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Post by moon/Laura on Sept 17, 2020 8:02:09 GMT -5
I see I have yet more word censors to put in place because you people can't behave like fucking adults.
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 17, 2020 17:23:39 GMT -5
Is libs an offensive word now? Or was there some other word that I missed?
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Post by moon/Laura on Sept 17, 2020 18:08:39 GMT -5
Libs is what I changed the other word (that was offensive) to.
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Post by flan327 on Sept 17, 2020 18:16:11 GMT -5
Libs is what I changed the other word (that was offensive) to. Interesting Hopefully we will both ignore each other
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 18, 2020 3:44:58 GMT -5
Now I'm curious as to what the word is...
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 18, 2020 12:54:22 GMT -5
Not only for his stance on the 2nd Amendment, my main reason for voting for Trump in 2016, was his position on judge appointments. Where he stands so far... Quote; President Donald Trump has made big changes to the federal judiciary since taking office in 2017. Trump has appointed two Supreme Court justices β Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh β as well as nearly 200 other judges with lifetime appointments to lower federal courts.Quote; Trump has now appointed almost a quarter of all active federal judges in the United States. As of July 7, there were 792 active judges serving across the three main tiers of the federal court system: the Supreme Court, 13 regional appeals courts and 91 district courts governed by Article III of the U.S. Constitution. In his first term, Trump has appointed 194 of those judges, or 24% of the total. (This analysis excludes appointees to certain specialized courts, such as the U.S. Court of International Trade, as well as appointees to non-Article III territorial courts in Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands and the Virgin Islands.) www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/15/how-trump-compares-with-other-recent-presidents-in-appointing-federal-judges/Are there any open positions? Or were they able to get them all filled? (I am sure there is always a few unfilled, so I am asking if there are any numbers of consequence.)
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Post by moon/Laura on Sept 18, 2020 12:54:46 GMT -5
OK, @x and flan327. You both need to quit. This isn't the place for your argument. Block each other or whatever you need to do but stop derailing the thread.
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Post by flan327 on Sept 18, 2020 13:05:49 GMT -5
Thanks I am enjoying it here
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Not only for his stance on the 2nd Amendment, my main reason for voting for Trump in 2016, was his position on judge appointments. Where he stands so far... Quote; President Donald Trump has made big changes to the federal judiciary since taking office in 2017. Trump has appointed two Supreme Court justices β Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh β as well as nearly 200 other judges with lifetime appointments to lower federal courts.Quote; Trump has now appointed almost a quarter of all active federal judges in the United States. As of July 7, there were 792 active judges serving across the three main tiers of the federal court system: the Supreme Court, 13 regional appeals courts and 91 district courts governed by Article III of the U.S. Constitution. In his first term, Trump has appointed 194 of those judges, or 24% of the total. (This analysis excludes appointees to certain specialized courts, such as the U.S. Court of International Trade, as well as appointees to non-Article III territorial courts in Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands and the Virgin Islands.) www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/07/15/how-trump-compares-with-other-recent-presidents-in-appointing-federal-judges/Are there any open positions? Or were they able to get them all filled? (I am sure there is always a few unfilled, so I am asking if there are any numbers of consequence.) This is one day old, but the rush seems to continue. Yahoo seems to make an issue of the Senate not working on the covid stimulus instead of judge appointments in the link. I'm understanding that nothing was getting done in the house this week anyway except for a resolution, HB-6666 (Trace Act) Quote; The Senate filled four federal vacancies in California and two in Illinois, Bloomberg Law reported. It is also expected to confirm two additional Illinois judges in short order.news.yahoo.com/mitch-mcconnell-rams-six-trump-151816172.htmlUpdated today, the vacancies stand at 68 www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/judicial-vacancies/current-judicial-vacanciesThere are 870 Article three judgeships in the US, 68 are vacant as of today. I don't know what you would consider of consequence, it's one here and one there.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Sept 18, 2020 14:25:29 GMT -5
The reason there are so many vacancies is that McConnell did not care to bring Obamaβs picks up for a vote and dragged his feet when he could.
