What does reopening look like in YOUR state?

[TheOtherMe]

We have been out of high school for 51 years.  She was still working.

[Spellbound454]

I have just spent the last couple of days going in to battle with the Conspiracy nutters.

I reckon that those who put misleading... and frankly dangerous information on to the internet, during a pandemic.... ought to be prosecuted.

We are looking at another outbreak........and I can't say I'm surprised given the level of stupidity of these prize tulips in our midst.

[Deleted]

Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo said that public schools across the county must be virtual only until at least September 8.  I love her so much.  Of course, private schools may open when they wish and our local Catholic schools open for in-person learning on August 14.  

[Opti]

Jul 24, 2020 15:04:38 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Jul 24, 2020 14:51:34 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

My friend since junior high who died last week of covid thought it was a hoax and didn't wear a mask.

I hope her children, grandchildren, siblings and their families now understand that it is real.

It is so sad that something that may have been preventable if people took a modicum of care happens. Her family will feel her loss for some time, espescially if she was not old or sick. I get angry when I hear stories like this as well. Why won't people listen to us. Such a waste

Its sad the RW media went into overdrive on calling this a hoax. There were employees that quit their jobs in various nursing homes and the like in March and April because they were worried how bad it might be. And given the shortages of PPE for them in many facilities, its not surprising. I am sometimes amazed that I never got it. 

[Deleted]

Jul 24, 2020 18:54:54 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 24, 2020 15:04:38 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

It is so sad that something that may have been preventable if people took a modicum of care happens. Her family will feel her loss for some time, espescially if she was not old or sick. I get angry when I hear stories like this as well. Why won't people listen to us. Such a waste

Its sad the RW media went into overdrive on calling this a hoax. There were employees that quit their jobs in various nursing homes and the like in March and April because they were worried how bad it might be. And given the shortages of PPE for them in many facilities, its not surprising. I am sometimes amazed that I never got it. 

I'm amazed and afraid everyday.  DH and I are coughing and sneezing a bit right now and he's sure it's not and I'm afraid it is, despite our minimal exposure.  The fear of what if is maybe the worst thing.  I went to an in-person meeting yesterday and now I'm coughing.  Yes, I know that's really unlikely but the thought keeps me awake at night.

[pulmonarymd]

Think of how people like me feel. We know how to avoid it, how to protect ourselves, but because people will not do the right thing, know we will be exposed. And not only exposed, but exposed to the sickest of the sick. And We have to try to save the life of these people, watch too many die, and try to stay well ourselves. Knowing that we could avoid much of this if we only had the fortitude and logic to do the right thing. It is going to be all the worse because we are too stupid and selfish to sacrifice. And I have a front row seat

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Jul 24, 2020 19:18:55 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Think of how people like me feel. We know how to avoid it, how to protect ourselves, but because people will not do the right thing, know we will be exposed. And not only exposed, but exposed to the sickest of the sick. And We have to try to save the life of these people, watch too many die, and try to stay well ourselves. Knowing that we could avoid much of this if we only had the fortitude and logic to do the right thing. It is going to be all the worse because we are too stupid and selfish to sacrifice. And I have a front row seat

I’m sorry. I do what I can to not take unnecessary risks, but I’m an essential employee, so there is still some risk for me. But I still feel for our healthcare workers. If I don’t go to work because I’m afraid of the risks, nobody will die, nothing really bad will happen to anyone, except maybe to me in regards to staying employed. It’s different for our healthcare workers, depending on what kind of work they do, bad things can happen to patients if they don’t go to work, and bad things could possibly happen to them (the risks concerning COVID-19) when they do go to work. And they have to put themselves in harm’s way, taking care of people that were too stupid to at least try to protect themselves. Not all of the people that get the virus were careless and stupid, but those are the ones I’m sorry you all have to put yourselves at risk to try to help.

