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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 16:21:17 GMT -5
I think we all have differing risk tolerances in health situations, just as we do in investing. No one we associate with routinely has been vaccinated yet. Most aren't eligible yet due to age, a couple are anti-vax. Fewer than 10% of my county's almost 5,000,000 residents have been vaccinated so I expect herd immunity will take at least a year or more here. They have opened a super site with a goal of 5000 a day but that's a long way from 4,500,000 or so.
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Post by finnime on Mar 11, 2021 17:12:50 GMT -5
I'm really happy. Got DH scheduled for an afternoon appointment on Monday at a very close-by hospital. Phew.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Mar 11, 2021 18:15:46 GMT -5
Nephew-in-law with type 1 diabetes got his first vaccine today. Once he gets his second, he had his nurse wife will both be vaccinated.
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Post by bookkeeper on Mar 11, 2021 21:12:40 GMT -5
DH and I were vaccinated with first dose of the Pfizer vaccine on Tuesday. It was the most excited we have been in months! I have a little soreness at the injection site, but nothing major. I have had tetanus shots that were worse. DH is fine too. We got vaccinated at the 24 hour site at State Farm Stadium in Glendale AZ. Start to finish was about 2 hours. We had registered with the state department of health website to obtain the appointment.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 12, 2021 0:44:55 GMT -5
Woo hoo! Thanks Joe. Now, if I can just get an appointment and supply is plentiful!! Biden Tells Nation There Is Hope After a Devastating Year nyti.ms/3bEpwag
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Post by teen persuasion on Mar 12, 2021 9:03:42 GMT -5
I was in line at the pharmacy yesterday, and a lady I know was asking about how to get an appointment for the vaccine. They couldn't help her - have to go check online, keep checking. She doesn't have a computer, can't you just put me on the list? There is no list, use a friend's computer. No friends with a computer. On and on... Finally I told her we have computers at the library she can use, we'll help her. So I explored the pharmacy's sign-up. It's just "no available appointments, try later". It doesn't appear that there's an online waiting list to get on, or if there is it is email based. We can walk her thru getting a Gmail account, but if she can't check it often it does her no good! I also checked the state eligibility website for myself, to learn. My category won't be added until 3/17, so until then I'm ineligible so can't even try to book an appointment after that date. Nothing showing as available locally, anyway. I tried that pharmacy link posted above (not useful for me, I won't be eligible for pharmacy appointments as they can only do age or teacher categories). The nearest available shots were 3 hours away. Why does Syracuse have a bunch available, but nothing at all in the Western half of the state? Anyways, not useful for my patrons, either. News reports of increased vaccines coming soon quickly turned to disappointment: expected 6500 doses, might get 800. I think pharmacists are instructed to direct people online because they have enough on their plates. Realistically the wait list would not solve the problems since, even if they blasted out 1000 emails a day when vaccines became available, it would still be a rush to get them. What I've noticed in my local pharmacies is that the pharmacist must have the ability to assess the situation and choose to put the customer on a wait list. In that situation you describe, she would go on the call list and the pharmacist would give her a call if they have extra doses. I'm sure if you are a 35 year old first responder, the pharmacist does not put them on the list. As TheOtherMe said, it's policy that everyone has to go thru the online portal. Staff have no access to that online scheduler, because it's SW they've farmed out on their one-off website. It's a small standalone pharmacy, not part of a chain, in a rural village. Unfortunately, there's a large percentage of our population who are not online, at all. There's chunks of our town that can't get ANY internet service. Older citizens are especially likely to never use the internet, and pharmacies can only vaccinate the age eligible (formerly 65+, just dropped to 60+) and *just added* teachers. So they dropped the ball on their target audience by not having an alternate way to sign up non-digital seniors in the boonies. It was also a clerk, not a pharmacist. The pharmacists were not getting involved. Didn't improve things in my eyes that not one of the 8 people up in the pharmacy section were wearing a mask. Seriously, they were tripping over one another, they were so packed in there.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Mar 12, 2021 9:09:17 GMT -5
I was pleasantly surprised yesterday that everyone in Walgreens and in the pharmacy area were wearing masks. It's an unenforceable mandate in that town, but everyone was complying.
It wasn't like that when I got shot #1 and I just wanted to get out of there.
