What does reopening look like in YOUR state?

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Jul 25, 2020 15:53:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Jul 25, 2020 15:38:53 GMT -5 @donethat said:

I do feel better with a mask and now that I have more disposable ones, I may try it when I'm working in the yard for an extended period.  Our neighborhood is covered in crepe myrtles (I have 5 myself) and they have recently gone through major blooming and everything outdoors is covered in pollen.  At least Hanna's rain is washing us down now.  

I was at a Kroger food store yesterday and they had a table full of individual paper masks for sale. I was impressed. Paper towels are now back and well stocked. The only thing they never have in stock for mid-day shoppers are disinfectant sprays and cleaners.

My Aldi now has 50-count boxes of disposable masks at the register for a decent price.  No disinfectant sprays or cleaners though.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Jul 25, 2020 16:59:30 GMT -5 @donethat said:

Jul 25, 2020 15:53:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I was at a Kroger food store yesterday and they had a table full of individual paper masks for sale. I was impressed. Paper towels are now back and well stocked. The only thing they never have in stock for mid-day shoppers are disinfectant sprays and cleaners.

My Aldi now has 50-count boxes of disposable masks at the register for a decent price.  No disinfectant sprays or cleaners though.

Yep.  I noticed Costco has a box of 50 disposable masks for $18.  I think I paid about $30 for the box from Amazon last month.  

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Damn, you can get 10 disposable masks here in a pack and they are $10.

I bought a couple packs but can't breathe if I wear one. I cut a t-shirt and that seems a bit better. 

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Aldi was 50 for $29.99 which is awesome locally; anything under $1 each is good for us.

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I don't honestly know what the numbers are here anymore.  Every news channel and website has something different.  I don't think it's pretty although some sources say we are leveling off.  There are so many variables in reporting and no standardized source.

[thyme4change]

Jul 25, 2020 13:40:36 GMT -5 lurkyloo said:

Jul 25, 2020 12:04:54 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

I haven't been too concerned with minor symptoms that seem innocuous. Sneezing is a given - minor allergies. Smell, I don't think about. However, a couple of weekends ago, a friend came over to swim (float would be a more accurate description). We were outside the whole time, but probably 3 feet apart, not 6 feet apart. After she left, I felt super weird. Extremely tired and just "not right". I went to bed, and didn't have a fever or nausea or anything. I woke up feeling hung over, even though I hadn't drank anything the night before. I lazed around the next day, and it seemed to have passed. I didn't know if I should tell her, but it didn't seem to be Covid. It has now been two weeks, and nobody is even a little sick - so that must have been something else.

Almost certainly something else...but even if you had caught CV from her, it should have taken at least a couple of days before you’d notice anything wrong.  

The smell thing is apparently real though-not a universal symptom, but unique enough that it’s a pretty selective indicator/unlikely to be allergies or garden variety cold.  There was a report today that CV attacks the olfactory epithelium that supports the sensory neurons rather than the neurons themselves.  

If I had thought it was Covid, it would have been that picked it up elsewhere and exposed her, not that she brought it to me and I instantly got sick. I know that isn't how this works. In retrospect, I think I missed my meds one day. That always wrecks me.

[lurkyloo]

Jul 25, 2020 22:39:08 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Jul 25, 2020 13:40:36 GMT -5 lurkyloo said:

Almost certainly something else...but even if you had caught CV from her, it should have taken at least a couple of days before you’d notice anything wrong.  

The smell thing is apparently real though-not a universal symptom, but unique enough that it’s a pretty selective indicator/unlikely to be allergies or garden variety cold.  There was a report today that CV attacks the olfactory epithelium that supports the sensory neurons rather than the neurons themselves.  

If I had thought it was Covid, it would have been that picked it up elsewhere and exposed her, not that she brought it to me and I instantly got sick. I know that isn't how this works. In retrospect, I think I missed my meds one day. That always wrecks me.

Ah, sorry I misunderstood!  Glad you have an alternative explanation 

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Jul 25, 2020 20:09:48 GMT -5 @donethat said:

I don't honestly know what the numbers are here anymore.  Every news channel and website has something different.  I don't think it's pretty although some sources say we are leveling off.  There are so many variables in reporting and no standardized source.

This is a HUGE part of the problem.

I see on our local FB page today that testing is all crap, no one actually dies of COVID because they make that number up by testing everyone who dies and if they happened to have COVID it's the cause of death, the democrats and CNN made this up to get their hero Trump out of office, etc...

I have no more patience for the US "leadership" or stupid people. The first is lacking, the second seems to be out-breeding the educated.

[TheOtherMe]

The problem here with numbers of cases is that the website was changed so it's in real time.  That means if you don't check it at the same time every day, you can't get the true numbers for the last day.