[pulmonarymd]

Jul 24, 2020 19:29:28 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

Jul 24, 2020 19:18:55 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Think of how people like me feel. We know how to avoid it, how to protect ourselves, but because people will not do the right thing, know we will be exposed. And not only exposed, but exposed to the sickest of the sick. And We have to try to save the life of these people, watch too many die, and try to stay well ourselves. Knowing that we could avoid much of this if we only had the fortitude and logic to do the right thing. It is going to be all the worse because we are too stupid and selfish to sacrifice. And I have a front row seat

I’m sorry. I do what I can to not take unnecessary risks, but I’m an essential employee, so there is still some risk for me. But I still feel for our healthcare workers. If I don’t go to work because I’m afraid of the risks, nobody will die, nothing really bad will happen to anyone, except maybe to me in regards to staying employed. It’s different for our healthcare workers, depending on what kind of work they do, bad things can happen to patients if they don’t go to work, and bad things could possibly happen to them (the risks concerning COVID-19) when they do go to work. And they have to put themselves in harm’s way, taking care of people that were too stupid to at least try to protect themselves. Not all of the people that get the virus were careless and stupid, but those are the ones I’m sorry you all have to put yourselves at risk to try to help.

See, I feel the worst for the non-healthcare essential workers. We have signed up for this, and I know my job is inherently risky, and I can deal with it. Most of us are well compensated. They se of you that have jobs that need to be done to keep society functioning, and never thought you would be in this position, and do it anyway are the true heroes. In addition, many of you do not get paid well, but went to work anyway, so you deserve our respect and gratitude. There is a difference contracting this at your workplace, and contracting this in a bar or at a party. If people were willing to forego the latter, we would be in a better place. So please do not misunderstand me. If someone is told, “come to work or you get fired”, and they go to work and get sick, I have a lot of empathy for them. Someone goes to a bar because they aren’t going to be told what to do, and refuses to wear a mask, I am angry about

[lurkyloo]

Jul 24, 2020 19:07:21 GMT -5 @donethat said:

Jul 24, 2020 18:54:54 GMT -5 Opti said:

Its sad the RW media went into overdrive on calling this a hoax. There were employees that quit their jobs in various nursing homes and the like in March and April because they were worried how bad it might be. And given the shortages of PPE for them in many facilities, its not surprising. I am sometimes amazed that I never got it. 

I'm amazed and afraid everyday.  DH and I are coughing and sneezing a bit right now and he's sure it's not and I'm afraid it is, despite our minimal exposure.  The fear of what if is maybe the worst thing.  I went to an in-person meeting yesterday and now I'm coughing.  Yes, I know that's really unlikely but the thought keeps me awake at night.

I wound up delaying my return to work a day because I had sinus drainage that was causing a slightly increased cough.  Talked to the screener, decided it was allergies, also decided to wear a KN95 mask under my work issue mask just in case...and noticed that the symptoms mostly went away while wearing the KN95.

I ordered a couple more packages 

Have you tried allergy meds?

[Opti]

Jul 24, 2020 19:07:21 GMT -5 @donethat said:

Jul 24, 2020 18:54:54 GMT -5 Opti said:

Its sad the RW media went into overdrive on calling this a hoax. There were employees that quit their jobs in various nursing homes and the like in March and April because they were worried how bad it might be. And given the shortages of PPE for them in many facilities, its not surprising. I am sometimes amazed that I never got it. 

I'm amazed and afraid everyday.  DH and I are coughing and sneezing a bit right now and he's sure it's not and I'm afraid it is, despite our minimal exposure.  The fear of what if is maybe the worst thing.  I went to an in-person meeting yesterday and now I'm coughing.  Yes, I know that's really unlikely but the thought keeps me awake at night.

