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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 8, 2018 0:42:41 GMT -5
But the memos also raise questions about Ohr’s and the Justice Department’s roles in the origins of building a counterintelligence case against the Republican presidential nominee, based heavily on opposition research funded by his rival's campaign, the DNC, and the DNC’s main law firm, Perkins Coie. If there was inappropriate behavior done by the Republican presidential nominee, I don't care how it started to come to light. everything i have read so far about Fusion GPS causes me to like them.
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 9, 2018 6:53:32 GMT -5
Well, if I was Trump's lawyer, I would be scared even if the man was 100% innocent, just because he can't state a simple fact without resorting to creative hyperbole.
It's his nature to lie, even when the truth is easier. I can 100% guarantee he will commit perjury, probably about something very stupid and very easy to refute, and then he's toast. You can't claim you got hung up on a double negative or that people are 'hearing your words wrong' when you're under oath.
There is no possible upside if he testifies, but I don't think he can refuse to testify, either.
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Post by OldCoyote on Aug 19, 2018 9:41:12 GMT -5
Judge Jeanine tells it like it is!!
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 19, 2018 10:02:50 GMT -5
Judge Jeanine tells it like it is!! I am impressed with how Jean chooses to refer to Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
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Post by swamp on Aug 21, 2018 21:37:51 GMT -5
Beuller?
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Post by swamp on Aug 28, 2018 13:25:45 GMT -5
Beuller?
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 29, 2018 11:20:31 GMT -5
he should be at 89% approval, imo. but, of course, he is never going to get Milgram's 37%
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 29, 2018 13:58:45 GMT -5
Trump got this info off the Daily caller, Tucker Carlson's conservative conspiracy minded, racist rag.
Won't listen to his own staff members or Kelly, but gladly passes around horse shit from a Fox echo chamber.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 29, 2018 16:56:59 GMT -5
Trump got this info off the Daily caller, Tucker Carlson's conservative conspiracy minded, racist rag.
Won't listen to his own staff members or Kelly, but gladly passes around horse shit from a Fox echo chamber.
I believe the Daily Caller was often referenced as a reliable source in the past by this thread author.
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 29, 2018 17:16:44 GMT -5
Trump got this info off the Daily caller, Tucker Carlson's conservative conspiracy minded, racist rag.
Won't listen to his own staff members or Kelly, but gladly passes around horse shit from a Fox echo chamber.
I believe the Daily Caller was often referenced as a reliable source in the past by this thread author. Of course it was.
Speaking of unreliable right wing media, the New Yorker had an interesting review of a new book coming out next month that analyzed the difference between how the left wing media and right wing media operated during the 2016 election.
www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/a-new-book-details-the-damage-done-by-the-right-wing-media-in-2016
Very interesting comparison about why the far right wing website allegations of the Clintons being engaged in a pedophilia ring got picked up and passed around in the right wing 'journalistic' media, like Fox news and Daily Caller, while the story of Donald Trump raping a 13 year old, while shared a lot on Facebook, never got picked up in the liberal media. (Right wing media reports stories that support the bias of their viewers, because their viewers like it, while left wing media viewers want journalism and fact checking).
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 29, 2018 17:48:50 GMT -5
I believe the Daily Caller was often referenced as a reliable source in the past by this thread author. Of course it was.
Speaking of unreliable right wing media, the New Yorker had an interesting review of a new book coming out next month that analyzed the difference between how the left wing media and right wing media operated during the 2016 election.
www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/a-new-book-details-the-damage-done-by-the-right-wing-media-in-2016
Very interesting comparison about why the far right wing website allegations of the Clintons being engaged in a pedophilia ring got picked up and passed around in the right wing 'journalistic' media, like Fox news and Daily Caller, while the story of Donald Trump raping a 13 year old, while shared a lot on Facebook, never got picked up in the liberal media. (Right wing media reports stories that support the bias of their viewers, because their viewers like it, while left wing media viewers want journalism and fact checking).
I'll read the linked article this weekend. I ran out of free articles for the month with The New Yorker website.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 30, 2018 0:33:13 GMT -5
(Right wing media reports stories that support the bias of their viewers, because their viewers like it, while left wing media viewers want journalism and fact checking).
oh, i am sure that the "left wing" media ALSO wants stories that reflect their bias. but they also care about their journalistic integrity. so, it has to pass through the integrity lens FIRST before it can pass through the bias lens. having said that, if you care ENOUGH about integrity, it serves to neutralize bias very well, too. particularly when your boss is way more conservative than you are, which is typically the case, and you have a wife and kids to keep under roof and fed. there are a lot of barriers to bad reporting when your boss, your education, your self image, and your standards all tell you to do the right thing.