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Post by Ryan on Mar 12, 2021 12:29:23 GMT -5
I think pharmacists are instructed to direct people online because they have enough on their plates. Realistically the wait list would not solve the problems since, even if they blasted out 1000 emails a day when vaccines became available, it would still be a rush to get them. What I've noticed in my local pharmacies is that the pharmacist must have the ability to assess the situation and choose to put the customer on a wait list. In that situation you describe, she would go on the call list and the pharmacist would give her a call if they have extra doses. I'm sure if you are a 35 year old first responder, the pharmacist does not put them on the list. As TheOtherMe said, it's policy that everyone has to go thru the online portal. Staff have no access to that online scheduler, because it's SW they've farmed out on their one-off website. It's a small standalone pharmacy, not part of a chain, in a rural village. Unfortunately, there's a large percentage of our population who are not online, at all. There's chunks of our town that can't get ANY internet service. Older citizens are especially likely to never use the internet, and pharmacies can only vaccinate the age eligible (formerly 65+, just dropped to 60+) and *just added* teachers. So they dropped the ball on their target audience by not having an alternate way to sign up non-digital seniors in the boonies. It was also a clerk, not a pharmacist. The pharmacists were not getting involved. Didn't improve things in my eyes that not one of the 8 people up in the pharmacy section were wearing a mask. Seriously, they were tripping over one another, they were so packed in there. I don't blame the pharmacies. They are just playing by the rules and trying to make it work, while still being able to do their jobs. If they entertained one 65 year old and got them appointment, they'd have 50 more wanting to do the same. Their job is filling prescriptions and administering shots, not helping people book appointments. I get it, it's frustrating and not really fair, but I think most larger places have put some things in place for the elderly. The county centers allow you to call and there does seem to be spots withheld for people calling on the phone. Local pharmacies can do the list to help out people they deem need it. Other than that, any system you put in place will leave people upset if they aren't able to get an appointment.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 12, 2021 12:48:39 GMT -5
Last night, we had dinner outside with a group of friends (in blocks of 5). There were only 3 of us not yet vaccinated as we are not yet 65. The only one under 65 vaccinated is a caregiver to his wife with MS in a wheelchair.
While we were careful, the urgency we felt of last spring/summer wasn’t there. Just the overall atmosphere was different.
One of the women I was talking with last night (also not vaccinated) lives in a retirement community. She has spent her days online getting appointments for her elderly neighbors, whobeithe4 don’t have a computer, or are not computer savvy enough to figure it out. She was telling us last night that there is no problem getting appointments now.
That’s gonna change though.....
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Post by justme on Mar 12, 2021 13:06:48 GMT -5
I think we all have differing risk tolerances in health situations, just as we do in investing. No one we associate with routinely has been vaccinated yet. Most aren't eligible yet due to age, a couple are anti-vax. Fewer than 10% of my county's almost 5,000,000 residents have been vaccinated so I expect herd immunity will take at least a year or more here. They have opened a super site with a goal of 5000 a day but that's a long way from 4,500,000 or so. My parents got their second vaccine today. I'm the only one eligible in my friend group for the vaccine before gen pop and my second one is still 2.5 weeks away. One of my close friends is vaccinated due to being in the trial. My friend group mostly sticks to outdoors stuff, but we'll go inside some places if it's not too packed. Planning some trips with my vaccinated friend - though mostly because no one else wants to go. Once I get my second dose I'll mostly be back to not having the "ugh is this ok to do?" question.
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Post by movingforward on Mar 12, 2021 13:34:35 GMT -5
Random thought of the day...I wonder if they should open the J&J vaccine up to the low risk group and save the other 2 for those in a high risk category. An acquaintance who is 35 and had a relatively mild case of covid (fever for 2 days and bad headache for 4 days) said she wants to wait and get the j&j vaccine because she feels it will be more than adequate for her. Within her industry she could have been vaccinated a while back. This makes sense to me...
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Post by TheOtherMe on Mar 12, 2021 14:18:21 GMT -5
It's still very difficult in Iowa to get an appointment in Iowa if you aren't willing to get up at strange hours to use the computer. Two guys wrote a computer program that goes through the various websites 24/7 and posts to Twitter when and where there are appointments. They are also recruiting people to help the elderly without computer access. Are also recruiting people to drive people for vaccines who either no longer drive or are disabled. I hope these two guys get some kind of award for what they are doing since our governor was so unprepared for vaccine appointments. My county set up their own phone number but you have to take the paper or have access to a computer to get on one of the news websites to get the number. People in some counties are complaining that where they got their first vaccine told them only what day to come back, with no time. When they get there, there are no vaccines for them for the 2nd dose. They are only giving 1st doses. The largest music venue in my area is holding a concert this weekend. Supposedly at 50% capacity but they will have a general admission pit. The County Health Department is having a fit, but the governor says it's okay. Even the venue's manager said once people get beer in them, they won't wear a mask.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Mar 12, 2021 16:22:25 GMT -5
One down, one to go. Although, no lie I did almost pass out in the 15 minute "mass holding pen". It was just a panic attack though, if they would have just let me go outside and take my mask off I would have been fine.