At least they haven't made it so the public can't access it.

[lurkyloo]

Jul 25, 2020 10:53:08 GMT -5 finnime said:

You're right, lurkyloo , our numbers today are ugly. We need an emoticon in a mask.

Numbers are about half today of what they were yesterday and it looks like VA had a spike yesterday too.  Based on that and the number of tests reported I’d say yesterday was probably the result of one or more testing labs clearing out a backlog.  Which is not great news for the 7 day average but more reassuring than thinking it’s the beginning of a giant spike.

I’m having a really hard time staying positive* these days.  Looking at the wider news, it’s not just the US...reopening = a surge that starts to show up about six weeks later.  The implications are that there will be no return to anything approaching normal for a long time, maybe years.

Could someone please tell me that it’ll all be okay soon?  Lies cheerfully accepted.




*positive = just enough to be able to function 

[wvugurl26]

Jul 26, 2020 10:58:23 GMT -5 lurkyloo said:

Jul 25, 2020 10:53:08 GMT -5 finnime said:

You're right, lurkyloo , our numbers today are ugly. We need an emoticon in a mask.

Numbers are about half today of what they were yesterday and it looks like VA had a spike yesterday too.  Based on that and the number of tests reported I’d say yesterday was probably the result of one or more testing labs clearing out a backlog.  Which is not great news for the 7 day average but more reassuring than thinking it’s the beginning of a giant spike.

I’m having a really hard time staying positive* these days.  Looking at the wider news, it’s not just the US...reopening = a surge that starts to show up about six weeks later.  The implications are that there will be no return to anything approaching normal for a long time, maybe years.

Could someone please tell me that it’ll all be okay soon?  Lies cheerfully accepted.




*positive = just enough to be able to function 

Yesterday was super ugly so that's good to know. I've heard people waiting 4-5 days to get results so it could be the backlog clearly. I wish I knew when it was ending.

Several restaurants near me have closed for cleaning and testing of staff. Their Facebook posts are always sure to emphasize it's young staff who tested positive. I'm beginning to be annoyed by that. I know plenty of middle aged and old people who don't take it seriously.

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Jul 26, 2020 10:58:23 GMT -5 lurkyloo said:

Jul 25, 2020 10:53:08 GMT -5 finnime said:

I’m having a really hard time staying positive* these days.  Looking at the wider news, it’s not just the US...reopening = a surge that starts to show up about six weeks later.  The implications are that there will be no return to anything approaching normal for a long time, maybe years.

Could someone please tell me that it’ll all be okay soon?  Lies cheerfully accepted.




*positive = just enough to be able to function 

Many states report lower numbers on the weekends. 

It will be okay! You are fine. Your people are fine! You have shelter, food, clothing, and things you can still do that you enjoy.

I actually do have optimism. I remember saying when this started that I think life will change for everyone and we need to find a new normal.

For someone like me who likes to be home all the time or out alone finding pretty rocks, the change isn't as drastic. For someone who loses a job with a high income, can't pay their mortgage, or has school-aged kids, the changes are a lot bigger and more stressful. 

The weirdest thing is life seems to be flipped over at the moment. Jobs like teaching that were seen as some of the most stable no longer are. WalMart workers are now essential.

I hope we end up at some point with a cure/treatment for COVID and a business environment that's more friendly to workers. I hope we find a way to get more balance in pay. We also must fix our healthcare system.


 

[lurkyloo]

Jul 26, 2020 12:11:27 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

Jul 26, 2020 10:58:23 GMT -5 lurkyloo said:

I’m having a really hard time staying positive* these days.  Looking at the wider news, it’s not just the US...reopening = a surge that starts to show up about six weeks later.  The implications are that there will be no return to anything approaching normal for a long time, maybe years.

Could someone please tell me that it’ll all be okay soon?  Lies cheerfully accepted.




*positive = just enough to be able to function 

Many states report lower numbers on the weekends. 

It will be okay! You are fine. Your people are fine! You have shelter, food, clothing, and things you can still do that you enjoy.

I actually do have optimism. I remember saying when this started that I think life will change for everyone and we need to find a new normal.

For someone like me who likes to be home all the time or out alone finding pretty rocks, the change isn't as drastic. For someone who loses a job with a high income, can't pay their mortgage, or has school-aged kids, the changes are a lot bigger and more stressful. 

The weirdest thing is life seems to be flipped over at the moment. Jobs like teaching that were seen as some of the most stable no longer are. WalMart workers are now essential.

I hope we end up at some point with a cure/treatment for COVID and a business environment that's more friendly to workers. I hope we find a way to get more balance in pay. We also must fix our healthcare system.