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Post by Opti on Aug 30, 2018 3:47:24 GMT -5
Well at least we don't have to worry about Donald J Trump's credibility being gone. Did he ever have it, this election cycle?
I expect he's going to be very surprised when his shit stirring and 'look, squirrel' stop working for him.
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 30, 2018 7:20:10 GMT -5
(Right wing media reports stories that support the bias of their viewers, because their viewers like it, while left wing media viewers want journalism and fact checking).
oh, i am sure that the "left wing" media ALSO wants stories that reflect their bias. but they also care about their journalistic integrity. so, it has to pass through the integrity lens FIRST before it can pass through the bias lens. having said that, if you care ENOUGH about integrity, it serves to neutralize bias very well, too. particularly when your boss is way more conservative than you are, which is typically the case, and you have a wife and kids to keep under roof and fed. there are a lot of barriers to bad reporting when your boss, your education, your self image, and your standards all tell you to do the right thing.
That was the findings of their study - both the left and right ends post a lot of bullshit on Facebook. Some of that gets picked up by the far right blog sites, and then quoted by 'actual' news sources like Fox, and the stories keep circulating and getting quoted (and believed). But on the left end, the bullshit Facebook stories don't get picked up by the left leaning media and repeated, because they can't be fact checked.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 31, 2018 7:50:11 GMT -5
What are the odds trump tweets his approval rating is 60% and only a minority of Americans support Sessions and the Mueller investigation.
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Post by Opti on Aug 31, 2018 8:31:58 GMT -5
I think the thing to watch right now is McCain funeral coverage and what people think. This feels like a pivot point to me. McCain has demonstrated how a real hero lives and dies.
The timing of this and the Queen of Soul's passingbvg feels appropriate. It will make midterms far more interesting as well.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 31, 2018 8:37:42 GMT -5
I think the thing to watch right now is McCain funeral coverage and what people think. This feels like a pivot point to me. McCain has demonstrated how a real hero lives and dies.
The timing of this and the Queen of Soul's passingbvg feels appropriate. It will make midterms far more interesting as well. It probably won't matter a bit regarding trump supporters and John McCain. As Trump faithful gather for Indiana rally, no love lost for McCain
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 31, 2018 11:39:55 GMT -5
This is misleading. Luckily I studied history in college and am a very well versed young up and comer. Plus, I have very good brains. So, let me explain what this means. President Lincoln obviously survived the assassination attempt, and lived a long life. This picture was taken in the 1940's, after the advent of "Smart Handheld Telephone Devices", also known fondly by millions of WWII grunts as "Walkie Talkies". He is correct, there was no "Photoshop" back then. . No shit?
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 31, 2018 12:19:31 GMT -5
only in one survey. and this is not the first time this has happened. both Pew and Reuters had him at 60+% disapproval back in December. this is the first time that THIS SURVEY has had him at 60%.
it should be pointed out that the president's AVERAGE disapproval is at 54%, which is just short of average for him for the last year. in the last year, he has AVERAGED from a low of 51% back in June, to a high of 58% back in December. in other words, he has a way to go before POLLSTERS agree on this. i watch this poll pretty closely. it bounces around by 2% regularly, and it is currently at the TOP of a 2% swing. it will PROBABLY retreat from here. if it doesn't- something more profound is underfoot.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 31, 2018 12:22:36 GMT -5
i will say that i am happy with this survey in quite a few ways. i kind of worry....pretty regularly, actually.....that we are in a post-fact society. but this survey shows me that although the faithful cling to their chosen one, the rest of us are are least willing to entertain that he is dirty.
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 31, 2018 15:47:52 GMT -5
... i watch this poll pretty closely. it bounces around by 2% regularly, ...
So a poll that announces the results have a +/- bounces around within that +/-? Hmmmmmm? What to think of that?
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 1, 2018 13:15:42 GMT -5
... i watch this poll pretty closely. it bounces around by 2% regularly, ...
So a poll that announces the results have a +/- bounces around within that +/-? Hmmmmmm? What to think of that? no. the trend. right now, we are at 54% disapproval, and that is up from 52% maybe a month ago? (without looking). the trend is a slow oscillation with some minor LMS trending within that wave. edit: i should not have said "poll" above. i should have said "number" = average of polls.
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