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Post by raeoflyte on Mar 12, 2021 16:48:27 GMT -5
My dad is 3 weeks post 2nd shot. He helped me load and unload my baseboards (separate cars), and he was able to come inside my house and visit for 5 minutes. It was amazing.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Mar 12, 2021 17:18:31 GMT -5
Random thought of the day...I wonder if they should open the J&J vaccine up to the low risk group and save the other 2 for those in a high risk category. An acquaintance who is 35 and had a relatively mild case of covid (fever for 2 days and bad headache for 4 days) said she wants to wait and the j&j vaccine because she feels it will be more than adequate for her. Within her industry she could have been vaccinated a while back. This makes sense to me... It seems that is what they are doing in my area. Vaccinations were just opened to teachers this week. The school districts obtained the J&J vaccines for their employees. Now that I think of it, it must be all school personnel. My daughters best friend is a student teacher and she got the shot today. My cousin works in the office and she got the shot on Wednesday. I’m happy to get jabs in any arms at this point. The faster we get people vaccinated, the faster we can reach herd immunity. I do think we have failed the elderly in PA. If you didn’t have a young person to help navigate the system, you probably weren’t getting a shot. It’s sad how many elderly are still trying to get vaccines.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Mar 12, 2021 17:19:14 GMT -5
One down, one to go. Although, no lie I did almost pass out in the 15 minute "mass holding pen". It was just a panic attack though, if they would have just let me go outside and take my mask off I would have been fine. Was it emotions or just too hot? My cold, dead heart cried!lol
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Post by saveinla on Mar 12, 2021 17:25:34 GMT -5
Random thought of the day...I wonder if they should open the J&J vaccine up to the low risk group and save the other 2 for those in a high risk category. An acquaintance who is 35 and had a relatively mild case of covid (fever for 2 days and bad headache for 4 days) said she wants to wait and the j&j vaccine because she feels it will be more than adequate for her. Within her industry she could have been vaccinated a while back. This makes sense to me... This is what I was wondering also - why not give the J&J vaccine to the low risk groups and younger folks and let them be out and about while the older folks wait for the other 2.
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Post by thyme4change on Mar 12, 2021 17:30:17 GMT -5
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Mar 12, 2021 17:35:12 GMT -5
One down, one to go. Although, no lie I did almost pass out in the 15 minute "mass holding pen". It was just a panic attack though, if they would have just let me go outside and take my mask off I would have been fine. Was it emotions or just too hot? My cold, dead heart cried!lol I have some medical related phobias. I was ok for the shot, but sitting there just waiting to see if I was going to start seizing or foaming at the mouth while EMTs walked between rows of people asking "are you ok?" got my stupid brain imagining symptoms and freaking out.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Mar 12, 2021 17:44:03 GMT -5
Was it emotions or just too hot? My cold, dead heart cried!lol I have some medical related phobias. I was ok for the shot, but sitting there just waiting to see if I was going to start seizing or foaming at the mouth while EMTs walked between rows of people asking "are you ok?" got my stupid brain imagining symptoms and freaking out. Gotcha. I’m the same way with dental work so I get it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 18:01:01 GMT -5
The clinic that we are on a registry for sent out their weekly update. They hope to get 1200 J&J and 1000 Moderna next week. But as of Monday, eligibility must include 50+ folks too. We signed up last Saturday at 6:30 a.m. after I got up at 6 and saw the registry announcement. That may mean we are still far down the list depending on what ungodly hour of the night they opened it up. Still, we are cautiously optimistic for mid- to late-summer vaccinations.
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Post by alabamagal on Mar 12, 2021 18:23:31 GMT -5
In GA they are opening vaccine access to anyone with BMI of 25 or higher. That has got to be about 80% of population. My DS is 6’3” very fit and muscular and his BMI is 26.