The house has already done their part by passing a stimulus bill. You may not like the bill but they passed one. The senate did nothing for months and still hasnβt passed one. The only thing that will be done is a continuing resolution on the budget. I think the budget is more important, your opinion may be different, but I still believe we are in the middle of a crisis
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The reason there are so many vacancies is that McConnell did not care to bring Obamaβs picks up for a vote and dragged his feet when he could. (SFB) Typical action when the Senate is in control of the other party vs the oval office. Forget Harry Reid ? Quote; The House ran another legislative lap around the Senate in September, widening the gap in the number of bills the chambers have passed this Congress to more than 400. With only a lame-duck session remaining, the House since January 2009 has passed 420 bills that have sat on the Senate shelf, according to an updated list provided to The Hill. thehill.com/homenews/campaign/122681-frustrated-house-still-waiting-for-senate-action-on-420-approved-bills
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Post by pulmonarymd on Sept 18, 2020 17:04:27 GMT -5
The reason there are so many vacancies is that McConnell did not care to bring Obamaβs picks up for a vote and dragged his feet when he could. (SFB) Typical action when the Senate is in control of the other party vs the oval office.Β Forget Harry Reid ? Quote; Β The House ran another legislative lap around the Senate in September, widening the gap in the number of bills the chambers have passed this Congress to more than 400. With only a lame-duck session remaining, the House since January 2009 has passed 420 bills that have sat on the Senate shelf, according to an updated list provided to The Hill. thehill.com/homenews/campaign/122681-frustrated-house-still-waiting-for-senate-action-on-420-approved-billsAnd as long as we act as if it was a problem when the other guys do it, and ok when we do it, we get a dysfunctional government. There was a time when compromise was possible, but not anymore. Sad, because neither side is all right or wrong. Things went south when the hastert rule, the majority of the majority was put in place. That and the speaker and the senate majority leader have to much power to control the agenda. Unfortunately, given current circumstances, it is unlikely to get better. To bad, because we are wasting a crisis
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(SFB) Typical action when the Senate is in control of the other party vs the oval office. Forget Harry Reid ? Quote; The House ran another legislative lap around the Senate in September, widening the gap in the number of bills the chambers have passed this Congress to more than 400. With only a lame-duck session remaining, the House since January 2009 has passed 420 bills that have sat on the Senate shelf, according to an updated list provided to The Hill. thehill.com/homenews/campaign/122681-frustrated-house-still-waiting-for-senate-action-on-420-approved-billsAnd as long as we act as if it was a problem when the other guys do it, and ok when we do it, we get a dysfunctional government. There was a time when compromise was possible, but not anymore. Sad, because neither side is all right or wrong. Things went south when the hastert rule, the majority of the majority was put in place. That and the speaker and the senate majority leader have to much power to control the agenda. Unfortunately, given current circumstances, it is unlikely to get better. To bad, because we are wasting a crisis "Never let a crisis go to waste", why am I not surprised you are saying this. Quote; In 1906, a man named William James wrote a paper titled, βThe Moral Equivalent of War.β In short, he was looking for a substitute to war: something which people could rally around and channel their energies into in the same way they do during war time, but without the death and destruction (again, this is a simplified explanation, but it is generally accurate). After WWW I, this search for a βmoral equivalent to warβ took on even greater importance, but world leaders noticed something else connected to the idea of war β the public acceptance of sacrifice!
What leaders realized is, if they could find something that was as dangerous a threat to the nation as a war, but which was not as destructive, they could convince the people to βsacrificeβ for the greater good without the devastation that usually accompanies a war. This βsacrificeβ is almost always connected to giving up the way of life to which the people were accustomed. They would put up with less food, fewer consumer goods, lesser quality of necessities, fewer services and greatly restricted or even the total confiscation of their Natural Rights. In short, they would surrender to dictatorship in the name of βsaving the nation.β ontheroadtodamascus.com/2020/04/26/the-origin-of-never-let-a-serious-crisis-go-to-waste/
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And as long as we act as if it was a problem when the other guys do it, and ok when we do it, we get a dysfunctional government. There was a time when compromise was possible, but not anymore. Sad, because neither side is all right or wrong. Things went south when the hastert rule, the majority of the majority was put in place. That and the speaker and the senate majority leader have to much power to control the agenda. Unfortunately, given current circumstances, it is unlikely to get better. To bad, because we are wasting a crisis "Never let a crisis go to waste", why am I not surprised you are saying this.Β Quote; Β In 1906, a man named William James wrote a paper titled, βThe Moral Equivalent of War.β In short, he was looking for a substitute to war: something which people could rally around and channel their energies into in the same way they do during war time, but without the death and destruction (again, this is a simplified explanation, but it is generally accurate). After WWW I, this search for a βmoral equivalent to warβ took on even greater importance, but world leaders noticed something else connected to the idea of war β the public acceptance of sacrifice!
