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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 29, 2019 18:23:37 GMT -5
For the first time, a majority of Americans—55 percent—now support an impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump, according to a CBS News poll released Sunday. And, two-thirds of Americans believe Trump’s actions in asking Ukraine’s president to dig up dirt on political rival Joe Biden and his son constitute a “serious problem,” according to an ABC News/Ipsos poll. But, according to the same poll, only 17 percent of Americans were surprised by the president’s actions. www.yahoo.com/news/majority-americans-now-support-impeachment-170346608.html?ncid=facebook_yahoonewsf_akfmevaatca
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 29, 2019 18:55:57 GMT -5
Those 17% have not been watching or listening.
But then trump did say, "Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what's happening," Trump said. "Just stick with us, don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news."
So they did.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 29, 2019 19:16:41 GMT -5
the previous poll had them rejecting the idea- but quite narrowly: 49:46. or something like that. I remember it being 3%
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 29, 2019 19:23:24 GMT -5
I expect the number to grow as the impeachment hearing expose more and more of this man’s corruption
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 29, 2019 19:33:12 GMT -5
I expect the number to grow as the impeachment hearing expose more and more of this man’s corruption this would follow the Nixon Pattern.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 30, 2019 7:43:13 GMT -5
Those 17% have not been watching or listening. But then trump did say, "Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what's happening," Trump said. "Just stick with us, don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news." So they did. True story - DH works for a lawyer who is also a Trumpette.
I keep telling him not to engage with her about politics at work - not good for job security! But somehow they got onto the topic of this Ukrainian shit storm, and DH said 'This time it's not he said/she said like the Mueller report, it's actually written into the transcript that Trump provided that he asked the Ukraine to do him a favor.'
His boss insisted it's fake news, it wasn't in there. DH printed out the transcript and showed her. Her response was 'Oh, I guess it is.' But she still insists he didn't do anything wrong, asking a foreign government to investigate his politician rival in an upcoming election. And she's a LAWYER - so you would assume she would know, better than the rest of us, what's illegal and legal. Guess not.
None so blind as those that refuse to see, I guess.
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Post by dezii on Sept 30, 2019 8:41:04 GMT -5
Those 17% have not been watching or listening. But then trump did say, "Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what's happening," Trump said. "Just stick with us, don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news." So they did. True story - DH works for a lawyer who is also a Trumpette.
I keep telling him not to engage with her about politics at work - not good for job security! But somehow they got onto the topic of this Ukrainian shit storm, and DH said 'This time it's not he said/she said like the Mueller report, it's actually written into the transcript that Trump provided that he asked the Ukraine to do him a favor.'
His boss insisted it's fake news, it wasn't in there. DH printed out the transcript and showed her. Her response was 'Oh, I guess it is.' But she still insists he didn't do anything wrong, asking a foreign government to investigate his politician rival in an upcoming election. And she's a LAWYER - so you would assume she would know, better than the rest of us, what's illegal and legal. Guess not.
None so blind as those that refuse to see, I guess.
I think he should listen to your advice, stay away from confrontation...unless you folks are independently comfortable...As his boss, I would be a bit anxious for my continued employment...Just saying
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 30, 2019 9:22:45 GMT -5
Those 17% have not been watching or listening. But then trump did say, "Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what's happening," Trump said. "Just stick with us, don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news." So they did. True story - DH works for a lawyer who is also a Trumpette.
I keep telling him not to engage with her about politics at work - not good for job security! But somehow they got onto the topic of this Ukrainian shit storm, and DH said 'This time it's not he said/she said like the Mueller report, it's actually written into the transcript that Trump provided that he asked the Ukraine to do him a favor.'
His boss insisted it's fake news, it wasn't in there. DH printed out the transcript and showed her. Her response was 'Oh, I guess it is.' But she still insists he didn't do anything wrong, asking a foreign government to investigate his politician rival in an upcoming election. And she's a LAWYER - so you would assume she would know, better than the rest of us, what's illegal and legal. Guess not.
None so blind as those that refuse to see, I guess.
There were some smart people in Jonestown who drank the Kool-Aid too.