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Post by jelloshots4all on Mar 12, 2021 21:24:07 GMT -5
If we lived in Minnesota, my DD would be eligible through both her jobs. WI is not doing airline or food service workers yet. DH said Financial services will be in the next group - which covers DH and DS. DH told me last night when he sat down to eat that Meijer's Pharmacy had left a voice mail and scheduled his Dad for 3/22/21. I called back and cancelled the appointment as they got their first vaccine and the second is already scheduled. I don't know if I would have thought of it, if someone had not mentioned it here. bean29 food service is now eligible in WI
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Post by justme on Mar 13, 2021 1:01:06 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this belongs on another thread, but I'm forgetting what other it might - so mods feel free to move. But a friend of a friend posted this on why the mrna vaccines are bad. And it's hitting over my head. As noted I'm one shot in and I'm not going to skip my second, but just wondering on thoughts since he's all bad for autoimmune and I have them. Just wondering what some with more knowledge than me. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22931049/www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2213219818308237
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 13, 2021 10:34:09 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this belongs on another thread, but I'm forgetting what other it might - so mods feel free to move. But a friend of a friend posted this on why the mrna vaccines are bad. And it's hitting over my head. As noted I'm one shot in and I'm not going to skip my second, but just wondering on thoughts since he's all bad for autoimmune and I have them. Just wondering what some with more knowledge than me. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22931049/www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2213219818308237Not sure there is a big issue/ Millions of doses of mRNA vaccines have been given out with a very small number of immediate reactions. The compound they are talking about, polyethylene glycol, has been used in a number of drugs; chemo for acute leukemia, anti-fungal agents, and with interferon to treat hepatitis C. If these antibodies are important and as ubiquitous as claimed, we should see a significant number of allergic reactions or the vaccines being less effective. We have no indication of either, so I am not sure this is going to be a problem
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Post by stillmovingforward on Mar 13, 2021 11:20:47 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this belongs on another thread, but I'm forgetting what other it might - so mods feel free to move. But a friend of a friend posted this on why the mrna vaccines are bad. And it's hitting over my head. As noted I'm one shot in and I'm not going to skip my second, but just wondering on thoughts since he's all bad for autoimmune and I have them. Just wondering what some with more knowledge than me. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22931049/www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2213219818308237I don't have a medical degree but i do have a significant/severe autoimmune disease. I've had both shots for several weeks now and have had no problems. All my drs and medical students have been 'these shots will be safer then getting covid because covid would devastate you.' Everyone is watching me closely too. But it all seems to be fine. One dr. says he may do an antibody test out of curiosity to see if the vaccine really 'took'.
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Post by justme on Mar 13, 2021 12:33:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this belongs on another thread, but I'm forgetting what other it might - so mods feel free to move. But a friend of a friend posted this on why the mrna vaccines are bad. And it's hitting over my head. As noted I'm one shot in and I'm not going to skip my second, but just wondering on thoughts since he's all bad for autoimmune and I have them. Just wondering what some with more knowledge than me. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22931049/www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2213219818308237Not sure there is a big issue/ Millions of doses of mRNA vaccines have been given out with a very small number of immediate reactions. The compound they are talking about, polyethylene glycol, has been used in a number of drugs; chemo for acute leukemia, anti-fungal agents, and with interferon to treat hepatitis C. If these antibodies are important and as ubiquitous as claimed, we should see a significant number of allergic reactions or the vaccines being less effective. We have no indication of either, so I am not sure this is going to be a problem I don't either! It just came up and the guy was all I refuse to get the mrna ones because of this. And I couldn't find much to what he said but then he came back with those articles and my eyes crossed a bit with all the words. Glad to hear your response! Though like I said I was going to get my second shot either way, was just wondering if it was something or just another a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing instance.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Mar 13, 2021 13:04:38 GMT -5
Not sure there is a big issue/ Millions of doses of mRNA vaccines have been given out with a very small number of immediate reactions. The compound they are talking about, polyethylene glycol, has been used in a number of drugs; chemo for acute leukemia, anti-fungal agents, and with interferon to treat hepatitis C. If these antibodies are important and as ubiquitous as claimed, we should see a significant number of allergic reactions or the vaccines being less effective. We have no indication of either, so I am not sure this is going to be a problem I don't either! It just came up and the guy was all I refuse to get the mrna ones because of this. And I couldn't find much to what he said but then he came back with those articles and my eyes crossed a bit with all the words. Glad to hear your response! Though like I said I was going to get my second shot either way, was just wondering if it was something or just another a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing instance. People think they understand these things when they don't. Almost like doing something makes you better at understanding it. More importantly, all of this is a risk/benefit calculation. There are risks to all decisions in medicine. Looking at something like this in isolation, like he is doing, leads to bad conclusions. And nowhere in those studies do they make any recommendations. It is an interesting finding, the importance of which is unclear, like in much of medicine.
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Post by Happy prose on Mar 13, 2021 14:09:19 GMT -5
Got my second Moderna shot yesterday. With both shots, I got a headache before I got to my car. That was it! I was a little nervous about the 2nd one, but the first headache was worse. I'm extremely happy!
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