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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jul 12, 2020 12:55:44 GMT -5
Poor Walt is rolling over in his grave. With the reopening of Disney, it'll bring Florida what it doesn't need right now...more out-of-state tourists, and more cases. Makes me wonder if Desantis has money invested in funeral homes. Or is buying land for cemeteries. If you wrote this story for publication, no one would believe it. I think the bigger risk is the out of state tourists bring it home. There is ngligble risk they they will make it worse. Florida seems to be doing quite well on their own Sometimes I think the only thing that saves us is rainy days like this one. Keeps at least some of the nutboobs indoors at home, instead of out and about, spreading lies and virus.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jul 12, 2020 13:14:58 GMT -5
Iowa's Test Iowa site are not open on Saturday and Sunday. The numbers are always lower on Monday.
My results were back in 24 hours. Supposedly the website is updated in real time but I don't know who does the updating.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 12, 2020 13:17:02 GMT -5
Not my state, but Florida just logged 15K new cases for the day... on a Sunday. Yes, I read that. We will not be opening the border anytime soon. Maybe not even this year. Trump can have all the hissy fits he wants. A firm NO.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 16:09:04 GMT -5
I've been tracking numbers for Johnson County, KS since early May- it's a prosperous suburb of KC where DH and I used to live and I was able to find a source that shows number of tests, not just number of cases. On May 8, total # positive/#cases was 6.7%. It got as low as 3.9% a month later and then started inching up. It's now at 5.6%. I now have a graph of the % testing positive over rolling 7-day periods. The most recent point is 9.8%. ![](https://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/JiminiChristmas/ymamsmiles/cantbe.gif) From news articles, the more recent cases are younger. They just started testing food workers at no cost a few days ago so that's some of the increase, but we are not over this by any means. Deaths increase by one only every few days (so far 93 out of 3,000 cases) but I read/hear from more and more sources that survival doesn't mean you're home free. There are scary stories about serious lingering symptoms, most recently from the German news podcast I follow. BF and I are still headed to Hermann, MO for a long weekend on Friday but we're steering clear of the bars and any crowded indoor spaces. We both have and wear masks in any public place indoors. Typically the bars WERE the only crowded spaces on past visits. There are only 15 cases in that county, but of course the tourists who come in from KC and St. Louis and infect the locals get counted after they're diagnosed in their home counties.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 17:57:54 GMT -5
I think the bigger risk is the out of state tourists bring it home. There is ngligble risk they they will make it worse. Florida seems to be doing quite well on their own Sometimes I think the only thing that saves us is rainy days like this one. Keeps at least some of the nutboobs indoors at home, instead of out and about, spreading lies and virus. I was just thinking yesterday that the winter freeze can't come soon enough in my area. The highway will go back to being empty and I really think that will make our virus potential go way down.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jul 12, 2020 19:37:48 GMT -5
Sometimes I think the only thing that saves us is rainy days like this one. Keeps at least some of the nutboobs indoors at home, instead of out and about, spreading lies and virus. I was just thinking yesterday that the winter freeze can't come soon enough in my area. The highway will go back to being empty and I really think that will make our virus potential go way down. We don't even get that break. Everyone else gets cold and then travels here. Or so Governor Gullible is hoping. Helps us make money and improves our economy, dontcha know. All the while killing off people and reducing road traffic. I must say, he has quite a plan going. On top of the anti-mask maniacs who claim they can't breathe while wearing one and accuse the rest of us of stealing their air. I'd like to contact trace every last one of them and brand a big "D" for Dumbass on their forehead. Make it easy for the first responders to decide what to do with them when their loved ones call begging for someone to help them. And I still know it sounds mean of me. It is mean, I get it. But for them to risk the health of others is worse than mean. If it was just about their own selfish selves and the virus had no opportunity to spread, it would be different.
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Post by bobosensei on Jul 12, 2020 21:19:52 GMT -5
Not my state, but Florida just logged 15K new cases for the day... on a Sunday. Yes, I read that. We will not be opening the border anytime soon. Maybe not even this year. Trump can have all the hissy fits he wants. A firm NO. I suggest that Canada builds a wall and makes the US pay for it
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 12, 2020 21:23:27 GMT -5
I got to go inside the library yesterday. You can only be in there for at most 30 minutes and nothing in the kids area is open, computer time has to be booked in advance so they can maintain distance. Masks required.
I walked in to pick up my reserved book and it felt so WEIRD. It was like I had never used a library before in my life. It's amazing how far my social skills have declined in four months and that's with me still working outside the house.