As a non-medical person working in a medical facility. I would say the hardest time is the first month. After that it gets a bit easier. Only worry if its a non-productive cough and you believe its not associated with anything else. I have allergies and sinus infections, so my coughs are generally productive (Mucus) so I'm not concerned on that account. If you get too worried, get a test. The stress of this will lower your immune response, so keep that in mind.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Jul 24, 2020 19:07:21 GMT -5 @donethat said:

Jul 24, 2020 18:54:54 GMT -5 Opti said:

Its sad the RW media went into overdrive on calling this a hoax. There were employees that quit their jobs in various nursing homes and the like in March and April because they were worried how bad it might be. And given the shortages of PPE for them in many facilities, its not surprising. I am sometimes amazed that I never got it. 

I'm amazed and afraid everyday.  DH and I are coughing and sneezing a bit right now and he's sure it's not and I'm afraid it is, despite our minimal exposure.  The fear of what if is maybe the worst thing.  I went to an in-person meeting yesterday and now I'm coughing.  Yes, I know that's really unlikely but the thought keeps me awake at night.

IKR?   As the list gets ever longer of potential COVID symptoms I am starting to feel like I am on an endless WebMD quest.   Sneeze?  OMG COVID.   Had to go to the bathroom more than usual?  OMG COVID.

Couldn't smell something at work OMG COVID.  Turned out the smell hadn't reached me yet but that was about 20 seconds of pure panic.

I keep thinking of the season 2 finale of The Walking Dead when the head of the CDC tells Rick there is no cure everyone already has the zombie virus.   I get how the characters feel now.

[Opti]

Jul 24, 2020 20:16:51 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Jul 24, 2020 19:29:28 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

I’m sorry. I do what I can to not take unnecessary risks, but I’m an essential employee, so there is still some risk for me. But I still feel for our healthcare workers. If I don’t go to work because I’m afraid of the risks, nobody will die, nothing really bad will happen to anyone, except maybe to me in regards to staying employed. It’s different for our healthcare workers, depending on what kind of work they do, bad things can happen to patients if they don’t go to work, and bad things could possibly happen to them (the risks concerning COVID-19) when they do go to work. And they have to put themselves in harm’s way, taking care of people that were too stupid to at least try to protect themselves. Not all of the people that get the virus were careless and stupid, but those are the ones I’m sorry you all have to put yourselves at risk to try to help.

See, I feel the worst for the non-healthcare essential workers. We have signed up for this, and I know my job is inherently risky, and I can deal with it. Most of us are well compensated. They se of you that have jobs that need to be done to keep society functioning, and never thought you would be in this position, and do it anyway are the true heroes. In addition, many of you do not get paid well, but went to work anyway, so you deserve our respect and gratitude. There is a difference contracting this at your workplace, and contracting this in a bar or at a party. If people were willing to forego the latter, we would be in a better place. So please do not misunderstand me. If someone is told, “come to work or you get fired”, and they go to work and get sick, I have a lot of empathy for them. Someone goes to a bar because they aren’t going to be told what to do, and refuses to wear a mask, I am angry about

I feel bad for most of the essential workers who are not well compensated and may not have many choices. As a doctor, you likely had access to the best PPE in your facility. In March and April there were great shortages, so bad that in some nursing home type facilities even the nurses had inadequate PPE. So you can imagine what happened to the reception staff, recreation staff, and kitchen workers. They didn't sign up for pandemic type conditions, yet they were stuck unless they quit. Instead of serving from a dining room, food had to be delivered to all rooms including Covid+ 3 times a day. 

[pulmonarymd]

Jul 25, 2020 7:57:31 GMT -5 Opti said:

Jul 24, 2020 20:16:51 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

See, I feel the worst for the non-healthcare essential workers. We have signed up for this, and I know my job is inherently risky, and I can deal with it. Most of us are well compensated. They se of you that have jobs that need to be done to keep society functioning, and never thought you would be in this position, and do it anyway are the true heroes. In addition, many of you do not get paid well, but went to work anyway, so you deserve our respect and gratitude. There is a difference contracting this at your workplace, and contracting this in a bar or at a party. If people were willing to forego the latter, we would be in a better place. So please do not misunderstand me. If someone is told, “come to work or you get fired”, and they go to work and get sick, I have a lot of empathy for them. Someone goes to a bar because they aren’t going to be told what to do, and refuses to wear a mask, I am angry about