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Post by kadee79 on Sept 30, 2019 11:05:50 GMT -5
Those 17% have not been watching or listening. But then trump did say, "Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what's happening," Trump said. "Just stick with us, don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news." So they did. True story - DH works for a lawyer who is also a Trumpette.
I keep telling him not to engage with her about politics at work - not good for job security! But somehow they got onto the topic of this Ukrainian shit storm, and DH said 'This time it's not he said/she said like the Mueller report, it's actually written into the transcript that Trump provided that he asked the Ukraine to do him a favor.'
His boss insisted it's fake news, it wasn't in there. DH printed out the transcript and showed her. Her response was 'Oh, I guess it is.' But she still insists he didn't do anything wrong, asking a foreign government to investigate his politician rival in an upcoming election. And she's a LAWYER - so you would assume she would know, better than the rest of us, what's illegal and legal. Guess not.
None so blind as those that refuse to see, I guess.
She may be a lawyer, but sounds like in a very limited area of law. Not sure I'd want her for any of my legal work.
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Post by laterbloomer on Sept 30, 2019 11:18:58 GMT -5
True story - DH works for a lawyer who is also a Trumpette.
I keep telling him not to engage with her about politics at work - not good for job security! But somehow they got onto the topic of this Ukrainian shit storm, and DH said 'This time it's not he said/she said like the Mueller report, it's actually written into the transcript that Trump provided that he asked the Ukraine to do him a favor.'
His boss insisted it's fake news, it wasn't in there. DH printed out the transcript and showed her. Her response was 'Oh, I guess it is.' But she still insists he didn't do anything wrong, asking a foreign government to investigate his politician rival in an upcoming election. And she's a LAWYER - so you would assume she would know, better than the rest of us, what's illegal and legal. Guess not.
None so blind as those that refuse to see, I guess.
There were some smart people in Jonestown who drank the Kool-Aid too. No, smart people did not drink the Kool-Aid. The very act itself proves they were not smart.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 30, 2019 11:41:15 GMT -5
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 30, 2019 12:08:09 GMT -5
True story - DH works for a lawyer who is also a Trumpette.
I keep telling him not to engage with her about politics at work - not good for job security! But somehow they got onto the topic of this Ukrainian shit storm, and DH said 'This time it's not he said/she said like the Mueller report, it's actually written into the transcript that Trump provided that he asked the Ukraine to do him a favor.'
His boss insisted it's fake news, it wasn't in there. DH printed out the transcript and showed her. Her response was 'Oh, I guess it is.' But she still insists he didn't do anything wrong, asking a foreign government to investigate his politician rival in an upcoming election. And she's a LAWYER - so you would assume she would know, better than the rest of us, what's illegal and legal. Guess not.
None so blind as those that refuse to see, I guess.
She may be a lawyer, but sounds like in a very limited area of law. Not sure I'd want her for any of my legal work. She actually works for the county - although 'works' isn't completely accurate. She sits in her office and plays games on her phone. She got the job because she's pals with the department head and she admits she took the job strictly for the benefits and can't be bothered to learn what the department actually does.
Gonna be a shock to her when DH suddenly leaves - she might actually have earn some of that taxpayer money she gets!
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Post by Opti on Sept 30, 2019 16:49:25 GMT -5
There were some smart people in Jonestown who drank the Kool-Aid too. No, smart people did not drink the Kool-Aid. The very act itself proves they were not smart. I think at the end, they had the choice of drinking the Kool-Aid or getting shot or beaten to death. Much like 9/11 when some chose to jump out the building instead of waiting to be burned to death.
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 30, 2019 18:02:08 GMT -5
No, smart people did not drink the Kool-Aid. The very act itself proves they were not smart. I think at the end, they had the choice of drinking the Kool-Aid or getting shot or beaten to death. Much like 9/11 when some chose to jump out the building instead of waiting to be burned to death. Not "much like 9/11". The people on 9/11 went to work that morning. The others we are talking about went to Jonestown.
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 30, 2019 18:08:10 GMT -5
I have heard a lot of the people there were essentially forced - held down, etc. Maybe some were there because they got caught up, or were just interested in how this guy was able to manipulate so many people. We will never know how many of them really believed at their last breath.
