January 6th Bomb Exploded

[billisonboard]

Jan 15, 2024 17:05:58 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 15, 2024 16:51:39 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I know. But I posted it in both linked articles in 3135.

i wasn't interested in reading an article about four votes.  that is what 99% of these incidents are.

i was pretty interested in reading an article about 4000 votes.

i was basically asking whether it was something that would interest me.
i only have so much time.  and with each passing year, the value of it goes up.

WTF!

Tennesseer posted this:

Rest of short article here: Virginia elections investigation uncovers missing votes in 2020 — but for Biden

Longer, detailed article here: Prince William County admits election tally in 2020 shorted Joe Biden

He took his time to post not one but two links, one of which he identified as a short article. But your time is so fucking valuable you can't click on a link and read a short article. Fine, but you didn't leave it there. You asked that more of someone else's time be used to post an answer for you.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 15, 2024 17:07:26 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Jan 15, 2024 17:05:58 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i wasn't interested in reading an article about four votes.  that is what 99% of these incidents are.

i was pretty interested in reading an article about 4000 votes.

i was basically asking whether it was something that would interest me.
i only have so much time.  and with each passing year, the value of it goes up.

My two linked articles were not about four votes.

thanks to ken, i am aware of that fact.

[Tennesseer]

Jan 15, 2024 20:09:25 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jan 15, 2024 17:07:26 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

My two linked articles were not about four votes.

thanks to ken, i am aware of that fact.

Your beginning to sound like donald trump. trump hated reading daily intelligence briefings. Just wanted five words or less summaries.

[Opti]

Jan 15, 2024 17:54:33 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jan 15, 2024 17:05:58 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i wasn't interested in reading an article about four votes.  that is what 99% of these incidents are.

i was pretty interested in reading an article about 4000 votes.

i was basically asking whether it was something that would interest me.
i only have so much time.  and with each passing year, the value of it goes up.

WTF!

Tennesseer posted this:

Rest of short article here: Virginia elections investigation uncovers missing votes in 2020 — but for Biden

Longer, detailed article here: Prince William County admits election tally in 2020 shorted Joe Biden

He took his time to post not one but two links, one of which he identified as a short article. But your time is so fucking valuable you can't click on a link and read a short article. Fine, but you didn't leave it there. You asked that more of someone else's time be used to post an answer for you.

You realize people do that every day on this board, right? He can ask, its not illegal. You and others can refuse to do as well.

[billisonboard]

Jan 15, 2024 21:10:20 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jan 15, 2024 17:54:33 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

WTF!

Tennesseer posted this:

Rest of short article here: Virginia elections investigation uncovers missing votes in 2020 — but for Biden

Longer, detailed article here: Prince William County admits election tally in 2020 shorted Joe Biden

He took his time to post not one but two links, one of which he identified as a short article. But your time is so fucking valuable you can't click on a link and read a short article. Fine, but you didn't leave it there. You asked that more of someone else's time be used to post an answer for you.

You realize people do that every day on this board, right? He can ask, its not illegal. You and others can refuse to do as well.

And I can comment on it happening.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 15, 2024 21:00:57 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Jan 15, 2024 20:09:25 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

thanks to ken, i am aware of that fact.

Your beginning to sound like donald trump. trump hated reading daily intelligence briefings. Just wanted five words or less summaries.

oh come on, Tenn.  i am not THAT bad.  i just have an old laptop and limited bandwidth.  i have probably read 100 stories about voter fraud/errors in the last 20 years and nothing amounted to much.  the ones that stand out were all Republican issues of voter fraud surrounding mail in ballots, and excluding valid voters from the polls.  

i just asked a simple question to save time.  i am sorry if you found it insulting.  i know that you and others go to a lot of effort to post here, and i try to read everything everyone posts.  but i will confess: i don't like links.  half the time they lead to a paywall.  so, if you have something important to say, and you want me (and probably some others) to hear it, you should give us enough of the article to make me take the risk/time and leave the board on what is likely, for me, a blind link.

as all of us grow older, our time is more precious.  that is all i meant to say.  to have it framed as "dj doesn't have time for us" is really unfair.  i spend far more time here than most other posters.  i know, because i scan the board when i show up, and most of you are not here.  and that is fine.  you have busy lives, and i respect that.

to summarize: please don't go hard on me for wanting a little more information before i click links.  that is all it is.  nothing more or less.  it didn't earn a WTF or a comparison to Trump, imo.  but for those of you that feel similarly insulted, that was purely unintended.