I feel bad for most of the essential workers who are not well compensated and may not have many choices. As a doctor, you likely had access to the best PPE in your facility. In March and April there were great shortages, so bad that in some nursing home type facilities even the nurses had inadequate PPE. So you can imagine what happened to the reception staff, recreation staff, and kitchen workers. They didn't sign up for pandemic type conditions, yet they were stuck unless they quit. Instead of serving from a dining room, food had to be delivered to all rooms including Covid+ 3 times a day. 

We had to reuse our ppe. We had to ration it. We receive some that I would consider inferior. The gowns were different everyday. None of what we had to do was either optimal or best practice. We are sterilizing used N95 masks for our use in the fall if this should recur. We are now back to washable gowns. While I guess I should feel fortunate to have had the use of what I got, I really do not consider what we were supplied with adequate

[thyme4change]

Jul 24, 2020 14:51:34 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Jul 24, 2020 13:00:22 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Oh no. They all of a sudden believe it is bad if a loved one dies. Too many people need to touch the stove before they believe. Unfortunately, they believe it when it is too late to do anything, and have helped add to others suffering. I have run out of empathy for that group though.

My friend since junior high who died last week of covid thought it was a hoax and didn't wear a mask.

I hope her children, grandchildren, siblings and their families now understand that it is real.

I can only imagine my thoughts over the last days I would spend alone in an ICU. How much regret I would feel. I would feel that way now, and I wear a mask and don't go anywhere. But if I enter the hospital, my thoughts the entire time would be if I had stood just a little further away from the guy at the grocery store, or didn't go into the sandwich shop that one day, or whatever. I would feel so terrible that my stubbornness and/or carelessness put my family at risk, and robbed my kids of a mother as young adults. I hope not wearing a mask and standing by her POTUS made her feel strong and smart for a bit of time, before she had to wallow in the reality of what she had done.

[GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl]

Jul 24, 2020 11:47:57 GMT -5 finnime said:

Just read that my county (Maryland) is now down to 75 cases/day from several hundred. We are rigorously in phase 2. Schools will open virtually to start, with a plan to change that should evidence support it. The gross majority of cases (about 75%) now are Latinx, although the population as a whole is 20% Latinx. The county government is making some changes: distributing CARES funding to prevent evictions; shoring up testing availability which isn't enough and speed of results, which still lag far too much, and enhancing communications across languages and communities.

Me, I'm used to going masked every where and am delighted when I find my King Arthur's flour. We've eaten in a restaurant once in the past few months, where we were one of only two parties in a multi-room establishment. We don't go out, really. DH drives and I run in to do errands where needed. I've stopped expecting much as in when shows, etc. will open.

I still hope to get to Maine maybe in September if they lift the quarantine requirement. I do miss summer breaks and seeing my family. DS is in Manhattan and siblings and their families are in Massachusetts.

Fortunately, or unfortunately, for both of us, as of yesterday, Massachusetts implemented a mandatory 14-day quarantine for anyone entering the Commonwealth from any state other than another New England state. The mandatory quarantine also applies to Massachusetts residents who travel to any state other than a New England state and then return home. Travelers in such circumstances must submit a form about that travel. Failure to submit the form and/or quarantine results in a $500/day fine. I’m not sure how this will be enforced, but it will hopefully send a clear message.

So, it appears that I will not be able to go camping in Maryland or Pennsylvania in September or October to visit ODS (whom I haven’t seen since mid-February) and you might not be able to come North. ☹️ All for the common good...