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Post by bobosensei on Jul 12, 2020 21:29:42 GMT -5
My sister found out on Friday that she worked closely with someone that tested positive for covid for 2 days. The lady is 65 and went to see her family in Arkansas. Came back and found out she was staying in the same house as someone that was positive but kept coming to work while she was looking for a place to get test and didn't tell anyone. She's positive, they found out Friday. They also found out a detective that they worked with was positive for covid 19. He was out sick with what he thought was just a stomach virus and came back to work. He didn't tell anyone. He claimed he didn't know that could be a symptom.
My sister sat in line for 2 hours for a test on saturday only to have them come to her car and say they would run out of tests before they got to her. She said there were cars as far as she could see ahead of her and behind her. She looked for a place today and could not find anyone with tests. So she is going an hour before a place opens near her house tomorrow and hopes to get a test.
She works with the public. With traumatized/abused kids so the parents aren't always the most responsible. And she said the last few weeks most people that come to them are failing the screening test due to having a fever or cough.
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Post by bean29 on Jul 13, 2020 0:00:33 GMT -5
My DD has a friend who tested positive for Covid-19. DD and her friend visited him at the mall last week. She will try to call her primary tomorrow to arrange a test.
DD asked what she should do about work. I told her to call and tell her boss. Boss told her if no symptoms, come to work.
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Post by giramomma on Jul 13, 2020 7:17:46 GMT -5
My DD has a friend who tested positive for Covid-19. DD and her friend visited him at the mall last week. She will try to call her primary tomorrow to arrange a test. DD asked what she should do about work. I told her to call and tell her boss. Boss told her if no symptoms, come to work. Mask wearing? Is she?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 11:21:03 GMT -5
My DD has a friend who tested positive for Covid-19. DD and her friend visited him at the mall last week. She will try to call her primary tomorrow to arrange a test. DD asked what she should do about work. I told her to call and tell her boss. Boss told her if no symptoms, come to work. There's no way my job would let me come in if I had been in contact with a positive covid person. I got sent home when they found out I was waiting for someone's test result. And I work alone and have to be masked if I'm anywhere in the facility but my isolated cube.
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Post by formerroomate99 on Jul 13, 2020 13:37:14 GMT -5
I just unfollowed a FB friend who posts the most ridiculous stuff about masks, freedom, etc. One poster said she had Covid 19, and she got it from breathing in her own virus while wearing a mask. Is Stupid as contagious as the virus? ![](http://village.photos/images/user/df4d496d-1af8-4e4e-b066-4f95071b7838/74df36ad-676b-438e-8921-a524fca0dc79.jpg) Well there is something to be said for using an argument that will actually work on the people you’re trying to convince, rather than trying to pass some kind a virtual test with useless arguments. For example, I’ve never understood why the tree huggers haven’t bothered to make the point that using lots of gas will put money in the pockets of foreign government ms that hate us, even if none of the gas you use actually comes from them. ETA. Though out right lying to people it’s generally not a good idea, especially when you know you’re gonna be found out
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Post by crazycat on Jul 13, 2020 14:54:47 GMT -5
Our Governor just shut down gyms , hair , nail salons , churches , malls , bars , etc . AGAIN . I really wish people would just wear a damn mask and stay home already .
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Post by souldoubt on Jul 13, 2020 15:15:48 GMT -5
Thanks to all the protesters/rioters, the people who won't wear masks and those who acted like restrictions being eased meant the virus was gone. CA was already looking at a massive budget shortfall and this will only increase it and be a death sentence for many more business. One step forward and two giant steps back.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 15:52:35 GMT -5
Our gym is open, although at reduced capacity, so we still have to pay monthly. It's also owned and operated by the local university which is planning to reopen to in-person classes next month. Which means we still aren't going because that's where all the student athletes work out. Football team, swim team, baseball team, soccer team, golf team, shot put, javelin, you name it. Tons of adorable young people running, lifting, sweating, panting etc. Great eye candy for an old broad but also a great space for Covid transmission.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 16:08:11 GMT -5
Mayor just announced Houston positivity rate at 26.8%. You have no idea how much I truly wish that I could believe this was a lie, a hoax, a political game, as so many in my community are saying. But I don't believe it is any of those; my brain and my personal observances say it's true. pulmonarymd, you said it first and said it best, Texas is screwed.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 13, 2020 16:54:45 GMT -5
If a random group were tested and 1 in 4 had the virus, that would be very scary. If a group of people who authorities think might have the virus were tested and 3 in 4 didn't have the virus, that would be good, wouldn't it be?