[djAdvocate]

Jan 15, 2024 21:10:20 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jan 15, 2024 17:54:33 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

WTF!

Tennesseer posted this:

Rest of short article here: Virginia elections investigation uncovers missing votes in 2020 — but for Biden

Longer, detailed article here: Prince William County admits election tally in 2020 shorted Joe Biden

He took his time to post not one but two links, one of which he identified as a short article. But your time is so fucking valuable you can't click on a link and read a short article. Fine, but you didn't leave it there. You asked that more of someone else's time be used to post an answer for you.

You realize people do that every day on this board, right? He can ask, its not illegal. You and others can refuse to do as well.

ah, my one true troll has chimed in.  it is a good day.

listen, bills.  i have you blocked.  if you had any sense of fair play you would stop responding to my posts.  you don't.  you would rather snipe at me in the hopes of getting attention, which is both flattering and a little weird.  or maybe you are just trying to spew your animus on me knowing that there is little or no chance that i will respond to it, thus allowing the critique to concretize on my avatar.  please desist.  tyia.

i have infinitely more time for Tenn.  he is good people.  

[Opti]

Jan 15, 2024 21:20:10 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Jan 15, 2024 21:10:20 GMT -5 Opti said:

You realize people do that every day on this board, right? He can ask, its not illegal. You and others can refuse to do as well.

And I can comment on it happening.

You can. You can join the great irritated on the board too. What is it about this time of year? I know in my case I sleep less because my sinuses and hydration go to hell. 

[djAdvocate]

it is amazing what people do simply because they have the liberty to do so.

MERICA!!!!!

let half starving people die in the Rio Grande while we stand there and watch.

....the envy of the free world....

John Cleese got it right about 20 years ago when he described it as the Death of the Milk of Human Kindness. how did we all get so mean to one another?

bad parenting?

something in the water?

[ken a.k.a OMK]

I was curious so I found an article and read it. Posted a short quote to the number of votes.Then when bills asked for my source I posted a link. 

[billisonboard]

Jan 16, 2024 9:00:18 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

I was curious so I found an article and read it. Posted a short quote to the number of votes.Then when bills asked for my source I posted a link. 

I was curious about the details also so I clicked on Tenn's links to get more information and found the numbers right there. I should have included an emoticon in my post about your source.

[Tennesseer]

Trump complains it was 'ridiculous' he had to 'follow the laws' and leave office

Donald Trump is reinforcing the dictator on “day one” theme he began last month, telling supporters in New Hampshire on Tuesday it was “ridiculous” he had to leave the White House after losing the 2020 election to President Joe Biden.

“When I left, which was ridiculous that we had to leave,” Trump complained, adding sardonically, “we have to follow the laws of our land.”

“But what a ridiculous – ” he continued before changing course to talk about election fraud. The ex-president is facing federal and state charges for his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election, but he told the MAGA crowd other people had cheated.

“Isn’t it amazing? They don’t investigate the people that cheated in the election. They investigate the people that understand they cheated and go after them. But they don’t investigate the people who cheated.”

“We have to have fair and free elections,” he added, before changing topics again.

Trump complains it was 'ridiculous' he had to 'follow the laws' and leave office

Video on X:

[djAdvocate]

we have to have free and fair elections.....

but if i don't like the results, i will throw them out and declare victory.

[Tennesseer]

Washington Post article.

Why Jan. 6 insurrections sent a letter to the Folger Shakespeare Library

While insurrectionists were plotting to storm the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, they took time to write and send a letter to an institution two blocks from their target: the Folger Shakespeare Library, the world’s largest collection of material related to the English playwright.

“We will be blocking access to your building … to prevent our persons of grievance from using you as a loophole,” read the insurrectionists’ letter, which circulated on a pro-Trump message board called TheDonald before the insurrection and was published this month in the Folger’s online archive.