[finnime]

Jul 25, 2020 8:44:27 GMT -5 GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl said:

Jul 24, 2020 11:47:57 GMT -5 finnime said:

Just read that my county (Maryland) is now down to 75 cases/day from several hundred. We are rigorously in phase 2. Schools will open virtually to start, with a plan to change that should evidence support it. The gross majority of cases (about 75%) now are Latinx, although the population as a whole is 20% Latinx. The county government is making some changes: distributing CARES funding to prevent evictions; shoring up testing availability which isn't enough and speed of results, which still lag far too much, and enhancing communications across languages and communities.

Me, I'm used to going masked every where and am delighted when I find my King Arthur's flour. We've eaten in a restaurant once in the past few months, where we were one of only two parties in a multi-room establishment. We don't go out, really. DH drives and I run in to do errands where needed. I've stopped expecting much as in when shows, etc. will open.

I still hope to get to Maine maybe in September if they lift the quarantine requirement. I do miss summer breaks and seeing my family. DS is in Manhattan and siblings and their families are in Massachusetts.

Fortunately, or unfortunately, for both of us, as of yesterday, Massachusetts implemented a mandatory 14-day quarantine for anyone entering the Commonwealth from any state other than another New England state. The mandatory quarantine also applies to Massachusetts residents who travel to any state other than a New England state and then return home. Travelers in such circumstances must submit a form about that travel. Failure to submit the form and/or quarantine results in a $500/day fine. I’m not sure how this will be enforced, but it will hopefully send a clear message.

So, it appears that I will not be able to go camping in Maryland or Pennsylvania in September or October to visit ODS (whom I haven’t seen since mid-February) and you might not be able to come North. ☹️ All for the common good...

I really hoped that we would be regarded as an okay source state, but other counties in MD are not doing too well. And then there's those states to the south ...

[lurkyloo]

Jul 25, 2020 9:12:50 GMT -5 finnime said:

Jul 25, 2020 8:44:27 GMT -5 GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl said:

Fortunately, or unfortunately, for both of us, as of yesterday, Massachusetts implemented a mandatory 14-day quarantine for anyone entering the Commonwealth from any state other than another New England state. The mandatory quarantine also applies to Massachusetts residents who travel to any state other than a New England state and then return home. Travelers in such circumstances must submit a form about that travel. Failure to submit the form and/or quarantine results in a $500/day fine. I’m not sure how this will be enforced, but it will hopefully send a clear message.

So, it appears that I will not be able to go camping in Maryland or Pennsylvania in September or October to visit ODS (whom I haven’t seen since mid-February) and you might not be able to come North. ☹️ All for the common good...

I really hoped that we would be regarded as an okay source state, but other counties in MD are not doing too well. And then there's those states to the south ...

Me too.  But our numbers are trending in the wrong direction...today’s are ugly.  At this point I’m just crossing fingers that our death rate stays relatively low. 

We’re never gonna get to leave our houses again, are we?

[lurkyloo]

Jul 25, 2020 8:44:27 GMT -5 GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl said:

Jul 24, 2020 11:47:57 GMT -5 finnime said:

Just read that my county (Maryland) is now down to 75 cases/day from several hundred. We are rigorously in phase 2. Schools will open virtually to start, with a plan to change that should evidence support it. The gross majority of cases (about 75%) now are Latinx, although the population as a whole is 20% Latinx. The county government is making some changes: distributing CARES funding to prevent evictions; shoring up testing availability which isn't enough and speed of results, which still lag far too much, and enhancing communications across languages and communities.

Me, I'm used to going masked every where and am delighted when I find my King Arthur's flour. We've eaten in a restaurant once in the past few months, where we were one of only two parties in a multi-room establishment. We don't go out, really. DH drives and I run in to do errands where needed. I've stopped expecting much as in when shows, etc. will open.

I still hope to get to Maine maybe in September if they lift the quarantine requirement. I do miss summer breaks and seeing my family. DS is in Manhattan and siblings and their families are in Massachusetts.