 

Thank you    I’m just sad bc I don’t see an easy way out or a return to quasi normal...but you’re right, we personally are okay.  We can keep doing this if we have to, and that’s a privilege in itself.

Also Moderna is starting phase III trials on its vaccine tomorrow.  Fingers crossed.

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Jul 26, 2020 13:10:04 GMT -5 lurkyloo said:

Jul 26, 2020 12:11:27 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

Thank you    I’m just sad bc I don’t see an easy way out or a return to quasi normal...but you’re right, we personally are okay.  We can keep doing this if we have to, and that’s a privilege in itself.

Also Moderna is starting phase III trials on its vaccine tomorrow.  Fingers crossed.

There used to be a saying back in the day that something was a mindf#$k. Apparently, pandemics qualify. Who knew? lol 

When it gets in my head, I try to turn off the technology and go outside. Or, I play a game with DS. Or I brush the dog. I make a mess with paint. I try to do the things I still can and try not to worry too far into the future.

I got that same advice when my DS was randomly born a dwarf. Everyone who had dwarf kids and other dwarf adults assured me he would grow up and have a great life and kindergarten wasn't the time to be worried if he will find a date to the prom. (He did.)  

But, it's still easier said than done.

[bobosensei]

Cases in Georgia are rising.  The only states worse off are California, Florida, Texas, New York, New Jersey, and Illinois.  And we aren't too far behind Illinois now.  Just in time for some schools to be opening up here in person on August 3.  I'm not as concerned with the younger grades since supposedly they don't spread the virus as easily, but the middle and high schools are going to be passing this around to the teachers and families like nobodies business.

I have a dental cleaning scheduled for Tuesday.  The self pay is only 104 and I have my HSA so I decided to just go ahead with it.  The dentist office has been in touch several times via email and even a phone call when they checked on my insurance.  And not a single word about anything I need to do.

[Lizard Queen]

August 3--holy crap, that's early!

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My rural county posted 2 more cases again today. 

[lynnerself]

Fortunately our schools don't open until after Labor Day. The state has listed some comprehensive guidelines, but individual school districts decide which path to use.

It looks like in my area parents will have 2 options, blended learning (2-4 days in school depending on grade) or enrolling in a completely online program.

[oakheart]

The state of Illinois posted 1,426 new confirmed cases of Covid-19 on July 25, 2020.  That number is really high.

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from local tv station 19 HOURS AGO



The number of Houston-area coronavirus cases is at 98,354 with 1,029 deaths and 39,843 recoveries

[pulmonarymd]

Jul 26, 2020 10:58:23 GMT -5 lurkyloo said:

Jul 25, 2020 10:53:08 GMT -5 finnime said:

You're right, lurkyloo , our numbers today are ugly. We need an emoticon in a mask.

Numbers are about half today of what they were yesterday and it looks like VA had a spike yesterday too.  Based on that and the number of tests reported I’d say yesterday was probably the result of one or more testing labs clearing out a backlog.  Which is not great news for the 7 day average but more reassuring than thinking it’s the beginning of a giant spike.

I’m having a really hard time staying positive* these days.  Looking at the wider news, it’s not just the US...reopening = a surge that starts to show up about six weeks later.  The implications are that there will be no return to anything approaching normal for a long time, maybe years.

Could someone please tell me that it’ll all be okay soon?  Lies cheerfully accepted.




*positive = just enough to be able to function 

The positive aspect of this, we can improve our situation if we choose to. We need to follow public health recommendations. If we do, cases will decline and stabilize at a lower number, as you can see looking at the northeast and the EU.

The negative is the virus is not going away, and how it acts is based on our behavior

Finally, as past pandemics have shown, it will eventually burn out. Either it mutates to a less virulent infection and will cause a milder illness we can accept, or it kills off the most susceptible of us. Lots of people will die if the latter scenario comes to pass, but those of us who survive can live a more or less normal life

[bobosensei]

Jul 26, 2020 15:58:17 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

August 3--holy crap, that's early!

Yeah what is interesting is that all the surrounding counties that are starting virtually have all even delayed their starts anywhere from 3-6 weeks.  I keep thinking at the last minute the county will put a stop to this, but who knows.  The teachers start back tomorrow for preplanning.

[movingforward]

Jul 26, 2020 22:54:52 GMT -5 bobosensei said:

Jul 26, 2020 15:58:17 GMT -5 Lizard Queen said:

August 3--holy crap, that's early!

Yeah what is interesting is that all the surrounding counties that are starting virtually have all even delayed their starts anywhere from 3-6 weeks.  I keep thinking at the last minute the county will put a stop to this, but who knows.  The teachers start back tomorrow for preplanning.