What leaders realized is, if they could find something that was as dangerous a threat to the nation as a war, but which was not as destructive, they could convince the people to βsacrificeβ for the greater good without the devastation that usually accompanies a war. This βsacrificeβ is almost always connected to giving up the way of life to which the people were accustomed. They would put up with less food, fewer consumer goods, lesser quality of necessities, fewer services and greatly restricted or even the total confiscation of their Natural Rights. In short, they would surrender to dictatorship in the name of βsaving the nation.βΒ ontheroadtodamascus.com/2020/04/26/the-origin-of-never-let-a-serious-crisis-go-to-waste/Cynical. Do you not agree that things cannot continue as they are? Now would be as good a time as any to try to come to an agreement as to how to proceed forward. Given our current political stalemate, I do not see how things will change otherwise. Maybe we havenβt had enough pain to want to come together.
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Post by dondub on Sept 18, 2020 23:30:23 GMT -5
Judges?!?! Oh shit.π‘
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 19, 2020 12:08:06 GMT -5
who calls himself the Grim Reaper?
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"Never let a crisis go to waste", why am I not surprised you are saying this. Quote; In 1906, a man named William James wrote a paper titled, βThe Moral Equivalent of War.β In short, he was looking for a substitute to war: something which people could rally around and channel their energies into in the same way they do during war time, but without the death and destruction (again, this is a simplified explanation, but it is generally accurate). After WWW I, this search for a βmoral equivalent to warβ took on even greater importance, but world leaders noticed something else connected to the idea of war β the public acceptance of sacrifice!
What leaders realized is, if they could find something that was as dangerous a threat to the nation as a war, but which was not as destructive, they could convince the people to βsacrificeβ for the greater good without the devastation that usually accompanies a war. This βsacrificeβ is almost always connected to giving up the way of life to which the people were accustomed. They would put up with less food, fewer consumer goods, lesser quality of necessities, fewer services and greatly restricted or even the total confiscation of their Natural Rights. In short, they would surrender to dictatorship in the name of βsaving the nation.β ontheroadtodamascus.com/2020/04/26/the-origin-of-never-let-a-serious-crisis-go-to-waste/ Cynical. Do you not agree that things cannot continue as they are? Now would be as good a time as any to try to come to an agreement as to how to proceed forward. Given our current political stalemate, I do not see how things will change otherwise. Maybe we havenβt had enough pain to want to come together. Reality, you're the one using the phrase. Since the Democratic Party lays claim to being the forward moving progressives, I'll expect them to be the ones to end partisan leveraging. Is that happening in the recently achieved majority in the House ?
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Quote; Ruth Bader Ginsburg became a heroine to the American left after overcoming entrenched sexism in the legal profession to ascend to the U.S. Supreme Court, where she championed gender equality and other liberal causes during 27 years on the bench.Quote; G insburg, who died on Friday at age 87 of complications from pancreatic cancer, was a fierce advocate for womenβs rights - winning major gender-discrimination cases before the Supreme Court - before being appointed to the top U.S. judicial body by Democratic President Bill Clinton in 1993. The diminutive dynamo became the courtβs leading liberal voice.www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-ginsburg-obituary-idUSKBN26A003
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Post by pulmonarymd on Sept 20, 2020 10:22:34 GMT -5
Cynical. Do you not agree that things cannot continue as they are? Now would be as good a time as any to try to come to an agreement as to how to proceed forward. Given our current political stalemate, I do not see how things will change otherwise. Maybe we havenβt had enough pain to want to come together. Reality.Β Since the Democratic Party lays claim to being the forward moving progressives, I'll expect them to be the ones to end partisan leveraging.Β Is that happening in the recently achieved majority in the House ? Obviously the Democrats will have to compromise. Why should we expect that at all from republicans. Especially since McConnell has no conscience
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 20, 2020 14:04:31 GMT -5
I've lost faith in this country. Congrats Mitch McConnell. You did exactly what you set out to do - destroy this country so you could build whatever the fuck you want.
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Reality. Since the Democratic Party lays claim to being the forward moving progressives, I'll expect them to be the ones to end partisan leveraging. Is that happening in the recently achieved majority in the House ? Obviously the Democrats will have to compromise. Why should we expect that at all from republicans. Especially since McConnell has no conscience Exactly, Harry Reid returned us to the original way to appoint judges. (See previous posts, links.) It was wonderful, and without complaints of destroying the country, while he worked hand and hand with Obama Then they lost the Senate by the will of the US public, and the shoe is now on the other foot. So obviously yes, it's the Democrats turn to compromise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 15:05:02 GMT -5
I've lost faith in this country. Congrats Mitch McConnell. You did exactly what you set out to do - destroy this country so you could build whatever the fuck you want. I have not lost faith in this country. I believe everyone gets a chance to get some of what they want. The political pendulum will continue to swing back and forth.