Fortunately, or unfortunately, for both of us, as of yesterday, Massachusetts implemented a mandatory 14-day quarantine for anyone entering the Commonwealth from any state other than another New England state. The mandatory quarantine also applies to Massachusetts residents who travel to any state other than a New England state and then return home. Travelers in such circumstances must submit a form about that travel. Failure to submit the form and/or quarantine results in a $500/day fine. I’m not sure how this will be enforced, but it will hopefully send a clear message.

So, it appears that I will not be able to go camping in Maryland or Pennsylvania in September or October to visit ODS (whom I haven’t seen since mid-February) and you might not be able to come North. ☹️ All for the common good...

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[finnime]

You're right, lurkyloo, our numbers today are ugly. We need an emoticon in a mask.

[Deleted]

Jul 24, 2020 22:29:00 GMT -5 lurkyloo said:

Jul 24, 2020 19:07:21 GMT -5 @donethat said:

I'm amazed and afraid everyday.  DH and I are coughing and sneezing a bit right now and he's sure it's not and I'm afraid it is, despite our minimal exposure.  The fear of what if is maybe the worst thing.  I went to an in-person meeting yesterday and now I'm coughing.  Yes, I know that's really unlikely but the thought keeps me awake at night.

I wound up delaying my return to work a day because I had sinus drainage that was causing a slightly increased cough.  Talked to the screener, decided it was allergies, also decided to wear a KN95 mask under my work issue mask just in case...and noticed that the symptoms mostly went away while wearing the KN95.

I ordered a couple more packages 

Have you tried allergy meds?

I use Allegra and DH uses Flonase but the pollen count has been awful.  

[Deleted]

Jul 25, 2020 7:44:22 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Jul 24, 2020 19:07:21 GMT -5 @donethat said:

I'm amazed and afraid everyday.  DH and I are coughing and sneezing a bit right now and he's sure it's not and I'm afraid it is, despite our minimal exposure.  The fear of what if is maybe the worst thing.  I went to an in-person meeting yesterday and now I'm coughing.  Yes, I know that's really unlikely but the thought keeps me awake at night.

IKR?   As the list gets ever longer of potential COVID symptoms I am starting to feel like I am on an endless WebMD quest.   Sneeze?  OMG COVID.   Had to go to the bathroom more than usual?  OMG COVID.

Couldn't smell something at work OMG COVID.  Turned out the smell hadn't reached me yet but that was about 20 seconds of pure panic.

I keep thinking of the season 2 finale of The Walking Dead when the head of the CDC tells Rick there is no cure everyone already has the zombie virus.   I get how the characters feel now.

  I joke that having the cat's litter box in my home office gives me a free smell test daily but I am sort of not joking 

[billisonboard]

I have always had a "disconnect" with my sense of smell. It does function but usually I have to consciencely activate it. My wife will say,  "Do you smell that?" which prompts me I need to become aware of an odor. I also don't register "quality" of smells. I have learned to read the cues my wife gives concerning whether it is a "good" or "bad" smell. 

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

I have a friend who lives in Australia and we were chatting yesterday.  I was telling her about the battle of opening schools and the problems that we are having.  She told me that their schools opened, and almost immediately closed.  At last the schools in her area are all online.  She said that the way it looked to her, opening up the schools was the cause of the outbreak they’re having with a resultant lock down again.  

This isn’t the first time I have heard this from other countries.  I believe Israel ran into this too.  That being said, I do not know if they just opened schools as usual, or used any precautions.

[thyme4change]

I haven't been too concerned with minor symptoms that seem innocuous. Sneezing is a given - minor allergies. Smell, I don't think about. However, a couple of weekends ago, a friend came over to swim (float would be a more accurate description). We were outside the whole time, but probably 3 feet apart, not 6 feet apart. After she left, I felt super weird. Extremely tired and just "not right". I went to bed, and didn't have a fever or nausea or anything. I woke up feeling hung over, even though I hadn't drank anything the night before. I lazed around the next day, and it seemed to have passed. I didn't know if I should tell her, but it didn't seem to be Covid. It has now been two weeks, and nobody is even a little sick - so that must have been something else.