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jul 13, 2020 17:08:25 GMT -5
If a random group were tested and 1 in 4 had the virus, that would be very scary. If a group of people who authorities think might have the virus were tested and 3 in 4 didn't have the virus, that would be good, wouldn't it be? Depends upon what you are looking for. 25% positive rate is significant. Given the numerous viruses that cause similar symptoms, that means of those, this disease is causing 1/4 of the illnesses. If influenza swabs were positive in 25% of those tested, we would have a raging pandemic of influenza, just as we are here. And this is 5-10 times more deadly. Anything over 5% is a concern according to epidemiologists. And remember, you still aren’t catching every case. I think that is higher than the rate in nyc at the height of the pandemic, and we are testing more now.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jul 13, 2020 17:08:42 GMT -5
If a random group were tested and 1 in 4 had the virus, that would be very scary. If a group of people who authorities think might have the virus were tested and 3 in 4 didn't have the virus, that would be good, wouldn't it be? I wish I was wrong
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 17:10:09 GMT -5
I agree- the positivity rate is only part of the picture although at least it considers the number of tests. Is the 25% the ratio for all the tests since they started testing, or a recent period?
The area I’ve been tracking, Johnson County, KS, is at 5.6% overall but for the last week it was 9.5%. Weekly averages hit a low of 2.8% in mid-June.
They did start testing food workers at no cost just recently and that might explain a little of the recent increase.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jul 13, 2020 17:23:04 GMT -5
I agree- the positivity rate is only part of the picture although at least it considers the number of tests. Is the 25% the ratio for all the tests since they started testing, or a recent period? The area I’ve been tracking, Johnson County, KS, is at 5.6% overall but for the last week it was 9.5%. Weekly averages hit a low of 2.8% in mid-June. They did start testing food workers at no cost just recently and that might explain a little of the recent increase. The current rate of positive tests is what is important. It tells you what direction things are going. And the number of tests is important too. If you have a low rate, especially if you do a lot of tests, you can be sure you have the identified most if not all, and with contact tracing, potentially control the spread. If you rate is high, you know you are not testing enough, and are missing many cases, and have little chance of controlling things with contact tracing.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 13, 2020 17:47:31 GMT -5
If a random group were tested and 1 in 4 had the virus, that would be very scary. If a group of people who authorities think might have the virus were tested and 3 in 4 didn't have the virus, that would be good, wouldn't it be? Depends upon what you are looking for. 25% positive rate is significant. Given the numerous viruses that cause similar symptoms, that means of those, this disease is causing 1/4 of the illnesses. If influenza swabs were positive in 25% of those tested, we would have a raging pandemic of influenza, just as we are here. And this is 5-10 times more deadly. Anything over 5% is a concern according to epidemiologists. And remember, you still aren’t catching every case. I think that is higher than the rate in nyc at the height of the pandemic, and we are testing more now. Trying to understand. ![](https://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/JiminiChristmas/ymamsmiles/peace.gif) This virus is 25%. What virus(es) is/are causing symptoms in the other 75%? Are screeners getting better at identifying likely cases? Just not making sense to me. I am thinking that this is one of those things I will just have to accept without truly "understanding". ![](https://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/JiminiChristmas/ymamsmiles/wink.png)
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jul 13, 2020 18:00:17 GMT -5
Depends upon what you are looking for. 25% positive rate is significant. Given the numerous viruses that cause similar symptoms, that means of those, this disease is causing 1/4 of the illnesses. If influenza swabs were positive in 25% of those tested, we would have a raging pandemic of influenza, just as we are here. And this is 5-10 times more deadly. Anything over 5% is a concern according to epidemiologists. And remember, you still aren’t catching every case. I think that is higher than the rate in nyc at the height of the pandemic, and we are testing more now. Trying to understand. ![](https://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/JiminiChristmas/ymamsmiles/peace.gif) This virus is 25%. What virus(es) is/are causing symptoms in the other 75%? Are screeners getting better at identifying likely cases? Just not making sense to me. I am thinking that this is one of those things I will just have to accept without truly "understanding". ![](https://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/JiminiChristmas/ymamsmiles/wink.png) There are 4 human coronaviruses, rhinoviruses, metapneumoviruses, parapneumovirus, the rare influenza virus, enterovirus, and others that cause human disease that I can’t recall. Something over 100 different viruses that can cause human disease. In a normal year, these all circulate, causing URI symptoms, and are never tested for because they cause mild disease. Enter Covid-19. It is a brand new virus, and is now infecting 25% of houstonians with URI symptoms. No big deal for most, but it can cause severe disease in some, and no one is immune. That degree of infection, with all the other viruses around is a problem
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Post by teen persuasion on Jul 13, 2020 19:08:45 GMT -5
Depends upon what you are looking for. 25% positive rate is significant. Given the numerous viruses that cause similar symptoms, that means of those, this disease is causing 1/4 of the illnesses. If influenza swabs were positive in 25% of those tested, we would have a raging pandemic of influenza, just as we are here. And this is 5-10 times more deadly. Anything over 5% is a concern according to epidemiologists. And remember, you still aren’t catching every case. I think that is higher than the rate in nyc at the height of the pandemic, and we are testing more now. Trying to understand. ![](https://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/JiminiChristmas/ymamsmiles/peace.gif) This virus is 25%. What virus(es) is/are causing symptoms in the other 75%? Are screeners getting better at identifying likely cases? Just not making sense to me. I am thinking that this is one of those things I will just have to accept without truly "understanding". ![](https://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/JiminiChristmas/ymamsmiles/wink.png) I doubt that only people with symptoms are getting tested. Nursing home staff must be tested twice a week in NY. Those that were informed they'd been exposed to a newly identified case should get tested (contact tracing). People going for elective medical procedures get pretested. All sorts of reasons a person without symptoms might get tested. Given most don't expect to be positive (workers, medical procedures, etc), the positivity rate should be low, or you are sniffing out cases in the community. Cuomo just announced guidelines for reopening NY schools in September. They want rates under 5% for a 14 day average sometime in the August 1-7 week. After that, looking at 7 day averages. If at any time it gets to 9%, hard stop. Our current rates in the region fluctuate daily from 0.9 to 1.9%.
