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Post by dannylion on Apr 27, 2021 14:28:45 GMT -5
There was a post on our local FB page looking for a cat sitter, but the poster specified no COVID-vaccinated people need apply because they "don't want a vaccinated person coming into their house and shedding the virus all over everything." Apparently, there is a segment of the anti-vax crowd that believe that vaccines contain live viruses and vaccinated people leave a trail of "shed" virus wherever they go. It's hard to know how to respond to something like that since stupidity that profound is probably impenetrable.
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Post by movingforward on Apr 27, 2021 14:36:46 GMT -5
There was a post on our local FB page looking for a cat sitter, but the poster specified no COVID-vaccinated people need apply because they "don't want a vaccinated person coming into their house and shedding the virus all over everything." Apparently, there is a segment of the anti-vax crowd that believe that vaccines contain live viruses and vaccinated people leave a trail of "shed" virus wherever they go. It's hard to know how to respond to something like that since stupidity that profound is probably impenetrable. I honestly don't think I realized how stupid some people are until this pandemic.
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Post by chiver78 on Apr 27, 2021 14:53:18 GMT -5
I just snagged a 2nd appointment at the football stadium, but not til next week. I have an appointment already set for Thursday at the place I got my first shot - a 2+ hour drive, one way. Gillette is about 45min, straight up the highway. debating whether to cancel Thursday or not. I mean, it's only one more week.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 15:23:54 GMT -5
There was a post on our local FB page looking for a cat sitter, but the poster specified no COVID-vaccinated people need apply because they "don't want a vaccinated person coming into their house and shedding the virus all over everything." Apparently, there is a segment of the anti-vax crowd that believe that vaccines contain live viruses and vaccinated people leave a trail of "shed" virus wherever they go. It's hard to know how to respond to something like that since stupidity that profound is probably impenetrable. I honestly don't think I realized how stupid some people are until this pandemic.
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Post by saveinla on Apr 27, 2021 15:40:13 GMT -5
There was a post on our local FB page looking for a cat sitter, but the poster specified no COVID-vaccinated people need apply because they "don't want a vaccinated person coming into their house and shedding the virus all over everything." Apparently, there is a segment of the anti-vax crowd that believe that vaccines contain live viruses and vaccinated people leave a trail of "shed" virus wherever they go. It's hard to know how to respond to something like that since stupidity that profound is probably impenetrable. Are they ok with an covid infected person coming in and shedding the virus all over - I would ask the question dannylion and see what the replies are
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 27, 2021 15:42:24 GMT -5
There was a post on our local FB page looking for a cat sitter, but the poster specified no COVID-vaccinated people need apply because they "don't want a vaccinated person coming into their house and shedding the virus all over everything." Apparently, there is a segment of the anti-vax crowd that believe that vaccines contain live viruses and vaccinated people leave a trail of "shed" virus wherever they go. It's hard to know how to respond to something like that since stupidity that profound is probably impenetrable. Are they ok with an covid infected person coming in and shedding the virus all over - I would ask the question dannylion and see what the replies are Of course they would. Covid is a hoax, dontcha know
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dannylion
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Post by dannylion on Apr 27, 2021 15:57:59 GMT -5
There was a post on our local FB page looking for a cat sitter, but the poster specified no COVID-vaccinated people need apply because they "don't want a vaccinated person coming into their house and shedding the virus all over everything." Apparently, there is a segment of the anti-vax crowd that believe that vaccines contain live viruses and vaccinated people leave a trail of "shed" virus wherever they go. It's hard to know how to respond to something like that since stupidity that profound is probably impenetrable. Are they ok with an covid infected person coming in and shedding the virus all over - I would ask the question dannylion and see what the replies are The answer to that would definitely be interesting! Unfortunately, unreasonable people cannot be persuaded by reason, so on the whole, I think it is best not to engage people wielding weapons-grade stupidity.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 16:45:57 GMT -5
I am currently limiting my cat's exposure to others except for emergency treatment because, albeit rarely, domestic cats have contracted Covid-19. I find this wrong on so many levels.
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Post by Ryan on Apr 27, 2021 17:27:11 GMT -5
Vaccine appointments in my state are wide open. They went from hunger games in Feb to manageable with persistence in March to wide open in April. Almost all the county sites are now walk-in, no appointment needed. You can even pick the vaccine you want.
Not sure if that's good or bad news.