The letter explained that the insurrectionists would create a 2.4-mile blockade “surrounding all buildings to which the U.S. Capitol has underground tunnels to” — including the John Adams Building of the Library of Congress, with which the Folger shares a block — presumably to prevent those inside the Capitol from escaping through the buildings.

“This is nothing personal to the library itself,” the letter continued. “We have no intention of damaging, trespassing, or otherwise altering your facility in any way...We sincerely apologize in advance to any inconvenience this may cause you … we are simply citizens practicing our 1st amendment rights and are only involving you by happenstance.”

The letter was postmarked Dec. 29, 2020, and mailed from Minnesota. But the Folger didn’t receive it until almost two weeks after the insurrection, said Melanie Bender Martin, a spokesperson for the library. The letter is now in the library’s digital archive and will soon be made accessible to the public in the physical archive.

Rest of article here: Why Jan. 6 insurrections sent a letter to the Folger Shakespeare Library

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

Jan 22, 2024 9:45:19 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Washington Post article.

Why Jan. 6 insurrections sent a letter to the Folger Shakespeare Library

While insurrectionists were plotting to storm the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, they took time to write and send a letter to an institution two blocks from their target: the Folger Shakespeare Library, the world’s largest collection of material related to the English playwright.

“We will be blocking access to your building … to prevent our persons of grievance from using you as a loophole,” read the insurrectionists’ letter, which circulated on a pro-Trump message board called TheDonald before the insurrection and was published this month in the Folger’s online archive.

The letter explained that the insurrectionists would create a 2.4-mile blockade “surrounding all buildings to which the U.S. Capitol has underground tunnels to” — including the John Adams Building of the Library of Congress, with which the Folger shares a block — presumably to prevent those inside the Capitol from escaping through the buildings.

“This is nothing personal to the library itself,” the letter continued. “We have no intention of damaging, trespassing, or otherwise altering your facility in any way...We sincerely apologize in advance to any inconvenience this may cause you … we are simply citizens practicing our 1st amendment rights and are only involving you by happenstance.”

The letter was postmarked Dec. 29, 2020, and mailed from Minnesota. But the Folger didn’t receive it until almost two weeks after the insurrection, said Melanie Bender Martin, a spokesperson for the library. The letter is now in the library’s digital archive and will soon be made accessible to the public in the physical archive.

Rest of article here: Why Jan. 6 insurrections sent a letter to the Folger Shakespeare Library

Is this letter part of the evidence against Trump?

[djAdvocate]

they have been claiming for a while that there was no coordinated effort.

this looks pretty coordinated.

[Tennesseer]

Jan 22, 2024 11:46:46 GMT -5 Cheesy FL-Vol said:

Jan 22, 2024 9:45:19 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Washington Post article.

Why Jan. 6 insurrections sent a letter to the Folger Shakespeare Library

While insurrectionists were plotting to storm the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, they took time to write and send a letter to an institution two blocks from their target: the Folger Shakespeare Library, the world’s largest collection of material related to the English playwright.

“We will be blocking access to your building … to prevent our persons of grievance from using you as a loophole,” read the insurrectionists’ letter, which circulated on a pro-Trump message board called TheDonald before the insurrection and was published this month in the Folger’s online archive.

The letter explained that the insurrectionists would create a 2.4-mile blockade “surrounding all buildings to which the U.S. Capitol has underground tunnels to” — including the John Adams Building of the Library of Congress, with which the Folger shares a block — presumably to prevent those inside the Capitol from escaping through the buildings.

“This is nothing personal to the library itself,” the letter continued. “We have no intention of damaging, trespassing, or otherwise altering your facility in any way...We sincerely apologize in advance to any inconvenience this may cause you … we are simply citizens practicing our 1st amendment rights and are only involving you by happenstance.”

The letter was postmarked Dec. 29, 2020, and mailed from Minnesota. But the Folger didn’t receive it until almost two weeks after the insurrection, said Melanie Bender Martin, a spokesperson for the library. The letter is now in the library’s digital archive and will soon be made accessible to the public in the physical archive.

Rest of article here: Why Jan. 6 insurrections sent a letter to the Folger Shakespeare Library

Is this letter part of the evidence against Trump?