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Post by movingforward on Jul 13, 2020 19:30:50 GMT -5
Mayor just announced Houston positivity rate at 26.8%. You have no idea how much I truly wish that I could believe this was a lie, a hoax, a political game, as so many in my community are saying. But I don't believe it is any of those; my brain and my personal observances say it's true. pulmonarymd, you said it first and said it best, Texas is screwed. And people are having covid parties to try and "prove" it is a hoax. Someone in San Antonio just died from attending one. I don't know how we stop people from just flat out being dumb asses, which seems to be where many cases are coming from. I am hoping with the mask mandate that at least the blatant idiots will not pass it on to unsuspecting people. The other big problem are churches. They do not fall under the mask mandate...just stupid.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Jul 13, 2020 19:38:37 GMT -5
Mayor just announced Houston positivity rate at 26.8%. You have no idea how much I truly wish that I could believe this was a lie, a hoax, a political game, as so many in my community are saying. But I don't believe it is any of those; my brain and my personal observances say it's true. pulmonarymd, you said it first and said it best, Texas is screwed. And people are having covid parties to try and "prove" it is a hoax. Someone in San Antonio just died from attending one. I don't know how we stop people from just flat out being dumb asses, which seems to be where many cases are coming from. I am hoping with the mask mandate that at least the blatant idiots will not pass it on to unsuspecting people. The other big problem are churches. They do not fall under the mask mandate...just stupid. Idiocracy was on point. We have clearly become too stupid to be a great nation. Maybe we can pull out of it
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Post by seriousthistime on Jul 13, 2020 19:44:05 GMT -5
And not everyone with symptoms is getting tested. My son works in an ED in a hard hit area of the country and routinely sees someone come in with all the symptoms and say they have a bad cold, and when the test comes back positive they laugh in his face and say it's ridiculous because there's no such thing, Covid is a hoax, and besides, the whole family has it, they all came down with it after a graduation or birthday party. Yeah, your whole family probably has COVID.
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Post by Opti on Jul 13, 2020 19:52:52 GMT -5
Trying to understand. ![](https://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/JiminiChristmas/ymamsmiles/peace.gif) This virus is 25%. What virus(es) is/are causing symptoms in the other 75%? Are screeners getting better at identifying likely cases? Just not making sense to me. I am thinking that this is one of those things I will just have to accept without truly "understanding". ![](https://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff155/JiminiChristmas/ymamsmiles/wink.png) I doubt that only people with symptoms are getting tested. Nursing home staff must be tested twice a week in NY. Those that were informed they'd been exposed to a newly identified case should get tested (contact tracing). People going for elective medical procedures get pretested. All sorts of reasons a person without symptoms might get tested. Given most don't expect to be positive (workers, medical procedures, etc), the positivity rate should be low, or you are sniffing out cases in the community. Cuomo just announced guidelines for reopening NY schools in September. They want rates under 5% for a 14 day average sometime in the August 1-7 week. After that, looking at 7 day averages. If at any time it gets to 9%, hard stop. Our current rates in the region fluctuate daily from 0.9 to 1.9%. Interesting. NJ nursing staff has to be tested once a week, although the very first round was twice in one week.
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Post by stillmovingforward on Jul 13, 2020 20:11:45 GMT -5
25% of the people here in Arizona test positive. It's bad.
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