Hate to say it, but your state may be a good case study for the rest of us...where i live the first 3 weeks will be online and then a hybrid starting after Labor Day.

[Lizard Queen]

My state's schools start after Labor day by law, but a lot of districts were getting waivers to start a little earlier. I'm still waiting to see what they're planning.

[wvugurl26]

flamingo I'm not sure if you cancelled the gym membership yet? I just got an email from Planet Fitness. They are offering to freeze memberships until masks are no longer required in clubs. The email said to contact your local club.

[flamingo]

Jul 27, 2020 11:11:47 GMT -5 wvugurl26 said:

flamingo I'm not sure if you cancelled the gym membership yet? I just got an email from Planet Fitness. They are offering to freeze memberships until masks are no longer required in clubs. The email said to contact your local club.

Ha! I just read that email. My local club is making me go in person to do anything about it. I still think I'm going to cancel. My Dh isn't yet ready to cancel and he has the fancy membership that lets him take a friend, so if we ever feel safe going again, I'll just go with him. 

It will easily be 2021 before I feel like I can trust anything here well enough to go back to the gym. I'm certain bringing students back is going to up our cases and cause things to shut down again. 

[wvugurl26]

I have to drop off a package to the UPS store today. The gym is in the same plaza so I might pop in and ask.

[oakheart]

I am a member of LA Fitness. In my area they closed the gyms for 2.5 months.  Now they are open again although I have not been back since they reopened.  Right after I received my $1200.00 stimulus check I ended up buying new tires and inner tubes on my old 10 speed bike and have been riding that around my neighborhood. I also get exercise cutting the grass and gardening etc.  My R/S hip hurts to much to be doing to much running. 

[resolution]

Jul 26, 2020 13:10:04 GMT -5 lurkyloo said:

Thank you    I’m just sad bc I don’t see an easy way out or a return to quasi normal...but you’re right, we personally are okay.  We can keep doing this if we have to, and that’s a privilege in itself.

Also Moderna is starting phase III trials on its vaccine tomorrow.  Fingers crossed.

I am still hopeful that a vaccine will get us interacting normally again by sometime in January. Hopefully I am not being too optimistic. I think the economic fallout may last for significantly longer, but once I get a vaccine I have every intention of going out and about in public without constraint.

Unfortunately our MD numbers are back up over 1100 today. Washington county public schools are starting out all online, and they don't have a date to change to in person, just when they feel it is safe. Most of the private schools follow along with the public school closure days. My sister in law is desperate to get her daughter out of the house and contacted all the private schools but she couldn't find one that promised to have the kids in the classrooms.

Unfortunately it seems like the majority of people in my area are starting to relax about everything. The local softball leagues have started up with no masks or distancing - there was a packed audience in the park near my house. The local Walmart employees are back to wearing their masks around their chins, and people in church are singing all the responses. In the mean time I am still hunkered down and just watching the Facebook live stream.

[pulmonarymd]

Jul 27, 2020 13:19:48 GMT -5 resolution said:

Jul 26, 2020 13:10:04 GMT -5 lurkyloo said:

Thank you    I’m just sad bc I don’t see an easy way out or a return to quasi normal...but you’re right, we personally are okay.  We can keep doing this if we have to, and that’s a privilege in itself.

Also Moderna is starting phase III trials on its vaccine tomorrow.  Fingers crossed.

I am still hopeful that a vaccine will get us interacting normally again by sometime in January. Hopefully I am not being too optimistic. I think the economic fallout may last for significantly longer, but once I get a vaccine I have every intention of going out and about in public without constraint.

Unfortunately our MD numbers are back up over 1100 today. Washington county public schools are starting out all online, and they don't have a date to change to in person, just when they feel it is safe. Most of the private schools follow along with the public school closure days. My sister in law is desperate to get her daughter out of the house and contacted all the private schools but she couldn't find one that promised to have the kids in the classrooms.

Unfortunately it seems like the majority of people in my area are starting to relax about everything. The local softball leagues have started up with no masks or distancing - there was a packed audience in the park near my house. The local Walmart employees are back to wearing their masks around their chins, and people in church are singing all the responses. In the mean time I am still hunkered down and just watching the Facebook live stream.

You are far too optimistic. To have this occur, you need to have an effective vaccine, and distribute over 200 million doses by then. We will be lucky to have that be the case 12 months from now. And most of what I have seen seems to indicate that we may need 2 doses to have a significant response, at least with the earliest ones. So then you have to double the number of doses we need. Hopefully, we will be able to have a more effective treatment before then, and been able to vaccinate medical people and first responders by the beginning of the year.

It also requires the public to agree to be vaccinated. No easy sell nowadays.