Article makes not mention of the letter being current evidence against trump. But I would not be surprised at all if it is discovered in the future trump was quite aware as to what was going to happen on January 6th at the Capitol.

Posting the letter next post.

[Tennesseer]

[Tennesseer]

Only the best of the best came out to support trump on January 6th, 2021.

Defendant in Capitol attack was previously convicted of manslaughter in Iraq

A Louisiana man who was arrested for allegedly attacking police officers during the January 6 Capitol riot was previously convicted of manslaughter for killing a bound Iraqi civilian during Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Edward Richmond Jr, 40, has been charged with felony civil disorder, entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds with a deadly or dangerous weapon, and assaulting, resisting, or impeding police officers, according to the Department of Justice.

He was also charged with several misdemeanours, including disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds, engaging in physical violence inside a restricted building or grounds, and violent entry and disorderly conduct.
Richmond was arrested in Baton Rouge on Monday, reported WAFB.

A decade ago, Richmond faced charges that could have put him away for life, according to Politico’s Kyle Cheney.

In 2004, the then 20-year-old was convicted for shooting a handcuffed Iraqi civilian in the back of the head. His initial charges of unpremeditated murder would have landed him in prison for life, but the panel reduced his charge to voluntary manslaughter, according to the Associated Press.

Richmond was ultimately demoted to private, dishonourably discharged from the US Army, forced to forfeit all of his pay and allowances, and sentenced to three years in prison.

He claimed at the time that he saw the civilian, Muhamad Husain Kadir, "lunge" at his partner, and insisted he did not know Mr Kadir was handcuffed.

"It was a reaction," Richmond said at the time. "I fired in self-defense of another soldier, in which deadly force is authorized."

He eventually fell in with Donald Trump loyalists and was reportedly hired by an unknown individual to serve as their security during the then-president's "Stop the Steal" rally.

A tipster notified the FBI that they recognised Richmond in photos, and identified him as having been a former US soldier.

Rest of article here: Defendant in Capitol attack was previously convicted of manslaughter in Iraq

[djAdvocate]

sounds like the kind of person who would have gladly worn jackboots in the late unpleasantness.

[tbop77]

AProud Boys member who confronted officers during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot was sentenced Wednesday to six year in prison, the U.S. Attorney's Office for D.C. announced.



Driving the news: Marc Bru was also sentenced to 36 months of supervised release and handed down a fine of $7,946 and $2,000 in restitution.



What he's saying: "You can give me 100 years and I'd do it all over again," a handcuffed and shackled Bru said to the sentencing judge Tuesday, per AP.


www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/i-d-do-it-all-over-again-proud-boys-member-sentenced-over-capitol-riot/ar-BB1hcYbo?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=b5ed8f6168e747bd93f5a2d7ea5b9759&ei=92

The sentencing judge should have made his wishes come true!  

[djAdvocate]

would is past tense.

and we don't care.

we only care if he WILL do it again.

100 years should prevent that.

[Tennesseer]

Now go after gym jordan for contempt of congress for ignoring the subpoena issued to him to testify before the J6 committee.

Navarro Is Sentenced to 4 Months in Prison for Stonewalling Congress in Jan. 6 Inquiry

Mr. Navarro was found guilty in September of criminal contempt of Congress, making him the second Trump aide to face penalties related to one of the chief investigations into the Capitol riot.

Peter Navarro, a trade adviser to former President Donald J. Trump who helped lay plans to keep Mr. Trump in office after the 2020 election, was sentenced on Thursday to four months in prison for defying a subpoena from the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.

Mr. Navarro, 74, was found guilty in September of two misdemeanor counts of criminal contempt of Congress. The judge overseeing the case, Amit P. Mehta, rejected Mr. Navarro’s primary defense: that Mr. Trump had personally directed him not to cooperate with the subpoena, and that he believed he was shielded by executive privilege.

“The words executive privilege are not magical incantations,” Judge Mehta said. “It’s just not, it’s not a get-out-of-jail-free card.”

In a testy exchange with Mr. Navarro’s lawyers beforehand, the judge singled out Mr. Navarro’s decision to flout the subpoena even as other aides to Mr. Trump negotiated whether to comply. “I have a great deal of respect for your client and what he’s achieved professionally, I do,” he added. “Which makes it all the more disappointing, the way he behaved.”