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Post by mollyc on Sept 30, 2019 18:28:45 GMT -5
There is a documentary on Jonestown that includes discussions with or about the survivors. Some adults were able to successfully hide. Jim Jones' had a son at a location outside of the camp who, if I'm remembering correctly, refused to enforce his father's instructions to make sure everyone at his location committed suicide.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 30, 2019 19:05:27 GMT -5
She may be a lawyer, but sounds like in a very limited area of law. Not sure I'd want her for any of my legal work. She actually works for the county - although 'works' isn't completely accurate. She sits in her office and plays games on her phone. She got the job because she's pals with the department head and she admits she took the job strictly for the benefits and can't be bothered to learn what the department actually does.
Gonna be a shock to her when DH suddenly leaves - she might actually have earn some of that taxpayer money she gets!
#gravyswiftboather #appaling
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 30, 2019 19:23:00 GMT -5
There is a documentary on Jonestown that includes discussions with or about the survivors. Some adults were able to successfully hide. Jim Jones' had a son at a location outside of the camp who, if I'm remembering correctly, refused to enforce his father's instructions to make sure everyone at his location committed suicide. wasn't one or more of Jones' sons playing in a basketball tournament in Georgetown, Guyana at the time of the mass suicide/murders and all survived?
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 30, 2019 19:24:05 GMT -5
There is a documentary on Jonestown that includes discussions with or about the survivors. Some adults were able to successfully hide. Jim Jones' had a son at a location outside of the camp who, if I'm remembering correctly, refused to enforce his father's instructions to make sure everyone at his location committed suicide. What a demented man.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 1, 2019 7:18:55 GMT -5
There is a documentary on Jonestown that includes discussions with or about the survivors. Some adults were able to successfully hide. Jim Jones' had a son at a location outside of the camp who, if I'm remembering correctly, refused to enforce his father's instructions to make sure everyone at his location committed suicide. I either watched that or read an article about it - I remember in the months leading up to the crisis some people had been leaving, once they realized how bonkers he was.
The sad thing was so many of his followers were poor (or had given him all their money) and were pretty much stuck there in Jonestown unable to get back to the States.
If only the psychopath had just taken his own life in a grandiose manner, instead of making all those people go with him.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Oct 1, 2019 10:23:56 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 1, 2019 10:31:35 GMT -5
of course it doesn't shock them.
this is Season 2 of the IncomPOTUS.
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Post by kadee79 on Oct 1, 2019 19:13:24 GMT -5
Watching Anderson Cooper on CNN....he has Senator Angus King (I) on....King said they had someone read out loud the transcript of DT's phone call....it took just over 10 min. The actual call was over 30 min....what is missing? He wants the WHOLE thing no matter what it is!
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Post by justme on Oct 1, 2019 21:02:05 GMT -5
Oh bloody hell. He's calling it a coup now!
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Oct 1, 2019 21:28:36 GMT -5
It’s going to get worse before it gets better. The State Department inspector general is scheduled to brief staffers from several House and Senate committees Wednesday, according to a report late Tuesday. Steve Linick, the department’s watchdog, is said to have requested the meeting reported by ABC News. The substance of the meeting is not known, but ABC News said it concerns documents related to the State Department and Ukraine. m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/1/steve-linick-state-department-ig-requests-urgent-m/
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Post by busymom on Oct 1, 2019 21:41:49 GMT -5
I just HAD to share this:
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 1, 2019 21:50:08 GMT -5
I just HAD to share this: I voted in 1972 Massachusetts for McGovern.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Oct 1, 2019 22:29:53 GMT -5
I voted once for Bush 1 and once for Ross Perot.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 2, 2019 8:07:15 GMT -5
Watching Anderson Cooper on CNN....he has Senator Angus King (I) on....King said they had someone read out loud the transcript of DT's phone call....it took just over 10 min. The actual call was over 30 min....what is missing? He wants the WHOLE thing no matter what it is! Must be sitting on that secret GOP server where they park all the uncontrolled blathering the president does so it can't get leaked to the public and cause more demands for impeachment.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 2, 2019 8:10:16 GMT -5
Oh bloody hell. He's calling it a coup now! It's because he thinks he's the emperor of everything and the only way to get rid of him is through a coup.
Sadly for him, this is still a democracy, and impeachment is legal.
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