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Post by flan327 on Sept 20, 2020 15:47:13 GMT -5
Mitch McConnell has shown that he wants only ONE THING:
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 20, 2020 19:31:07 GMT -5
I've lost faith in this country. Congrats Mitch McConnell. You did exactly what you set out to do - destroy this country so you could build whatever the fuck you want. I have not lost faith in this country. I believe everyone gets a chance to get some of what they want. The political pendulum will continue to swing back and forth. that is far more optimism than I have.
I have been watching the political center move right for FOURTY YEARS. I have feared the US becoming a fascist state since I was a teenager. I fear it now more than ever.
i wish i could find comfort in the fact that you don't, but i don't. fortunately, i don't need to. but i pity those that do.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 20, 2020 19:32:34 GMT -5
then again, i should probably note that i never had any faith in this country. countries are only as good as those that run them. and men are not worthy of faith.
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Mitch McConnell has shown that he wants only ONE THING: POWER π€π½π€ From an ignorant/narrow viewpoint, that would be true. However, without meeting the wants of his constituents, he would not have retained his seat in the Senate. Nor have been voted in as Senate majority leader.
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I have not lost faith in this country. I believe everyone gets a chance to get some of what they want. The political pendulum will continue to swing back and forth. that is far more optimism than I have.
I have been watching the political center move right for FOURTY YEARS. I have feared the US becoming a fascist state since I was a teenager. I fear it now more than ever.
i wish i could find comfort in the fact that you don't, but i don't. fortunately, i don't need to. but i pity those that do.
All countries have some fascist tendency baked in, how can they not. Just like they have the liberal counterbalance in place also. I don't see us anywhere near, going by the definition. I retain a positive outlook because things really aren't nowhere near a traditional fascist state, nor the opposite. I prefer to stay in the middle, where we are.
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 21, 2020 9:13:02 GMT -5
that is far more optimism than I have.
I have been watching the political center move right for FOURTY YEARS. I have feared the US becoming a fascist state since I was a teenager. I fear it now more than ever.
i wish i could find comfort in the fact that you don't, but i don't. fortunately, i don't need to. but i pity those that do.
All countries have some fascist tendency baked in, how can they not. Just like they have the liberal counterbalance in place also. I don't see us anywhere near, going by the definition. I retain a positive outlook because things really aren't nowhere near a traditional fascist state, nor the opposite. I prefer to stay in the middle, where we are. "Middle" is certainly the best place to be in this country. If you can convince people you are "there" (or at least the others are far fringe from it), you have got it made.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 21, 2020 14:50:22 GMT -5
that is far more optimism than I have.
I have been watching the political center move right for FOURTY YEARS. I have feared the US becoming a fascist state since I was a teenager. I fear it now more than ever.
i wish i could find comfort in the fact that you don't, but i don't. fortunately, i don't need to. but i pity those that do.
All countries have some fascist tendency baked in, how can they not. Just like they have the liberal counterbalance in place also. I don't see us anywhere near, going by the definition. I retain a positive outlook because things really aren't nowhere near a traditional fascist state, nor the opposite. I prefer to stay in the middle, where we are. i could list the case for it, right here, but really i have no time for such exercises in futility. you won't agree. i get that. i am sure that Germans in 1932 could not see what awaited them, either.
for the record, i hope i am wrong. this was once a great country, and could be one again. but it really has to start in a few short weeks, or i am afraid we have swung outside "stable equilibrium".
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All countries have some fascist tendency baked in, how can they not. Just like they have the liberal counterbalance in place also. I don't see us anywhere near, going by the definition. I retain a positive outlook because things really aren't nowhere near a traditional fascist state, nor the opposite. I prefer to stay in the middle, where we are. i could list the case for it, right here, but really i have no time for such exercises in futility. you won't agree. i get that. i am sure that Germans in 1932 could not see what awaited them, either.
for the record, i hope i am wrong. this was once a great country, and could be one again. but it really has to start in a few short weeks, or i am afraid we have swung outside "stable equilibrium".
Thanks. (bolded) Like this ? Quote; 1 1 hours ago Β· Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., spoke like a fascist when he vowed that "nothing is off the table" if President Trump goes forward with a nomination to replace late Supreme Court ..www.foxnews.com/media/mark-levin-chuck-schumer-fascist-brownshirt-totalitarian
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