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Post by Tiny on Apr 27, 2021 18:02:12 GMT -5
There was a post on our local FB page looking for a cat sitter, but the poster specified no COVID-vaccinated people need apply because they "don't want a vaccinated person coming into their house and shedding the virus all over everything." Apparently, there is a segment of the anti-vax crowd that believe that vaccines contain live viruses and vaccinated people leave a trail of "shed" virus wherever they go. It's hard to know how to respond to something like that since stupidity that profound is probably impenetrable. Are they ok with an covid infected person coming in and shedding the virus all over - I would ask the question dannylion and see what the replies are Wow. I wonder if I'm still shedding polio and small pox virus - I got those shots as a kid (and have the scar to prove the small pox vaccine.). I'm probably shedding 'shingles' virus, too. And then there Measles, Mumps and Rubella - not sure if I got a vaccination for those (I'm a mid 1960's baby) or if I just got measles/mumps from my older siblings... And since I had chickenpox - that virus has been quietly hanging out inside me too. I could be shedding that virus (especially since the 'shingles' vaccination gave my immune system a 'bump' against the chickenpox virus I already have) And then there's that annoying "cold sore" virus that's hiding in the "nerve cells" of my lower lip just waiting for me to get too much sun or to have a spike in my "lady" hormones to activate. Man, that poster on FB - must be terrified to go out in public... everyone is shedding 'viruses'. But, then again, you can't fix stupid.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 27, 2021 18:34:07 GMT -5
There was a post on our local FB page looking for a cat sitter, but the poster specified no COVID-vaccinated people need apply because they "don't want a vaccinated person coming into their house and shedding the virus all over everything." Apparently, there is a segment of the anti-vax crowd that believe that vaccines contain live viruses and vaccinated people leave a trail of "shed" virus wherever they go. It's hard to know how to respond to something like that since stupidity that profound is probably impenetrable. I honestly don't think I realized how stupid some people are until this pandemic. I used to think I was just above average. Apparently, I am wrong - because there are a lot of really fucking stupid people out there.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 27, 2021 19:13:21 GMT -5
My son got his 2nd shot. They stopped doing the drive through stations and we were inside. It was much, much faster - probably because they had 4x the people giving the vaccines.
We want to have family over for my daughter's graduation. Everyone over 16 on my side of the family is vaccinated. My husband's brother and wife are hard core, Trump yard sign, do their research via You Tube types. I doubt they are vaccinated, and quite possibly their children (and spouses of children) are not either. We would be fine with all of them just skipping it. They don't invite us to much, and often don't accept our invitations - but we feel like we can't invite everyone, except them. We are considering putting "Please fully vaccinate 2 weeks prior". Maybe that will just irritate them away.
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Post by movingforward on Apr 27, 2021 20:30:37 GMT -5
I'm just glad the people I "hang" with are all getting vaccinated. It is sad that my extended family is not getting vaccinated but they are several states away and I don't see them often. All my immediate family, friends and co-workers are either fully vaccinated or received at least their first dose. One friend that I haven't seen in over a year just got her first dose today. We are making plans to get together as soon as she is fully vaccinated.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Apr 28, 2021 8:05:02 GMT -5
My mom and stepdad are dead set against vaccinating. They've replaced their Trump-Pence signs in the yard with "Don't Blame Us, We Voted for Trump" signs now. I do think my mom will come around just because she likes to travel so much and if the airlines put any stipulations in she'll do it, "because she has to", plus all her siblings have gotten vaccinated and they're very close so they influence each other a lot on everything.
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Post by azucena on Apr 28, 2021 9:10:50 GMT -5
I honestly don't think I realized how stupid some people are until this pandemic. I used to think I was just above average. Apparently, I am wrong - because there are a lot of really fucking stupid people out there. DD8 and DD12 are following the covid conversations and logic, so I'm convinced that they are above average adult intelligence. I'm raising geniuses!
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Post by finnime on Apr 28, 2021 9:12:25 GMT -5
Got my second vaccination. Now we wait.
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Post by jerseygirl on Apr 28, 2021 10:05:18 GMT -5
So very weird that someTrump supporters are against vaccine when Trump very much supported Operation Warp Speed
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 28, 2021 10:42:19 GMT -5
So very weird that someTrump supporters are against vaccine when Trump very much supported Operation Warp Speed No shit!!
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 28, 2021 12:18:41 GMT -5
My son got his 2nd shot. They stopped doing the drive through stations and we were inside. It was much, much faster - probably because they had 4x the people giving the vaccines. We want to have family over for my daughter's graduation. Everyone over 16 on my side of the family is vaccinated. My husband's brother and wife are hard core, Trump yard sign, do their research via You Tube types. I doubt they are vaccinated, and quite possibly their children (and spouses of children) are not either. We would be fine with all of them just skipping it. They don't invite us to much, and often don't accept our invitations - but we feel like we can't invite everyone, except them. We are considering putting "Please fully vaccinate 2 weeks prior". Maybe that will just irritate them away. Change of plans for graduation. We will tighten up the guest list and get cousins and Aunts and Uncles off the list. Woo hoo. Family politics avoided!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 28, 2021 12:52:23 GMT -5
So very weird that someTrump supporters are against vaccine when Trump very much supported Operation Warp Speed Keep in mind though he also through the entire thing was touting COVID was a hoax and openly mocked people who wore masks. He routinely discredited and undermined the CDC. As people in RL regularly boasted to me he was a "president who tells it like it is". And he was telling them COVID was a hoax. It's ballooned into such a giant conspiracy at this point Trump could come out and say Jesus Christ told him to tell Republicans to get a vaccine and they still wouldn't because "everyone" knows what Trump really means ::wink:: ::wink:: This is why you don't pander to that crowd. I'll give him the incredibly small amount of credit he deserves for signing the paper to approve funding but that doesn't undo the damage he did pandering to the Q-nuts.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Apr 28, 2021 13:09:28 GMT -5
So very weird that someTrump supporters are against vaccine when Trump very much supported Operation Warp Speed It's not very weird at all. He may have supported Operation Warp Speed, but he did everything in his power to disparage the scientific community in the process. He undercut the CDC and their recommendations, and he pushed the FDA to release the vaccine before the data was in. BOTH of these events are things that have dictated how his minions are going to respond to a vaccine. What TD and I have discussed is the discrepancy of why he signed off on OWS, and yet he secretly got vaccinated and did everything in his power to deny that covid was real. Unfortunately, a huge chunk of the population still thinks that covid is a hoax - and all the deaths are really due to something else. So the fact that there are so many people who are anti vax and Republicans/Trump supporters is not surprising in the least.