Navarro Is Sentenced to 4 Months in Prison for Stonewalling Congress in Jan. 6 Inquiry

[Tennesseer]

Jan. 6 rioter got his sentence thrown out. Then his prison time doubled.

James Little successfully argued that his punishment for joining the pro-Trump riot at the U.S. Capitol was illegal. His reward: 60 more days behind bars.

In a scathing statement from the bench, Judge Royce C. Lamberth said Thursday that he was worried about “further danger to our country” because of Little and others’ “shameless attempts ... to misinterpret or misrepresent what happened” on Jan. 6, 2021. While his audience was Little, a 53-year-old North Carolina truck driver, the judge also alluded to comments made by Republican lawmakers, including what he called a “preposterous” statement from Rep. Elise Stefanik (N.Y.) calling Jan. 6 defendants “hostages.”

“I have been shocked to watch some public figures try to rewrite history,” Lamberth said. “It’s up to the court to tell the truth. I hope a little truth will go a long way.”
Little was first sentenced by Lamberth in early 2022 to 60 days in prison and three years of probation after pleading guilty to illegally parading at the Capitol. But Little’s public defenders argued prison time and probation can’t be combined for a single “petty” misdemeanor charge. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit agreed.

Rest of article here: Jan. 6 rioter got his sentence thrown out. Then his prison time doubled.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Well that backfired didn't it?

[pulmonarymd]

This is what winning looks like

[Tennesseer]

Related article to reply #3173 (above):

Reagan-appointed judge warns GOP's 'preposterous' claims about Jan. 6 could pose threat

[djAdvocate]

as i have said before, we have three branches of government, and two of them failed under Trump.

if he gets in again, there is a good chance the third will fail.

we need to make sure that never happens. and, while we are at it, we can continue shoring up the other two branches, if we have the strength and intelligence to do it.

[Tennesseer]

Matt Gaetz Leads Republican Resolution Declaring Donald Trump Didn’t Engage In Insurrection

WASHINGTON — Republicans led by Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) want Congress to declare former President Donald Trump innocent of engaging in insurrection.

Gaetz and 62 House Republicans introduced a symbolic resolution simply stating that Trump “did not engage in insurrection or rebellion against the United States.”

It’s the latest effort by Republicans to whitewash Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election, which included sending a mob of his supporters to the U.S. Capitol while Congress certified the vote result. More than 1,200 people have been charged with crimes for attacking police and ransacking the building.

The House impeached Trump shortly after the attack for incitement of insurrection. He was acquitted by the Senate.

The House resolution comes as the Supreme Court weighs whether state officials can keep Trump off the ballot for having engaged in insurrection. The 14th Amendment to the Constitution, adopted after the Civil War, forbids anyone from serving in the federal government if they took an oath of office and then engaged in insurrection.

The insurrection case is separate from Trump’s various criminal cases, which include charges related to the riot, such as obstructing an official proceeding.

Republicans on Tuesday said that since Trump has not actually been charged with insurrection, he can’t be disallowed from appearing on state ballots. Experts think the court will likely side with the Trump campaign.

Republicans also downplayed the riot, saying Trump had urged his supporters to be peaceful while ignoring Trump’s statements that people should “fight like hell.”

“President Trump and his supporters were vilified for doing nothing more than exercising their First Amendment rights,” Rep Diana Harshbarger (R-Tenn.) said.

“We would call what happened that day ’a Wednesday’ in the Missouri Capitol,” Rep. Eric Burlison (R-Mo.) said.

Rest of article here:  Matt Gaetz Leads Republican Resolution Declaring Donald Trump Didn’t Engage In Insurrection

[busymom]

I gently suggest that if this happens again, the Capital police step aside, and escort the rioters to the offices of the Republicans who approve of this resolution.  Hopefully, in their agitated state, karma will be allowed to do whatever it is karma does.      Remember, the Republicans were hiding too while the Capital was being ripped apart.  


I'm sadly NOT surprised that Gaetz is behind this.  He's probably hoping for a high post if God forbid Trump gets back in office.  He's a useful toady to the GOP.