[seriousthistime]

Jul 25, 2020 10:53:08 GMT -5 finnime said:

You're right, lurkyloo , our numbers today are ugly. We need an emoticon in a mask.

Here you go.  😷

[lurkyloo]

Jul 25, 2020 11:18:46 GMT -5 @donethat said:

Jul 24, 2020 22:29:00 GMT -5 lurkyloo said:

I wound up delaying my return to work a day because I had sinus drainage that was causing a slightly increased cough.  Talked to the screener, decided it was allergies, also decided to wear a KN95 mask under my work issue mask just in case...and noticed that the symptoms mostly went away while wearing the KN95.

I ordered a couple more packages 

Have you tried allergy meds?

I use Allegra and DH uses Flonase but the pollen count has been awful.  

Do you feel any better if you wear a mask?  Even a regular one might lower the pollen count a bit.  I hope the trees ease off their orgy soon so you can get some peace of mind.

[finnime]

Jul 25, 2020 12:20:20 GMT -5 seriousthistime said:

Jul 25, 2020 10:53:08 GMT -5 finnime said:

You're right, lurkyloo , our numbers today are ugly. We need an emoticon in a mask.

Here you go.  😷

Oh, I like it!

[lurkyloo]

Jul 25, 2020 12:04:54 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

I haven't been too concerned with minor symptoms that seem innocuous. Sneezing is a given - minor allergies. Smell, I don't think about. However, a couple of weekends ago, a friend came over to swim (float would be a more accurate description). We were outside the whole time, but probably 3 feet apart, not 6 feet apart. After she left, I felt super weird. Extremely tired and just "not right". I went to bed, and didn't have a fever or nausea or anything. I woke up feeling hung over, even though I hadn't drank anything the night before. I lazed around the next day, and it seemed to have passed. I didn't know if I should tell her, but it didn't seem to be Covid. It has now been two weeks, and nobody is even a little sick - so that must have been something else.

Almost certainly something else...but even if you had caught CV from her, it should have taken at least a couple of days before you’d notice anything wrong.  

The smell thing is apparently real though-not a universal symptom, but unique enough that it’s a pretty selective indicator/unlikely to be allergies or garden variety cold.  There was a report today that CV attacks the olfactory epithelium that supports the sensory neurons rather than the neurons themselves.  

[Deleted]

Jul 25, 2020 13:32:24 GMT -5 lurkyloo said:

Jul 25, 2020 11:18:46 GMT -5 @donethat said:

I use Allegra and DH uses Flonase but the pollen count has been awful.  

Do you feel any better if you wear a mask?  Even a regular one might lower the pollen count a bit.  I hope the trees ease off their orgy soon so you can get some peace of mind.

I do feel better with a mask and now that I have more disposable ones, I may try it when I'm working in the yard for an extended period.  Our neighborhood is covered in crepe myrtles (I have 5 myself) and they have recently gone through major blooming and everything outdoors is covered in pollen.  At least Hanna's rain is washing us down now.  

[Tennesseer]

Jul 25, 2020 15:38:53 GMT -5 @donethat said:

Jul 25, 2020 13:32:24 GMT -5 lurkyloo said:

Do you feel any better if you wear a mask?  Even a regular one might lower the pollen count a bit.  I hope the trees ease off their orgy soon so you can get some peace of mind.

I do feel better with a mask and now that I have more disposable ones, I may try it when I'm working in the yard for an extended period.  Our neighborhood is covered in crepe myrtles (I have 5 myself) and they have recently gone through major blooming and everything outdoors is covered in pollen.  At least Hanna's rain is washing us down now.  

I was at a Kroger food store yesterday and they had a table full of individual paper masks for sale. I was impressed. Paper towels are now back and well stocked. The only thing they never have in stock for mid-day shoppers are disinfectant sprays and cleaners.