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Post by movingforward on Apr 28, 2021 13:25:51 GMT -5
Trump was terrible in regards to COVID and I agree with what drama and mich have said but I also think it goes deeper than Trump (at least from what I have personally observed). I know plenty of republicans that have been vaccinated. Those not getting vaccinated seem to be altogether leery of anything the government does. They have an overall feeling of the vaccine not being "safe" and that it was "rushed." Then you have pastors and other religious leaders also telling them not to take it. It seems to be the perfect storm for anyone who is the tiniest bit of a conspiracy theorist or doesn't believe in science to opt out of getting it.
Then you have a small subset of people that are far from republican. They just don't want anything "foreign" in their bodies. They seem to think that as long as you eat right and exercise that your body will build it's own immunity against anything and everything. It's almost as weird as the far right nonsense...
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 28, 2021 13:28:49 GMT -5
Trump was terrible in regards to COVID and I agree with what drama and mich have said but I also think it goes deeper than Trump (at least from what I have personally observed). I know plenty of republicans that have been vaccinated. Those not getting vaccinated seem to be altogether leery of anything the government does. They have an overall feeling of the vaccine not being "safe" and that it was "rushed." Then you have pastors and other religious leaders also telling them not to take it. It seems to be the perfect storm for anyone who is the tiniest bit of a conspiracy theorist or doesn't believe in science to opt out of getting it.
Then you have a small subset of people that are far from republican. They just don't want anything "foreign" in their bodies. They seem to that as long as you eat right and exercise that your body will build it's own immunity against anything and everything. It's almost as weird as the far right nonsense...
Read The Ghost Map which is about the Cholera epidemic in London. He went into this quite a bit.
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Post by jerseygirl on Apr 28, 2021 14:22:20 GMT -5
Yes I’ve met those full on I’m all natural food and healthy life style and don’t want any drugs or vaccines Fine for them to take chances on their own life and health but they don’t seem to or won’t acknowledge they’re putting others at risk or costing society
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Post by Spellbound454 on Apr 28, 2021 14:28:22 GMT -5
We have just heard tonight that one dose of vaccine can up to halve transmission within the family.... Marvellous www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56904993All we have to do.... is steer clear of some of the nastier variants, which may limit efficacy ....and booster our vulnerable groups in the Autumn. They are almost certain we will get a third wave at some point ... but hopefully it won't be as bad. We (NI) have sent some oxygen making machines to India. Its pretty terrible there at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 15:07:27 GMT -5
I've heard more outlandish reasons for not being vaccinated that I can count. I'm still SMH at my elderly, immune-compromised friend who hangs out with her anti-vax and anti-mask friends, and recently announced she has no plans to be vaccinated for the foreseeable future because a fellow parishioner allegedly told her the vaccine was insufficiently researched and "rushed". Yes, that person is a highly respected medical researcher at a major institution but she's not a virologist or immunologist.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 28, 2021 15:55:34 GMT -5
Over 100 million people have been vaccinated. If people haven't grown a third arm, it isn't going to happen. For those who want to know long term side effects, we will know that in 5 years. Funny thing is, we won't know the long term side effects of a covid 19 infection for 5 years. Sheer idiocy, and why we will see another surge next fall/winter.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 28, 2021 16:47:49 GMT -5
Over 100 million people have been vaccinated. If people haven't grown a third arm, it isn't going to happen. First I don't turn into a zombie and now this. Bunch of dream crushers.😭
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Post by swamp on Apr 28, 2021 17:36:45 GMT -5
Over 100 million people have been vaccinated. If people haven't grown a third arm, it isn't going to happen. For those who want to know long term side effects, we will know that in 5 years. Funny thing is, we won't know the long term side effects of a covid 19 infection for 5 years. Sheer idiocy, and why we will see another surge next fall/winter. I could use a third arm.
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