is palpable and noted.
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Post by chiver78 on Mar 14, 2021 18:00:03 GMT -5
it matters that he apparently believed, for whatever reason, that he and his family would be better off loving his family of origin from a distance.
Harry was unhappy so they left the UK for Canada. Harry was still unhappy, so they moved to LA. harry was still unhappy so they moved to Montecito. If paparazzi is the problem, then they should have stayed in British Columbia. They would have been left alone there, but they moved to the giant fishbowl of California, where drones took pictures of Archie and they did an interview with Oprah. This does not sound like a couple who wants their privacy. Something isn't adding up. if they got cut off entirely from the family, is Canada actually welcoming to them? serious question. Meghan is American. I understand you don't approve.of their choice of location, but that's her home.
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Post by pooks on Mar 14, 2021 22:06:15 GMT -5
I didn't watch the interview. I don't care about the royals, but reading what Spell wrote, improves my opinion of Harry greatly. What a waste for all these people to make a career of being a royal. It seems like all they really need is Charles, William, and then George. Everyone else is getting a crappy deal of total family control. Good for Harry to get out of it.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 15, 2021 13:50:18 GMT -5
Harry received a large cash inheritance from his mother & the Queen Mother. Why should his daddy have to fund his security when he could clearly afford it on his own? Saying over and over and over and over that you want to be financially independent means daddy doesn't pay your bills for you anymore. Careful what you wish for, you just might get it. Even in the UK, the royals are only protected while engaging in official duties, since 2010. Are Harry and Meghan engaging in official royal duties, living in a mansion in California and giving Oprah interviews? No? Then they don't get protection from the Crown. For somebody who has renounced their affiliation with the Royals, they sure seem to want the benefits and perks. Trashing your 95 year old grandmother while her 99 year old husband clings to life in the hospital is unconscionable.
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